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Christianity EtcRe: What Was The Forbidden Fruit? by FromGuiriga(m): 2:12am On May 28, 2013
BraveGuy: Don't try to change the Thread's topic: What Was The Forbidden Fruit?

The Bible is clear that it was a fruit from the TREE of knowledge (of good and evil).

The best argument or treatise written in the object, IMO, is that one I read from Forbidden Fruit .... the fruit was a spoken knowledge.
There was no forbidden fruit. Its a symbol for the works of the flesh. That is why Jesus asked his followers to bear fruit. The fruit of the Spirit (you know what they are). What is forbidden is the works of the flesh (you know what they are). Works of the flesh, bad fruit. Works of the spirit, good fruit.
Hence, you shall now them by their fruit....

Give thanks for the reasoning still...
Christianity EtcRe: What Was The Forbidden Fruit? by FromGuiriga(m): 1:53am On May 28, 2013
BraveGuy: Morning Star is DIFFERENT from Bright and Morning Star.

Saying they are the same is akin to saying = A god is the same as The God.

A God is NOT the same as The God.
I agree, that is what people have been saying about John 1:1
Christianity EtcRe: What Was The Forbidden Fruit? by FromGuiriga(m): 1:41am On May 28, 2013
obadiah777: BE FRUITFUL AND MULTIPLY IS NOT TALKING ABOUT GIVING BIRTH TO CHILDREN. HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH FILLING THE SURFACE OF THE EARTH WITH CHILDREN

Give thanks!!! We know! I'm posing the question to make a point that indeed when the people think of this as if it had to do with children, we will eventually get to a point where everything breaks down. Another words, confusion.
Christianity EtcRe: What Was The Forbidden Fruit? by FromGuiriga(m): 1:29am On May 28, 2013
okeyxyz: From the characteristics(spirit) you'll know they are the same. Ie: The tree="knowledge of good and evil"; The law="Do's and Don'ts". They say exactly the same things, only in different words. But in the Law\mindset of God; there are no don'ts, Everything is do's, and yes, and Amen, because he created everything good and no Evil.

By Adam Adopting(eating) to be ruled by the tree of the knowledge of good and evil(or the Law), It became human nature and has been part of our consciences ever since. The presentation of the laws to moses was just a formality but the contract has been active since Adam.
Do you believe that a man eating a fruit 6,000 years ago will be your nature now? How?
Christianity EtcRe: What Was The Forbidden Fruit? by FromGuiriga(m): 1:20am On May 28, 2013
okeyxyz: huh huh



Again, huh huh

Please articulate your thoughts so I can understand your stand(no pun).

Sure, no problem.
The question is; If good made
everything good then why the tree of the knowledge of good and evil was not good? Then everything was not good was it?

My second comment was alluding to the story of creation and Eve and Adam eating some fruit... Remember the tree of life was also there in the garden. Which, by the way, is the tree of life which if eaten, gave you life forever. When Jesus was asked for eternal life, he did not mentioned the tree of life at the garden but instead told the man to follow the commandments.

So perhaps the story is not literal as in a real tree or real fruit. But a spiritual lesson instead. I believe Obidiah touched on it anyhow....
Christianity EtcRe: What Was The Forbidden Fruit? by FromGuiriga(m): 11:05pm On May 26, 2013
okeyxyz: ^^^ The issue here is the two mindsets\spirits at play: The one of God that says: all things, knowledge, principles created by God are good and fit for use by man, while the other(of the devil) says: some things are good and some things are evil(Therefore are prohibited). So Adam chose the second and we have seen the result of that since. You error is that you think this tree of the knowledge of good and evil is of god. This is what translates to the mindset that there are things in creation that have been banned by god and there are things allowed. This is not of God but of the devil and it translates to the Law of Moses. But as far as God is concerned: There is absolutely nothing in NATURE\UNIVERSE that is banned. Why are we sons(Gods) and inheritors(Gods) if we are afraid of common creations? Shouldn't these creations be subject to us??

So when it says that everything God made was good, then the writer was not being totally honest then?
Also, do you really think that as a result of Adam the world is where it is? Adam lived 6,000 years ago or so according to the bible.
If the tree of life was right there then why would God cast them out. Why would the Gods or God and whoever he was talking to feared they might eat from the tree of life?
Christianity EtcRe: What Was The Forbidden Fruit? by FromGuiriga(m): 10:44pm On May 26, 2013
Quick questions...Why would a God say "be fruitful and multiply..." If the only way to do that is by sexual intercourse then punish them for doing his command?

