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safarigirl:
chai! This guy that is a better player than Iheanacho, Liverpool's biggest buy next season na who you rate 5.5?

Bros, just ask for forgiveness

Tell him.

zicky:
hmmmmmm, oga forgive them their trespasses.

Ok na! There sins have been recorded .

obaaderemi:
Hahahaha!you are wicked,Shaytun.Are you saying it's like Real Madrid vs Juve?I tell you that arinzeejikeonye guy is awesome.And some of them are ready to die here to prove sh!t like it's world war3.There's one of them who nearly jumped off a highrise because forgiveness showed him no mercy.He has been trying to bring everybody down to his level.The id!ot quotes you and is pained when he gets no response.You must have noticed him.He is the most persistent dog here.

You mean Nairobicrycry d boy, sorry NairobiWalker!?

zicky:
Opabunmi was even taken to the world cup ahead of more established players because according to some pelsons the guy gat potentials and no one should question the coach decision.

Is that not why some people said 'that is why is kind(Onigbinde) will never coach the national team?

chrisooblog:
exactly! the yekinis, okochas, kanus of before did they just drop and become mainstays in the national team overnight?

You wan compare Osimhen and co situation with those ones?

Since, some people claimed that club performance is not necessary once you are talented, I will advise the coaching screw to go to Ajegunle, Aba secondary schools, etc so that he can be spoiled for choice when Rohr sees them 'at close quarters'.

Icon79:
I hope you're being sarcastic. I mean, who can they displace amongst the following players:
VicMo
Nacho
Iwobi
Ndidi
Etebo
Obi Mikel

Please enlighten me.

O pari

Hahahahahah! You dey find my turobulu ooooooo Mr Opari.

Xlad:
Having watched like 4 matches of England U20 team at this on going FIFA U20 world cup,
I will like to rate these Nigerian players:
1.) Ademola Lookman ~ 9 is the best among them.
2.) Onomah Josh ~ 8 had his best match against the
Korean team
3.) Fikayo Tomori ~ 7.5
4.) Seyi Ojo ~ 7
5.) Ovie Ejare ~ 6.5 too much sideway passes
6.) Dominic Solanke ~ 5.5 just average... Nothing special

Cc icon4s, joebie, TheGoodJoe, Forgiveness, The supernerd, Tbaba123, Mickael2, goldfish80, komekn, BascoVanVeli, Safari girl, etc

No comment until I see the matches with my korokoro eyes because I no trust the way people take watch their ball come analyse.

However, based on my previous examination on them, this is how I rate them.

Lookman
Solanke
Onomah
Sheyi

I have not really seen Ovie and Fikayo but until den that is my rating.

Those boys can displace most of the players in the Super Eagles with ease.

zopaks:
Mexico U20 vs England U20
Score: 0 - 1
Min: 48
⚽ Goal!! Solanke
England U20

This set of England U20 team are too good.

They won the U17 European cup 2014 with some of these same set of players and here they are at the semi finals in the U20.

Some people no go like this one ooooooo.

But me no wan make dem win ooooooo.

Mickael2:
this thread tire me. When people question Shehu's inclusion in the team because we have better fullbacks some people will say it's because he is versatile(I even accepted that assumption), now it's Ajagun's turn and you guys are saying Rohr doesn't want versatile players, what then does Rohr want?

You see what I am sawing. Take five.

TheSuperNerd:
@first bolded... last tournament meaning 2013 right... ofcos I know that... I was only stating where I started following Ajagun's Progress... From the U-17s and his days at Dolphins of PHC.



@second bolded.... didn't you read where I said it is uncommon for an African player playing in the no.10 role in the top 7-10 leagues...? Wasn't that meant to be a huge compliment for Ajagun..... ?
And nope... Eredivisie is not a top 5 league in Europe. Get those facts right... that is why I said top 7-10.

@Third bolded..... Etebo has shown his versatility since his days with the U-23s and since his days at Warri Wolves... Etebo's excellent versatility is what gave him the chance to be invited in the first place. Let Ajagun show same and see if he will be ignored for long...


