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KingEbukasBlog:
He is actually telling you that he is confused . .

U are actually showing ur mumuness here which is not surprising considering ur history on this forum.

Does the op believe Yahweh exists? If he does I am letting him see the absurdity of his claim about atheists being murderers.

If the op believes Yahweh does not exists why is he opening a thread on atheism

Richirich713:
so are u now saying God exists??

Yes I was working on ur assumption... Or are now saying he does not exist?

KingEbukasBlog:
Which Yahweh , the imaginary one ? How can you link murders and murderers to an imaginary being ? I thought you said Yahweh does not exist ?

I thought u said Yahweh exists.

Richirich713:
There's an obvious link between atheism and mass murder, history has shown this.

Good observation bro.

However ur tiny brain forgets that Yahweh is the master mind of it all. He created these evil men. He gave them the ability, they couldn't have gotten it from nowhere but from the one who made them. Recall the creator makes no mistakes, he sees the end from the beginning. He decides the pace of the world. He gives atheists the ability to commit mass murder... Pls tell me what's wrong with Yahweh. Remember Yahweh loves blood too... It all points back to Yahweh bro. When u point finger at atheists mass murders u are indirectly pointing at Yahweh.

Pidgin2:
Did you see the title of the thread? "It's 10 notorious athiest villains" your attempt to derail it has been noted, Yaweh can never be confused.

Of course I saw the title... How ever I am wondering why Yahweh will create these notorious people. Why are they part of his perfect grand plan? Why must evil men or evil spirits be part of his plan... Could it be because he is evil too? Or is he just confused?

realmindz:
Yeah...They were all created by Yaweh who had the ultimate plan

And I tell u, Yaweh will be impressed and satisifed with their works

Lol... Except they accept that Yahweh is confused

realmindz:
Guess ur thread is not captivating enough and boring... This is nothing to make any logic, u even shoot yourself at the leg with this thread because the thread in itself is a mockery of religion

well i have made a comment here to at least encourage you.

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Pidgin2:
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Hey, you have seriously offended me by this post. What is the need for all these insults? I proclaim a curse on your generation. You will learn that the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is still alive and the demons speaking through you will abandon you during the years of your calamity. Thus says the Lord whom you insult for no reason "Vengance is mine" when He begins to act you shall find no helpers

I am more shocked that someone actually liked this... Seriously, don't u feel shame and foolish typing all this? U need help ASAP

I can even imagine that girl screaming " give it to me! Don't stop, don't u dear stop! Oh god! This is so sweet!"

The beauty of atheism... We do anything we like as long as it makes us and people around us happy.

I will definitely have my fun this Xmas. I will see friends and relatives,i will hang out and travel and I will still not give a f.ck about a dead Jew... Life will still go on and the important thing will be.. I had fun.

Chai... The guy looks like a clown, the girl looks like a hen without feathers

blueAgent:
The God of the Bible which is the christain God is the only true God. gods of other religeon are worshipped and referenced through objects,material things like India's religeon were they believe cattle is scared.
but God can only be worshiped in spirit becos he is a spirit.
Only the God of the Bible. has given us clear narrative or view about the origin of man and the Universe.gods of other religeon don't claim to have made man or the Universe.

Bible prophecies given over 3000yrs ago have been furfilled and more will still happen.
All the other religeons have several stories and myths about man and his origin. only Christainity affirms that man was created,no other religeon has given reasons or solution to world problems only christainity has given us The reason for this problems with a promise to end it.

U are so confused... What an ignorant comment!!!

darbeelicous:
I'm not going to have any argument with you dear because like I said, that's my opinion,............ But if u think that my opinion does not make sense, then that's your opinion. ........

Lol... Madam opinion.

darbeelicous:
I've being a silent follower in these christain and atheists thread recently.
I've always opined that atheists are those who are afraid in one way or the other to dedicate their lives and be totally committed in a supreme being........ So they choose to live free.
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Not that it's wrong or anything!
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but dats just my opinion though,
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#God'snotdead.

Ya, that's ur opinion alright, but don't u realize this this ur opinion no make sense?

PDBonline:
It's an assumption that if God speaks His voice can be recorded. There are other sounds in nature that other animals naturally pick but it took us several centuries of scientific sophistication to pick. We were the ones not picking the sounds all along.
People who are not directly hit by bomb can still be killed by the sound waves generated that is beyond the limits of our ears to pick.

