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Vick4rill:
kjhova seriously i wonder the kind of doubtin thomas, u will be in real life. i have posted it severally that i dont hate atheist. i only hate the way they reason. the guy above me uses common sense, to interprete what my statement: "avoid atheist like plague" really means, bt yet you still prefer to give it ur own meaning. now get my points vry clear. even if you are my blood brother and you decides to become an atheist. i can only pray and never relent in helping you were i ever can. BUT i will never get personal or mingle with you. i will do this not because i hate you. but cus it will be very unwise of me to allow u corrupt my belief simply cus you are my brother. a good xtian live his life for christ, wat then happend when he spends most of his time with some one, who dnt even believe in the God he serves?

If ur brother becomes and atheist, and wants to marry a Christian lady, would u hmgo and the the Christian lady not to marry him? Pls reply.

michaelwestern:
I don't wish that your relationship is fake am just saying that you're not being fully honest with her.

Will she be happy if she knows that you think both her and her religion are dumb? She probably just thinks that you're indifferent to religion and will change with time. Not knowing that you're a Christian basher on nairaland.

If she's a true Christian then nothing will be more important to her than her relationship with God. So don't tell me that there are more important things in your relationship than religion. The foundation of your relationship is shaky.

If you want to be fully honest with her, allow her to read all your posts on nairaland. I don't think your relationship can survive that.

And am not wishing you ill, am just trying to look out for a fellow sister in Christ. She might be caught up in love now and not realize what she's doing. I just pray that her eyes open before its too late. Peace

She knows I bash religion in Nairaland, she knows I think religion is dumb, but just like me, we see in ourselves, something beyond what we think about religion. I am a grate guy and she is a great girl, that is all that matters.

I don't care if she is a true Christian and honestly, that's not ur business. I tell u we are happy, why are u Calling us fake, what's ur stress?

I argue with her friends but she loves me beyond all that, if u were a girl, trust me, u will love my real life personality. The foundation of ur thinking is the beginningg of ur downfall... I see a future with her and there is nothing u can do about it... If u feel hurt, go hug a frog.

Go and marry or take care of ur own wife, my woman is not ur sister, she is mine. No matter what u think, u cannot give her the happiness I give her. I have helped far more Christians around me than many so called Christians have helped their brothers and sisters.

Go and pray for people surfing all over the world, leave my relationship alone, my girl is doing fine with me, it will never ever be too late for her... Again wishing me bad wishes is how sadistic ur foolish religion has made u. F""ck off.

shadeyinka:
Then, the christian must carry his/her cross. Its not a valid ground for divorce according to the scripture.

However someone out of the two will not be living a fulfilled life.

Do you think your wife will be able to go with you to a " fellowship of atheists"? I know it doesn't exist now but it is possible...except she is just a Christian by name and not by heart.

Don't forget that not all Christians will see the kingdom of God..except those who do the will of God. There are many people called Christian who are not known by Christ and that is the bottom line.

Ask your fiancée "Forget about religion, do you think Jesus knows you as His own"? Ask her how she got born again! if she claims such.

If my wife becomes an atheist today, I will be very sad! But , I can't hate or divorce her...and in spite of this , I will still love her

BUT
Will I be happy? No!
Would I appreciate her teaching our children Atheistic doctrines? No!
Would I intensify my " indoctrination " effort on our children? Yes!
Would I want her to do the same for our children? No!

Suppose she becomes adamant, would I give in? No!

Why? I don't want to loose my children in eternity!

Interestingly, my atheistic wife would not have any plan for eternity either for herself or for our children." She has nothing to loose" by her atheistic stand.

However, as a Theist, I have all to loose if I make heaven and all my children do not all because I married an atheist.

So you see, its not as simple as you have viewed it except of course if you DO NOT interfere with anything of religious inclination in your family.

What the hell is atheist meeting? Where did u pull that out from?

Jesus does not exist... I am not interested in what a non existent being thinks about my wife. That's left for her to deal with its not my business.

How she became born again is not my business, I just love her for who she is... A caring fun to be with lady.

If ur wife becomes and atheist u will be sad... That's the difference between me and u,the only thing that will make me sad in my marriage is when my loving wife stops being loving.

