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andrew444:
I just notice something about this thread that so many people hate iheanacho for no reason,but they are quick to praise others players who are not good enough,there was a guy even considering kayode olanrewaju for the World Cup list,maybe he think super eagles is the Somalia national team,a player that cannot make a girona team is not good enough for super eagles bench.

Everybody here knows why Kayode is not making the bench but you don't know anything..

Continue.

komekn:
Essentially what you have put forward amounts to Balderdash. YOU HAVE COMPLETELY NO IDEA.


You have no idea about the team dynamics at Liverpool fc this a top team in Europe with some of the best players in the world gracing the team.

You have Multi million ££ internationallly established players ahead of Seyi Ojo, Sallah, Mane, Llanna, Coutinho, etc, etc.

Solanke is a striker not a winger. I know 100% that Klopp really likes him and refused to sell him.

About players of Nigerian origin Ibe was a regular in the squad at Liverpool before he moved to Bournemouth.

I am not sure what you mean by success. But with regards to the top teams in Europe I can assure there are far more Nigerian origin born in the UK playing at these top clubs in England.

The question ❓ is how good is Seyi ❓ Comparative analysis to put things in perspective. Tell me one Nigerian player that will walk into Liverpool first team Not 2 or 3 just one that's all. That means your proposition is unfair and is not applicable. It's using different units of measurement. That is essentially double standard and prejudiced and not in the spirit of open truthful and honest discourse.

Now tell me the Nigerian players that are better than him in the position of left sided midfield or left Wing.

Give me your rational proven basis essentially justify but not on emotive sentiment.

With regards to teenager who have been regular starter in the top teams of the EPL there are just a mere handful and if I go back. Nedum Onouha was a teenage regular starter in the EPL at Manchester City.

Tega Abrahams is a regular at Swansea with up to 8 EPL teams chasing him at the start of the season. Anichebe as a teenager at Everton was a regular starter at Everton.

In this discourse you have very unwisely OVER and OUTED yourself with misinformation and irreverent posturing.

FYI Seyi was bought for £1.8 million at the tender age of 14. Possibly the most expensive 14 year old in EPL history that's a record of success in itself. With his Dad agent laughing all the way to the bank.

By the way my information is not based on newspaper reports or Wikipedia.

What else Need I say more. You have just said everything. Kudos.

komekn:
Seyi was bought from MK Dons at the age of 14 for £1.8 million probably the most expensive 14 year old in English football history.

His Dad is his agent so he has been laughing all the way to the bank.

Newcastle put in bid in excess of £10 million Liverpool declined.

Help me am.
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kellycute:
nacho is the most intelligent super eagles striker of all time!, with an incredible left foot from above!. That lad Gonna light up russia.

Wayo Wayo biko!

LieDetector:
I want to believe this thread was created for football fans. Particularly for those in support of our national team. That my submissions do not conform to your preferences should not prick you so hard. It doesn't make my opinion any more or less superior to yours. Steer clear if my submission irks you. You don't subscribe my data and you don't feed me. You're absolutely inconsequential to my existence. Long as I'm a football fan with penchant for fellow nationals plying their trades across Europe, I'll rate those that deserve to be rated and slate those that derserve to be slated. Capisce

Welcome on board.

andrew444:
Mr Clueless it had to take you about 24 hours to reply back,just because you are looking for what to say,i will not repeat my self on one same issues.

Back to my question,how many england born players who are nigerians are successful?Nobody thats why you cant answer that.0

The seyi ojo you are ranting about maybe because you are a clueless liverpool fan,how many games has he played for liverpool? 8 premier league games in 3 season,you cant answer that because you know nothing okay.

According to you seyi ojo was so good at 15 but he is still being loaned out now,why cant he follow the footstep of raheem sterling who also started at a tender age? Lol

READ MY LIPS.... Seyi ojo cannot make super eagles team because there are better players than him okay.

According to you at 18 he was a starter in the championship,what is the big deal about that? at 18 many players of his age are starters in the premier league?