About MMM, if God tells someone something, it is in that person's interest. His or her case may be different from yours. For example, I have wanted to play the "Who wants to be a millionaire" home play before and God tells me not to. I won't go on the street to tell everyone not to. It's personal.

HOWEVER GOD IS REAL AND HE SPEAKS TO US. HE CAN SPEAK TO YOU TOO- IN FACT HE DOES, BUT RARELY IN AUDIBLE VOICE.

[size=14pt]Other Examples of God Speaking To Me[/size]

- I was in an executive meeting and the M.D. was talking about opening another branch somewhere and sending one of the staffs to handle the place. God lets me know that will be a wrong move and I tried to persuade the man not to make the move but he was so confident (I too didn't tell him God said so anyway). Well he ended up losing both the staff and all the investment in the branch.

- I thought my spouse would have someone she would marry already when I met her. God told me I was wrong and she later confirmed it.

- Someone had prayed that he wanted a divine confirmation of the course he would study to be sure and that God should use me for this (I won't advise anyone doing that anyway). It was computer science he was considering but just wanted to be sure. Immediately we met I "saw" COMPUTER SCIENCE written across his forehead before I knew why he came. That was wasn't what I cooked up.

- Someone went for a job interview and it looked very bad plus initially she was not interested (people have said the CEO of the company is wicked). Well, I told her what God told me when I asked about it: 1. She will be employed 2. It will be for her training to learn how to run a similar company and it will be a rigorous training.
SURE ENOUGH, she was employed and within 3 months (before six month when she was to be confirmed) she was promoted to head all the branches and to represent the CEO which led to her training to handle things only the CEO normally handles. The company is currently in her care under the CEOs watch.

... and so on. What you choose to believe can either help or limit you. God is real and He is my Advantage.

Pls what did God tell u about boko haram and Nigeria recession... What did he say is the solution to all these?

Peacesamnuel can u pls answer this question for me?


So u believe other lesser creators (gods) exist too?

Pls can u tell me the portion of the universe Allah (a lesser God/creator) created.

peacesamuel94:
Ok

Pls answer me... So u believe other lesser creators (gods) exist too?

Pls can u tell me the portion of the universe Allah (a lesser God/creator) created.

peacesamuel94:
I dont know what your anger is all about, The fact is, Christians believe Allah exists but do not regard Him to be supreme. And i'm not the reason why that is so....

And Muslims believe Allah is the one true God, and consider others as lesser(that is if they even believe they exist).

was just pointing out fact, so your rants are unnecessary.

Lol...I have shown u how ridiculous ur position is... U have nothing to say to me, u CAN'T even dare respond to the points I raised, so u resort to calling me an angry person. What's that?

U call another person's supreme God a lesser God and u don't even feel worse than atheist... Clap for yourself, u accept Allah exist but he deserves to be insulted, therefore u can proudly not be called an atheist

peacesamuel94:
Monotheism is the belief in one and only TRUE God. Christians believe in the existence if one True God, but this does not mean they do not believe other gods exist, but do not regard them as the One True God, and hence do not worship them.

Define other gods here pls... Are u saying they believe other creators exist too?

peacesamuel94:
Believing in their existence in the first place, has already ruled out the chance of being atheistic. Atheism is not disbelief in the supremacy of a God or gods, rather it is the disbelief in their existence.
Any thing that makes you aknowledge the existence of a deity at all, has no connection whatsoever with atheism. If you as an atheist should acknowledge the existence of Jehovah but do not regard him to be the supreme God, do you think you can still be called an atheist ?



And as regards your question, if you are so desperate to label my stance, then maybe you should look for another Word to use, but atheism is certainly not it.

I think if I have to label u here, u are even worst than an atheist, I need time to coin a word for that.

U think a Muslim's Allah exist but u insult it by calling it a lesser God? What's the difference or which is worst... Yahweh exists but is a lesser God or Yaweh does not exist? Pick one and shame urself

U can pat ur self in the back and pride ur self for at least accepting that Allah exist yet thinking it's okay to insult it by calling it a lesser God. This is someone's supreme being.
Now I understand why Muslims think u are an infidel and deserves death.

