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TheSuperNerd:
And it was for an own goal he scored in one of the games that played a huge part. And I grew up hearing every goal scored against your own team as "Escobar" when we dey play monkey posts or big posts

Sad history shaa

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Yeah! You are right. Then we call you Escobar if you score an own goal but Escobar folks wouldn't be happy about that because they lost him.

ChrisKels:
Post Russia, during the ANC qualifiers Rohr should start blooding in some youngsters to take over the mantle from Mikel Obi. It's very annoying that whenever he ain't there, the creative part of our game becomes almost non-existent.

I will love to see us giving the likes of KC Nwakali, Ejaria, Azubuike, Sokari, Kehinde, Onomah et al opportunities

The only person on your list ready and qualified to be called up for the SE is Onomah Josh. The rest are not yet matured or qualified enough.

nelszx:
Another false 9 formation would like to see how effective it'd be
Good to see Ebuehi start today, very underrated lad, Ogu to replace Onazi at any point in the game, Ahmed Musa as a SS/CAM well only time will tell though he played such similar role against Argentina after Iheanacho had been subbed off.
All in all I just wish the team best of performance

Ahmed Musa is playing as a striker.

Joebie:
Asking of evidence? Read the modified again slowly.

Oga, you don't have anything sensible thing to say.

tbaba1234:
This is the likely lineup for Tuesday. This is the line-up for their final training...Uzoho is likely to start again..

Uzoho -

Ebuehi, Balogun, Troost-Ekong, Idowu -

Onazi, Ndidi, Joel Obi -

Victor Moses, Alex Iwobi,

Ahmed Musa

cc: Gbosaa

This is great.

Let us see Ahmed Musa strikes.

Let us see the combo of Onazi, Joel and Ndidi in the absence of Mikel Obi.

komekn:
Football is not static and neither are football players. Some improve on upwards spiral and some are on a continous downward spiral.

Don't use old glories or past failings to ascertain a player. The reality is that OBAGOAL is currently the most consistent striker we have over the past 10 years.

Everywhere he has been whatever the league he has been outstanding.

Currently with better statistics than both KC and Ighalo. That's the reality. Unless you are prejudiced which many are then you can not deny his quality.

If we can invite Ajayi then why not Obagoal.

The relevant question is what's his current level of performance❓ Not what happened a decade ago.

There are so many players that have had resurgences in thier careers much later on. He is not as old as many top players yet we dismissed him for players who may never ever reach the level he has.

Firstly, he is certainly not too old after all is he older than Robben Arjen, Jermain Defoe, Danny Alves, Evra, Iniesta, Mascherano and yes even Christiano Ronaldo are all in the same range or older.

So what's the biggie Or just plain bad belle.

Consider the depth of experience and technical know how that OBAGOAL brings to the table. He could be the missing quality link.

As far as I am concerned, I don't think we have a reliable striker.

Ighalo is just there though I love his work rate.

We should not be deceived.

Anyway, your write up is spot on.

DerideGull:
This is Yari.ba for you.

What is Yari.ba? Do you mean Yoruba?

Is Komekn Yari.ba? Smh

I know this moniker. You know what I mean.

tbaba1234:
Kelechi Iheanacho ruled out of the Serbia game with a fractured right hand....

I hope it's not serious?
I wanted to see him play again today.

Martz101:
I am sorry to disagree with all of you, his review is spot on, Nacho was a flop, we still need to see more of Ebuehi to ascertain his better than shehu, though I know he will pass.

for Leon He was a little harsh on him but Leon has not been that good, we close our eyes to it, troost was doing all the interception and Leon was out of position, a moniker even said Leon played in the LB and another said we played a 352 formation. I know his fan favourite but he was obviously not at par with Ekong

It's your opinion but the fact remains that Balogun controlled the defence on that day.

Mickael2:
stop giving unnecessary credit. Keshi changed Mikel to a game changer. Moses too was a game changer then, even Omeruo and Echejile he made them game changers. I am not trying to downplay Rohr's inputs but credit to where it is due

I think Samson Siasia should be given the credit for Mikel and Victor Moses.