I'm not too sure if the tree or fruit of good and evil was a sexual act....
Christianity EtcRe: Boko Haram Vs Islam by FromGuiriga(m): 10:20pm On May 26, 2013
Propaganda.
Christianity EtcRe: Satan by FromGuiriga(m): 10:12pm On May 26, 2013
hisblud: @From_Guiriga i did not mean the literal man but the spirit behind what peter spoke, was what i was refering to, notice 'man'?
I understand...Why was The Father and Satan talking to one man (Peter).
Was not Peter "a new man" in Christ.
Christianity EtcRe: Satan by FromGuiriga(m): 5:02pm On May 25, 2013
hisblud: good to know you read it, unfortunately, becos your mind was blinded by whom you already know, you felt offended. Well let me give you a little pearl : peter was influence to forbid Christ from fulfilling His blessed purpose of death on the cross, hence Christ spoke to the 'man' behind the man peter, thus addressing the deceiver, you get it now, why i said 'get behind me satan'! Clown? Me? No way, my identity not a clown but a king and a priest becos of Christ love for me, to reign by the abundance of grace and freely justified in Christ that the law could not perform.


Back to the topic, mazaje, what is the shape of sound and the form of love?

Christ spoke to the "man" behind Peter, well the Father was also behind Peter at some point. Look, there was no "man" behind Peter. It was the spirit of Satan. Just like the spirit of the Father revealed the Son to Peter. Which brings me back to what someone pointed out already, that Satan is invisible. Just like the Father.
Christianity EtcRe: Man - A Three Dimesional Being by FromGuiriga(m): 12:08am On May 24, 2013
shdemidemi: But the word 'God' in itself is not singular, if you check the Hebrew word 'Elohiem'.
Great point...
In fact the word "LORD" does not appear until he (Yahweh) appears to Abraham and tells him his name. So why the word "LORD" appears in early in Genesis?

Jesus called out to "Eloha" on the cross not Yahweh? Does not a son know the Father name?

Just reasoning...

Give thanks.
Christianity EtcRe: The Gospel Of Peace by FromGuiriga(m): 9:57pm On May 23, 2013
What Gospel is this then?
Deuteronomy 7
1 When the Lord thy God shall bring thee into the land whither thou goest to possess it, and hath cast out many nations before thee, the Hittites, and the Girgashites, and the Amorites, and the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, and the Hivites, and the Jebusites, seven nations greater and mightier than thou;
2 And when the Lord thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them:
Christianity EtcRe: Satan by FromGuiriga(m): 9:46pm On May 23, 2013
Image123: @From Guriga
i don't know son of Sam the murderer, but i know that IF any man be in Christ, he is a new creature. Old things are passed away and all things are become new.
What about Peter then. Some clown here directed me to read something about "get behind me Satan". Was he (Peter) in Christ Jesus said to him "...get behind me Satan..."
Later, the Father revealed to Peter that Jesus was the son of God.
So, Did Satan go into Peter sometimes, then God sometimes? Was he a "new creature" then went back to the "old"

You see where I'm coming from here?

