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Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 4:10pm On Nov 22, 2018
rvp2018:
WestLion? What hell is that. If you want to find REAL ESTATE data - You need to start from looking at what the likes of Knight & Frank are saying. Knight & Frank is one world largest real estate agency. Find their Africa reports and we can discuss how shitty looking Nigeria cities have any real estate worth talking about.

Here is there 2017 report https://content.knightfrank.com/research/155/documents/en/africa-report-201718-4576.pdf

It appears not much is happening in your cities - there is an over-supply in economically stressed nation - waiting for the next oil boom.
Do you mean REIT Africa is inconsequential? grin

REIT is not a consultant but investor and regulator of Real Estate investment market in the world including your Nairobi. grin


https://www.google.com.ng/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.africareit.com/about-us/&ved=2ahUKEwj9_YaIj-jeAhVR2xoKHT67CjIQFjAJegQIBRAB&usg=AOvVaw0YtRQH3LPMSbN4OwNoeVKO&cshid=1542896393992
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 2:25pm On Nov 22, 2018
68816419:
I no wan kill person for here as a result of hearth attack.
but the issue is that, they won't still accept what ever evidences, links u placed before them.
Abeg leave people make we learnt. Those who have brain will decipher and move on. grin
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 2:19pm On Nov 22, 2018
68816419:
I already made my researches on both countries agricultural sector , what I found was mind blowing, our agricultural sector is actually best in Africa and some of our produces are world ranked best.
Abeg, release data make we see. grin
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 2:16pm On Nov 22, 2018
tlann:
that slum is 10 times bigger than kibera
This is how Bodija looks at night. Kibera na slum. grin

Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 2:10pm On Nov 22, 2018
68816419:
its damn insane to even compare both countries, who does that for God sake, logically,Nigeria have much more people, as a result of higher population and higher purchasing power ,it a simple knowledge that Nigeria would generates more incomes than Kenya in areas of telecommunications.
They think they are more sophisticated than Nigeria but that should not be by mere month. They must show it. grin

Nigeria generated 9 times of Kenya's telecom industry revenue in 2016 and 5-6 times in 2017.

The lying mofo increased Kenya's telecom industry revenue to $4b dollars in 2017. Bhuhahahaha! grin
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 2:05pm On Nov 22, 2018
68816419:
WTF is wrong with you stupid Kenyans, y can't you just accept defeat for God sake, we have proven to you that we are at least 5times better than you in all sectors, forgiveness has just provided links and evidences to back his claims about we generating more profits than you stupid slummy country for at least 6 times.
WE ARE AT LEAST 6 TIMES BETTER THAN YOU IN agriculture,SERVICE SECTORS, ECONOMY, INDUSTRIES, sports, entertainment,Road Infrastructure, we have shown links and evidences over and over again.
how Dfck do you want us to convince you guys that we ain't your mates in many things?
Let dem continue to dwell in self denial. Nigeria is 5 times better than them in the service sector that provides 61% to their GDP yet they are doubting Nigeria's GDP. grin

We must round up that service sector GDP today and proceed to Agriculture. I hope you lead the way. grin
Politics › Re: Game Changers : Meet These Presidential Aspirant by forgiveness: 1:55pm On Nov 22, 2018
Online no do. Sai Buhari! grin
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 1:17pm On Nov 22, 2018
rvp2018:
You're a desperate idiot 2.08 is equal to 2.1B. Learn to BLOODY ROUND OFF. 39.99B is 40B. This is essentially what is wrong with Nigeria as a country. You guys cannot be saved. Just like Tanzania cannot...youre mixing years, revenue $ profit.

Even if we did this 10 times - and we probably have - you still won't get it.

You telcom revenues are going to be like 8.5b (round off) -against kenya's 4B - those are hard stubborn facts.

All you need is to add MTN (40%),Airtel(25%) & GlobalCom(30%) - revenue and you can tell us their 2017 and 2018 (expected) figures.
Why don't you steal $20m to round it up to $21b dollars, huh? grin

Airtel Kenya revenue was just $167.59m dollars in 2017 and that was 16% of telecom market share in Kenya. grin (see snapshot 1)

The remaining paled in comparison with Airtel Kenya and Safaricom. They never made more than to $100m. (See snapshot 2) You can see the disparity in snapshot two. grin


Where did you make $4b dollars in 2017? Bhuhahahaha?

