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jotey:
I never see your type before

you are comparing buhari to rohr

is buhari performing?

The things that befalls his government is what befell the eagles from qualifying for nations cup 3 times.

He is about to fail if he accept corruption.

jotey:
bros dem don invite kayode

wetin you want again?

Invitation of Kayode has done nothing to justify the invitation of Chidiebere Nwakali. I am not appeased.

komekn:
I disagree with you, he actually doesn't need to watch him. He is playing in a league ranked 30 in Europe in a team that's third from bottom smack bang in the relegation zone.

If he was that good he would not be in the Norwegian league playing for a bottom club.

Do you think it's only in Nigeria that we have scouts. All the scouting teams across Europe nobody saw him. But some how the Nigerian scouting team has four eyes with X-ray vision and found him worthy more than the hundreds if not thousands of Nigerian players playing in far better teams and leagues across the World.

I know players who have left those Nordic league to come and play non- league not national Vanarama I mean non - league. That's how lowly it is considered particularly if you are not playing for the top teams in those league.

In an earlier post you said you were celebrating this call up. What's there to celebrate, the enthronement of mediocrity The circumventing of acceptable quantifiable measurement of quality standards and ability for subjective personal preference.

Once you loose objective structure you open yourself to corrupt and sharp practices. You then murder equity and fair play in cold blood in broad daylight.

Whether he does well or not is entirely irrelevant.

It's like someone bypassing JAMB didn't even take the test then gets in without the pre- requisite qualifications ( has 2 O/levels). However, the individual studies hard and graduates with a first class degree.

Therefore the end justifies the means and that's OK. to you Sorry in my book that's corruption and cheating. Particularly as all those who had far greater merit were bypassed and therefore missed out on that university opportunity.

Bros ye! I salute your doggedness in tutoring them on the basic acceptable quantifiable measurement of selection of players.

These people are bent on murdering equity and fair play for our korokoro eyes when it is obvious there is selective selection of players in the National team.

Some even said they will go on exil if they see a player that is playing in a better league than Chidiebere Nwakali called into the National team but he is at peace with mediocre. Smh

They blame Buhari for selecting people from his zone to man key positions because they believe those he selected are not better than the ones on ground but here they embracing and smooching the corrupt selection of players from a lowly league.

If they really want selection based on merit by Buhari why are theynot replicating the same thing here?

Maybe they think a lowly league player is better than those in a better league because.....

I am not saying we should use quoter system in selection of players into the national team but I am maintaining that selection should and must be based on merit even if the whole player is from on region. In this case, I am not convinced that merit was used as the measurement of picking players. This is broad day murder of equity and fair play in cold blood.

tglobal:
Like i said earlier, Nigeria played just one competitive match in 1999 with our first team players. All other matches were prosecuted with mostly home-based or second string players. The greek match you are referring too happened in the second half of 99 (I forgot to include that initially), when Gbenga was in Benfica. The only first team players in that match were Oliseh and I think Taribo and a few others. These are the facts, to borrow your own words. Come with a contrary one showing that he was ignored for any competitive match.

Okunowo played for the flying eagles while in Barcelona. If his rejection was foul play as you claimed, why did he become first choice RB when he was sent on loan and his stock apparently reduced? Did the handlers suddenly begin to stop being corrupt or they suddenly fell i

n love with him after he was shipped out?

Why was a Barcelona player neglected for those two or three matche? The question you asked obviously portrayed you as one who had not an atom of Gbenga career. So, the question is a distraction and digression from the koko.

Five things to know about Kayode Olanrewaju


15 Aug, 2017

Colin Udoh, KweséESPN

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What do 17 goals in an Austrian season get you? An impending deal with nouveau riche Manchester City, that's what, and Nigeria striker Kayode Olanrewaju is the man reaping the fruits of his potency.

The forward is reportedly close to a transfer to City in a move seemingly out of left field, and is expected to spend the next season on loan to Spanish side Girona.

Here are five things about the new City arrival-then-departure.

1. Olanrewaju was a member of the Nigeria Under-17 class of 2009, which finished as runners-up to Switzerland at the World Cup in Nigeria. Although he played in every single game, he never lasted a full match and failed to score a single goal. Some of his contemporaries in that side were Ogenyi Onazi, Kenneth Omeruo and Ramon Azeez. International stars who played include Alvaro Morata, Shkodran Mustafi, Mario Gotze, Granit Xhaka, Isco and one Neymar ... who managed to score a grand total of one goal.

