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Bidam: Matthew 14:33 Then those who were in the boat came and worshiped Him, saying, “Truly You are the Son of God.” Why? Because the Son of God is God who can receive worship, He is God in the flesh.
This is your interpretation. Jesus never said "I am God in the flesh" You are the one saying that.
Matthew 12:50 "For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother."


Jesus said, “that all should honor the Son just as they honor the Father. He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him” (John 5:23) We this example all through the Scripture.
Yes, but why don't you quote: John 8:28 "Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things."
John 12:49-50 "For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak. And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak."

What else do you need? The pastors cannot get around this one. So they have to invent the trinity.


Matthew 15:25: “Then she worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me.”

“When Jesus walked on the water and made the wind and waves cease, they worshipped Him, saying, truly thou art the Son of God.” (Matthew 14:33). Notice the equating of being the Son of God elicits their worship

Did not also "Peter walk on water? Is Peter the Father?
John 14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father."

If they said Jesus is the son of God, why are you defending him being God?
I don't understand?

shdemidemi: So who is the father in that context?

1 John 5:7-8

King James Version (KJV)

7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.

ijawkid: Ona dey see the nonsense wey this man dey write??..........

Did Christ know when the end would come or did he LIE when he said he didn't know but only the Father??..........

Why can't you guys believe Christ??...........

Why.........

Like I said the one GOD I know is the Father and it is obvious that he is.........

Bidam: @_Guiriga from the righteousness perspective i tend to agree more with shdemidemi. Paul would not have boasted about his righteousness if he had confidence in his ability.#If someone else thinks they have reasons to put confidence in the flesh, I have more: 5 circumcised on the eighth day, of the people of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, a Hebrew of Hebrews; in regard to the law, a Pharisee; 6 as for zeal, persecuting the church; as for righteousness based on the law, faultless.#

shdemidemi: There is nothing wrong in getting married bro. God supports marriage, in fact Christ is married to the church.

shdemidemi: The Jews are not people who do the will of the father. The Jews(descendants of Abraham) are as guilty as the gentile.

shdemidemi: I get what you are saying, but the bible makes it clear that being a good man or doing unto others as you will like them to do unto you does not qualify you as just and right before God. What makes you right before God is believing in the gospel of Christ, all the good manners can be built on the platform of the faith. The bible says 'the just/righteous shall live by faith'.
But this is Jesus teaching. As a matter of fact, this is the Law and the prophets. Are you going to teach different from the master? If you believe in the Gospel of Chris then you will believe and do what he said: Which is do unto others as you will like them to do unto you...Having a clean heart will not make you right before God?
Love thy neighbor as thyself....will not make you right before God?
Then why would Jesus teach these things my brother. Remember: He says what the father has told him to say.


You and I did not become sinners because of the evil things we do, we became sinners because one man that we all came from sinned thus every man that comes after him carries the gene of the first man. By this any innocent child coming to the world carries the same 'DNA' of the first man Adam. That is why you do not need to teach your child how to lie or how to rebel, it all came with them as a result of the sin of the first man imputed in every one.
I get that. So if that is the case then my sinning ways are not my own fault. It's "in my DNA" like the color of my hair and so forth. Can an Ethiopian change his color? The answer to that is no. So I cannot change my sinning ways then? Look, sin is one thing, mortality is another. I think your church is teaching original sin. Which if you think it through, does not add up. They are mistaking with mortality. I ask you my friend, a man that lived 6,000 years ago is the reason for your sinning ways?

Christ has come to impute righteousness in all man in the same manner, As soon as you believe, you are dead to the sins you inherited, it is left for you to now leave a sanctified life like Christ which can only be possible by the gradual renewal of your mind through truth and wisdom of God's word.
That is standard Christian teaching to keep folks in fear of God. I did not inherit sin. Mortality, yes. Christ came to give life and life everlasting. I'm in agreement with the rest of the comment.

Mr anony: What Jews where you thinking of when you brought up Romans 1:16?