At 18 Theo Walcott is a starter at arsenal, at 18 raheem sterling is a started at Liverpool? so what the hell are you saying,even rashford break into man united first team at 18,Do you want me to mention more names?


The U20 world cup england won,seyi ojo was not even a starter,he started 1 match or so and the rest he was a super sub,whats the big deal about winning a junior world cup? Nigeria normally win u17 world cup and ghana has also won u20 world cup.

So many EPL team wanted to buy him according to you but he prefer a championship team? Why,maybe because he will be benched by those team?


I know you are a liverpool fan and you will say anything to make that look good

Iheanacho will not play in the championship,Leichester cough out 25 Million pounds for him,they can only suggest here in nairaland for iheanacho to play in the championship does not mean he will play there,just as you are suggesting that seyi ojo is a good player does not make him a below average player,Many UK players are overrated,before you call someone a good player allow that person earn the credit,because your mouth cannot make him a good player.

A Player that cannot even make liverpool bench,No b him mate David Solanke wey dem just buy for chelsea dey make bench? Abeg guy go sleep,na rugby you suppose dey watch.

What injury did seyi ojo has that someone takes his place?Ok i agree he was injured,But when was he a starter at liverpool? Who took his place last season? So he has been playing along side coutinho and co? even Marco Grujic is ahead of him in the pecking order,Oga go sleep you dey clueless,if you quote me again i go quote you till you go tire,i dont talk what i dont know,OVER AND OUT.

Mr sabi sabi. I don't need to waste my time yesterday on you. I just needed to rest and today was also busy for me hence the late reply.

Even this night, I was about doing something elsbefore I saw my mention.

However, can you please tell me your definition of 'successful players' before I answer your question. Because I want to be direct in my response. Thanks


Oga, I have followed the progress of Nigerian born players all over Europe for decade and this was what led me to know about David Amoo, Raheem Sterling, Jordan Ibe and Sheyi Ojo at Liverpool. This is the reason I can state emphatically that Sheyi Ojo has progressed positively.


How many games has he played for Liverpool? 8 premier-league games in half season because he was ruled out for 1 full season. GBAM!

Now, what happened within these three seasons?

The first season, he was making the bench at 17 and he was already part of the first team before he was loaned out in the middle of the season. GBAM

Oga, Sheyi Ojo already already broke into Liverpool's first team at 17. GBAM.

Due to the fact that he was above the academy at 17 and he wasn't going to get game time with the first team due to obvious reasons, Liverpool decided to send him on loan at the middle of the season to championship.

How many 17 years old be starter for Championship?

Yes! He made his debut at 17 in first professional career in the Championship. GBAM!

The second season,, there was a new coach who doesn't know Joseph hence the need to loan him out to the
Championship again. The same new coach saw a liverpool-fc player doing wonders in the Championship and decided to recall him from loan. GBAM

Sheyi Ojo made his debut for Liverpool at 18. GBAM

11 matches with 4 assists and a goal was enough to earn him a preseason the next season but injury ruled him out for months. GBAM

Let us use our brain to think for once.

I repeat, he was injured for months. In short, he was not fit after he came back though he was drafted back to the first time before he was sent to Under 23 to gain fitness but unfortunately for him Liverpool don go buy players because they are fighting for EPL crown. GBAM.

Who are the better players better than him in SE? ..

Bhuuuhahaha! Look at this one telling me what is the big deal about winning U20 team World cup. He has forgotten he bragged about how Iheanacho worked his way to the top through U17.

Did Iheanacho also performed in the U20? Has Nigeria ever won U20? If it's not a big deal, we for dey win am every 2 - 2 years. Bhuuuhahaha!

If you are blind to see the article that clearly showed EPL wanted to buy him then sorry, I can't help you.

At least, you have been proven wrong that no EPL team came for him. That's the koko. Bhuuuhahaha!

So, that 'according to you' doesn't make sense.

