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gohf:
you want to explain for me what I wrote that you don't understand? You still don't even understand the post you just read and quoted

Sand2022:
I don't know why you quoted me. I didn't say there is no freewill if God foresees what one will do before he is created.

gohf:
you don't even understand what you read

RepoMan007:
He isnt stealing now. But what is student loan for again?

gohf:
You mean Exod.15.3 The LORD is a warrior; the LORD is his name.
or is it
Isa.42.13 The LORD will march out LIKE a mighty man, LIKE a warrior he will stir up his zeal; with a shout he will raise the battle cry and will triumph over his enemies.

Hmmm, does it even make sense or use to respond to you with the truth? Since you believe you are right in your own eyes continue on your way

Boomark:
No. You shut me with your lies.

DeepSight and LordReed are true about you.

Even 5 year old kids understand this english.

Show me at least one scripture that called God omniscient and what it means.


In this place

https://www.nairaland.com/8456831/why-jesus-definitely-god/51#136260947

See the remaining part of this post in the screenshot.

FreeIgboho:
When you were arguing in circles with Gabrielshow24 about freewill, and losing the argument to be honest, am I not the one that ended the argument by simply pointing out that everything boils down to the brain which you neither chose nor programmed and there's nothing you can use to override the brain except the brain itself, processes of which you don't control?

Can a 5-year-old do that??

Who indirectly convinced everyone here there's no such thing as freewill because decisions are always based on past things you neither chose nor control - people like gohf, tctrills, Dtruthspeaker, Everyday247, Janosky, FxMasterz, Image123, Ruke1990, sonmvayina, MeetDx, Sand2022, who were all gong-ho about freewill before.
Who shut Boomark with facts when he tried to say the Bible never said God is omniscient?

DeepSight:
What does it matter if there is no such thing as freewill.

Gabrielshow24:
Why are you sulking? When you followed the reasoning of a nestorian—This is your Endpoint. Like I said earlier, you both are a perfect fit for yourselves. This make or break relationship is really comedic 😂.

I didn't have time to read whatever you guys wrote up there, so I don't know who was right or not and it's certainly not my concern. My concern, is for you to see things from God's way. In your bid, to pursue your vapid logic, you ended up negating your own faith. While I appreciate the skeptical stance, but you didn't portray God in a good light. You threw away your christian background for a morsel of bread, for an unholy union with the 'hybrid guy'.

You've also made some rather questionable assertions, but I will set that aside for now. The purpose of this engagement is for you to see things from God's perspective—by reading the Bible in its entirety, not just through the limited lens of forme fruste ablepsia.

DeepSight:
So, firstly, I know what you have time to read? Secondly I must quote you directly when openly speaking on this same open public thread, even when addressing another person?

U must be banananananananananas!

DeepSight:
My brother LordReed, abeg chee chumchin.

I am now advised that you are corrupting my morals!

Honestwithme:
There is gamble alert you can search them on Google..They are always there to help.

francis00:
Wow that’s really so nice of him to trace his root back to africa

DeepSight:
In front of him we pretend to be his friends. And lo and behold, on the same thread, on a public platform, we are saying different things behind his back. This one pass me I swear.

LordReed:
I overestimated. Now you sound like a whiny 4 year old. LMAO!

kingmeme:
As a guy what will be Ur response to this message from a girl ?

RollinTNDA:
Imagine chasing only one fish in the ocean.

When they are 3.7 billion girls in this world
Make I go dey chase 1 out of 3 billion?

That is not simping. It's clearly MADNESS

LordReed:
It's like speaking to 5 year old bent on being ridiculous but with none of the charm. LoLz.

DeepSight:
Gbam! You get it. Someone else on this thread was doing something similar and I subtly had to try to find out his age - because I thought - this cannot be an adult?

LordReed:
The Nicean Council was centuries later than the time of Jesus.

LordReed:
I gave statements that are definitive facts while you are giving me "traditions" that have been shown to be false or at the very least unknown. You have no argument.

DeepSight:
Do you agree that Muhammad flying on a winged horse to Jerusalem is history?

DeepSight:
History records what he said he saw as his vision. Same way it will record if you say you had a dream last time which led you to victory.
History will not, and historians cannot affirm the connection between your dream and your victory because it cannot be affirmed.

History is actually a discipline, an academic discipline in the sense we mean here. We refer to what a qualified Historian will put down, and not the fantasies and superstitions of anyone.