@fourth bolded..... I don't quite understand what you mean here... best no.10 in Europe? or Nigeria's best no.10 in Europe based on who is actually playing regularly in the no.10 role?

Is Ajagun better than Mikel, Iwobi and even Iheanacho in the no.10 role?

Is he more versatile than Etebo? they both can play no.10... Etebo can also play RMF/RWF, LMF/LWF, CMF, DMF, CF, SS, and his energy levels suggest he can execute the full back roles for us if taken there too.... Etebo is a super Beast.... is that who you compare Ajagun to in terms of Versatility?

Can Ajagun play DMF with distinction? Can he play CF? Can he even trump Etebo in the SS role? Na wa....


@Fifth bolded.... Good! About time....

That is why you need to know his performance did not stop at 2013. He went on to play for Panathiako from 2014- 2016 consistently, won the Greek cup, his club placed second behind the club that destroyed bigger clubs in the Champions League, and most importantly, one of the key players in the team yet dem say make em dey work while baboon dey chop. Dey just ignore hard working player for players wey no prove anything before they were called.


Because I already knew where you were driving at, so I asked, Can you please mention one Nigerian player in the top 5 leagues in the world playing constantly(I am regularly) in the no 10 role with facts?


Do you mean Ajagun who singlehandedly helped Dolphin fc to win the league, who was among U20 Caf XI team of the tournament (despite not winning), won MOTM severally in all the clubs he played until now, won team of the week many times in all those leagues including this season etc, showing is versatility in all those competitions, has not done enough to be noticed? Shuuuu!

This season alone, Ajagun has played in more than 4 roles for his club in Europe, majority as an ATM but that can't be said of Etebor who has only played 3 roles for his club this season, majorly as a LW.

Remember, Ajagun has played in the no 10 role consistently for his clubs both in Nigeria and abroad.

Why is Etebor not considered or entrusted to play ATM constantly for his club if they rated him highly as a no10?

Because this is Europe were there is a level playing field, no sentiment attacked to selection of players.

This is enough to prove Ajagun better pass Etebor in that role when tested both locally and internationally. Statistics are there to see.

I do not regard his performance at the National team because many players didn't get there on merit in the first place. Therefore, the National team can't be set for the benchmark for rating players.

That's why I said give those who are doing well the chance to prove themselves then from there we can do the ratings.

But for now, Abdul Ajagun is better than Etebor in that role.

Yes! Abdul Ajagun is the best Nigerian no 10 in Europe because he is virtually the only Nigerian playing in that role regularly and constantly.

Commot Mikel Obi the baba for there abeg.

I don't think Iheanacho is better than Ajagun in that no 10 role because if Iheanacho is better he wouldn't have been converted to a Striker in Manchester City.

Iheanacho is a s/s to me. Until I see him play no 10 regularly for his club, I will say Abdul Ajagun better pass him in that role.

You can't lay claims to all those roles you ascribed to Etebo just to prove a point,or do you have facts to back it up?


Because these two seasons in Europe, Etebor has only been deployed on only 3 positions. He has never played beyond Rw, Lw and ATM. Am I wrong?


But I can prove with facts that Abdul Ajagun has been played in more than 5 roles, to be precise 6, for his club in Europe e.g RF, LF, RM(same role with Victor Moses), Lw, ATM and CMF. In a level playing field environment,and not the magomago ways in the National team.

From these poinst of view, I can authoritatively and confidently say Abdul Ajagun is more versatile and a better player than Etebor. The records are there to see.

We shouldn't assume back them up with proven facts.


Give the chance in the National team before you make conclusions that Ajagun can't play all those roles equally or even more better than Etebor because Etebor has never been played in those roles in Europe. Chikena!


The first two snapshots show Abdul Ajagun's roles in his clubs.

The last snapshot shows Etebor Oghenekaro's roles in his club.

