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Butterflyleo:
It is now you are seeing that the OP is about youthful age specifically while you were speaking about sex being sweet and good generally?

Your comments made me begin to reason along your lines and if your comment could lead my to think like a pervert, then it shows that you are perverted for making such statements to an adolescent that sex is good and sweet.

He he... my comment brought out the demon in u.

Amberon11:
When have Christians ever mentioned that sex was bad? Christian belief only states that sex is good and fine only within the confines of marriage. Post one Bible verse demonizing sex or get lost .

Yet ur God created unmarried people and gave them the urge to have sex even whem they are not married

Butterflyleo:
Yet the thread is about youthful age right?

Pervert!!!

Butterflyleo:
Ogbeni read my comments. My focus is on adolescents so when you answer and say sex is sweet as a response to my comment what does it imply?

See this one... u asked what is the truth... based on my response to the op when he said sex is bad...

And i told you the truth is sex is sweet and boost self esteem but teach them the consequences of this sweet thing... and ur perverted mind quickly read it as adolescent sex is good and sweet.

Gerrarahia. U need help, this thread shows how skewed up ur mind is.
Oga park will, u are not matured enough to even discuss adolescent sex

Butterflyleo:
The lie here is that sex is good and sweet for an adolescent which is something you said.

I said said is good and sweet... quote whers i said sex is good for adloescents.

I have asked u to stop being a pervert. Quote where i said that or forever remain a pervert. If u cannot quote me saying sex ia good for adolescents than i will conclude its ur perverted mind playing tricks on u and misreading all my points

Butterflyleo:
If the OP mentioned youthful age, did you not read the OP? If he mentioned fornication did he speak outside the concept of youthful age?

Being dumb is not an award winner you know.

Hence the need for sex education and not lies that sex is bad or that sex brings evil spirit

Butterflyleo:
Why are you just being dumb? The OP is talking about youthful age and why it is wrong to be engaged in sex at such a time and I spoke along his line and also said ADOLESCENT sex is bad. When did adolescents become adults since you are saying adult sex is good?

Do you not know that adolescent age is between 10 and 18? What is the legal age for adulthood in Nigeria?

I am speaking truth and you are here trying to deceive yourself.

This was why I said that since you claim adolescent sex is good, you may as well turn it into a sporting event as you cheer your adolescent child on from the side lines.

A child is listed in Nigeria as one from 18yrs old and below so how are they being told lies when we say sex is bad as an adolescent?

Are you well at all? You claim that adolescent sex is good and sweet and builds self esteem and so on but what does the Nigerian constitution say? I thought the atheist morality being subjective is linked to the law of the country where they reside and so far, you are breaking the law of Nigeria with your words.

Everyone can discuss sex education with their children but reasonable parents do not tell them that sex is good and sweet as you said you would do. Otherwise you are practically giving them the required tools to go ahead and find out.

Your parenthood needs scrutiny.

The op said youthful age and not from age 10 to 18.

He is also talking about fornication which is simply sex before marriage and not sex for a child between 10 and 18.

I remember mentioning why they should not have sex if they are not reresponsible enough to handle the outcome, i talked about 18 years being ideal because they can go to jail.

But it skipped u while u were busy thinking about orgis with kids.

Sex.education is the point here. And sex education does not tell a child between ten and 18 that sex is bad or sex bring in evil spirits. It tells a child all about sex and what they should know and the dos and donts.

Sex education is not telling a child to go around and have sex. Pls if at ur age u dont know what sex education is u must have issues. Just stop thinking about orgies, go and educate urself.

And when i said sex is sweet and boosts self esteem, i meant it... i never said u should tell a ten years old that. Pls dont go doing that.. i actually countered ur post that sex is bad. Sex is not bad its is sweet and boosr self esteem for humans generally, married or not.

Again it is important that these kids know about sex, the dos and donts, the facts, and possible outcome basically for them to be aware and mindful of their action incase they are faced with the reality and pressure of having even at any age. The knowledge of what they know can make them avoid it because they dont feel responsible enough or become carful when doint it for the daring ones. Like i said u cannot control what they do in secret but knowledge could guide tyem better.