How will u feel if I say this.... Yahweh exists but he is a fool? Have i come out of the shackles of atheism by maintaining the above position? Pls say yes becasue I even think calling Yahweh a lesser God and devil agent is more fun than saying he does not exist

Wilgrea7:
do you think the knowledge of science is necessary? yet science didn't come slapping us in the face... the laws we have today were derived from inquisition... from seeking answers... not waiting for the answers to drop from the sky... at the end when you get the knowledge, you'll realize that it was worth it

Is science looking for God? People have lived millions of years on earth, no God appeared... Of course knowledge of science is necessary... They have helped the world become a better place. That's why the quest for God is useless... It has just created hatred, segregation, hypocrisy and self righteousness.

lol ... bro... i dunno what image mainstream Christians have painted for you... but I'm not like that.. i do try to be a better person. funny as it may sound, God has helped me to aspire to become a better person.. arguing here on nl doesn't mean that's all i do... I'm actually on a break
.. that's why I'm here. there is so much good to be done in the world.. funny as it may sound, many people spend their time arguing whose version of God is more correct and pointing whose doctrine is wrong meanwhile the world around them is decaying with hatred .. God isn't concerned about who is arguing if he exists or not.. the people we know that are existing... let's help them first... my opinion tho

No God helped u become a better person. If u want to be a good person u will be. U decided to be a good person, no God forced u to b any good person. Anybody can be a good person if they want to... I know many good people who don't identify with any God. Saying God helped u become a better person is just a claim.

Wilgrea7:


that one got me

nd u feel he's gonna punish you for all eternity afterwards, bro.. what do you think.... you rely on people to interpret things for you.... if its about wat happens in the afterlife, there are many beliefs of the afterlife... each lacking concrete evidence outside their books... the jews who serve the same God as Christians have a different view of the afterlife... so do muslims...

butter truth is, nobody is sure where you go after death... but science has confirmed that there is life after death.. i suggest you take a look into near death experiences in general and other views of the afterlife before you conclude that God wants to burn you for all eternity. the issue of hell is why many people can't serve God with their heart... just do a research of different beliefs of the afterlife... you'll understand that no one has the monopoly of correct afterlife... so don't worry about that... focus on seeking him if you must.... nd try not to overlook the obvious

Lol... I am not seeking anything. U can see that from ur post above, religion is confused. Where then will I seek him? He should reveal himself already and I will know... Perhaps he thinks me seeking him is not important... Have u thought along this line? Perhaps, the reason why we don't know how the world came to exists becasue what/who ever created it does not think the information is necessary.

My advice, take out ur time and seek out how to be a better person and forget about any God... If God exists and actually want the world to know him, trust me, we will not be here arguing.

Wilgrea7:
i don't understand the last sentence please



such a creator as in how... in the sense of revealing himself?

Such a creator who created me and can't seem to understand that as long as he does not reveal himself to me, I will continue to doubt him, instead he just plans to punish me forever and ever afterwards.

Wilgrea7:
your opinion bro

i still wish you the best of luck

Thanks ks for understanding my point of view and wishing me the best... However... My problem is that ur God idea seem to be one that creates us yet does not understand this despite him being the creator.

For this... I am worried for u who believes that such a creator exists. I wish u come to ur senses bro... Before u wreck urself.

Wilgrea7:
thanks for clarifying...

you don't believe and you're not truly searching.... so its gonna be kinda hard




there is a difference between saying

1. i don't know if he's my father

and

1. i don't believe he exists

so the ten men scenario can't apply if you don't believe the ten men actually exist

there's difference between

1. i don't know which of them is my father and i would like to find out and would like my true father to reveal himself with evidence ...and

2. i don't believe any of these men exist

not believing they exist won't let you look forward to any evidence thereby, you might also be overlooking the obvious

but don't worry... i do hope you find proof someday

How is it my fault if I say I don't believe he exists? What do I stand to gain by maintaining he he does not exist when I know he exists. Did he probe himself to me in the first place?
I as a human, have no reason to think that there is a creator out there who cares for this world. Saying that he wants me to first truly search hin before he reveals himself to me makes no sense to my own world of natural order of things, therefore I will not do it. If he created me out of his own will and decides to go into hiding expecting me to go search for him, he must truly be a huge joke and I don't have time for such games.

Wilgrea7:
your comment did somehow sound like an insult... but that's passed... so I'm sorry

secondly,... if you claim you're truly searching, then you'd find him... i dunno when or how long you've been searching... but all i can say is ... try not to overlook the obvious...

also, concerning ten men scenario, your real father would always identify.. your real father would know you.... your real father might have been helping you without you even knowing.. that's why i said don't overlook the obvious..

i asked if you're a full blown atheist or agnostic for a reason... cuz u can't expect somebody you don't believe exists to show himself... except you're really willing to know... that's why i asked the question... if you're really willing, and you don't overlook the obvious, then you'd definitely find him... i don't know how long you've been searching... but if you are sincere, then my advice to you is not to give up.. just not yet... don't give up... you'll find him..
if you're sincere.

cheers

I don't believe any God exists so I can't truly search for him but I am willing to accept if I see something convincing.