2. 'Larry' also played at two further FIFA cadet tournaments - the Under-20 World Cups in 2011 and 2013, scoring a combined total of five goals. Three of those came in Colombia in 2011, where he scored in consecutive group phase games.

3. Kayode started his career with Ibadan-based Marvelous FC, from where he moved to Ghana to join Red Bull FC. It was from Ghana that he was recommended to Nigeria Under-17 coach John Obuh, went for tryouts, and was picked for the World Cup squad. Prior to all of that, he was trained by one of the country's top youth coaches and spotters of talent, simply called Zico. Olanrewaju says he is grateful for the tutelage, telling KweséESPN: "I am happy with him and everyone else for what they contributed to my career."


4. It has been a grueling road for Olanrewaju, who had to overcome numerous roadblocks as he clawed his way up. Loaned out to ASEC Mimosas by Red Bull, he had trouble settling at the club and was eventually forced to go back home, where he was registered with Heartland before he could make his move to Israeli second division club Maccabi Nentaya. During his time in Israel he was managed by Emeka Ezeala, who used to work with former Germany coach Berti Vogts when the latter coached Nigeria. Olanrewaju's 13 goals and six assists helped haul Netanya to promotion.

5. Olanrewaju is a quick striker who can play centrally, but he is equally well-equipped to operate as a wide forward. Former teammate and Birmingham-bound midfielder Ogenyi Onazi says the striker has always been ready to take in as much knowledge as possible. "He is a person who always wants to learn and join in everything," Onazi told KweséESPN.

Onazi says even in their cadet days, the potential was there: "He was fast then, but the issue was his finishing. Now he has played under good coaches and learned how to finish, he will be deadly." A bold statement to make, but sources close to the player's camp told KweséESPN that Pep Guardiola watched films of the youngster for two months before making a decision on him. If true, that tells its own story, and a good one too.

https://www.google.com.ng/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=8&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjfg8a2xKPXAhXMthoKHVSbCesQFghcMAc&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.espnfc.com%2Fstory%2F3180232%2Ffive-kayode-olanrewaju-facts&usg=AOvVaw0uPd8gdMhpcZFbMmY7Nm60


It is not about Kayode. it is about the rules that must guide the merits and dis-merits of selection of playere into the National team. No double standard.

tglobal:
Had to jump in on Gbenga Okunowo to make the records straight, because you have mentioned his name a couple of times.

Gbenga Okunowo was in Barcelona's first team for only one season (1998-1999).and in this period, the Nigeria played only one competitive match, which was a CAN qualifier against Burundi in Abeokuta. This was an era, when the only top grade matches we played were qualifiers. The only other match in that period was the 5-nil loss to Catalonia. Yes Gbenga was not called up for either of this matches.

However, he was in the flying eagles squad for Nigeria 99 (while still in Barca). In the second half of that year, when he had gone to Benfica, the SE managed to play two friendly matches (Ghana and CDR) which were prosecuted with home based players.

1999 Summary:
Matches played by SE: 1
Matches Okunowo was not invited: 1

The scorecard doesn't show that he was shunned while in Barca.

Going forward, Gbenga was the first choice RB (had Jersey number 2), going into CAN 2000, where he started in 3 of the matches and came in as a substitute in the other two. He was already on loan to Benfica at this time. He was also a part of the Dream Team that year as well and featured in our matches in Sydney.

Again, I stepped in to correct a misrepresentation about Okunowo, because this is not the first time you are raising the issue of his exclusion from the SE. The facts on ground suggest otherwise

I can never forget that day i did nt see his name on the list for the friendly against Greece in 1999. Why was a Barcelonia player even ignored for these 3 matches?

Kog45:
OK agreed but can u confirm Kayode invitation, if it's true well deserve.

has he been invited?

chrisooblog:
forgiveness stop lying gbenga okunowo was invited during his time at barca https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Okunowo

i know you will try to worm your way out by saying he was with benfica but the fact of the matter is that he was on their books whether he was sent on loan or not. i have highlighted what you wrote. gbenga had 8 caps for nigeria he played twice in 1997 and once in 1998 which falls under his time at barcelona
https://www.national-football-teams.com/player/14509/Samuel_Okunowo.html

Oga, can you please tell me the 2 matches he played in 1997 and the one he played in 1998?

Oasis007:
On a more serious Note, I think Forgiveness is really crossing the Line with his Allegations and Submissions. He's not the only Yoruba Man commenting or visiting the Thread on daily Basis.