Read my post with an open mind and stop inserting ur perversion in every line u read.

Butterflyleo:
My post was gotten from your comments. Since nothing is wrong with adolescent sex to you as an atheist why don't we just turn it into a sporting event.

What are the lies being told adolescents?

So since nothing is wrong with adult sex u guys as Christians have turned it into sporting event?
The dumb things u say when u want to argue for the sake of arguement.

I have explained to u that because this kids have the tendency of secretly having sex no matter what u tell them, its best u teach them sex education and let them know the consequence of the action.

U have said.nothing to counter this yet u bring in orgies adults do in ur house because u accept adult sex.

I am not interested in the sick shit u are into... tell me why teenagers shouldnt be thought sex education rather they should be lied to and told sex is bad.

Repeat the orgy thing again if u wanna tell me u have nothing to say.

Butterflyleo:
So why does the orgy talk disgust you despite the orgy in focus being an adolescent sexual orgy when you said adolescent sex is good and sweet, builds self esteem, not bad and is not always deadly?

So is it then wrong to group adolescent sex under sports?

You can't stop thought but YOU CAN STOP ACTION.

Thoughts can always be changed but action cannot be undone

Read the post u quoted again and respond to it.

No one is discussing orgy with u. Thats not what this topic is about..

Respond to this..

dont lie to adolescents. Have sex talk with them, talk to them about responsibility and consequences. Let them know the dos and donts. .

The fact is u actually cannot stop adolescents from thinking and indulging in sexual acts... u can actually reduce the nagative consequences by making them understand the cinsequence of their action.

Butterflyleo:
How am I not to classify adolescent sex under sports section with the glowing appraisal you gave it?

So why not break down the walls and allow them have orgies then after all you see sex as everyone sees sports .

Oga keep ur mind in check... thats all i can tell u.

When someone tells u.. dont lie to adolescents. Have sex talk with them, talk to them about responsibility and consequences. Let them know the dos and donts. ..... dont go thinking about orgies with them. Are u such a pervert?

The fact is u actually cannot stop adolescents from thinking and indulging in sexual acts... u can actually reduce the nagative consequences by making them understand the cinsequence of their action.

I am not discussing the orgy thing with u... it has nothing to do with our discission sicko.

I stilll dont know how and why orgies came into the picture... whats wrong with this guy

Butterflyleo:
My focus as is the OP is on YOUTHFUL (ADOLESCENT) SEX and not just sex in general.

Stick with the topic. My points remain based on this and yours show irrationality and failed parenthood since its all about sex in general and not even holding any limit to age or adolescence.

Ehe... how does me saying that u shouldnt lie to adolecsents, tell them the consequences allow them to make their choice based on what u told them... how does that translate into bringing them in for orgies? Are u okay?

Butterflyleo:
My mind is conceiving such because your comment says adolescent sex is GOOD AND SWEET. it also says ADOLESCENT SEX IS NOT ALWAYS DEADLY. it also says ADOLESCENT SEX BUILDS SELF ESTEEM. It also says ADOLESCENT SEX ISNT BAD.

Lol.. i said sex is sweet. Which one is adolescent sex again.
Sex is sweet, be it with adolescent or middle age.
Sex builds self esteem and it is nt bad for humans even alolescents.
Adolescents have a way of misusing things and misunderstanding it hence the need dor guidiance. Adults need to talk to them and let them know the consequence of their actions.

So I then said, based on this glowing appraisal of adolescent sex , why not invite your adolescent child to have orgies right in front of you be it male or female?

No, based on my statement above u decided to go haywire. U decided to let ur sick mind to run crazy hence i asked u... so because sex is good for married adults u should invite them to have orgies in front of u?
Btw what has orgies even got to do with what we are saying?

After all this is the same thing as sports or football which you cheer on. Does sports build self esteem? YES
Is sports bad? NO
Is sports good and sweet? YES
Is sports always deadly? NO

So why not just group adolescent sex under the sports category right?

Stop urself now!!! I am not discussing orgies with u... i thought u are a Christian maaan!!! Jesus will not even think orgies... damn.