MTN Nigeria market share is just 36%. Lying machine.

(See snapshot 3)

Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness:
rvp2018:
When did you defeat kenya? You've shown to be at best twice kenya when you've got 4 times the population & twice the land size. Your GDP is officially 4 times Kenya (a fat lie). Again when it come to comparing agricultural production - I want to see you level kenya but at least being 4 times as better.

Let recap - your telcom sector with 140-160M users can only at best generator 8.5B dollars! Ours with at best 45M subscribers generate about 4B dollars. We did the same for banking...our total banking asset is 40B dollars compared to yours about 90B. You get the drift!

When you look at South Africa level - which is where you should be comparing yourself if indeed your GDP was that big - you are faar behind.
Your old banking industry with stable democracy since independence have been overtaken by the young Nigeria banking industry.

You are right, Kenya's total banking assets was $40b dollars in 2017 but you are wrong about Nigeria's total banking asset. It was not $90b dollars. It was $101b dollars.

https://www.google.com.ng/amp/s/nairametrics.com/kenyan-banks-versus-nigerian-banks-see-who-wins-this/amp/

Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 12:23pm On Nov 22, 2018
68816419:
WTF is wrong with you stupid Kenyans, y can't you just accept defeat for God sake, we have proven to you that we are at least 5times better than you in all sectors, forgiveness has just provided links and evidences to back his claims about we generating more profits than you stupid slummy country for at least 6 times.
WE ARE AT LEAST 6 TIMES BETTER THAN YOU IN agriculture,SERVICE SECTORS, ECONOMY, INDUSTRIES, sports, entertainment,Road Infrastructure, we have shown links and evidences over and over again.
how Dfck do you want us to convince you guys that we ain't your mates in many things?
You dey mind those shambles lying Kenyans here. grin

I will keep disgracing them here in regards to GDP for now. grin
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 12:17pm On Nov 22, 2018
Nowenuse:
rvp20182 just has to commit suicide today.

After all the lies he has been spreading about Kenya's telcom sector being as much as that of Nigeria.

Kenyans are just so desperate to discredit anything about Nigeria that doesn't sit well with their twisted minds. Shameless souls.

Kikuyu1 who cheered rvp20182 should see this for himself.
More than shameless. rvp2018 is a pathetic liar. grin
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness:
rvp2018:
Typical boneheaded Nigerian,

If our telcom sector is safaricom. Then you're right. Those are annual safaricom revenues. 2017 they made 2.1B (Safaricom 2017 full year results) - the whole sector in 2017 made 3.4B dollars (see our Economic Survey 2018).

Now in 2018 - already safaricom has released their half year results - total revenues are around 1.2B dollars - meaning by end of year they should be well on way to 2.5B dollars.

Safaricom has 65% market - the rest of players include Airtel, Telkom, Equitel/Finserve, Jamii Telcoms.

Therefore to repeat for 10 times...this year expect our telcom revenues to rise from 3.4B to 4B dollars.

Nigeria should end the year with 8-8.5B dollars.
Safaricom revenue in 2017 was Sh212.9b which is just $2b(see snapshot 1) and it accounted for 71% of the total revenue (See snapshot 2) generated from telecom industry in Kenya. It is not up to $2.1 neither was it 65% in 2017. grin Lying machine.

Airtel Kenya revenue in 2016 was $167.59m dollars and it accounted for 16% of total revenue generated from telecom industry in Kenya. Lying machine. grin (See Snapshot 3)

Meaning, Safaricom and Airtel Kenya dominated the market with 87% shares. That amounted to $2.1b or $2.2b dollars. grin

What did the remaining 13% generate? 1.4b dollars? shocked shocked shocked grin

Telkom is the third largest telecom service in Kenya and they have 12% of the whole telecom market shares in Kenya. It's revenue in 2017 was not even up to Airtel Kenya. How can the remaining 1% generate 1.1b dollars? Bhuhahahaha! You are clowning around. grin


Kenya didn't make up to $2.4b dollars in 2017. Stop lying here.

Kenya revenue was $1.8b dollars in 2016. grin

Kenya never made $3b dollars revenue from telecom industry since inception. grin

Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness:
Nowenuse:
rvp20182 just has to commit suicide today.

