₦airaland Forum

ProudlyKenyan:
Nope. It coz Kenya and South Africa cities are planned. You can distinguish a slum. Nigeria cities are not planned or zoned. You can go to Dar, Adis and many Africa countries (including Kenya new cities) and you'll see the same situation. You either call the town a slum or something close to it. The slum shanty sit next to office block which is adjacent to warehouse which is next to school.

Cities with colonial history like Nairobi, Joburg, Harare, Windhoek, Capetown and such have slums coz the European enforced strict planning and zonning.Nairobi to it's credit has continued with measured success to enforce those plans. I mean Nairobi masterplan was copied by Singapore coz the British did a good job...there are areas for everything including forests, rivers, animal parks.

Lagos is one big slum...so big they had to start a new town..ABUJA...which was an attempt to plan and zone things.

How do you even go counting slums in Nigeria cities? Zero spatial planning.

How many planned cities are in South Africa? 2.

How many planned cities are in Kenya? None.

ProudlyKenyan:
Show me Nollywood money. Show me the multi-billion dollar entertainment. Producing copious amount of really low grade movies focusing on witchcraft is not multi-billion dollar just like wearing multi-coloured printed cloth.

I consider south africa entertainment industry the most mature in Africa. They've produce movies, musics, books and arts that has won GLOBAL acclaim. Nigeria produces what Nigeria produces - low quality stuff I won't be found dead watching or listening or reading.

Nigeria has also produced musics, books and arts that has won GLOBAL acclaim.

ProudlyKenyan:
Pictures don't lie. You can see South Africa pictures depict a truly middle-class country and you see Kenyan pictures look good. Nigeria cities are creepy looking. You cannot even distinguish slum areas from non-slum areas coz 90% of the city is a mishmash of slum and creepy looking buildings. They have maybe 10 pictures that they keep reposting and reposting - coz entire city is cesspool.

Outside Oil and banking (after their recent forced merge of 60 banks to make 18 banks now) nigeria is a sh.iet hole. If kenya forced their 45 banks to merge to 18 banks...then they will be as big as Nigeria banks but kenyan banking sector would be poorer. Kenyan banks still rank Africa's most innovative and profitble. There should be space for small nimble innovative banks. South Africa I think is on the extreme on this - they have I think 5 banks.

As for Nigeria & Lagos GDP; those are totally cooked figures which recession is making a big joke of it.

Nigeria depend on OIL. Nigeria will remain the armpit of Africa for a long time.

Hehehehe! Only banking and oil kwa!

Where were you when I showed you how we are more developed than Kenya in every sector?

kongobi:
okay then i might say
nigeria is owned by international oil companies ,they are nothing without oil,a slump in prices is enough to send the entire economy into recession

Was America ever in recession with all their diversification?

What about Japan?

NairobiWalker:
But you've said here a zillion times that Kibera has over 1,000,000 people and is the largest slum in Africa

I hope you know this moniker very well. Sorry, it was not me.

Henrydone:
Omo that's it.Nigera and Kenya are not same league

Hehehehe! Na so.

NairobiWalker:
You mean the same CNN that has you believe Kibera is the largest slum in Africa?

I don't believe anything until I personally verify them myself hence my reluctant contribution on that discuss.

But I am seeing some slums here on this thread. Both from Kenya and South Africa.

Henrydone:
So this argument is still on,to stop pre-ambling let hit the nail at the top and bury the hatchet

ECONOMY


Nigeria
GDP-------$492.986 billion (nominal)
$1,105.548 billion (PPP)
Rank in the world-----21st position

GDP per capita----$2,758(nominal)
$6,184(PPP)
GDP by sector-----Agriculture---17.5%
Industry----25.7%
Services---54.6%
Poverty line-------33%
Exports------petroleum,petroleum products,vehicles,aircraft parts,vessels,vegetables,processed foods,beverages,spices,cashews nuts,processed leather,cocoa tobacco aluminum alloy.