Butterflyleo:
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Is having sex as an adolescent bad to you? No
Does it necessarily kills? No
Does it grow self esteem? Yes
Is it sweet and good as an adolescent? Yes

Ok

Those are your comments. Based on this, what moral wrong would it then do for you to invite your adolescent son or daughter to engage in orgies right in your presence while you encourage them with practical tips for better value after all same things you listed about applies to sports or football and you cheer that on so well, so why would this be any different?

Do u think two married adult should have sex?
Does this mean the parents of a married adults should invite their married matured children to engage in orgies right in their presence while they encourage them with practical tips?
If ur answer in the above is yes then i will do the same with my adolescent kids.
But if its no.. then i wonder what ur mind is concieving such... u are sick bro.

I repeat, thoughts can always be replaced with anything else but actions can never be undone!

Thats why u should advise them rightly and not lie to then that sex is bad

peacesamuel94:
Proactive wise people learn from the mistakes of others, Reactive foolish people wait till they experience things for themselves. Unfortunately
There are "mistakes" that people do not recover from, let alone to learn from.

Yet u forget there are a lot of "others" who have sex without std or pregnancy...

Yes i agree that wise people learn the mistakes of others... they can learn that a pregnant girl did not use protection and decide to use protection to satisfy their raging urge.

Butterflyleo:
You were irresponsible.

Awww... am a baaad boy

Butterflyleo:
I am not specifically asking about the truth per sex but truth generally. What is truth?

I really dont know what u want... but truth is saying what is.

I.e... if something is green u say its green when ask and not saying its yellow.

Fallacy of hasty generalisation. Not all adolescent children have a high sex drive. Sex indeed is bad and ADOLESCENTS who have no self responsibility regarding the bigger issues and deeper things of life such as unwanted pregnancies, prevalence of STDs and so on. So if sex isn't so bad why do people sneak around to partake in it? Perhaps we should be having it done on the streets openly. The fact remains that adolescents have no business engaging in sex outside marriage. Sex remains in a place of responsibility and not in a place of partial or no responsibility.

Stick to one... is sex bad? Or is sex bad for irresponsible adolescents?
Sex is bad for irresponsible people, adolescents or not.
Wait so because of unwanted pregnancy, or std, sex is bad?
People hide to have sex because of privacy? So because a husband and a wife hide to have sex that means sex is bad? So because people dont have sex in the street that means its bad?
Anyone at the 18 and above is free to have sex. 18 because its assume they can take responsiblity for their action, they can go to jail.
If ur God didnt want adolescents to have sex, why give them sexual urge when creating them.

No adolescent is responsible enough for such consequences when acted outside marriage. Go and ask any young lady who has a child outside wedlock about how she feels, she would surely tell you that she wishes she could turn back the hands of time but its too late for that. She cuts back her life, her desires, her dreams all because she could not keep her legs closed and this goes for the guys too. Do you even know how many people adolescent sex has ruined? How many futures have been dashed?

Having child out of wedlock is the result of unprotected sex. A lot of young unmarried people have sex without getting pregnant. Not all sex lead to pregnancy.
A society where sex has ruined so many adolescents is a society where parents didnt train their children to know what responsiblity is. Reponsibily is not avoidance, its knowing the right thing to do.

This is not the truth I seek. If you know that sex can cause unwanted pregnancies or deadly diceases why then do you want your adolescent child to gamble with it? This shows you to be a totally irresponsible father if you would not outrightly ban adolescent sex for your kid but encourage it in the name of telling them the truth so they can make their own irresponsible adolescent decisions despite you being an adult and a father to them. You are a failed parent.

The fact is that sexual urge is inborn. I was once a youth remember.
What exactly do u want to tell ur adolescent child inorder for them to avoid sex?
Well, u can either lie to him that sex is bad so that he learns something different and goes under ground experimenting.
Or u tell him the consequense and train him to be responsible enough to know when to have sex or not decide to have it or not. Let it be his choice. That way, u will reduce the incidence of std and unwanted preg.

Why not cut to the chase. Why not simply encourage your adolescent child to have sex right in your presence and with whoever she or he feels like, after all it is healthy, it boosts self esteem, it is not bad, it wouldn't necessarily kill, it is good and sweet.