Judge, who is more versatile?

TayserMahiri:
About Somalis dominating Kenya thats just outright nonsense. No one can take you seriously on that. So now tell me exactly the population of white and Indian people in Kenya. They must be so many as to inhabit all the nice places in kenya. Why are you so bitter with kenya? If only you were that bitter with nigerian politicians and monopolists. The highlighted part is just one elongated lie. You dont beat us in sports, unless you think football is the only sport. Do you even have a rugby team? The sports we excel at in kenya we go global, not just African. We even dominate the globe in some sports. The high standard of living is another lie. We cannot argue over that sht when the HDI can tell it all. Entertainment? I shared photos of nightlife in kenya and nigerians couldn't dare to counter. You may have the artists but we have the entertainment and we do it with style. Don't try me on this one, I am a party animal ! And your housing estates are a joke. Very poorly planned and poorly finished. The only person who can tell that is somebody like fanficgirl who lives where housing is top class. We beat you on housing hands down. You do not beat us in any of those things yo listed, you just wish it. Maybe you have wide roads but our transport sector makes yours look like a bad example. Not even a national carrier airline? Nigeria is a very wide joke, with very many jokers in it.

In entertainment, just to Nigeria and see for your self. I just chuckled at the pictures you post became i don't think you understand what entertainment is and whom you are up against.

When i saw youy housing estate i knew you don't have much to compete with.

In sports, we have proved to be better.

Jay254:
Do you have to give an excuse even if its lame?. We are borderd with Somalia and South Sudan but we still export to them regardless of the fact that Mombasa is still far from them..

Now that you have put aban of importation, do you know the capacity of Lagos port then and now?(still below mombasa).
Now that the ban is in place do you produce the below items?
1. Motor Vehicles and not assembly plus all the parts
2.Refined oil, (Dagote plant is still underconstruction)
3.Electronics
4.Toothpicks, Utencils,shoes...
5.Among others

Nigeria is still anet importer..

1, We produce some of the parts. Click Nnewi then you wilk understand .

2, of course, product Refined oil

3, of course, we do.

4, in larger scales

5, of course

68816419:
I have stayed and worked in Nairobi, Mombasa, Nakuru,kiisi and machakos..I can tell u this, nigeria is far better of kenya in aspect of sports, entertainments, development, technology,roads and bridges ,housing estates, high standard of living,education and many more , the only thing kenya is better off is their tourism sectors ,newly renovated airport and may be nice cbd in some parts and nothing else,I have never seen in my life were street Homeless kids dominates a city like that of Nairobi, go to ngara,park road,thika, Eastleigh, cbd and see how these guys leaves they leave worst than animals, I keep saying this, the only thing that can help kenya is when it takes back "some" of its economy controls from Indians,whites and Somalis, they don't threat u guys with respect in their countries and even your own country so y do u c them as one? . nice parts of Nairobi is so small to be compared with nice parts in Enugu,port, or even kaduna ,even these "nice" parts have very few black in it,Kenyan are too delusional for my liking they tend to claim what they are not, every nice places in Nairobi is dominated by politicians ,whites ,Somalis and Indians and even these places have at least four slums sorounding them..... I have just said the truth and nothing but the truth

Our airports are also underconstruction.

Jay254:
Mature in deed!! with only two building that have topped up... Why can't you guys be patient for the final work, we started talking about SGR Kenya when the train started running..

Chai! That seems to be untrue .

TheSuperNerd:
AbdulJaleel Ajagun is a very good player. I have followed him since his days at Dolphins (now Merged with Sharks to form Rivers Utd) and his U-17 days. A really good no.10. And yes it is uncommon to have an African player featuring as a no.10 in one of Europe's top 7-10 leagues.... (Iwobi have also featured a few times as Arsenal's no.10 before they switched to their Current 3-4-3).......