KENYA
GDP--------$65.899 billion (nominal)
$145.6 billion (PPP)
Rank in the world-----72nd
GDP per capita-----$1,587(nominal)
$3,304(PPP)
GDP by sector------Agriculture--24.2%
Industry--14.8%
Services--62.5%
Poverty line 42%
Exports--small scale consumer goods (plastics furniture batteries textiles soap cigarettes floor mills agricultural and horticultural products oil refining aluminum steel lead cement ship repair and tourism

Sources---CIA WORLD FACT BOOK

Check it out https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy-of-kenya.html

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy-of-nigeria.html


EDUCATION

Of the 200 best universities in Africa 16 Nigeria universities ranked when only 5 ranked in Kenya

Check it out
http://www.4icu.org/top-universities-africa/html

Bottom line a university in Nigeria came before any other universities in Kenya,that not even the point for a country that claimed to be better having such low number compared to the country it claims to be than is just unacceptable


MILITARY POWER

Nigeria military are far stronger than that of Kenya

Check this to prove
http://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-listing-africa-asp

And this
http://answersafrica.com/7-african-countries-with-highest-military-strength.html/5




TECHNOLOGICAL ADVANCEMENT

Nigeria is more technologically advanced

I don't just claim,am factual in my claims
Check this out
http://www.siliconafrica.com/top-10-countries-in-africa-regarding-technology/html

ICT ADVANCEMENT
Owwwww Nigeria rocks everything

Check it
http://www.itnewsafrica.com/2013/10/africa-10-most-connected-countries.html

BEST CITIES

Cities matter can only be comprehend by folks with open mind,some cities may be good than the other in some aspects in SA Cape Town is the most beautiful city but johhanesburg will always be the best city in SA,here in Nigeria Abuja is beautiful than Lagos,but Lagos remain the city in Nigeria it can offer anything a city offer,Lagos is not really beautiful Nairobi maybe ahead but Abuja is also more beautiful than Nairobi,but Lagos is better than any of those cities Lagos is the second second best city in Africa following johhanesburg,

http://answersafrica.com/london-greatest-worlds-best-city.html

Abuja is second to Cape Town when it comes to beauty

http://Constantine.com/people/lifestyle/10-most-beautiful-and-most-developed-cities-in-africa

HOUSING AND BUSINESS ESTATES VALUE
Lagos is the most expensive city in Africa
https://techpoint.ng/2016/08/09/lagos-launch-startup/

ELECTRICITY
Nigeria is 4th largest electricity producer in Africa following SA Egypt and Libya

http://www.indexmundi.com/g/r.aspx?t=100&v=79&l=en

SLUMS AND SHANTYTOWN
One would easily assume Nigeria the most populous country in Africa should have the largest slum but only to notice Kenya dominating in this regard,not just having the largest but the most numerous check it out
www.africanranking.com/20-worst-slums-in-africa/html
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List-of-slums



The datum that Kenya is ahead Nigeria in all aspect is indeed a pseudo

Hehehehe! Meaning with these verified sources Nigeria is ahead of Kenya in


Economy

Education

Military Power

Technology

ICT Advancement

Best Cities

In addition, Sports, Business, Engineering etc

PissedYagami:
People dont like coming to your country bruv. Show me a school which imports students,

Is that what you where fed by CNN?

Continue to believe lies.

Even University of Ibadan imports students.

PissedYagami:
Not in Nairobi, it is in the Rift Valley
People sending their kids to KEnya to study

I see. Nigeria has many schools with foreigners in many cities in Nigeria. Ibadan has too. so, it is not a big deal.

MPSA:
I don't buy your story of lagos ''Lagos will always remain lagos to me'' I don't want to post the pictures of lagos that I know Enjoy the pictures of Cape town

My South African Brother has been watching CNN lately. You only see were they show you.