I know u are crazy... pretend to be normal for once.
This is not the market square. Sometimes i am glad u are a Christian (even as a christian ur thought run too wide) i really wonder how mentally unstable u would have been if not for "christ"
U seem not to have any self control

Why not ask them to have an orgy since there is nothing wrong or bad about adolescent sex. I am sure as a father you would be really proud watching your kid doing something that boosts his self esteem and that is good and sweet and that isn't bad and cannot necessarily kill, after all it wouldn't be bad for you to be in the same room cheering him on and even teaching him or her the various techniques to apply so as to make it sweeter or that can boost their self esteem even more right?

Calm down... dont let ur self run into the street yet.
Take a breath... hmmmmm ok.

I am actually aware of many adolecents who have very good home training but because their parent just told them to avoid sex without having in mind that these thoughts actually occur in their mind every now and then, these youths still indulge in sex activities and pretend they dont in front of their parents. Trust me, these are the ones who get pregnant and stds.

The reason why in law ignorance is not an excuse is because there is an already existing information source out there and one of such an information source is a parent. What parents know and have experienced which are seen as bad, they are expected to guide their children in such a manner as to avoid such but here you are being a very terrible atheist father.

And guiding to u is telling them sex is bad? Lol

Wrong again. The mistake of an ignorant child is considered less than that of a knowledgeable child. You cannot know something is bad and then deliberately do it and expect to be let off the hook. The one who does not know it is bad and does it is the one who is normally let off the hook. This kind atheist mentality you have is deadly.

Oga, the mistake of an ignorant child is worst based on outcome and not based on consideration. An ignorant child will fall into a bigger pit than a knowledgeable one.

And the fact that a child is knowledgeable does not mean he knows everything.
Everyone can make mistake.

Sex does kill and that is not a lie. Thoughts can always be replaced by something else but actions cannot be undone.

Did ur parents die after having sex to concieve u?

Lmao @ sexual disorders. When a child wishes to have a healthy sexual life devoid of scrutiny he should wait to have it with an equally responsible and mature spouse who has accented to this and not what you are advocating for. Like I said, thoughts can always be replaced with something else but actions cannot be undone.

It depends on the child and his libido and his ability to control it.
But remember... there is a reason why humans have sexual urges at a teenage age. Its really not for them to inhibit the urge... its for them to understand themselves. If they have sex and not get pregnant or std... they often turn out to be better lovers and parents like me.

CuteMadridista:
Thinking about sex is not normal, evil spirits are responsible for sex thoughts. Jesus never thought about sex and no true Christian should think about such an evil thing

Lol...jesus lived 30 years without having sex, not even an erection... is that one normal?

Adasun:
quote those things da op said dat was a lie

To start with..

- fornication brings evil spirit into ur life
- fornication is disobedience
- fornication brings death
- fornication brings sickness
- fornication brings unwanted pregnancies
- youths should not think of sex (this is impossible)

All these are lies

I started having sex at 18... i didnt die, i was not disobeying anyone, i didnt pregnant any one, i never fell sick, i always thought of sex as a youth.

Why? Because i was a reaponsible child.

Butterflyleo:
What is the truth?

Does an atheist hold any definition for their subjective truth? You are an atheist so tell me what is truth?

So everyone should be allowed to make mistakes so they would learn from it right? What about MISTAKENLY killing someone, should they be allowed to make that mistake too?

How about DELIBERATELY aborting a baby which could have been avoided through abstinence? Should such a MISTAKE Be encouraged?

Oh and also this one, what about deliberately doing drugs, should SUCH MISTAKES be allowed as well so they would learn from them?

I need answers.

The truth is what sex actually is.

An adolescent child usually has high libido and many questions. Lies such as "sex is bad" can turn them to problematic youths. It could cause secret over indulgece or acute avoidance.

The truth is why they should not have sex if they dont feel reponsible enough to handle the out come.

The truth is that sex might result in pregnancy, desease or heart break of either party involved

The truth is that u should understand urself better and knowing what u want before indulgin

The truth is that sex is good and sweet but comes with its responsibilities

The truth is that sex is not bad and does not necessarily kill if u can take care of urself.