Many UK players are overated according to you but many Nigerian players can't enter the top 20 of the few players UK ever produced. Fact. GBAM.

Who is even our best now?

Can he be listed in the top 10 players produced by UK?

Open your eyes. Mr man. The world doesn't end in your backyard.

maidaboi:
birds of the same feathers
hahahaha

Hahahahahah! Na you sabi.

Mickael2:
nooooo. No! Very very far from it, like I have mentioned on some days, for some refs it's a red card, bad bad tackle. Now if you recall this whole argument started when someone said VAR would remove bias against Africa teams and I asked for an instance, therein he provided this Onazi incident. I alluded that the tackle was bad but that the ref not sending him off may have been due to his own interpretation of the foul. I gave you the anatomical reasons why that same foul may not have ended up in an injury which may have changed the refs mind about the idea that matuidi intentionally wanted to injure Onazi. I also gave out part of the rulebook where fouls below the ankle are yellow-card offence. Then I finally added that I would have sent that guy off myself, probably a 1000 other people would send him off but if you slow down and think very well, you'd see some reasons why the guy waved it off. You even added the fact that no nigerian player protested, so now I do not understand why you are accusing me of ridiculing the extent of that foul, seems like you have forgotten the primary bone of contention

Simple. Chikena! EOD. GBAM.

andrew444:
You are a joker man and know nothing about football ,is it the seyi ojo that played only 8 premier league games in 3 years you are ranting about ? Stop fooling your self I don't argue without facts and it's obvious you know nothing.

What chance someone that started from Liverpool academy,iheanacho is a good example,he had to prove him self at the u17 World Cup before he was bought to the man city youth team,his hard work makes him make the man city senior squad,you are here talking about a seyi ojo that no premier league team considered on loan but a championship team,once again you are a joker and you know nothing about football,even Ruben Loftus cheek of Chelsea who is from their youth will never be loaned to a championship team,if the guy is good he will be in the premier league,he has been loaned to 3 teams and they are all championship team which is Wigan,wolves and Fulham,I don't say what I don't know

Now list the names of Nigeria players born in the U.K that made it to high level? None of the strikers have the record of yakubu aiyegbeni who scored 96 premier league goals,drogba is the only African player to score more premier league goals than aiyegbeni,how far agbonlahor or shola ameobi?

Let me help you.

First of all, Sheyi Ojo didn't start his career at Liverpool. Fact

He worked his way from Milton_Keynes_Dons_F.C U13 to the first team as a 13 years old boy. Meaning at 13, Sheyi Ojo was already training with players older than him and in league 1. It was due to this reason many big clubs in 'Europe' fought hard to buy him and eventually Liverpool paid millions to make him the most expensive player bought at the age of 14. The record still stands till date.

So, you are are wrong to have claimed he started at Liverpool.

The boy was too good that at 15 he was already playing with Jordan Ibe in the Liverpool under 18 rank and England under 17 national team. At 17 he was consistent and regular with the Liverpool under 21.

That was the reason it was imperative to loan him out to he Championship since he outgrown the Liverpool ranks at 17 and was already integrated into the first team at 17. Yes, he was already making the bench and traveling with Liverpool for UEFA Champions League at age.

http://www.empireofthekop.com/2014/12/28/five-things-need-know-sheyi-ojo-twitter-rumours-suggest-17-year-old-start-v-swansea/amp/

At 18, he was was a starter in the Championship. Do you know what that means?

The next season, he was recalled from loan and drafted into Liverpool's first team. We saw how he made his impact felt in 11 games for Liverpool with 4 assists and a goal before back injury hindered his progress the next season which was last season.

He was out for months last season and by the time he came back, Liverpool already filled his place with another player. He was part of Liverpool last season but injury and fitness no gree and play though he played in the FA cup.

Injury hinder his progress, Mr sabi pass.

So, what made Sheyi Ojo made the Liverpool first team? Na play abi..

