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bloodofthelamb:
We know that humans have a beginning but you don't know if God has.

Before you ask who created God, you should ask if He has a beginning. Because something that has no beginning needs no creator.

Lol... God has no begining? So after living on and on alone he decided to create man with reproductive organ then decided to go into hiding from the humans he created.

See what the op believes in? Yet he has the guts to to ask atheists how reproductive organs came to b

Emmanystone:
And the breast had to mount out to enable another organism suck or feed from it. Why is the man's chest so smooth?

Whats the bible answer to this question?

If mans chest was rough would u ask why is was not smooth?

Pls let us know why yahweh made mans chest smooth. U claim to have access to the creator

iamwhat:
Good!
I know you would be searching for an answer, please update us when you get one!
Thanks for your honesty.

How did the human reproductive organ came to be?

iamwhat:
Do you have answer answer yet ?

Nope

iamwhat:
If you claimed to be an athiest that doesn't accept evolution theory, can I conclude that you don't care about how you came into being ?

Of course i wonder how we came to be...

danvon:
Did you read his post he never said humans were created out of nothing, I'm asking him what's his version of creation and he's just twisting

Atheist are supposed to be more logical than those who believe creation it's like you oppose a myth with a myth

Read ur post, u said atheist believe humans were created by nothing

Tollzara:
All these nincompoops whose brain cells have been mercilessly deformed by cold-blooded bible worms.

Does being an atheist make one an evolutionary biologist?

This is a question for biologists, not atheists. And I for one am not informed enough to pontificate carelessly on such topic.

Anyways, evolution is the central theme of Biology, has made sense of a lot of observations as pertaining to life and its processes, and is the theory that offers the best and most all-encompassing explanation for how life came to be what it is today. It has explained a lot. [color=darkgreen]That there are several details we're still ignorant of[/color] doesn't in anyway discredit or refute the theory.

OP, if you're so interested in this particular question, you can carry out some research and help provide the answer. Become a evolutionary biologist and contribute your own portion to the bulk of human knowledge.

Take note, however, that [color=darkblue]the answer to this question would have no bearing on my atheism[/color], because I was already an atheist before accepting evolution as FACT. And I'm quite certain the same is true for a lot of other atheists. Yes, I'm telling you how irrelevant the question is to atheism.

One cant help wonder how these people reason. He called out atheists by asking them questions for biologists and evolutionists.

In their world, once u have no faith to believe in the exstence of an unproven being, u have automatically became a world renown scientist.

danvon:
Snakeman were not done here you didn't answer anything your just twisting out of your hole...simple question "How did we come into existence according to you" Atleast say that the world is computer simulation created by Machines... nope nothing

If atheists say humans are created by nothing and u say ur God was created by nothing why are making a fuss about it?

butterflyl1on:
True! Why sex? Why not the woman having both the ovum and sperm in her and simply release the sperm to fertilise her own eggs by herself? Why the separation into men and women and why the need to come together to achieve reproduction?

Why must men be the producers of sperm and not the women while the men produce eggs?

Since we are separate genders how did evolution see necessity for reproduction especially when we are separate. It would have been a necessity if both the sperm and ovum were in one carrier and not different carriers.

That guy is not thinking at all yet is claiming intelligence while dodging questions by offering different things entirely.

Why not sex?

If the woman have both the ovum and sperm in her and simply release the sperm to fertilise her own eggs by herself will u not still think its your Gods doing?

Whats ur arguement? will not seperating humans into men and women without them coming together to achieve reproduction make ur God idea less intelligent?

How does saying God did it answer the foolish question the op is asking?

Sometimes u guys amaze me. U can question everything like a reasonable human but not ur imaginery God idea. The same detail answers u need on how human reproduction came to be is still right there in your face waiting for u to come uo with even when u say God did it.

How did God create the human reproductive organ? Why did he allow sex? Why did he not ensure the woman havep both the ovum and sperm in her and simply release the sperm to fertilise her own eggs by herself? Why the separation into men and women and why the need to come together to achieve reproduction?

Image123:
Who told you? BTW, i would not think myself a psychic.

Then stop acting like one

debolayinka:
To many atheist, God does not exist, but satan does!