The truth is that if u are careful enough, use protection and boyh love each other sex can be healthy and can boost self esteem.

Oga people make mistakes weather u allow them or not. Its better youths are well informed than to be lied to therefore being ignorant.

The mistake of an ignorant child is worst than the mistake of a knowledgeable child. Mistakes are something u cannot avoid... just inform them with the facts and let them be. Lying to them that sex kills is wrong.

I ddnt talk about abortion... so u think lying to a child that sex kills will make him avoid pregnancy? U think lying to a child will make him stop thinking of sex?

No... sex will be thought of, weather u lie of not... how ever ur lies can turn the child to have sexual disorders.

Adasun:
not when da mistake may creat an irreversible consequence(s)

Well... its still better than lying to them ansd telling them sex is bad... it might turn them to have abnormal sexual behaviours. If u train them well, u will not have to lie to them

The thought of sex is an involuntary action that occurs in a normal adolescent.

Teach them to be responsible
Teach them the consequence of sex
Teach them it is a responsiblity
Teach them to do it only when they are ready

Dont teach them that sex is bad
Dont tell them it kills
Dont misinform them

Tell them the truth, guide them but let them make their own decision and face the outcome... everyone should be allowed to make mistakes and learn from it

CuteMadridista:
It seems the god that answered by fire now rely on humans to fight for him these days. Christians say their god is everywhere and all powerful yet its humans that speak, get angry, fight for and fell hurt on behalf of this god. its almost as if this god resides only in their head and they're actually the god they claim to be serving

This is where their brain goes dead. Someone claims to worship a powerful, all knowing, all seeing, omini everything creator, yet everything he does concerning this creator signifies that either this creator is weak or does not exist.

Imagin praying without ceasing, fasting, vigil, begging for a mighty loving powerful creator do u a small human favour. And when he does not answer they go ahead and make excuse for him.

Imagin figthing for a powerful God, getting angry for him and definding him on his behalf. He talks nothing, does nothing and shows not himself. Yet this same folks will ask u for prove that he does not exist.

What stops God from doing a minute thing to show the boy, his loving creation, and the world, that he is missing the point.

I really cannot fight and kill myself for my village warrior king who is ten times stronger than me.

Trust holy christians to use this opportinity to vent their long caged anger.

It is okay to insult another for Jesus. Same jesus who said turn the other chick.

Reminds me of muslims that beheaded that woman in kano for calling their allah fake.

Ogboni power... powerless power. Christians feel they have the right to abuse other religion. You call people fools for saying God does not exists and get angry when the same God is called a fool.

See the amount of hatred vented onnthe boy for insulting a jewish man who died a long time ago.

I keep on saying it... if jesus had not hinted love ur neigbour or forgiveness, christians would have been the worst suicide bombers

CuteMadridista:
almost ALL these quotes are made-up Bullsheet

Can u see how they rejoice in the death of an atheist?

Ask them why yaweh turned blind eye at the church building that fell on his worshipers in akwaibom, that butterflybighead will start calling u insensitive

Emmanystone:
Hahahahahahahahaha. You can lie to comfort your fellow suidal lot, but you can't lie to yourself.
Jesus says 'out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks'. We know the state of your mind from yoir utterances, and your speech in thia forum shows depth of your holoness and the abbys inside of you.

Think what u like, u know nothing about me.
Of course i cannot lie to myself, glad u know that.
I am not a holy man and ur jesus was killed a long time ago.
Yes from my utterances, i am a no nonsense person... i really dont have time to give ur imaginary God a chance in my life.

This is why i like the Whiteman, he says things as they are. They are not ashamed to say they are miserable, sad and suicidal. But, you whose state is worst then theirs (economically and otherwise) will rather lie and pretend you are good until your moniker renains redundant as a result of the dive you'd take into the lagoon.