There is no eternity for me, that's a burden for m wife to care... If my kids are Christians or not, it does not matter to me, I sure will ensure they are not dumb.

To me this is the easiest thing on earth... We are loving ourselves this way, we will sure continue.. ur non existent God will not stop our happiness.

michaelwestern:
You are having a fake relationship and about to have a fake marriage with her. Can you show her this post and all your other posts on nairaland? Most atheists and you in particular always use insulting words to describe Christians, does that mean that you are engaged to a stupid woman who is mentally under developed to believe in the Christian mythology?

Lol... Unfortunately for u, I am in a very happy relationship... I just pity u. U sit down in the comfort of ur home and wish my relationship is fake. That's how stupid some of u religious folks can be.

U think my fiance is the only theist friend I have? I have been getting along with theists even before I met her.

Religion is dumb. My girl is dumb for being religious, but gladly there are far other qualities she has that I admire and that makes me think she is a great woman.

She knows my take in religion yet we are able to get along almost perfectly.

Like I said, their is more to life than religion and imaginary beings. We concentrate on other things more important to our lives. Ur imaginary being remains in her head and not in our relationship.

Are u that sad I am happy? Go hug a fat frog.

shadeyinka:
I think you are getting me wrong. I am not prophecying doom for your relationship. I don't have the right!

I am just pointing out an issue that "hot love" overlook until reality sets in. I hope then, you would not say that you are putting down your foot on religious issues.

What happens along the line if your wife becomes religiously "fanatical" over "what doesn't exist!".

I can also ask "what happens if two Christians marry and calling the line, the husband or wife becomes an atheist?

Let me tell u what happens becasue like life, shiiiit always happens.... People must learn to deal with it.

shadeyinka:
Oh! Hearing that is good news for your relationship if and only if you won't change your mind in the future.

Your second paragraph:
Everyone going into any marriage should count the cost and choose not to fret over the consequence of their choices. If a girl marries me even though she knows I have a low sperm count, then down in the marriage if no child comes up, she mustn't fret for that will kill whatever love that brought them together. So it is for both of you..count the cost and discuss about it. No two ways about communication that revolve around this.

My normal self will not encourage the union (strictly from christian point of view) but if the cost has been well factored into the relationship then the marriage will work very well.

Love is NOT a feeling
Love is a CHOICE

Don't worry, to me, it's just a believe in something that does not exist... I grew up around many people like that, I know how to handle u guys than u know how to handle people like me.

I love my baby and nothing u say can stop that.

shadeyinka:
I must confess that I respect you and your fiancée for your discission to marry each other. I am not a pessimist but, the only way your marriage will last is either you become a Christian or she becomes an Atheist.

One of the strong flash point you will encounter is children upbringing.

Ask her if she wouldn't mind that you raise some of your children as Atheist and checkout her reply.

If she says its OK with her, then know for sure that she is either not a Christian or she has an ulterior motive for loving you.

Would you mind if she raises your children as "Christians "? If she is a Christian as you say, she would not be comfortable with the idea that her children will be lost in eternity.

I am a marriage counselor. Love and understanding is necessary for a good Marriage but communication sustains it. Have you done the necessary communication? You'll thank me later.

My Respect Sir

I studied psychology... U can come around for some relationship communication skills, I can make u a better counselor... Trust me.

shadeyinka:
I must confess that I respect you and your fiancée for your discission to marry each other. I am not a pessimist but, the only way your marriage will last is either you become a Christian or she becomes an Atheist.

One of the strong flash point you will encounter is children upbringing.

Ask her if she wouldn't mind that you raise some of your children as Atheist and checkout her reply.

If she says its OK with her, then know for sure that she is either not a Christian or she has an ulterior motive for loving you.

Would you mind if she raises your children as "Christians "? If she is a Christian as you say, she would not be comfortable with the idea that her children will be lost in eternity.

I am a marriage counselor. Love and understanding is necessary for a good Marriage but communication sustains it. Have you done the necessary communication? You'll thank me later.