Lagos is different from Lagos State. Ihope you know that very well.


now, you can buy the story of Lagos after you see this article of the most beautiful cities in Africa. NAIROBI NO DEY DERE.

https://.g./aclk?sa=L&ai=CrVx2LT5RWKjOKteKvgTpqq_wDqXVnbEFjdzCup8Cpp6tjWsQByDF5d0jKAhgt7yDhfQwyAEBqAMByAMCqgSXAU_Q1DB42IZkiZfgd17qorpEt0ENaBr4gBmHv9yLi9hH_i5x784OFzEwSSbDZHe1Z_6R88RfiPnaSmr2W5NzJcqXf4PXzBB75WLWirKcNul1U3OW7rAo_WDU90r_1UbDigCjwJ_04xtPLOLoqqzFk2EVvyUvswWmzRv68K5BpugCJxGFDJL4nfKDUVPn-6Gl_-pZq9TekIGgBkXABguAB-X34jWoB6a-G9gHAdIIBQiAYRAB&num=7&sig=AOD64_3MbWyTW3fh2Imn2D5O5f4RosGzcA&adurl=http://www.africaranking.com/most-beautiful-cities-in-africa/3/

PissedYagami:
Kenya is a leading education destination in Africa. Heck I even know some mission boarding school that not only admits missionary kids, but some polititians in thr US send their kid to that school, you know, so that they can stay undercover. Nigerians and other Africans come to Kenya in hordes to study too.

Where is this mission boarding school located and what is the name of the school?

I know it is located in Nairobi.

MtuMsuper:
My dear, the Olympics IS the pinnacle of sporting achievement.

Maybe to Kenyans but not to the rest of the world.

NairobiWalker:
But Nigeria doesn't dominate globally in any of those sports. You've never won the BB and football world cup and you've never been world boxing champions so why claim Olympic isn't the highest level yet you don't dominate 8n the said highest levels?

Samuel Okon Peter (born September 6, 1980) is a Nigerian-American professional boxer who held the WBC heavyweight title in 2008.

When it comes to boxing we dominate.

Muafrika2:
I should reply this with or

Better.

NairobiWalker:
I like how Nigerians swim in a bliss of ignorance. Everyone knows Jo'burg has the largest concentration of Multinationals in Africa followed by Nairobi. Check this thread on Skyscrapercity for yourself.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1559138

Hehehehe! Another forum of personal opinions.

Next!

NairobiWalker:
You keep saying the Olympics is not the highest level of achievement in sports yet your TOPMOST sportsmen have failed to win anything tangible there. Dude, the top rated sportsmen in the world such as Usain Bolt and Michael Phelps compete in the Olympics harder than any other tournament - stop being like the proverbial hare who after failing to climb a tree to get some grapes said they were sour and walked away.

Is the Olympic the highest level of of achievement in Boxing, Basketball, football, etc? Sorry, it is not.

Muafrika2:
You won't find that European betting company sponsoring a good Nigerian team with that money. The citizens and participants will not be smiling about it. They may invest in a profit making venture, buy an oil block, etc, but sponsorship? only an African company would think like that.

Hehehehe! Have you agreed that it not only Nigerians that do place betting before you start shifting goal post?

Whether sponsor or no sponsor, the dude wants to expand his business.

gallivant:
Stop tickling your ego for once and do proper research. You provided regional rankings heck even Abidjan made the list. If Nigeria is a business hotbed how come most multinationals are based in Nairobi and Johannesburg? Simple logic.

List all the multinationals in Nairobi.

Muafrika2:
It takes much more to sponsor a whole club. And there are rules limiting transfer of players. It's like opening a company in London. You can't just hire Nigerians because you own it. There are laws protecting citizens of that country from such.

Are you sure Bet9ja brings in any foreign exchange. It's jobless naija youth who use the little they have to place bets. I doubt any serious foreign exchange finds it's way into naija if any. So by the crazy guy going to buy a European Team, he'll go to your central bank to convert his bet naija earnings in naira into Euros, the only currency acceptable there.

The dude bought the club to mainly promote his betting company and that will enrich him, his family, his community and his country.

Don't focus only on the capital.


Now, do you mean the British are also jobless to place bet?

Now, read and take note of the 19 million customers.


Bet365 Group Ltd (styled as "bet365" is a gambling company based in the United Kingdom. Bet365 is one of the world's leading online gambling groups with over 19 million customers in almost two hundred countries. The Group employs over 3,000 people and is the largest private employer in the city of Stoke-on-Trent.[3]


Can you see how much Denise Coates is making on the snapshot below?

obaaderemi:
Kenya,s sports seem more organised than ours.the olympics is the best yardstick.nigeria has not made use of its huge potentials.my opinion though

Maybe but Nigeria is still ahead of Kenya in sports if consider holistically.