Give thanks for the reasoning.
Christianity EtcRe: Satan by FromGuiriga(m): 9:40pm On May 23, 2013
hisblud: i will repeat it "get behind me Satan", if its funny to you, deal with it! In addition, go get a bible and find out where i got what i said, read it and you will know why i use those words.
I read it. You quite conveniently played the part of Jesus while making me out to be Satan. This is the same lame psychological game they played with the Africans when they took them for slaves.
Same thing. "See it's in the Bible, read it here, I can own you as slaves for seven years... you and those born in my house...."
Stick to comedy. A circus might hire you.
Christianity EtcRe: Satan by FromGuiriga(m):
Image123: You have been told that satan is invisible. He is not physical matter, its irrational to forcefully treat him as physical. That is why you are getting parallel questions for other invisible things that we believe that you'd readily accept their existence. Nuclear energy is real, there are things that are not readily perceptible to humans but other mediums can detect. You cannot see what a dog or cat can see. What some animals have heard or smelled, you may not hear or smell until too late. Dangers that animals have perceived and migrated, humans may use precise, delicate and expensive instruments.
Not everything is rational. There are realities that are not subject to the rational or logical. You need to quit acting like anything that cannot be logically or rationally explained consistently is not real. Not everything is subject to laboratory. Take for instance the case I mentioned about those guys that killed a soldier, was it real? Was it rational? The news people are doing their best and the london police too will try to get reasons. But this is not just reason, there is a spirit in collaboration, there is an outside influence. You can decide to live in denial.
I agree. Satan in invisible. But What is Satan. You remember son of Sam the murderer. I heard last time he is now a Christian. Some would say that Satan was in him. Now that he is a Christian as I heard over the radio...Is sata still in him hiding somewhere or is satan gone from him?
Image123: You have been told that satan is invisible. He is not physical matter, its irrational to forcefully treat him as physical. That is why you are getting parallel questions for other invisible things that we believe that you'd readily accept their existence. Nuclear energy is real, there are things that are not readily perceptible to humans but other mediums can detect. You cannot see what a dog or cat can see. What some animals have heard or smelled, you may not hear or smell until too late. Dangers that animals have perceived and migrated, humans may use precise, delicate and expensive instruments.
Not everything is rational. There are realities that are not subject to the rational or logical. You need to quit acting like anything that cannot be logically or rationally explained consistently is not real. Not everything is subject to laboratory. Take for instance the case I mentioned about those guys that killed a soldier, was it real? Was it rational? The news people are doing their best and the london police too will try to get reasons. But this is not just reason, there is a spirit in collaboration, there is an outside influence. You can decide to live in denial.
I agree. Satan in invisible. But What is Satan. You remember son of Sam the murderer. I heard last time he is now a Christian. Some would say that Satan was in him. Now that he is a Christian as I heard over the radio...Is sata still in him hiding somewhere or is satan gone from him?
Image123: You have been told that satan is invisible. He is not physical matter, its irrational to forcefully treat him as physical. That is why you are getting parallel questions for other invisible things that we believe that you'd readily accept their existence. Nuclear energy is real, there are things that are not readily perceptible to humans but other mediums can detect. You cannot see what a dog or cat can see. What some animals have heard or smelled, you may not hear or smell until too late. Dangers that animals have perceived and migrated, humans may use precise, delicate and expensive instruments.
Not everything is rational. There are realities that are not subject to the rational or logical. You need to quit acting like anything that cannot be logically or rationally explained consistently is not real. Not everything is subject to laboratory. Take for instance the case I mentioned about those guys that killed a soldier, was it real? Was it rational? The news people are doing their best and the london police too will try to get reasons. But this is not just reason, there is a spirit in collaboration, there is an outside influence. You can decide to live in denial.
I agree. Satan in invisible. But What is Satan. You remember son of Sam the murderer. I heard last time he is now a Christian. Some would say that Satan was in him. Now that he is a Christian as I heard over the radio...Is sata still in him hiding somewhere or is satan gone from him?
Christianity EtcRe: Satan by FromGuiriga(m): 4:46pm On May 23, 2013
hisblud: Can you quote where i said i KNOW SATAN!? huh huh
A few post ago you were posting "get behind me Satan" in direct reply to my post as if I was Satan. You thought that was funny. It was, you're a comedian!
I'm not Satan.
Your have been avoiding the question throughout this thread.
Tell the people the truth. Tell them you don't have an answer. Be honest for once.
Christianity EtcRe: Satan by FromGuiriga(m): 12:48pm On May 23, 2013
hisblud: OH GREAT ... huh Am bold to make a confession... You are deceived by the great deceiver....making you feel you know what you think you know when he has blinded you from the truth!!
You are the one here professing to know Satan and what not. I'm just calling you out on your nonsense rambling man.
Christianity EtcRe: Satan by FromGuiriga(m): 12:47pm On May 23, 2013
hisblud: Get thee behind me satan!
Your funny guy. But that is what comedians do.
Christianity EtcRe: Satan by FromGuiriga(m): 2:12pm On May 22, 2013
hisblud: Hmm, most i know first before you attempt it?
Who is Satan?
Christianity EtcRe: Satan by FromGuiriga(m): 2:07pm On May 22, 2013
hisblud: he is already at work in and thru you...peeps...blinding you from actually seeing thru the illusion of naturalism. Making you to glorify the creature over the Creator who is Blessed forever.
Why hide yourself behind fancy talk bro. Very articulate answer. I have to give it you. I fear you do not know what you are talking about. That is what folks like you do when they do not have an explanation or answer to a question. Very articulate, very eloquent, mostly bullshyt.
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus (pbuh) Only Sent To The Jews And Not To Nigerians-leave Him Alone! by FromGuiriga(m): 6:02am On May 22, 2013
frosbel: From a pool of 1.4 BILLION Muslims which are 20% of the world's population (2 out of every 10 people)
Literature