I know everybody is lazy in your eyes while you are the most hard working human being in the world. Even if you carry shit, you deem yourself hard working than multi millionaire business man. Na ya way be dat.

Do you think, no team in the EPL wanted to buy him?

By the way, no bi for here some people dey pray make Iheanacho go manage play for championship?

Ask them why?

Mr man, Newcastle-united and Burnley wanted to buy him out rightly but Liverpool are not willing to sell. EOD

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/4081029/newcastle-warned-theyll-have-to-cough-up-10m-for-liverpool-winger-sheyi-ojo-or-he-will-be-loaned-out-elsewhere/amp/

'Newcastle were also in contention, but they were willing to buy the player rather than loan - something that runs counter to Liverpool plans'.


Premier League side Newcastle United and Burnley are interested in the signature of Liverpool winger Sheyi Ojo this summer.


http://www.allnigeriasoccer.com/read_news.php?nid=23511

About, Iheanacho working hard at the U17, bro wey sabi football, Sheyi Ojo won the U20 World Cup last year. Olodo.

andrew444:
You are a joker man and know nothing about football ,is it the seyi ojo that played only 8 premier league games in 3 years you are ranting about ? Stop fooling your self I don't argue without facts and it's obvious you know nothing.

What chance someone that started from Liverpool academy,iheanacho is a good example,he had to prove him self at the u17 World Cup before he was bought to the man city youth team,his hard work makes him make the man city senior squad,you are here talking about a seyi ojo that no premier league team considered on loan but a championship team,once again you are a joker and you know nothing about football,even Ruben Loftus cheek of Chelsea who is from their youth will never be loaned to a championship team,if the guy is good he will be in the premier league,he has been loaned to 3 teams and they are all championship team which is Wigan,wolves and Fulham,I don't say what I don't know

Now list the names of Nigeria players born in the U.K that made it to high level? None of the strikers have the record of yakubu aiyegbeni who scored 96 premier league goals,drogba is the only African player to score more premier league goals than aiyegbeni,how far agbonlahor or shola ameobi?

Una see say no bi me draw Iheanacho put for this matter if I start to address this comment na soi some people go start to dey sing palongo. Hehehehe!

andrew444:
Says me,any player that is brought up in the U.K is now good enough for the super eagles according to most people here,seyi ojo is not better than Henry onyekuru or even a Moses Simon I will not call the rest,I reserve my comment

Do you know how many players brought up in UK?


Do you think the ones you see at the top bribed their way through?

Do you think they got to where they are by fluke?

Who are Onyekuru and Simon Moses and where were they when Sheyi Ojo dey play for Liverpool?

Like someone said here that some players found themselves in top clubs by chance and not by crediblity. I just smh.

Kog45:
Bros any family wey get TV for house in 1978 especially colour TV na rich family.

Really! But I... never mind.

TheSuperNerd:
My Egbon.... Howdy naa... Been a while. Hope family is cool too.

Abeg in the light of the revelation that Rohr will unveil a 35-man provisional squad before prunning it down to the final 23.... Who and who do you think should appear in that provisional squad? Abeg... Just prepare answer give me oooo (even of na tomorrow or whenever)... I wan engage Yara Yara soon as we dey compile list already before the Rohr list come out...

Man dey busy and at night, sleep no gree make l see road.

However, I think it's too early to make a list due to the new development and the uncertaintinity of fb turning out for SE.


What I meant by new development has to do with some players getting new clubs in la Liga and Bundesliga.

There performance will make it difficult for Rohr to ignore but while we are at that, let me give my own opinion.