However, the Olympics is not the highest level of achievement in sports because aside the Olympics competition, many sport associations have their own major competitions. For instance, in Football, you have FIFA, CONCACAF, UEFA , CAF etc which are rated highly than the Olympics. this is also obtainable in other sports

Muafrika2:
Actually, for both countries, it's a shame to export badly needed cash - and in foreign exchange - to Europe while our own teams wallow in need. Remember the embarrassing stories of African teams at the recent Olympics

Come on! The Nigerian dude will bring in more foreign exchange to the country by exporting Nigerian players from his own football club and other footfall clubs in Nigeria. Three Nigerians are already beneficiaries of this deal including the Nigerian clubs who got more Euro.


Moreover, he will bring more foreign exchange through his betting company, bet9ja.

ProudlyKenyan:
Kenya's betting company - SportPesa now sponsors Hull City
https://spoti.co.ke/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/SportPesa-4.jpg
https://nairobiwire.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/sportpesa.jpg

Kenya dey try but Nigeria don go far.


Kunle Soname,The Owner Of Bet9ja Becomes The First Nigerian To Buy A Foreign Football Club


President of Nigeria National League (NNL) team, Remo Stars Football Club, Kunle Soname and owner of Bet9ja, at the weekend became the first Nigerian to own a top European football club by buying Portuguese second division side, Clube Desportivo Feirense.
Soname secured 70 percent of the club, which last played in the Portuguese top-flight division in 2011.

http://www..com/talk/topic,274925.0.html

NairobiWalker:
Can you read English? Did I mention in my post that the population of Kenya is 60M?

You are very stupid - I was referring to the UK when you claimed a UK boxer is Nigerian stupid. Like I told you, stop embarrassing yourself - you're dumb and uninformed. It's painful arguing with you.

Ops! My bad. pardon me.... Korean population is 50 million, Kenya is equally same or even more.


Nevertheless, who is better in sports between Nigeria and Kenya?

So far Nigeria is dominating in Boxing, Table tennis, Basketball, Scrabble, Weightlifting, Taekwondo, Wrestling, etc either in Africa or in the world.

Remember, I have not included some Sports which we are obviously dominating in Africa.

Kenya only dominates in Athletics. Is there any other apart from that?

NairobiWalker:
Dude - stop your stupidity already. Laughing sheepishly won't hide your naivety and lack of info. We are talking of Nigeria's dominance in sports, the guy you're quoting wins medals for the UK not Nigeria. You could bring a video of his mother giving birth to him in Nigeria and screaming in Igbo but that won't make him Nigerian. We are not talking of his roots, we are talking about who he represents in competition. Kenya has several of them FYI - you saw the girl that won the gold medal in 3000m steeplechase in Rio? Yes, her name is Ruth Jebet - she was born in Kenya, pure Kenyan blood, lives in Kenya and even after the Olympics she came directly to Kenya - Eldoret City and you know what? She runs for Bahrain. Her gold medal went to Bahrain and you won't see us posting her photo here to show Kenya's dominance because we have hundreds of other internationally renowned athletes we can post. Now that's real dominance.

FYI there are so many former Kenyan sportspersons playing for the US, Canada, UK and gulf states (likes of Bernard Lagat, Chris Froome etc, you can google them) but we don't bother including them among Kenyan sportspersons since they don't win medals for Kenyans.

I don't know what your rant over South Korea is - you exposed your stupidity already and I called you out on it. Googling about SKs and Kenya's population and reposting them here won't erase that. I already know the populations of the two countries that's why I called you on your idiocy when you claimed Kenya is more populous - stop posting me things I already know (I went to the University of Nairobi and I'm very informed). Just Google that stuff quietly for your own sake so that you won't embarrass yourself anymore next time buddy.

Now, let us see how informed you are.