Mickael2:
the thing tire me oh. Make I go find my birth certificate first, seems there was a mistake somewhere

I have seen a 16 years old boy look exactly like him. Uzoho might be 19 or two years older but he passed MRI test.

Truidstar:
In as much as I want us to win our game against Serbia tomorrow, I would also advise us to be humble and focused going forward. COLOMBIA comes to mind. Prior to the 1994 world cup, Colombia breezed through the qualifiers, beating Brazil and humiliating Argentina on the way. In friendly matches before the world cup they beat Germany and Italy I think. They were the book makers favorites to win the 1994 world cup. Cocaine barons bet millions of dollars via betting syndicates on Colombia to win the World cup. GUESS WHAT? THEY DID NOT MAKE IT OUT OF THE GROUP STAGE. They were over confident. Let's learn a lesson from this.

And the event took the life of Escobar.

Kog45:
....Let him wait too....oh do you think am canvassing for his invitation? No

If you can go back pages i was one of the few monikers that went against Iorfa senior statement.

But my question is,why are we always showing double standard in dealing with the same issue.

Torunarigha Ojokojo said my son will not play for Nigeria but here some said that's his father statement not the boy.

Dominic Iorfa said my son will decide his future at 23 but we are using the statement to knock the boy off.

If i may ask,whom will you pick between Iorfa and Torunarigha based on their Father's statements.

Good Torunarigha Jordon came out recently to reject Nigeria.

This is just what I don't understand. I will investigate.

andrew444:
Aluko did not play with hull in the premier league,please get your facts right

Olodo rabata.

chiscodedon:
It's bizarre you keep mentioning Aluko, go check his files, he was part of success story of hull city coming to EPL, but what happened..? They dropped him, he went to Fulham, what happened again? He was dropped... Now plays for Bolton or even reading.... If he was that good you claim, many clubs should have been coming for him..
Good players even expecting to SE after world Cup are the likes of young and skillful Kalu and Esiti of Gent... Not Aluko.. He has tried

Lies every where. Take it easy.

Joebie:
Why are u the only one who calls him Tega on this thread?

Is he the only one? Check well.

MetalJigsaw:
Why should I give you facts?? so you didn't watch his matches huh?

And how dare you compare Nacho and Iwobi to mediocre Agu?? Who is he even better than in the team??

No let me vex O!

Ask people in this thread if they think Agu is better than anyone on ground.

Agu replaced Milkel Obi on two occasions, Onazi once and played a full match if I am right. On those occasions, he came in as a DMF and not as AMF or CMF, and we never conceded a goal nor lost a match. But Ndidi flopped in the first 2 matches he played and in the match against South African.


I saw those matches with my two koro koro eyes and I can say the lad is improving as he plays for the Eagles.

Did I mention Nacho?


Statistically speaking Mikel Agu is better than Ndidi.

No bi me do the statistics oooo. You can confirm from whoscored before angry fellows begin to descend on me ooooo.

Well, maybe he is not better than anyone for now but He doesn't tantamount to a rubbish player. That is my point.

Martz101:
bros AM means Actacking midfielder, Joel obi is an attacking midfielder

Please, show snapshot of Joel Obi as an AM as you quickly did for Aluko. Thanks.

MetalJigsaw:
Oga ,Agu flopped in 3 matches in succession. I'm tired of your argument.

Bye bye

E Be like say the guy na your brother

Agu didn't flop. If you think otherwise give me facts.

Besides, Alex Iwobi and Wilfried Ndidi flopped in their first two games but they are doing well in the team now.

Martz101:
Yes sir, though just like Mikel he sometimes play in CM and DM position

Show me the snapshot where he plays as a AM like you did for Aluko?

In Italy the way they compose teams are very specific and most teams make sure they have at least one player of each of the main types here.