Fools!

No be me call them, na wetin bible talk.

Isnt it sad? Even fools know there is no God and u that is wise does not know.

Ronpet777:
To prove how spineless and unreasonable they r, now that it's late and everyone is abt to go to bed, they will come and drop comments to act like Jackie Chan. Y didn't u face me and talk well? Dare to challenge me tomorrow and I will show to u that ur only hope is to question other pple's belief without even having an iota of existential significance. U r all as good as dead. No purpose, just a mistake by evolution.So Wot can a useless living creature preach? I will be a fool to ever argue with a direction less individual who is accusing a person of going d wrong way.Has he found a way for himself yet? When u find a pathway to follow, do contact me. I will be ur guest on d journey. Kids!!! Till 2moro by God's grace

U started up here like a cool guy, easy to talk with. Now u are acting all irritated and insultive.
For me, my interaction with theists in this session has shown that God can never be proven. He is just meant to be believed. U can syary up nice and simply based on ur conviction that God is real but trust me... after u have been asked just simple questions about ur belief, trust me u will have no choice but to be angry at people Who have taken it upon themselves to poke holes in ur belief u hold so dearly.
Its not really ir fault its Gods fault for not being real finally.

butterflyl1on:
Funny right? Laughing out loud wouldn't change this spiritual fact.

Yes, u and ur God are a huge joke

bingbagbo:
Nairaland has no creator, it came by itself. The name seun people attribute the creation of Nairaland to does not exist. Seun is a figment of some people's imagination. There are many other Internet platforms and they have no creator.












Seun does not exist

U will burn in Seun's hell for saying this.. you better repent and ask seun for forgiveness before his wrath falls on you

butterflyl1on:
Stop dancing around like a fish out of water. Are you not talking science anymore? Is science now science fiction? Does science not thrive on what is observable anymore? Has any scientific equipment observed any universe outside our observable universe?

Why are you this silly? Must you comment just to display your ignorance? Show me the other universes and how to observe them since you believe there are other universes.

God cannot be seen in the flesh but can be seen via his spirit in us. His spirit and him are one. His works also testify about him.

Gods signature is in all of creation and it's beauty and total harmony. Nothing on earth can exist without the other. Children of God can and do trace their origin to the very day they gave their lives to Jesus for the Bible says "if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature. Old things are passes away and behold ALL things are become new. Plus we know God via his spirit and know that he is bigger than the biggest and nothing can compare unto him as the alpha and omega. The uncreated creator. It's pretty simple really but I understand why you are struggling

God can be seen via his spirit in u? Lol

Tozara:
So I was even replying a morön who believes Jesus' pictures are everywhere? There were cameras 2000 years ago?

It was absolutely accurate to call this retãrded woman a cretinous fucktãrd.

So God manifested himself in Jesus Christ?

How did anyone know that? Because Jesus said so?

How did anyone know that Jesus said that? Because the Bible said that Jesus said so?

How does one know that the Bible isn't LYING? Because the Bible says it's the word of God?

How does one prove that the Bible is the word of God? Again, because the Bible says so?

Which fool can't see how CIRCULAR all these rubbish is?

'The fool says in his heart, "there's no God".' Don't you SEE?! Even THE FOOL GETS IT!

---

John: How do you know Kunle is not a thief?

James: Because KUNLE SAID THAT he's not a thief.

[color=darkgreen]RIP Logic[/color].

Damn!!! Who is this guy?

Tozara:
Where did this retãrded piece of shiit come out from? Your hollow head oozes stupidity more than your diseased pussy secretes nasty worms.

Make sure you quote this post and after reading and replying it, turn around to tell me that I don't exist too. Cretinous fucktãrd.

This is so so savageous

this is the funniest thing I have read on nairaland in a while

Ronpet777:
That's a very false accusation.I had a misconception abt Allah which is a very general believe. Amadiohia is a small god in d class of Sango, Oya and d likes. I never equated them with God almighty.

You equated them with ur almighty God when u said u were all worshiping the same God. You said the source is the same but the channel was different.

Ronpet777:
That's a very false accusation.I had a misconception abt Allah which is a very general believe. Amadiohia is a small god in d class of Sango, Oya and d likes. I never equated them with God almighty.