SeekingGod: Thanks a lot, i wl keep in mind what you have said

Mr anony: I say Amen to that. The gospel came to the Jews first after all. Following in line after the Jews doesn't make our salvation any less authentic. Read Colossians 3:11

shdemidemi: what you are talking about are morals. Morals don't make you righteous or good before God now, the bible says 'all our righteousness/morals are like filthy rags before God' what makes you righteous is believing the gospel of Jesus Christ. The power in the gospel is what changes and renews your mind, intuition and perspective to mirror that of God.

shdemidemi: What church age are you talking about?
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Job was definitely a righteous man at that time, what made Job righteous at his time does not make you and I righteous now because the scripture is not stagnant but it is a progressive revelation.

During Christ's earthly ministry, the people were righteous by believing Christ is the son of God. The church age started after Christ died and resurrected, at this time the message moved from believing Christ is the son of God to believing the death and resurrection of Christ.

shdemidemi: No, he is not. If you are for him you are saved. So everyone has a chance in this church age to be just before him.

Mr anony: God does not show favouritism

shdemidemi: The bible qualifies all man has bad, no man is good, we are all sinners. We have only one chance of getting to him which is through Jesus Christ.

Mr anony: 1Tim 2:15. Read it in context

Mr anony: No where in the bible does it say that only a Jew can have a pure heart

Mr anony: Rom 2:11 For God does not show favouritism.

Rom 2:12 All who sin apart from the law will also perish apart from the law, and all who sin under the law will be judged by the law.

Rom 2:13 For it is not those who hear the law who are righteous in God's sight, but it is those who obey the law who will be declared righteous.

Rom 2:14 (Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law,

Rom 2:15 since they show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts now accusing, now even defending them.)

Rom 2:16 This will take place on the day when God will judge men's secrets through Jesus Christ, as my gospel declares.

shdemidemi: You are the one saying that, the scripture says something different

Itsfacts: which one are you?

Mr anony: Rom 2:11 For God does not show favouritism.
I agree.
What about this? 1 Timothy 2:15


Rom 2:12 All who sin apart from the law will also perish apart from the law, and all who sin under the law will be judged by the law.

Rom 2:13 For it is not those who hear the law who are righteous in God's sight, but it is those who obey the law who will be declared righteous.

Rom 2:14 (Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law,

Rom 2:15 since they show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts now accusing, now even defending them.)

Rom 2:16 This will take place on the day when God will judge men's secrets through Jesus Christ, as my gospel declares.

shdemidemi: You are the one saying that, the scripture says something different

shdemidemi: Anyone that was not Jew before Christ was condemned with a few exception.

shdemidemi: I am with you with that statement.

frosbel: Jesus died to save us from sin and it's consequences.


Now answer mine and support with scripture ( might not reply tonight as I am off to bed, so take your time )

shdemidemi: You said it all, after man fell in to sin we became an enemy of God and a property of the devil, any man that was ever born after Adam carried the sin nature...2000 years later,He decides to elect one man whom he showed favour and He promised that man that him and his descendants will be His own people and through the seed of that one man the rest of the world shall be saved. After another 2000 years the saviour came, He paid the devil a price for our salvation with his life for the world to be reconciled back to God but with a caveat. You must believe he died and resurrected for you to be saved.


The man that got the promise was Abraham , his descendant are the Israelites and any one who believes is a saint.

shdemidemi: Apostle Paul would never say that fam

MostHigh: I and the brother have too much similarity in our convictions so I dont hate nobody for making that assumption.

Though they are mistaken.

Also my love for sizzla knows no bounds.

Which track yuh a fi sing de other day for obadiah?

shdemidemi: My brother, read your old testament properly to know God knows his people and he will destroy anyone or nation for his people.
Man became like God, yes. Man retained the image of God but lost the likeness/character of God. The spiritual limk between God and man broke at that point.
educate me..where did Paul thank God he wasn't born a gentile?

shdemidemi: My brother, read your old testament properly to know God knows his people and he will destroy anyone or nation for his people.
Man became like God, yes. Man retained the image of God but lost the likeness/character of God. The spiritual limk between God and man broke at that point.
educate me..where did Paul thank God he wasn't born a gentile?

shdemidemi: what is your interpretation?