Trequartista/Fantasista (Playmaker)
Tuttofare (All round midfielder)
Regista(Deep lying playmaker)
Prima Punta (Primary goalscorer)
Seconda Punta (Second Striker)/Mezz'ala(Inverted forward)/Velocista(Speed demon)

Trust me go through their teams, most have each subtype ticked off, it's how they build their teams. In fact, I can't think of a good attack through the years that haven't had atleast a Trequar, a Prima & .....any one of the last row.

It's why Chelsea weren't quite there in attack, we had Drogba (Prima) Anelka (SS) Fantasista
Nope. You look at Kaka, Shevchenko, Crespo..... Pirés, Henry, Bergkamp.... Zidane, Del Piero, Trezeguet
Ronaldinho, Eto'o, Messi.. Perfect combo's.

In Italy second strikers are considered strikers, that have a little more to their games, this is why "Inverted forward" (Players like Messi was, left footed on the right that cuts in to score) & "speed demon" is on the same line.
This could be the extra thing they have.

2nd strikers aren't usually the primary goalscorers, but, a player can be both, take Tevez at City, he is a 2nd striker that is also their Prima Punta.

Sneijder is NOT a 2nd striker, he is a midfielder, 2nd Strikers can play in a 442 as a forwards strike partner, (like Aguero & Forlan) if Sneijder did that, it'd be more like a 4-4-1-1. i.e. He is a midfielder, that is the acid test.

Rooney(Fantasista & SS) drops deep, the problem with Sneijder isn't that he is a second striker it's that he is an attacking midfielder, who isn't thought to be able to play central midfielder in a midfield duo. He really does operate in that attacking 3rd hole space mostly. Having Rooney & Sneijder in & around that area shouldn't be a problem, they'd link up well, it's more, it would leave United very unbalanced & open in the defensive part of midfield.

Modric is a regista (deep lying playmaker) and would make much more sense.
but, good players are good players, you'd find Sneijder useful.

http://www.grimeforum.com/showthread.php?93695-Second-Striker-Attacking-Midfielder

Martz101:
Thank you for this, the closest player that can deputise for Mikel is already in camp which is Joel obi, Aluko in no way is an AM...as expected a worldcup squad should have 2 players in each position and 3 goal keeper.

We are already close to the worldcup, I can assure you guys that you wont see any new player except the case of injury in sensitive position

Is Joel Obi an AM?

Kog45:
I love your question.I think we had this discussion yesterday based on Mikel Agu late call and metaljigsaw said why when we have Ndidi,Onazi,Joel,Ogu,Etebo,and Agbo even Agbo continue invitation has a question mark.

Humility017 and metaljigsaw believe what we need now is AM cos it was evident against Poland and they are right but the question is do we have one.

I came up with Sone Aluko and Kekechi Nwakili but some came hard on me said why Aluko?but didn't question why Nwakili Kelechi.

The issue here is simple we are too sentimental and emotional in our response to issues and we often forget that we are talking football.

I now realized mentioning name Aluko is not the issue or his quality is questionable but some see it as a way to hit back at some monikers,that's not analysis.

If we are questioning clamouring for Aluko then why are we trying to justify Chiedebere Nwakili invitation for Algeria and Argentina match,pls on what ground.

I made my recommendation and i said Aluko and Kelechi,Humility017 thumb me up on Kelechi Nwakili and forgiveness said why Kelechi Nwakili who is now playing in dutch 2nd tier.

I think Aluko would fit in just like Joel Obi cos he once a member of the team right from U20 and Nwakili is a young lad with great talent and see him as a future replacement for Mikel.

Major issue here we leave football analysis to settle personal scores which is not good for this thread.

It is something I have known for a very very long time.

Lucque:
We d fans... ND nff reserve d ryt to reject anyone too if Na so

No worries.

mazimee:
Tammy Abraham that choosed England I can see his market value sky rocketing. The earier you realize that quality will always speak for itself is the moment you will stop being exessively emotional.

Tammy Abraham is a Chelsea player. Are you not aware?