With That Ajagun's talents must be commended but ehmmmmm.... saying outrightly that he is better than Etebo is a faux pas. Etebo is a super versatile Player... far more super versatile than Ajagun. Etebo plays each role he is given to almost classic perfection and with remarkable Distinction... add to the fact that he is a super goalscorer too and assists-maker when played up-top....

Egbon Forgiveness... how you go understand the library thing eh? In fact, if you are interested, I will tell Yara Yara to send a driver to come get you and bring you to my main labs complex.... I am not in the library section of the thread's house today...

I like Ajagun... I like the Obuh boys... but you see.... I wouldn't wanna put him in a class of his own over Etebo.... you and I know Etebo is something else.

Ajagun is a wonderful talent. A very good player but abeg.... not better than Etebo or some players reeled out already in the AMF role of the Super Eagles.

Ajagun's versatility is also noted but Etebo trumps him in all-round versatility. #Fact.

Like I said... I no wan go deeply extensive into this matter.... Just understand that somehow out of the blues... Ajagun can be invited... he may yet get his chance... so don't give up or rule it out just yet... His time can still come.

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Ajagun didn't only play for the U17, he also played the U20 WC twice and he was the captain in the last tournament. We saw what he did.

Can you please mention one Nigerian player in the top 5 leagues in the world playing constantly(I am regularly) in the no 10 role with facts?

Because the last time I checked, there is none.

How can you say Etebo is more versatile than Ajagun when Ajagun has never been given the chance to prove himself?


If Etebor is more versatile than Ajagun, how come his limited him to only 2-3 roles while has played in 4 roles this season?

I think I need something better than statement to convince me.

As far as his doesn't deem it to play in that ATM, I think he is the best no 10 in Europe. Same applies to others.


Now, I get the library

OMANBALA1:
You just talk for talking sake. These are your wishes ,that Ajagun is better than Iwobi,Iheanacho and WORK HORSE OGHENEKARO. So,if you are made the coach you will start Ajagun ahead of any of these guys ? This is probably why another Onigbinde will never coach a Nigerian team again. Why don't you invite Azeeze,Awoniyi and Gbolahan and start them.

Save for official use. As a grade A evidence.

TheSuperNerd:
@first bolded..... This is partly why I was inviting you yesterday to my library section.... see wetin your refusal don cause now. Ajagun better than Etebo.... Egbon Forgiveness.... Behave!

@second bolded..... okay... you were being very specific eh .... in playing more than five roles effectively... he is better than all the four you listed.... hmmmmm...... Well.... I don't wanna prolong this talk. Lemme just leave it lying for now.... another day, another time... things will be discuseed extensively.

Which one be behave? I talk facts, e sim behave.

If Etebor is that good as a attacking midfielder, why is he not played in that position in his club instantaneously.

Without National team, Etebor can never smell Europe.

From NPL to Europe Ajagun has performed wonderfully well in that ATM role.

For an African to be played in that role constantly, is not beans na.

Can those players play attacking midfield, LW, RW, CMF and DMF etcetera effectively than Abdul Ajagun?

I remembered he ones played as a RB in his club.

If you know something, talk am mo we hear?

About the library thing, i am not understanding.

Humility017:
Lol....you won't stop to amaze me
abeg...these joke expensive ooo

Can you please pinpoint to one single expensive joke in that comment?

You should know by now that I don't make comments without facts?

komekn:
There is far better possibility of first team football at Liverpool than Chelsea.

Sure!

Icon4s:
How many of those players you mentioned there are eligible to play for Nigeria against SA?

Ajagun good enough for where? Look at the list of Nigerian players who can play the number 10 position you wish Ajagun is good enough to play:

Mikel
Etebo
Iwobi
Aluko
Even Iheanacho.

Now in addition all the five players mentioned above can play at least 2 or 3 more positions. Which one of them is Ajagun better than?

And please you have been singing this exact song for years now. Can't you contribute to the growth of Nigerian football without the inclusion of your players?

First of all, we never knew Etebor and Iwobi could play dat position until they were given the chance to prove themselves despite the fact that they were nobodies before they played for the national team.