I would advise him to stop referencing to certain Section of the Country getting more Recognitions for the National Teams Call ups, coz we actually do not need it. This kinda Reasoning is very absurd and he's given some to tag him a Bigot.

Its very unfortunate matured Men are engaging him in this kinda Discourse. It's better Forgiveness is ignored than engaging him on tribal Issue. We are all Nigerians, thus we should be less-concerned with who is repping us in the National Teams.

It actually makes no sense asking for equal Representation in the National Teams, coz its simply translating to DISUNITY in the Country. President, SGF, COS, majority of the Service Chiefs are from a Section of the Country, does that mean there are no better Heads than them?!

I advise Forgiveness once Again to please stop causing DISCORD from the tribal Point of View. I'm ain't saying he's a Bigot, rather advising him to quit toeing the Path. I expect the Thread to be discussing and analyzing our Chances with the List, instead of this incessant Discourse.

How am I causing discord? Where did you see me making references that certain part of the country is getting more recognition than others?

If you think the President appointment is tilted towards one section of the country based on Nepotism, don't you also think Chidiebere's invitation contradicts your philosophy of Merit befor Mediocre?

Oga, I am saying things as it is. Spare me abeg. because you are not different.

Kog45:
If i can understand you very well you believe one section in this country were being treated unjustly when it comes to invitation to the national team.I just guess,so am not tagging you a tribal guy because you are expressing your view.

I don't think there is anything like that and if you want to look it at critically,truly invitations to national team should be based on merits but sometimes we see a player in the team that warrant question,my man it happens and only coach can explain.

Good you mentioned Gbenga Okunowo case when he was doing well at Barcelona meaning you want us to go to memory lane to discuss this issue.I can tell you a lot of players that find themselves in such situations in national team, some find their way forcefully some couldn't get invitations.

1.I believe you remember Richard Owubokiri, this was a player that paint Europe with goals,highest goalscorer in the whole in the whole Europe but find it difficult to get invitation. He was forced on Westerhoff against South Africa and in that match he had a goal.This great player was substituted and never get a call up again.

2.Mike Obiku was a very good player doing it well with Feyenord in dutch league scoring goals but couldn't make it to the national team,his exploit in dutch league can only be rival by Finidi George but this guy was not given chance,may be few caps.

3.Chris Ohenhen was one of the greatest Nigeria striker in LA liga history scoring goals for compostella every season but find it difficult to get invitation made just few appearances for Eagles, the rest is history.

4.Godwin Opara was a very good CB playing in French league for Strasbourg later PSG but did you know Godwin forced his way into the team prior to France 98 after being denied the opportunity for so long with Nigeria preferred using average CB like Uche Okafor,Isaac Semitoje.

5.Karibe Ojigwe was a perfect DM/CM having a good time then with Karlsruhe later Bayern Leverkusen but did you know what,this guy was denied invitation despite doing well but a very average player like Garba Lawal was getting invitation with coaches telling us he was playing to instructions.

6.James Obiorah was a mercurial player,marvellous to watch,very skillful and highly rated youngster who was denied invitation when it matter most.This guy saved Nigeria qualifications to Atlanta 96 with stunning free kick just two minutes to the end of that particular match i can't really recollect the match.

Did you know Obiorah was forced to be invited for that match but after the match no invitation again until a Jamaica match prior to France 98,he put on a superlative performance but was dropped. It was this frustration that forced him to make a confession prior to 2002 W/C that national team coaches are collecting bribes, he came into the team and displaced Wilson Oruma.

7.Benjamin Nzeakor a very good winger in his days but couldn't get the call when necessary one of the very few Nigerians to play in Brazilian league.

8.Uwem Ekarika good winger in his days but couldn't smell national team like others who are not better than him,very few caps.

9.James Etokebe a good winger who was doing well but not giving much chance in eagles to impress.

10.Kalu Uche the senior bro of Ike Uche find it so hard to break into Eagles,though he later did but that was at the later end of his career.A lot don't know that Kalu was the best player at COJA but was denied invitation despite doing well every season in Europe until he find his way and appeared at 2010W/C scoring two goals.

11.Ajibade Babalade had a great appearance at Senegal 92 paring Keshi at the CB better than Uche Okafor but after Afcon he find it difficult to get into the team .

12.Chidi Nwanu was doing well in Europe and was the best Nigeria CB playing for Anderlecht but Westerhoff denied him invitation preferring even player like Isaac Semitoje,he gatecrashed into US 94 when it was obvious that his presence was needed in the team.