Loogan:
Onyekuru issue was work permit, I think his only undoing is his low transfer fee. I'm sure he would be in Everton next season if the club pushes for his stay under the "special talent" category.
Ndidi was already qualified to play in England because of his high transfer fee, he didnt have to have played for the national team, the transfer fee was enough evidence for the FA to know he was quality another way young players can gain work permit.
So it's not as simple as you make it sound.

Do you have evidence to back up your claim?

Mujtahida:
You ehn, forgive bawo. Post them jare.

I don tire for today. Until next time you provoke. This one don forgiven.

MetalJigsaw:
I should be the one asking you such question. What quality does Agu bring to the team. What does he offer the team apart from fouls and yellow cards? Its a general knowledge.

I'm so surprised someone can come out and defend such a mediocre player in the SE

I need facts and stats

Is that your own clarifications? Fouls and Yellow cards? Is that why you claimed his yanch opened?

Ndidi first games were below average but today he is in the first 11. What do you have to say about that?

Joel Obi too fouled many times on Friday and even collected yellow card, can you say his yanch open?

Mujtahida:
Please do. Let the whole world see.

You sins have been forgiven you. Go and sin no more.

Joebie:
They are different people with interests that conincidentally align.
There is a chance that if SE is full of England based players, they will both get their way at least 70% of the time.

They are only SE fans when the composition of the team supports their ideologies. I'm just trying to be civil here lol

Modified
From my observation of forgiveness, in my estimation I think in real life he is that "Federal character" kind of guy.

Komekn clearly thinks England should be the benchmark for everything.

What informed your mind that that I am a Federal character kind of guy?

Do you have any substantial evidence to back it up or you are just being prejudice?

Mujtahida:
Being accommodative does not mean condonation. Such a man is a wimp. I respect your views but I will also challenge and oppose it.

Hypocrites, pretender, corrupt, bigot, tribalist - these are some of the words you often pin on people but I'm not deceived. You are merely projecting your own negative attributes.

Do you want me to list and show you all the words you pin on people? Can we say that is also the projection of your own negative attributes?

Farzat:
I doubt that Komekn is a different person from Forgiveness. I took time to read their messages, they have one common interest no matter how much they try to cover it. The tone of their messages and argument is the same. Always on opposition side of every single topic. Always expressing a mindset of insecurity and inferiority complex. Always presenting statistics to pull one player down in promotion of another. Always responding to every comment with questions like " where did u hear me say.....? Answer me this that YES or NO? All these similarities cant be coincidence. But it will be a big shame if its actually one person that is misusing his talent and time to cause nuisance on this beautiful thread.
We should not over emphasize on the importance of comments on nairaland. If Rohr have time to read all these comments, l can bet u that he can never be successful (Those that make news dont really have time to read news)
We have a foreign coach that is giving us good results, lets all support this team and enjoy it while it lasts. If d sentiment of not having your favourite player overshadows d joy of d team victories, what will happen when d team looses?
Taking some issues personal, arguing from morning till night and starting all over again tomorrow might indirectly affect our reasoning and emotional life for nothing. Too much of anything is bad.
Happy new week to everyone.

I am Forgiveness and I remain the same.

Being on the opposite side of every topic don't in anyway mean one is wrong or right. The most important to me is to always be on the side of truth and justice. That't all.

Besides, if there were no criticisms I don't think you will be here supporting the Super Eagles because people fought, criticized, accused, exposed and blamed NFF, the previous coaches against corruption, bribery, embezzlement, nepotism, mafia-rism, cultism, favoritism, godfather-ism, mediocracy etc. People spoke out for what you are enjoying today and it is still their duty to act as watchdog against such nefarious acts in the SE.

As at then, people who were shortsighted exonerated the coaching crew and NFF from all their nefarious actions but railed and cursed those who spoke against them. They were tagged agents but today we know they are not. We know they are the true fans come rain come sun shine will always be behind the SE. True fans that knows there is no other National team other than the SE hence their need to defend only what they posses.