Ironically, Abdul Ajagun who was already an established player with Panathinaikos, and was very much influential to them lifting the Greek version of FA cup, helped them to place 2nd twice in the league, and played in both the Europa and Champions league qualifiers was mischievously, deliberately and unjustly overlooked for an academy player and a NFL player.

Now, you are asking who is better.

I will say give him also the chance to prove himself but until them, i go dey talk.

However, Abdul is better than Eteboh.

He is better than Iheancho, Iwobi, Aluko and Etebor when it comes to playing more than 5 roles effectively.

Abdul can do better. Next.

Humility017:
someone is talking of under 17 world cup and you're here talking of euro......2017.

What did Iheanacho do when the bar was raised?

Make we no start to dey compare player for here ooo.

Humility017:
regarding shehu...but you never said ajagun can play defensive roles or can he play as a CB or RB or even as a goal keeper?
I won't be surprised if you yes....though

What was the question you first asked?

You asked... mention any player that can play RB and DMF, ba. Then I listed all the positions Abdul Ajagun plays. No 10, CMF, DMF, LM, RM and RB.
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What else do you want me to answer you?

Oo! You were disappointed that Abdul Ajagun could play defensive roles. Sorry sir, as you can see, he can play them well even better than Shehu Abdullahi.

Can Shehu Abdullahi play CB or as a goalkeeper?

O.. I see, Rohr should deploy him there fast fast against SA. Very good of you. Next.

komekn:
I was in deep discussion with Liverpool fc although I am somewhere in Europe at the moment.

And Solanke is going to make up numbers he is going to have to fight like a lion to get into the first team.

If he is going to make the numbers I don't think he will Chelsea for liverpool-fc.

Liverpool-fc is very much aware of his predicament at Chelsea hence the reason they took the advantage, except dey wan deceive join the club.

Icon4s:
I thought you were criticising the invitation of Osimhen, Shehu, Bazee and Ezenwa.

You said there are better players who were not invited. So how is it now not about the SA match?

We all know the team needs reinforcement. And the NFF are try from their part. So that your holistic argument we have heard over and over. Say something new please.

Whether, you like it or not, I go dey blow breeze for fowl yanch.

Go and read my comments very well then come back and let us discuss.

Mickael2:
when Iheanacho was playing in the U17 was he the point man?

Go ask what Solanke did at the U17 in Europe then come back here?

On the two occasions, he gets distinctions.

TheGoodJoe:
Stop the allegations it is very bad of you. Rohr is working hard to raise the image of Nigerian football while you are on the other side tarnishing the image of he same man. Give Rohr time to show you what he is cooking.

So, I should not query the mode of selection ba?

I should close eyes like say I dey North Korea ba?

I have the right to express my thought and question anyone holding any public position.

Mujtahida:
You are speculating. You said Osimhen invite NA arrangee. If you had said if fit be arrangee I would not have questioned you.

Oga! If I say Nigerian politicians are corrupt, do you need evidence?

Since, I can't see any reason for Osimhen to be called, I presume na arrange.

Humility017:
bro...why don't help lure these guys to come play for the eagles...?

I be NFF?

Humility017:
why do you so much love this ajagun?
it is so obvious that the dude is not an SE material yet....
he should move to a more competitive league if he is that good..

Na who tell you?

Most of the SE material today were bench warms and academy players but when dey were given the chance they proved themselves .
He is in the Dutch league and he is moving to the Belgian league.

Is Shehu Abdullah playing in la liga?

Remind me where he plays?

Humility017:
I tell you...he should be invited to come train wit the SE...during one of these get to together like the recent one in France and England

I go give NFF pass mark for this .

The boy's heart is with Nigeria already, just a little interest then he is ours.

TheSuperNerd:
See him teeth.... this is part of why I say make u calm down....

Come over make we talk on my side of the thread's house.... I dey the library section.

Hahaha! Ok na.
Some people just wan provoke.

Which one be library section again?