After all the lies he has been spreading about Kenya's telcom sector being as much as that of Nigeria.

Kenyans are just so desperate to discredit anything about Nigeria that doesn't sit well with their twisted minds. Shameless souls.

Kikuyu1 who cheered rvp20182 should see this for himself.
Believe them at your own peril.


The total revenue generated from telecom industry in Kenya in 2016 & 2017 are $1.8b and $2.1b dollars respectively.

Nigeria's telecom industry revenue is 6 - 7 times than that of Kenya in 2016 and 2017. Gbam! grin
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 11:05am On Nov 22, 2018
darfay:
Kenyans are scam.

Kazikazi is the scourge of Kenyans. I think it's time we left them to you

Cc forgiveness,bantundra,slaveryisgood
This Kenyan peeps here are professional liars. Believe them at your own peril. grin


Chai! See as dem take colomi another man city join Nairobi. Bhuhahahaha! grin
Sports › Re: NNFF Awards, Committee. by forgiveness: 11:01am On Nov 22, 2018
Icon4s:
Committee members are welcome to the Nairaland Nigerian Foollers Award, 2018, Committee thread.

The the clear vision and responsibilities are as spelt out by the house in the Super Eagles thread.

Forgiveness, TheSuperNerd, ChrisKels, Joebie, Komekn, Tbaba1234 let's me here please.

COMMENTS HERE ARE STRICTLY FOR COMMITTEE MEMBERS.

Honorable modes: Mind4lyfe and Honeric01 please help us in deleting any comments from any moniker that doesn't belong to the committee. We don't need Intruders and distractors. Thank you Sirs.
No wahala.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 10:59am On Nov 22, 2018
rvp2018:
You're jumping all over - quoting data from different sources and methodologies. I gave you 2018 latest revenue data from the dominant players...MTN Nigeria and Kenya's Safaricom. Kenya telcom sector as of now is Safaricom 65% - and rest 35% (Airtel, Safaricom, Equitel & Jamii(internet only) & other small players). Safcom first half of 2018 boast of 1.2B dollars...MTN Nigeria (who have 40% or around telcom market) got 1.6B dollars.
rvp2018:
When did you defeat kenya? You've shown to be at best twice kenya when you've got 4 times the population & twice the land size. Your GDP is officially 4 times Kenya (a fat lie). Again when it come to comparing agricultural production - I want to see you level kenya but at least being 4 times as better.

Let recap - your telcom sector with 140-160M users can only at best generator 8.5B dollars! Ours with at best 45M subscribers generate about 4B dollars. We did the same for banking...our total banking asset is 40B dollars compared to yours about 90B. You get the drift!

When you look at South Africa level - which is where you should be comparing yourself if indeed your GDP was that big - you are faar behind.
I am just bursting your lies. grin

Where did you get $4b dollars from in 2016 and 2017 Kenya's telecom revenue? Lying machine. grin

Kenya's telecom industry total revenue in 2016 and 2017 were $1.8b and $2.1b dollars according to these reliable sources. grin

This is where you will see Safaricom revenue for 2016 and the percentage of their market share in Kenya. (See snapshot 1). grin

https://www.africantelecomsnews.com/resources/AfricaOpp_Kenya.html


Your Business Daily reported Safaricom's revenue in 2017 and how Airtel Kenya lost money. (See snapshot 2)

https://www.google.com.ng/amp/s/www.businessdailyafrica.com/news/Heavy-debt-load-leaves-Airtel-in-Sh8-billion-loss/539546-4077608-view-asAMP-3uehq2/index.html



Airtel CEO, Prasanta Das Sarma publicly announced the revenue of Bharti Airtel in all East African countries in Intercontinental hotel Nairobi Kenya and the east African newspaper covered the event. It was not a secret. That was were we know Airtel Kenya's revenue for 2016 & 2017. grin


https://www.google.com.ng/amp/www.theeastafrican.co.ke/business/Bharti-Airtel-posts-mixed-results-for-East-Africa/2560-4719508-view-asAMP-bwbww8/index.html


Be deceiving yourself. grin

We have seen that 2016 and 2017 Nigeria's telecom industry revenue were 5 - 6 times of Kenya's telecom industry revenue for 2016 and 2017. EOD. grin

Politics › Re: 15 Areas Nigeria Is Better Than America- Mrrights by forgiveness: 8:17am On Nov 22, 2018
SalamRushdie:
Liar Nigeria has one of the lowest average IQs in the world and that can't even be debated ...I hope you are not miscontruing breach of trust as intelligence .
Nigeria's IQ is 23rd in the world.