My Respect Sir

My children can go to church all they want... The most important thing is that I am their father... I will always be more important in their life than any imaginary being just as long as I am the best father that I wanna be

So tell.me something Mr counselor, are u suggesting my girl is better off marrying a Christian who she might not be as comfortable with as she is with me!
We will soon get married!! Communication is the least of our problems

SpicyJosBabe:
1) Do u atheists completely disbelieve the existence of the spiritual realm or spiritual powers?
If yes, then are u guys saying spiritual practices like witchcraft, Occultism, Herbalist practices and prophecies are completely non-existent or completely powerless?

I used to believe in spiritual realm as a Christian, but as an agnostic atheist, I realized I used to make up experiencces that I don't understand as spiritual. When I studied psychology, I found out that our brain could play some tricks on us, it could be based on drugs, Ill health, over flow of adrenaline, over joy or fear... These are what we interpret as experience of spiritual realm. I don't believe in any spiritual realm , but i know there is so much about this world we don't understand... I don't choose to call it spiritual realm.

2) What if u guys had a spiritual attack or encounter?
What will you do?
Who will you go to for counsel?
How will you inteprete it?
Or will you guys say you have never had such encounters before?
If negative, then what about those who have had spiritual encounters? will you guys say such people are all lying or are just hallucinating?

If I experience a strange phenomenon (spiritual attack to u) i will seek medical help. If they can't help me, then I must be mad.

However, I don't think I will ever experience any spiritual attack.

3) Since you atheists don't have an officially unified code of guideliness or scriptural stipulations guiding your ways of life, do you guys personally define your own personal codes of conduct?
If yes, how do u know what is wrong or right?
If you say you depend on your conscience for what is wrong or right, how sure are you that a conscience may never go wrong, be broken or be hardened and hereby deliver wrong judgements?

Everybody knows what's wrong or right becasue everyone has feelings.

Let me ask u... Do u think chickens feel happy being Slaughtered? If common animals with lower brain know what's right or wrong, how munch more we humans.

Do unto others wht u will like them to unto u.

Of course my conscience can go wrong... That's why no man is an island. We all need each other to guide our excesses.

Was Mohammed sent to the whole world?

SpicyJosBabe:
Yes o. Their bad side terrifies me. I can't imagine the man i claim to love who also claims to love me and the one whom i gave myself to start maltreating me or worse off to hit me. I am so much afraid of the hitting part.

Trust me, u don't sound like a babe whom anyone will want to maltreat.

Just be perceptive, rather than careful, in ur relationships, evidence of an abusive character is always there... Your carefulness will not reveal it but if u pay attention u will know what kind of man he is.

My late fiance was a Christian yet we had an almost perfect relationship. She always bothered me with prayer sessions and fasting and all that and insisted we must Wed in church which I accepted for the sake of love..I miss her and i am proud of myself because she confessed she never met a guy like me.

Now, 3 years later I am in a new relationship with a Christian and we should be getting married by next year.

One thing most religious folks fail to understand is that there is more to a relationship than Yahweh or Allah. Their ignorance and the deciept by pastors has led them to think that one cannot function normally outside religion.

Apart from going to church and praying to urself, humans will still go home and interact with each other. Our daily lives have absolutely nothing to do with any nonexistent God. Relationship involves sacrifice, pain, love, learning, respect, all of which humans must learn how to balance in order to be in a steady relationship.
I love my girl and she is so comfortable with me.

All my relatives know I don't buy all this church and religious stuff, yet they are amazed at how i am quick to respond to their plight. I am like the good black sheep of my family, I hate religious matter yet, despite not being rich, everyone seem to lean on me.

I respect my girl and we have learned to be with each other, we laugh at our jokes and know when not to cross each others boundary and that's respect. Yet we are not a perfect duo... But we are happy.

If God exists, he must be foolish. He is the source of segregation among the very humans he claims he created and loves. He went into hiding and when someone does not believe he exists, he asks those who believes not to be equally yoked with them. Yet their is no perfect relationship between this so called believer.

The op proudly opened a thread to preach hate in the name of a loving God. Yet she will hypocritically point accusing fingers at a Muslim who rejects his daugther for dating a Christian.

Well for me, even though I think religion is dumb, I still believe good people will always be good and bad people will always be bad. There are bad religious people and good religious people. There are also bad atheists and good atheists.