Awwww.... all i see here is the defense mechanism called projection? U really wish i pretend dont u? Afterall, how in the world can someone not give a fxck about ur sky daddy, not do vigil, not even pray, not go to church, not give tithe, no fast and still feel good about himself? Looool... i feel u sis... such a person must be a God of his own and u cannot imagine such a person to exist... well, thanks for the compliment

Good one, shouldnt this be in the front page?

If na bbn now una go rush put for front page

Emmanystone:
And this your imaginary being manages to comfort me in my low points. Answers my prayers, gives me joy which makes me calm in the face the most tumultuous situations.

He speaks to me and gives me clear directions when i am confused. He gives me hope and peace.

Something you so lack that all you resort to is suicide.

Just take a trip to reddit and see what the sincere and real atheists say about themselves.

You are not only miserable, sad, depressed, you are suicidal. Putting a bold face here doesn't help you.

If a believe in imaginary being can comfort u, hoe muxh more a believe in urself.

If thinking i am miserable makes u feel good then have fun thinking so.

I dont doubt i get sad sometimes when i lost a loved one or not feeling well. But i have learnt to put the past behind me and move on. I so much believe in me that i encourage myself whenever i am down. I also have friends and loved ones around me in time of pain... maginary friends are what they are... Imaginary. Whenever i lose faith in myself... i might try out ur imaginary friend... but for now i am too strong to need him.

Emmanystone:
What is the rubish? Atheists are known for misery. They are depressed and contemplate suicide more rather than try to get out of their depressed state.

Go to reddit and read. Even you are very miserable and sad, and i know you are thinking of killing yourself, you just pretending here.

Is this what u tell urself to make u feel good in dwelling in childish magical tales?

Let me list ur life for u as a beliver...

- u believe in a being u have never seen in ur life
- u worship the being, i mean, spend all ur life in ur own imagination
- u stay awake at night to talk to ur strong imagination
- u hustle in life, struggle to make a living but blame all ur success on ur imaginary being
- u wait all ur life for help from ur imaginary saviour, yet life passess away like every other
- u do vigil for ur imaginary friend, yet he does not contact u
- u make him up in ur head and u start to see things and u are happy
- u fast for the imagination in ur head and deny urself of food hoping he will come and help yet the struggele continues
- u start to worship ur fellow man because he somehow claims to be a representation of ur imaginary friend
- u not only worship him, u give him money and ur mind tells u that the person who recieves it is ur imaginary friend
- u live a life of fear, hoping not to fail ur imaginary friend, otherwise he will burn u after u die.
- u hope when u die ur imaginary friend will put u in a house of gold yet u dont want to die despite knowing that heaven waits for u.


Atheists call all these bullsheet and u thing we are depressed? Oga... wake up from ur sleep and smell the coffee

Even when u try to respect their belief they must definitely push u to the wall to give it to them hard.

Religions that believe in personal God cannot help but see u as an enemy once u dont accept with their belief.

They would either call u a fool and blame it on the bible for actually insulting u. Or they would start condemining u to hell.

I had a neigbour who told me that i will suffer in life for not beliving in his bullsheet. he maintained that people will hate me and i will not find favour. The bad news was that he felt he didnt insult me.

I marked him and gave him hell throughout my stay there. I exposed the foolishness of his believe, his own hypocrisy and made sure he never talked about is faith around me througout my stay there.

I really do not have time for trash. Humans will step on u if u give them the opportunity.

These days.. i am not interested in respecting anyones belief. If u tell me trash i will scream it to ur ear that ur believe is trash and nonsensical.

I think i am the only guy i know who make religious people around me look stupid.

The real insult is when one who believes in a nonsensical believe by faith wants you to join him by all means in his stupidity.

kuntash:
On a Monday Morning ,,

this is what comes to Front Page...

clap for yourselves - @Moderators ..

See ur life... on a Monday morning, u saw BBnaija link and u quickly click on it. U must b jobless this morning.

Your type could be gay but will go around make hate statements about gays. U will even go to a gay club to diss them

what is the meaning of u have a calling? become a pastor in the church u are attending? must u start your own church? we already have enough church business with nothin to show for it. what effect will a new church have for Nigeria? why is God calling everybody yet no significant effect on the life of the people?
your wife knows u are fake and does not want u to join the league of scammers we already have in nigeria