Who made the statement below, stating that the population of Kenya is 60 million?

If the population of Kenya is 60 million as you've said and that of South Korea is 50 million then tell us, which is greater btw 60 million and 50 million, Mr informed?

NairobiWalker:
That a country of 180M people can be so hell-bent on claiming a sportsman from a country of only 60M people yet still claim to be a sporting powerhouse is the highest level of absurdity.

Now, look at the current population of South Korea before you do your addition and subtraction.

iblawi:
Blessing okagbare

Hehehehe! I am still going to Athletics where Kenya can only boast about in sports.

NairobiWalker:
India, China and Brazil don't go around claiming foreign sportsmen as their own.

South Korea is more populated than Kenya. Don't manifest your low quality of education here - no wonder your universities rank dismally.

Really! Bhuuuhahaha! says who?

The lad has identified himself by himself and he doesn't need anyone to speak for him on his behalf. Bhuuuhah.

He doesn't need you to define who he is.


Joshua was born in Watford to a Nigerian mother and father. He grew up for much of his early years in Nigeria before returning to UK.


New IBF champion, Anthony Joshua has revealed that he stays in touch with the country of his parents, Nigeria.

Joshua was born in Watford to a Nigerian mother and father. He grew up for much of his early years in Nigeria before returning to UK.

Speaking to BBC Sport, Joshua says he stays very much in touch with the Nigeria culture and hopes to fight there one day.

“I have Nigerian parents and I’m still very in touch of the culture as well,” he the 26-year-old.


http://pulse.ng/sports/boxing/anthony-joshua-british-boxer-talks-about-his-nigerian-roots-id4932716.html


now, let us see how highly educated you are.


From the snapshots below, the estimated population of South Korea is 50 million as at 2016 while the estimated population of Kenya is 45 million in 2014.

Now, don't tell us Kenyans have not been reproducing for two years.

If we do the estimation for 2016 for Kenya, it could be around 48 - 55 million.

As you can see, there is no much gab btw Kenya's population and South Korea population. So, no excuse.

Snapshot

1, Kenya

2, South Korea

Wrestling is another area Nigeria is dominating in Africa and the Commonwealth though on the womem side.

https://www.google.com.ng/amp/s/sports.naij.com/amp/754908-wrestling-nigeria-conquers-africa.html

Odunayo Adekuoroye (born 10 December 1993) is a Nigerian freestyle wrestler. She competed in the women's freestyle 53 kg event at the 2014 Commonwealth Games where she won a gold medal and at the 2015 World Wrestling Championships where she won a bronze medal.

Blessing Oborodudu

In the womem Weightlifting, Nigeria is the number one in Africa and ranked one of the top 10 in the world.

Mariam Usman (born November 9, 1990) is a Nigerian weightlifter. She competes in the women's +75 kg class, where she is a four-time African Champion and gold medalist at the Commonwealth Games. She also won a bronze medal at the 2011 World Weightlifting Championships and has competed in three editions of the Olympic Games

NairobiWalker:
That a country of 180M people can be so hell-bent on claiming a sportsman from a country of only 60M people yet still claim to be a sporting powerhouse is the highest level of absurdity.

Hehehehe! Tell that to China, India and Brazil. You want to use ya population to cover ya..... after all you are more populated than South Korea.

Today today, we will know who is better in sports between Nigeria and Kenya.

For far, so good, we are ahead of Kenya in Boxing, Basketball, Scrabble and Taekwondo. Still more to come.

You

Taekwondo

Nigeria’s Abubakar Adamu Isah has won the 2016 edition of the WTF World Taekwondo President’s Cup which held in Portland, USA between October 27 and 30, 2016.

The tournament tagged G2, 20 points. Prior to this, Isah fought in the finals of the 9th Costa Rica Open in San Jose last August, 2016.



http://m.guardian.ng/tag/abubakar-adamu-isah/

Just Yesterday a Nigerian retained his IBF title.

Nigerian-born British boxer, Anthony Joshua, at the weekend, retained his International Boxing Federation heavyweight title after subduing Eric Molisa to pave the way for a fight against Wladimir Klitschko next year.