Imagine the irony of this thread... Loving Christians preaching hate, while murderous atheists are sying it's possible to live with Christians despite the difference. But loving Christians insists that we should never live together.

I'd rather advice my sister to marry a good man like me.

Vick4rill:
i dnt ve tym for baseless arguement. so pls swap.

No need to argue... Just pointed out the hypocrisy in ya all Christians. Now that u know he is a Christian, does ur first comment on this thread change? Or does it make u a hypocrite?

Just watch urself before u wreck urself.

Samunique:
U are very correct, even myself visit once in a while, that's what seun wants.
I don't know whether he has been paid by those who spend millions of ( oil )dollar every year to destroy Christianity bcs of their religion, if not so I don't know why he chooses to treat Christianity with so much disdain while accords special honour and section for the other religion.

U can't imagine different kinds of ridiculous threads he opened against Christianity recently which he will never try against Islam, one will wonder what he intends to archive from that as the owner of nairaland who is supposed to stay neutral when it comes to such an issue as sensitive as religion.


Even myself is considering quitting this forum since the owner is not ready to stay neutral.

As for the rest of the Atheists on this forum, I've got no time for them.

Oga, sop whining like a baby and leave the forum quietly, I bet u, nobody will even notice.

honourhim:
Your stupidity tells you that its only when you mention the word "thank you" that you have actually thanked somebody. SMH.
My point is that you shouldnt tell him not to disturb anybody's peace.

Watch the way u insult... Dear loving Jesus will put u in hell. Do u want to go to hell? Be careful

Vick4rill:
apologies bro. nw i understand. may God strengthen u the more.

Lol, so now that u understand, it is right for him to broadcast it? I expect u to still condemn him for broadcasting in the first place. So does his broadcasting his belief status show that he still have doubt?

branhampaul:
Devil Is Deceiving You Bera Get Wise And Know God..
If No God, Why Do;
1. Miracles Happen.
2. How Can There Be An Antagonist (satan) Without A Protagonist.
3. Why Did Science Even Confirmed That Humans Have Soul.
4. Why Doesn't The Bible Contradict Itself?
5. Why Are All Bible Prophecies Coming To Pass?
6. Why When A Child Of God Get Shot They Don't Die.
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Mr.Man Thinkkk Naaa..

Lol... Are u for real? U are just talking like a five year old... Mr man, receive sense in Jesus name

Joeblis:
I'm passing through the most difficult moments of my life and I feel that any decision I make at this period is crucial and will eventually shape the rest of my life.

Many questions have been running through my mind many of which I haven't gotten answers to, I have gone through countless research on science and philosophy looking for answers still haven't found any, this quest have expanded my view and changed my mindset totally.

Religion doesn't appeal to me anymore but I still believe in God wholeheartedly or I'm I confused?....I can't figure I have been having sleepless nights.

The atmosphere of Christianity in Nigeria is not encouraging and I need to pull out for the sake of my mind. there are many things on my mind I'd like to write but I hate length post. the question is can I be deist and still have affiliations with Christianity? is there any other way to seek God apart from organized religion? am I being Shortsighted? I'm just confused. I'm really open minded and ready to consider any premise that makes sense to me.

I'm about rounding up my first degree after which I'm considering going for a theology degree, I know for sure there is something beyond this earth humans can't comprehend of which I won't let humans with the same thinking capability as me help me figure. I want to seek God my own way. please mature peeps in the house should help me.

What are you seeking a God for? What benefit will that give u? Why do u think u are obligated to worship an imaginary being that no one has ever seen?

Isn't it time we do away with this slave mentality and live a peacful life. Serving any God is just a useless venture for a mind that lack self confidence.

Why not live ur life and if any God exist he will reach u if he feels the need? If u think being good is a good thing, then be good and forget about God and religions.

Lennycool:
and the congregation will believe, it will even spur them to drop an extra note for offering. That's why men of God love testimonies.

Of course, it becomes blessing time. Yet everyone leaves the church the same, just a hopeful ego.

KingEbukasBlog:
So if I open a thread telling a story that show how atheists are deluded , illogical and deceitful , will you agree with me ?

Will u agree with ur story? That's the most important thing.