U said u were worshiping the same Gods with Pagans. if now why did it inform u that pastors destroy shrines and And even went ahead to claim that pastors destroy only shrines that do bad things.
What God did u think Vaxx was worshiping?

RealLordZeus:
Ban sha dey hungry u bro,
Well, a new account is free

Why will seun ban him because he says he does not exist.

bingbagbo:
They say a certain seun created Nairaland but I don't believe it.
Nairaland has no creator, it existed on its own
I have never seen the so called seun before
I have never heard his voice
Yet some fools say he exists
Seun does not exist


NNonsense

Very good... no one is going to beat u neither will u go to jail for not believing he exists.
U are even free to.continue using nairaland.

awesomeJ:
Not anymore. The time passed.
I was gonna make a decree on something that'll happen to you within a timeframe, and we'd have both agreed on the details of the circumstance. I would then have made the decree, and you would have experienced it. And that would have demonstrated to you that the supernatural exists. Because it would have been such forces that would have gone out to work out the manifestation of the decree, God having established it.

It would have surely worked as have several others I have made.

But why you didn't sign up for it yesterday is what I still don't understand. Now it's late already.
And before you start questioning why it can't be done at just any time, you should know like I have said that there are principles which govern things including spiritual things, and they must be rightly applied.

I WAITED TILL about 10:45pm last night. Deal would be off by 12:00am. I didn't have to mention that to you. it wasn't necessary.
So since something undefined to me kept you from picking up the challenge, I figure, God must have decided to save you a ton of troubles.

Not to worry though. Just one of these days. Could be years from now, when the atmosphere is right as it really was yesterday for me to present YOU another proof I will.

SO THIS THREAD IS OFFICIALLY OVER.

We'll continue the conversation on those other threads you make comments on.

Have a great week. God bless you.

Why do i have the feeling that you are an atheist who just want to ridicule Christianity

Ronpet777:
U have made ur point so very clearly and I hv read extensively abt it and I am even still doing more research cos I find this illumination so fascinating.
In all humility I can assure you that I submit to being wrong abt Yahweh our God and their own Allah. I see the difference with every study I make. I went tru many books and allusions were made to d Quran for confirmation. I am still in shock from the things I hv read abt Mohammad and his msg and his God.

good, now u understand what I mean when I said what i said in the quote below....

U stand the same chance to be in hell as atheists. U could still be worshiping the wrong God. U dont believe in Allah, amadioha or Odin. Even as a Christian, there are different denominations? What if roman catholic, or JW, or seventh day Adventist is the real deal and u dont attend any of these churches.

The bad news is the so called God cannot just make a definite statement to everyone at one time and leave the choice to man to follow.

U follow one God and reject all others. U attend one church out of all the hundreds of denomination... do the math and tell me how u are different from atheists...

Emmanystone:
You are still talking about Channels. How many Channels did YHWH used to reach men in OT? And pls lets call the God we are refering to by name. Every deity is an almigbty to them who worships him or it.

No, not everyone had the Holy Spirit then. Only a select few. And pls not, His method were the same with all the vessels He used in the OT. He didn't change is Method.

If you leave the message giver and dwell on the message alone, you'd be deceived. Question is who is allah? Have you researched allah?

I asked you questions you didn't answer, if you had answered, i'd know how to go about this.

Before Muhammad was born, his grandfather Al Mutallab served Allah as his Chief priest. He had a son whom he called Abdullah. He dedicated him to the serve of allah. Abdullah had muhammed.
Now, who was Allah who Al Mutallab and Abdullah worshipped? Was he the God of Abraham? No. How do i know? because there were so many Jews in those days leaving together in the Arabic Peninsulas serving and Worshopping YHWH while Abudullah worshipped his Allah in his way. He never forced anyone to worship Allah with him.

Allah was one of the 350gods Arabs worshipped.
Allah was a Moon god called Hubal. He had three daughters Allat, Mallat and Uzza. One of his daughters Allat the fourite was believed to have descended from a star, hence the Cresent Moon and the Star as Islamic symbol. And why they watch the moon before Ramadan.