Honestly we have a lot of them and is not based on where you come from,it happens and only coach can gives reasons because sometimes is a puzzle for fans seeing certain player doing well and not getting invitation.

Well, your freedom of thought to assume can't be infringed. However, I have broader view and knowledge about the situation in regards to selection of players to the National team holistically than what you presented. I mean I can figure out which is which.

So, take off your mind from there.

In regards to what you just wrote there, don't forget you gave a little bit of what could be affecting Kayode's progressing into the National team, which in response, I highlighted 3 players in other to find out from you what could had affected there chances when it was very obvious they were better than some players in the national team.

Most of those players you listed played in that era many where better than them.

TheGoodJoe:
Who is talking about helping. Stop taking the point out of context. It I about discovering the best in each role and Chidi Nwakali has promise. It is a nice step for the coach to look in. If he is good and of top quality, that is when you use the National team to push him.

Not every Tom, Dick and Harry.

When did the National team became an academy for discovering talent?

Chidiebere Nwakali is an epitomy of every tom dick and Harry.

We don't need promising talent in an obscure leagues in the national team.

What promise did he show in lowly Norwegian league that is deserving to get a call?

We have better players than Chidiebere Nwakali in that role in better league. Don't tell me you're blind to the truth.

kingphilip:
and Shola wasn't active when he went to the world cup right

Shola going to the world cup was corruption.

jotey:
You are calling him grandpapa but you want Martins

Martins is grandfafa but he is still active and better than Shola

jotey:
Shola ameobi did not play any match for England

But he never wanted to play for Nigeria until he realized he is growing white bear bear before he made uturn.

TheGoodJoe:
Awo and Chidi play different roles and the requirements in terms of personnel is different. We are yet to call Dessers. Finito.

Oh! It is no longer about helping a struggling brother in low level league due to circumstances!? Who no know say na work permit dem wan make am get.

TheGoodJoe:
Awaziem was not a regular in any way when Rohr invited him and people still criticised his call. At the end, they were wrong. Finito.

Was Iheanacho a regular with Man city before he was called?

If not Awaziem deserves to be called the same way Iheanacho was called. Period.

Abi training with the best coach is no longer in ya dictionary?

TheGoodJoe:
Your stats are based on players from different coasts with different factors. Not a true yardstick. The best yardstick is the coach identify specific qualities that shows massive potential, inviting him and watching him closely. Then Rohr can make his assessment.

I bet you were among those who fought with blood against Awaziem's call-up because he was not in love with the Queen.

Don't compare Awaziem with a player in obscure league with a relegation threatened club.

Awaziem played his way into the National team on merit because we saw him played for Fc Porto. No lie give me chop.

Icon79:
Forgiveness, here's the fact: Rohr has observed both players at close quarters (in training) and, at the end of the day, he decided to give Onyekuru another chance to stake his claim. So just hang on, all things being equal, Kayode would still get once more chance to impress before the World Cup. Mark my word!


O pari

You can't cover the sun with your two pams

Rohr was forced to invite Kayode to the national team by the public and that was why he gave him only 10 minutes in those two matches. Nevertheless, he provided Ihesnacho an assist.

Icon79:
Actually, I have never called for Nwakali's invite. However, if the coach wants to try him out then he deserves a chance. You guys are making it sounds like Kayode has never received an invite. Rohr had invited the boy, watched him in training .... watched him play and apparently decided to go in a different direction.


O pari

Onyekuru is not a striker

jotey:
Nigeria won't accept him back

Learn from history

Really! How did granfafa Shola Ameobi take come back?

Kog45:
Am not disputing all these,as a 19 years old then good development for him and I respect him for that great achievement.

My point is Kanu wasn't a starter at Ajax.

Those who followed Kanu know what you are talking about.

ChrisKels:
Since una dey fear to call names, make I cause trouble bkus my Papa tell me say if I wan chase out owl from my courtyard, say make I tell d owl the particular tree wey in dey petch Dat moment.

Eheeee Da komekn and Da forgiveness ur boys are showing where their hearts lie with their reaction to this issue at hand. Before you go try call dis assertion ur usually word "prejudice", plz tell me how many of dem dat thumbed up Aina and Iwobi when they made their Eagles debut.

D next time wey una go ever ridicule our boys just to make those innit boys look better eeehhh. I dun comot red eye for u and forgiveness lol

Na my fault? Zaha did the same thing but he ended playing for Cote di vior.

This is just a friendly and that's all. I will fight tooth and nail until the end because the boy is talented abeg. He is another Dele Ali.

jotey:
You are always downgrading a player you don't want in the national team

It is not good for your health

Do you want me to show you how you downgraded Ajagun on this thread?