1. Vincent Enyeama
2. Lookman Ademola/ Brown Ideye
3. Isaac Success
4. Francis-uzoho
5. Dele Alampasu
6. Dele Ajiboye
7. Leon Balogun
8. Troost-Ekong
9. Chidozie Awaziem
10. Kenneth Omeruo
11. Kayode Olanrewaju
12. Felix Uduokhai
13. Onyekuru
14. Tyronne Ebuehi
15. Shehu Abdullahi
17. Aina
18. Brian-idowu
19. Elderson Echiejile
20. Wilfred Ndidi
22. Uche Agbo
23. John Ogu
24. Onazi Ogenyi
25. Joel Obi
26. Mikel Obi
27. Mikel Agu
28. Etebor oghenekaro
29. Victor Moses
30. Alex Iwobi
31. Kelechi Iheanacho
32. Sone Aluko/Abdul-ajagun
33. Ahmed Musa
34. Odion Ighalo
35. Moses-simon

In addition, Kevin-akpoguma, Anthony Nwakaeme, Anthony Ujah, Onomah, Dele Aiyenugba, Raheem Lawal, Adarabioyo, Ezekiel Imoh, Ezenwa etc could also make the team if they performance well and are willing to play for Nigeria(for the fb).

andrew444:
I don't know what your arguement is all about,but seyi ojo can't make super eagles team,they are better players than him

Says who?

bengine:
Victor Moses is more durable, that Joel Obi naa plastic leg, thou I prefer he makes the world cup but just can't trust his fitness issues..

Hahahahahah! Well, hope he is fit and playing well for consideration for the world cup.

bengine:
That one naa plastic leg!!! E fit break leg anytime...every time I'm being hopeful, he just gets injured again..d thing don tire me..don't even know if we can trust him to last 3 games at the world cup..

He can play 3 to 5 matches without injury and it is not necessary he plays all the matches.

Victor Moses too na plastic leg.

maidaboi:
which means sitting on bench does not makes you a less talented player

It depends.

tbaba1234:
Las palmas has signed Imoh Ezekiel. Chance for Imoh Ezekiel to revive his career.

Now, this is getting more interesting.

darkelf:
Bartholomew Ogbeche scores one goal with an assist for his club (Willem II) in their Eredivisie home match against VVV-Venlo

Ogbeche na consistent striker.

gamaliel9:
Umar scores on his league debut dribbling the goalkeeper

Good boy!

tbaba1234:
Swansea beat notts county 8:1... were they sleeping on the pitch? The jury is still out on tammy.

Alright.

lexyman:
Tammy A . 2goals 1 assist, ... he may even score more .

If you do you not have an eye for talented players, you could mistake him for useless but I have another idea that he is good.

Abdul Ajagun team failed to qualify for the finals of Belgium cup. They lost 1 goals to nut. Making it 4:4 on aggregate.

From what i saw, Ajagun created 4 clear cut chances but his teammates failed to convert all those chances.

I noticed he doesn't waste time on the ball and his passes are very decisive. In addition, he is very good at dribbling and it's indeed very difficult to get the ball from him.

TheSuperNerd:
And Uzoho we shall see again and again... We got five friendlies lined up...so make una relax.


Talk about now... Ajiboye is still weak on aerial balls....

How many he fumbled? Loolll... I will ask how many he even got to face... Just that one he got which was converted but later ruled out was superbly miscalculated. This is a trait even Ezenwa showed during the qualifiers against Algeria. Ajiboye is still weak aerially. I think your question is out to show he is not weak there abi? Anyway, I just know that Rohr will drip either of Ezenwa or Ajiboye.... And whether we like it or not, I think I can tell you who Rohr will drop.

Ajiboye I suspiciously and closely monitored today only fumbled once aerially.

He did perfectly well aerially and even made a save from one aerial ball.

You can not see any flaws in that area.

Ezenwa own is too obvious.

TheSuperNerd:
About two I believe... Which he claimed with ease. I recall two well.

And wait ooo... Alampasu did play against Togo shaa ooo.. But iit was not for long. Not even up to 45 mins. But I speak of watching him a few times in Portugal long before recent times (during the time of the WC qualifiers final round grouo stage which began in 2016) and I reckon he was pretty good especially aerially. He is also very good at shot-stopping. But like all young goalies he got some weaknesses he is still working on.


See ehn... In the end... Na these upcoming friendlies go decide the final three.