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Politics › Re: 15 Areas Nigeria Is Better Than America- Mrrights by forgiveness: 8:11am On Nov 22, 2018
SalamRushdie:
Liar Nigeria has one of the lowest average IQs in the world and that can't even be debated ...I hope you are not miscontruing breach of trust as intelligence .

Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 12:29am On Nov 22, 2018
Nigeria's telecom 2014 revenue was $9.8b dollars. grin

Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness:
rvp2018:
When did you defeat kenya? You've shown to be at best twice kenya when you've got 4 times the population & twice the land size. Your GDP is officially 4 times Kenya (a fat lie). Again when it come to comparing agricultural production - I want to see you level kenya but at least being 4 times as better.

Let recap - your telcom sector with 140-160M users can only at best generator 8.5B dollars! Ours with at best 45M subscribers generate about 4B dollars. We did the same for banking...our total banking asset is 40B dollars compared to yours about 90B. You get the drift!

When you look at South Africa level - which is where you should be comparing yourself if indeed your GDP was that big - you are faar behind.
Lying Kenyan.

In 2016, Kenya's telecom industry contributed approximately $1.8b to Kenya's GDP against $9.6b Nigeria generated in 2016. grin That is 8 times what Kenya generated in 2016. grin

$1.8b from Safaricom (largest telecom with 80% market share) and $169.2m dollars from Airtel Kenyan (second largest telecom market with12% market). (See snapshot 1 & 2).

What will the remaining 8% generate? $3b dollars? Clown! grin

Nothing more than $100m dollars. grin Bhuhahahaha!

Meanwhile, Telecom industry already contributed $9.68b dollars to Nigeria's GDP in. (See Snapshot 3)

In 2017, Safaricom revenue was just $2b which was 71% of the total revenue all the telecom companies generated in 2017. (See snapshot 4)

While that of the second largest telecom in Kenya Airtel with 16% market share revenue dipped to $167.59m dollars IN 2017 from $169.2m dollars in 2016. (See snapshot 2) grin

Where did the extra $2b dollars come from? Is it from the third and other unprofitable telecom in Kenya? Bhuhahahaha!

Kenya's telecom industry revenue in 2017 was just $2.1b dollars. Bhuhahahaha!

MTN Nigeria with just 36% share market in Nigeria's telecom made $2.4b dollars in 2017. Bhuhahahaha!

Dude! You can lie to your fellow Kenyans not me. grin

Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 2:15pm On Nov 21, 2018
NairobiWalker:
Don't get too excited, there are many different IQ rankings, your friend just decided to select one that places Nigeria ahead of Kenya.

This one for example places Kenya ahead of Nigeria.

https://www.worlddata.info/iq-by-country.php
This another one.

2> 1 grin

I still have another one. grin

Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 2:10pm On Nov 21, 2018
Real Estate continue.... grin

3. Nigeria is the second largest Real Estate investment trust market in Africa with 3 REITs out of the 32 REITs in Africa. Kenya is struggling with only 1 REITS. Bhuhahahaha! grin (See snapshot 1)

In short Nigeria won REIT best housing development award. grin

4. Nigeria's real Estate investment trust is valuable 40b naira. A total of 90b Naira of our equity market.

(See Snapshot 2)

Final verdict. Nigeria trashes Kenya again in service sector of Real Estate. grin

Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 2:10pm On Nov 21, 2018
Still in the Service sector.

Nigeria is ahead of Kenya in Real Estate and Franchise industries.


Real Estate.

1. Nigeria is among the top 5 Real Estate investment destination in Africa as at 2017. Kenya is nowhere to be found on the list. (See snapshot 1)

2. Nigeria is the most attractive of the top 5 countries that offers the greatest investment opportunity in Africa. Nigeria two cities of Lagos and Abuja are 3rd and 4th the most expensive retail market space in Africa. (See snapshot 2) Nairobi Kenyan city came distant 8th. grin (see snapshot 3)

Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 11:55am On Nov 21, 2018
68816419:
As we have defeated Kenyans in tourism, ICT, service sectors, sports, entertainment, economy, banking and finance , infrastructure..
Can we now compare Nigeria vs kenya in agricultural production ? hahaha
Maize
Rice
Beans
soya beans
yam
casava
cocoa
Millet
onions
tomatoes
and other agricultural produces ..
fish production
Meat production?
Please proceed. I am not good in this area.