If my father is among the ten, helping me without me knowing, how then is it my fault that I don't accept him as my father. If u accept that I "don't know"( based on ur quote "without me knowing') how then do u expect me to accept a man I don't know is my father as my father.

Wilgrea7:
i don't come out with excuses... i don't start what i can't finish

ok ..

then lemme rephrase the question since you don't understand

what are you expecting as a sign of finding God?

like ... is it a dream, a vision , or you're waiting for a white bearded dude to say "here i am".. is it a voice? that's why i asked the question earlier...

you might have gotten a sign.. maybe its not what you were looking for.. or maybe its not something u consider a “sign"..

do you meditate??

are you a full blown atheist or just agnostic?

i await your reply

First, I expected u to apologise for accusing me wrongly that I insulted u.

Second, if I am searching for my real father an ten people come out and claim they are my father... As a human with BRAIN I will select the one that can prove beyond reasonable doubt, above all others, that he is my father.

I am not looking for dream, neither do I have anything specific I am looking for... I just want him to show me that he is my God. Seriously, if he has shown m any sign and I still doubt him, probably he is not convincing enough. He us my creator, he should know what I need to get convinced, especially if he claims he really loves me and cares for me like u guys say.

DoctorAlien:
What can you do about the fact that GOD will destroy wicked people?

i will put hot rod in his anus

Wilgrea7:
pathetic excuses?? so now the best you can result to is insults right? i thought u were gonna be logical in this.. but if you want to turn it to an attack, then no problem.. if you're really ready to know or you would like me to expatiate on what i said, then you can mention me..

but if you're just going to attack me, then don't mention me

i read my reply over and over again, i cant see where i insulted u... why you accuse me of insulting you, when i didnt. what is wrong wiyth u guys? please show me the insult in the quote below



Smh... Must u always come out with pathetic excuses?
Which one is it depends on what I am searching for? Ain't wr talking about searching for God? Which one again is it depends on what I was searching for? No, I was searching for my key

joyContraMundum:
ODE. Spectacular slowpoke with a monumental ego. You want to contest the FACT that there ARE teenagers who're more intelligent than YOU? Well, I'm gonna mention names this time. Iyanu Favour Ayorinde (Teempakguy) is more intelligent than you. Jacob Bernard is more intelligent than you..... We can try and find out if you wanna contest this. Stop being such a moro'n. You can't tell me that you're more intelligent than every teenager out there. That would be damn stvpid.

And of course, I'm not arrogant enough to dispute the fact that there're teens like my self who're vastly more intelligent than I am. I, however, also recognize the fact that there're adults who're far less intelligent, and I've met a lot of them.

Stop playing stvpid. You know quite well that I wasn't refering to "this particular" one, unless you have a problem with comprehension. I was responding to the claim that "he can't understand you BECAUSE he's a teenager", putting it to you that "lack of comprehension" is not a teeny thing cos there are a lot of incredibly stvpid adults and ol' men out there who can't comprehend the most basic things. Does that make them teenagers too? I hope you get the hang of it now.

That's unnecessary as its irrelevant to this.

You don't even need to talk much, everyone can see that the guy is a pure example of a foolish adult

shadeyinka:
Yahweh, A noun that doesn't exist!
If Yahweh doesn't exist why should it make you mad?

Santa Clause "doesn't exist", therefore I have never been mad that he is a fable. I still tell kids about the Father Christmas (me inside the red and white rig/clown dress) who brings gifts with this big booming sound. Since Santa Claus "doesn't exist", why should it bother me?

However, Yahweh is real. You struggle to push Him away but He won't go. You think you already know, but knowledge wise, you still have a long way to go.

I took my time to read ALL the threads and post here and I see that you have pitched your tent...Fire on!

When you die, you will KNOW that spirits don't die AND you are a spirit in the designer cloth of Flesh and Blood.

Do I want to scare you? No way!
Do I want you to ask relevant questions? Yes!

A wise man is he who his cup of knowledge is never full.

Where did he say Yahweh or what ever is making him mad? Did u have a private discussion with him to learn this or are u just good at coming up with ridiculous accusations?
Someone says he suddenly realised that Yahweh is not real and ur brain tells u he is mad? I don't gerit