JackBizzle:
That is the point- the op's story doesnt have to be true. We already know how religiously mad many Nigerians are, just like you....

Lol...thank u.the story doesn't have to be true... Even Ebuka knows he will act this way. Or he knows a couple of brethren that will act this way

winner01:
Is that what Jesus would do?
And next time, its winner01.
You dey fear?

No, Jesus will turn the car to water and walk on it. U know say Jesus na the father of mamiwater.

Are u scary? Never knew u were that ugly

excellencyabia1:
how I wish you could tress her to her Church and see the kind of testimony she will give

Pra! Pra!! Praise tha looorrrd!!!! Brothers and sisters the lord God saved me from the hands of kidnappers. They actually disguised like kind people but I didn't know they were demonic agents. God inspired me to preach and their real identity was revealed... Brethren I prayed and cast and bind and the lord forced then to drop me, I had to track 6kilometers to work... Brethren I would have been dead by now... PRAISE THA LOOOOOORD!!!!!!!!!!

hopefulLandlord:
sounds like something KingEbuka and Winner01 would do

every atheist is Stalin

Lol... Winner or promise10 will start purging while they cast and bind. They will make sure the poor kind man who helped them got arrested. They will call him a kidnapper and a murderer.

Smallville10:
what is dis one sayin sef... Mtcheeeeew

Finally, ur useless thread should be closed.

U are obviously tooooo SMALL for the topic u raised

Smallville10:
hahahaha. So do athiests now believe in repentance of sin?

Dullards every where...


Oh oh oh, infact that statement implies I am now born again. Infact saying. "if I slap u, u will repent from ur sin" makes me a pastor, can u now pay ur tithe to me?

Mumu

promise10:
sin 1 - /sɪn/
noun
1. an immoral act considered to be a transgression
against divine law(God).

So, bro what exactly do you mean by the word "sin"? Committed against who? A non existent imaginary being?

Hope to hear how one can repent of the sin committed against a non existent imaginary being? I think that can make up my day.

As usual, the joke is lost on u. The problem with u is that your brain is damned too small. No wonder Jesus loves u.

winner01:
Only God can make them settle it. Pain and frustrations may not make them settle it right now.

Ur God should first of all deal with his own pain and frustration.

The would he built had turned the backs in him, his angels left with Lucifer and humans are rebellious. Now all he does is very and beg humans to worship and love him like a little baby. He's even resort to threatening us with fire if we don't love him. Invisible sky daddy indeed

I want to congratulate you Mr. Winner, I just found someone whose brain is much smaller than urs.
Am I the only who just noticed that this promise10 of a guy sounds deranged?

Chai.

Oga, deal with it, ur God is nothing but a sky daddy. Let it down on u, u are worshipping and invisible sky daddy. Yaweh is nothing but an invisible sky daddy.

U can scream all day, your God does not exist and u will forever remain frustrated hoping he does.

promise10:
No bro, stop looking stupid!

Why asking if Jesus was seen flying into heaven? Thought you said he never existed?

He didn't fly, he ASCENDED! Did you even go to school? Don't you know the difference between "flying" and "ascending"? Go and grab a primary school english book on that, I think that can help you.

If Jesus had the power to raise dead people and resurrect himself after he died for salvation purpose, would ascending and acting against gravity be a difficult thing for him?


Stop fooling, you are not deranged!

He ascended, and guess what? When he was ascending he was not seen of, 10 persons, 100 persons, 200 persons, 300 or 400 person, BUT was rather seen of 500 person. The 500 persons were mixture of the public, both believers, unbelievers, agnostics, atheists e.t.c. Of which many of them were still alive at the time of paul. Hope you would look smart to debunk the existence of paul?

God doesn't reside in the sky. If you are sweating in your miserable life trying to debunk something that resides in the sky, then it is definitely not God.

The most stupid thing I have seen an atheist do is to fake up something about God, and argue with theists on the basis of what he faked up, just the way hopefulLandlord did the other day only to get stuck at the end of the day.

Now u accept he ascended to the sky? Abi them de ascend downwards in ur village?

Make up ur mind... Is ur God and invisible sky daddy or just an invisible DADDY?