However, I am not done with the service sector yet. Maybe I will round it up today.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 11:53am On Nov 21, 2018
Olodo rabata Jonraid. grin

Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 11:45am On Nov 21, 2018
Kenyans here are novice.

Nigerian students won competitions at the global stage.

Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 11:29am On Nov 21, 2018
We are not Kenyans who make mouth without nothing to show for it.

We win global awards in debate.




https://www.nationalhelm.co/2018/08/teamsaveasoul-nigeria-win-international-mobile-app-competition.html

Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 11:15am On Nov 21, 2018
Jonraid:
The KCSE exams tests you to the marrow.Our standards are high no doubt.When I go back to the Kenya forums or just Facebook groups made up of Kenyans,you see people reasoning out stuff so maturely and this get's you to say,''We have the brains"

A Kenyan form two student would do well in Nairaland,I'm sure they would think the form two from Kenya is a University student! Don't Nigerians have debates in their schools,write essays,go for academic trips and stuff? They just seem dumb.It's only that forgiveness guy who has tried to present his case well but has failed! Others would just call you stupid and write nothing of substance.Just from the posts you can tell this one is a Nigerian and this one a Kenyan. When this thread was at like 1000 pages,there were some few Nigerians who would really post issues and we would thoroughly tussle with facts.I just don't know where they dissapeared to! It seems that they too couldn't handle the heat from us!
Nigeria's average IQ is higher than that of Kenya. grin

Don't compare. Our students win global awards in debate many times.


This your iq. Very low. You are dragging with South Africa. Bhuhahahaha!

https://www.google.com.ng/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://brainstats.com/average-iq-by-country.html&ved=2ahUKEwjr_-iNnuXeAhUHyIUKHRSMCf8QFjAAegQIARAB&usg=AOvVaw0adNox4hZ_aWXJZruXQjfu&cshid=1542795002574

Politics › Re: $1.5bn Lagos-ibadan Fast Rail: FEC Gets Cost Overrun Request From Amaechi by forgiveness: 8:24am On Nov 21, 2018
seguno2:
Thanks for the correction.
Is Kenya a benchmark because they are not corrupt?
Cheers
It showed that Kenya is corrupt and CCEC is an accomplice.

However, I think the Chinese government is milking Africans through these projects.

We should invest in our own indigenous engineers. That will save us lots of money. grin
Politics › Re: $1.5bn Lagos-ibadan Fast Rail: FEC Gets Cost Overrun Request From Amaechi by forgiveness: 8:09am On Nov 21, 2018
seguno2:
I can’t believe this?
Are your eyes finally opening to the massive looting and stealing by your APC godshuh
Sorry oh for being taken for a ride for too long by the rogues.
$1.5 billion ADDITIONAL costs for a railway that is less than 200kms! Too sad to cry. grin
Where did you see $1.5 billion additional cost?

That was the initial cost to execute the project.

Besides, how much did Kenya use to construct 120km railway? The same account.

Politics › Re: $1.5bn Lagos-ibadan Fast Rail: FEC Gets Cost Overrun Request From Amaechi by forgiveness: 7:51am On Nov 21, 2018
Good one. Sai Buhari! grin
Politics › Re: Where Is Bola Ahmed Tinubu? by forgiveness: 7:16am On Nov 21, 2018
otipoju:
It doesnt matter. Yoruba politics is one of self interest.

Yoruba political parties operate like a cult. In fact you have to really belong to be carried along in the scheme of things.

Their leaders will seat, take a decision in their best interest and communicate to the rank and file.

For Tinubu its better to have a more liberal Atiku who will never harrass, humilate or try to cut down his power/influence in his own domain.

All Atiku needs which i am sure he has done is to offer something really juicy to Tinubu and the game is on.

Do you think Atiku was foolish when he announced publicly that he was gonna sell NNPC.?
Atiku that almost impeached OBJ? grin

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