Pick up a proper encyclopedia, you can never see it recorded that Constantine won by virtue of a vision. They will state what he mentioned, that he said he saw a vision and asked his men to put the Chi-Ro on their shields, they will state the details of the battle. Nowhere will it be said as a historical fact that he won by a vision. And thats simply because no one knows that. He could have been saying what he said for any reason including to encourage his men.

I hope you understand that if you pursue this path of insisting that everything in scripture is history, you must surely accept that it is also history that Muhamad flew to Jerusalem on a winged horse. Do you accept that as history?

LordReed:
Please I have no time for obtuseness today. Continue that with DeepSight, he has the capacity I don't.

LordReed:
When you are presenting information that is clearly wrong your subjectivity won't save it.

LordReed:
Then why did you list them in response to me?

Whatever you say, by trying to introduce uncertainty in any form you destroy your own argument.

LordReed:
You really are. I have no patience for deliberately obtuse people.

Easyincome24:
Why do some of the lecturers pride in failure of the students?

Now it's 12 years, does it matter in the lives of those who failed?

RealLordZeus:
With that instructions..kiss A and B goodbye
I remember one sadist lecturer back then..
Made us come to class by 7:00 am for an STB mid semester test
And we even met the man in class at that time.
Just one question but front and back.
One hour duration, phone and textbooks are allowed

And the whole class still fail..
Turns out the answer is "Protozoa characteristics"

Dr Adeoti, 12 years after, the trauma still persist

gohf:
Okay so I take it that you are saying that free will is the thinking process before a decision is made, meaning the person choose to do so. Now based on your earlier analogy where you pointed out constraints to a person's thinking process thereby predetermining their decisions, wherein you asked how or where does freewill fit into that analogy, right?!

Going with this two basis, let me answer this question of "if Adam could override his brain's decision to eat the fruit"

Simple answer, Yes, even if you think to do something wrong we usually decide against it (maybe because of what someone else said) or go along with it (because of our own desires). And the reason Adam could have override his own thoughts would have been if he paid attention to what God said and believed it to be true, God told him the consequences of eating that fruit giving Adam the choice not to eat it.

The moment a choice becomes available a person is given "the freedom" to choose

And so I agree with you when you call "it" the reservoir of free will, because only God can give us an alternate option or choice. Only God is our storage of freedom that liberates us from our limitations.

God's word creates opportunities and chances that are beyond our abilities and thought process. Peter could never have thought to walk on water all through his years as a fisherman but one day he saw an opportunity because he saw the word of God manifesting and that word, Jesus Christ gave him the opportunity to make a choice and walk on water, remove that encounter and Peter would never think nor choose to walk on water.

LordReed:
The same way you said things you have no way of knowing for sure which again destroys anything you are saying.

Either there is a way to know and we can verify or there isn't. Either way your argument is destroyed.

gohf:
Be yet patient with me perhaps we may gain understanding from God

Isaiah 53 the arm of YHVH, the servant of God who grew up in His presence, rejected and despised of men, A MAN of sorrows whom they thought was punished by God but was carried our weaknesses and crushed for our sins, for YHVH put our sins upon him. God's righteous servant will justify many and God will honor him.

Isaiah called him A MAN and GOD'S SERVANT consistent with what was revealed by Jesus and the apostles.

Now Psalm 22 is a prayer of a man who because of being despised sees himself less than a man, even as a worm.

You can see I have told you the truth, and neither of these chapters you mentioned support your earlier claim.


2. Jesus had a mother and was born, because from the beginning God said so even to when Jesus was to be conceived. It is because you believe Jesus to be a god that you feel conflicted about him having a mother. God said, the seed of the woman, Isaiah prophecies and the Virgin shall have a child, Gabriel appeared and told Mary, the Holy Spirit and God's power will come upon you and you shall conceived without the aid of a man. Jesus is the son of God, the manifestation of God's word. For God spoke and it was and is and will be.

4. They understood what Jesus meant, as the Hebrews took seeing God's messengers as seeing God, Jacob said he had seen the face of God but in actuality he saw an angel, Abraham spoke to God but in reality it was an angel. None of them had seen God but they said they had, because they saw his representatives.

Please like James said ask God for wisdom, like Jesus said ask for the Holy Spirit who teaches us, and when you have done this, read the writings of scripture and gospel even to the "original" copies

Heb.1.6 And then, when he presented his honored Son to the world, God said, "Let all the angels of God worship him."