If the Abrahamic God was the same wirh the Arabic Allah, why didn't they worship in the same Temples before Muhammed was born?

And, Guru Maharaji and his people don't serve a supreme being. They don't rely on any mesaage from any supreme being. They are New Agers, hence they believe that they themselves are gods. So, remove them.

Where was His source? Who gave him the message? Do you believe YHWH gave him those messages? Pls i need your answer here.


How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
Isaiah:14:12

For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
Isaiah:14:13

Beloved, you need to know your God so that you can be strong and do exploits.

When satan challenged God in that vers 13, that he also shall sit and be worshipped as God, who do you think he was going to get the worship from? Fellow Angels albeit fallen? No, Angels don't worship each other. He meant humans. If he was going to be worshipped, he must pretend to be God. He must make men believe he indeed is God, that's the only way he will be worshipped. And satan set up his own religion made it look like the religion of YHWH.

Guy. Open your eyes.

Muslims claim to be servants of God while Christians are legitimate children.

Are they? because they claim that doesn't make it so.

We really need to talk about this issue.

Muslims don't worahip the same God with the Jews.

U are talking to someone who believes that yahweh is also amadioha

Ronpet777:
Yes... Isaac is the son of the legal occupant of the house and Ishmael is d son of a slave.
One is heir to the throne, the other is an illegitimate child.

So?

Is there anywhere in my post i asked u who isaac ans ishmeal is? Is this another of ur trick to change the what we are discussing?

Ronpet777:
If Emmanuel disagrees with me He knws perfectly wot he is saying and he is wise. Y wud he agree he serves d same God with a man who claims his God told them to kill? But then, d problem is with d worshippers. Isaac and Ismael both came from Abraham and both serve d God of Abraham. D issue is that while Christians can hear from God through d Holy Spirit, the Muslims follow d dictates of Muhammed completely. He gives them instructions which he claims to hv heard from God, d same one Ismael served which is also our God. Many Christians won't agree that we serve d Same God because d instructions r completetly diff. Blame d channels not the source, but then ur purpose is to mock and all u will do is to pick Wot to criticize.
cc: obiZEAL, frank317,emmanystone

Enough of ur word games. U cannot change whats glaring with words.
What stopped the God of Abraham to give Mohammed the same Holy spirit he gave to Christians. How can they be worshiping the same God differently yet u think u are worshiping him so better that u want to share the good news to them. Are u better than Mohammed? Are u better than ishmeal? How can u have access to the holy spirit and ishmeal who started worshiping God before u does not know it was necessary to tell his followers about the holy spirit.
If the channel is the same, why is the source different? Why is the channel ready to blame the multitude that has been misled by the source and choses to do nothing about it.

Ronpet777:
U don't just point a finger and disappear. Explain Wot u mean.

My response to the post said it all... he does not need to explain anything to u again

vaxx:
The borrowed relligion should respect the tradition of the people. Being accomadative should not be translated to stupidity. ...... I blame ignorance and strict brainwashing for this.

My thoughts exactly.

The traditional religion is the root of our morality. It is who we are. The reason why there are atheist is because of foreign religions. The foreign religion made us rebels to who we are. Athests as rebellious to foreign claims thats made us strangers to ourselves.

PAGAN9JA:
do whatever you want in your home. dont cross paths with us. this is our land and we will show your way back to israel.

@vaxx what do u have to say

Mary.. and i will impregnate her without fxxking her

Ronpet777:
Hahahahahahahaha! I felt like rolling on d floor laffing after I read ur comment . Mhen, u guys I trained not to ever back down namata d points put forward to u. Well, since every comment leads to a new question from u, I will do well to rest my case for now. I hv answered u all one after d other but I see ur unbelief will never let u digest anything edible.
D father I mentioned there is an earthly father that is seen as different person to diff pple.
Even Muslims deny Shekau's claims but I bet u don't knw that. U r trained to just be negative and interrogative.
Good night Frank, let's hope I will hv ur strength tomorrow God willing.

i had to break it down because u were evading my questions.. besides some of ur replies are a contradiction to ur earlier replies.

like saying u worship the same God and saying they need good news.


well, shakau has followers doesnt he?

abeg good night jare