Now we are talking. EOD

TheSuperNerd:
Well for Uzoho that one match came against Argentina. A much bigger and better opponent than any we have faced under Rohr so far. So it is a big deal. But he certainly needs more friendlies to sew what else he got for us and why he should be trusted going forward.


And yes , Enyeama is not so good aerially.

On Ajiboye, well today was evident. I have always known he struggles a bit with crosses from the U-20s even but again it shows it is still a weakness for him within the first few mins of the morocco game. Morocco scored a goal which was chalked off for going out of play. Ajiboye went for the cross that led to the ruled out goal and missed it completely. Aerially he really struggles.... Years on from the U-17s and U-20s, he hasn't overcome that weakness.

We need to see Uzoho again and that is not the only attribute needed to make a final verdict. We need to see see all aspect of him.

We can not use 10 years ago event to pass a verdict on Ajiboye. Now, is the koko.

Today, can you please tell me how many aerial balls he fumbled?

TheSuperNerd:
In that game alone against Argentina, Uzoho showed his aerial prowess. Not a debate sef.

As for Alampasu... He never keep for us but a few games seen of his back in Portugal before recent times also show his aerial strength. Alampasu is very good oooo... Sad we never see am in GWG. Chaaaiiii


And take it from me... Rohr will not make Ezenwa our no.1 for the WC. He will make the squad but He won't be no 1

How many aerial balls came at Uzoho?

Alampasu has kept for once against Togo. His case worst pass. We never see anything from him lately. Pass glory can't save him or take him to world cup?

TheSuperNerd:
In that game alone against Argentina, Uzoho showed his aerial prowess. Not a debate sef.

As for Alampasu... He never keep for us but a few games seen of his back in Portugal before recent times also show his aerial strength. Alampasu is very good oooo... Sad we never see am in GWG. Chaaaiiii


And take it from me... Rohr will not make Ezenwa our no.1 for the WC. He will make the squad but He won't be no 1

One match is enough?

Well, na to wait until we play friendlies before I know.

Besides, Enyeama is not good aerially.

Wait ooooooo, why did you conclude Ajiboye is not good aerially?

Joebie:
Ezenwa has conceded less in open play although clocking more time for SE. the stats favor him.

I saw both played and my humble verdict is Ajiboye is better than Ezenwa.

TheSuperNerd:
Ajiboye's shot stopping was still on point today despite the four conceeded... He is a fantastic shot stopper unquestionably. But he is poor aerially and this is where Both Uzoho and Alampasu trumps him. Both are also very decent shot stoppers.

As for Ezenwa... The problem is this. I agree Ajiboye is slightly better but I forsee Rohr picking Ezenwa ahead of Ajiboye. Why? because of the WC qualifiers test Ezenwa passed.

How many of Uzoho and Alampasu games have you watched that you arrived at the conclusion they are good aerially?

Well, if Rohr decides to take Ezenwa to the world Cup based on sentiment, na em palaba be dat. My own be say make Ezenwa no man goal post for WC except Rohr is really sure, he is the best we have.

darkelf:
The funny thing is none of our home based goalkeepers might make it to the WC Mundial.

I have said this before. WC isn't WAFU or CHAN where you make costly errors

And also, If any Nigerian member of our technical crew appears incompetent, they should be shown the exit door ASAP

Na true you talk.


It is better Aiyenugba, Uzoho and Alampasu go to the world Cup but if Enyeama is fit, Aiyenugba should be dropped and the other two should go because we need to start grooming new goalkeepers.

However, if Okoye and that French goalkeeper of Nigerian descent turns out good, then we should try them.

Joebie:
They are in the same league.

Modified u
I stick to my words I’ve given up on Enyema. He is not going to meet Rohr’s conditions.

Off course, they are in the same local league but one pass one.

Tonight, I saw a very good keeper better than Ezenwa. It's shows that the best is not always preferred.

If Enyeama gets game time, I am afraid he is good to go.

Na who una wan put for post?