If it is not you then I will show you those that downgraded players like Awoniyi, Kayode etc

jotey:
Awoniyi dae top?

Issokay

At least, higher about one chidiebere Nwakali who some people wants to use the national team to resuscitate his career.

TheGoodJoe:
I have told you, he is good enough. That was why Brendan Rodgers wanted him. That was why Pellegrini took him on tour with Manchester City before he injured. That is why City have refused to sell him.

He is in a lowly-rated League because of circumstances, not lack of talent. Finito.

If he is good enough let him find his way to the top like Kayode, Awoniyi etc

After all, Awoniyi was also denied the opportunity to play with Liverpool due to work permit but we no here noise .

You have three children who needs work permit but you singled out one leaving the rest. What should that be called? Nepotism and ....

TheGoodJoe:
Nigeria is not innit where you do not get hindered by work permit and other racial factors. It is a longer road. That is why we have to go the extra mile to polish our true gems to shine. That is why Westerhof found a true gem like Oliseh, polished him with the National team and he shone for the World to see.

So, na only chidiebere Nwakali be hustler? The rest don't need work permit!?

Oga! This is not the era of Oliseh where almost all the players played in the national team before them go obodo oyinbo.

TheGoodJoe:
The only problem people have with Nwakali is not because of talent but he is not in a glorified League.

Forgetting that he is not in a glorified League because of circumstances outside talent. I have stressed this many times and I am glad Rohr is looking outside the league hype.

If he is goog enough why is he not considered for any tangible award in Lowly Norwegian league?

So, other Nigerians wey hustle reach where dem dey no get circumstances and no like better things, na?

TheGoodJoe:
How will he prove himself when you people are against the coach given him a chance to prove himself? He is in a small club trying to make big things out of it and you want him nominated for best player as if your innit Queen loving nominees are best players.

National team is not dumping ground for every d...h....it is for those who have distinguished themselves among the rest. As it is Chidiebere Nwakali is not qualified to be given any chance ahead of those who are doing well better than him. They didn't get to where they through magomago way like chidiebere is about to do.

He is not the best in Norway neither is he considered for any award because he is not pleasant to behold even in the low low lowly Norwegian league. Sorry.

TheGoodJoe:
Better players based on your assumption, not factual knowledge. The young man has grown in ranks in the team and even captained some games. He is building his rep. You do not know him, so you can not judge his class. Finito.

Fake player only recognized on Nairaland and chop I chop but statistics says otherwise.

TheGoodJoe:
A player like Kante in Nigeria will take even more effort and hardwork to get to such level. Chidiebere Nwakali was picked and prepared by Pellegrini but work permit issues hindered his progress.

Mahrez and Kante were good and that is why the grew fast from low leagues to set the EPL on fire. They were quality but followed the route. Writing them off as poor players then is wrong because in few years, they were among the best players in the World.

So because Chidiebere Nwakali is in a low League does not mean he is not quality as you are trying to make it. Just as you repeatedly tried hanging Shehu because he was not playing in England.

Keep in mind, Celtics wanted Chidi but Pere Guardiola refused to sell. It is not that Chidi can not play for a bigger club but there are other factors holding him back.

Prove yourself and the world will notice your quality but in this case, he is nominated for the best player in Norway? Mbanu!

komekn:
I am unable to understand your position.

Ngolo Kante a few years couldn't even get a club so he played 3rd tier, then 2nd tier before primotion to French league 1. In all this time he was a million miles away from the French team.

Walsh at Liecester City and his scouting team identified him as a prospect. Paid the modest £5 million for him. From there he set the premiership on Fire then got a call up to the French National team.

He was not called to the French team when he was at Boulogne or Caen. It was after he was proven and tested in the EPL that he got his first cap.

So can you explain how this journey of Kante and or Mahrez has any relationship or similarity with Nwakali.

All players start somewhere either at the top or the bottom. Each level you play is a test, which will if you perform propel you to the next higher level. Where you start is irrelevant it is how you progress.

If you are cutting it week in week out with consistent top quality outstanding performances, no matter the league you will get noticed. Then you will progress, but you will not remain in the backwater leagues unless you are not truly good enough.

These set of people are the ones bringing down our country too low with the mentality of corruption.

They will change mouth when it favours them not now!

TheGoodJoe:
You do not know Nwakali to use a term like for players like him. Finito.

Chidiebere Nwakali a player like this in a relegated threatened club for better players.