1988 - Najib Mahfooz

Peace

1978 - Anwar El-Sadat

1994 - Yasser Arafat *

2003 - Shirin Ebadi

Chemistry

1999 - Ahmed Zewail

Physics

Abdus Salam



* NOTE: Norwegian, Kaare Kristiansen, was a member of the Nobel Committee. He resigned in 1994 to protest the awarding of a Nobel "Peace Prize" to Yasser Arafat, whom he correctly labeled a "terrorist."

Jewish Nobel Prize Winners

From a pool of 12 million Jews which are 0.2% of the World's Population (2 out of every 1,000 people)
Literature

1910 - Paul Heyse

1927 - Henri Bergson

1958 - Boris Pasternak

1966 - Shmuel Yosef Agnon

1966 - Nelly Sachs

1976 - Saul Bellow

1978 - Isaac Bashevis Singer

1981 - Elias Canetti

1987 - Joseph Brodsky

1991 - Nadine Gordimer

2002 - Imre Kertesz

World Peace

1911 - Alfred Fried

1911 - Tobias Asser

1968 - Rene Cassin

1973 - Henry Kissinger

1978 - Menachem Begin

1986 - Elie Wiesel

1994 - Shimon Peres

1994 - Yitzhak Rabin

1995 - Joseph Rotblat

Chemistry

1905 - Adolph Von Baeyer

1906 - Henri Moissan

1910 - Otto Wallach

1915 - Richard Willstaetter

1918 - Fritz Haber

1943 - George Charles de Hevesy

1961 - Melvin Calvin

1962 - Max Ferdinand Perutz

1972 - William Howard Stein

1972 - C.B. Anfinsen

1977 - Ilya Prigogine

1979 - Herbert Charles Brown

1980 - Paul Berg

1980 - Walter Gilbert

1981 - Ronald Hoffmann

1982 - Aaron Klug

1985 - Herbert A. Hauptman

1985 - Jerome Karle

1986 - Dudley R. Herschbach

1988 - Robert Huber

1989 - Sidney Altman

1992 - Rudolph Marcus

1998 - Walter Kohn

2000 - Alan J. Heeger

2004 - Irwin Rose

2004 - Avram Hershko

2004 - Aaron Ciechanover

Economics

1970 - Paul Anthony Samuelson

1971 - Simon Kuznets

1972 - Kenneth Joseph Arrow

1973 - Wassily Leontief

1975 - Leonid Kantorovich

1976 - Milton Friedman

1978 - Herbert A. Simon

1980 - Lawrence Robert Klein

1985 - Franco Modigliani

1987 - Robert M. Solow

1990 - Harry Markowitz

1990 - Merton Miller

1992 - Gary Becker

1993 - Rober Fogel

1994 - John Harsanyi

1994 - Reinhard Selten

1997 - Robert Merton

1997 - Myron Scholes

2001 - George Akerlof

2001 - Joseph Stiglitz

2002 - Daniel Kahneman

2005 - Robert (Israel) Aumann

Medicine

1908 - Elie Metchnikoff

1908 - Paul Erlich

1914 - Robert Barany

1922 - Otto Meyerhof

1930 - Karl Landsteiner

1931 - Otto Warburg

1936 - Otto Loewi

1944 - Joseph Erlanger

1944 - Herbert Spencer Gasser

1945 - Ernst Boris Chain

1946 - Hermann Joseph Muller

1950 - Tadeus Reichstein

1952 - Selman Abraham Waksman

1953 - Hans Krebs

1953 - Fritz Albert Lipmann

1958 - Joshua Lederberg

1959 - Arthur Kornberg

1964 - Konrad Bloch

1965 - Francois Jacob

1965 - Andre Lwoff

1967 - George Wald

1968 - Marshall W. Nirenberg

1969 - Salvador Luria

1970 - Julius Axelrod

1970 - Sir Bernard Katz

1972 - Gerald Maurice Edelman

1975 - David Baltimore

1975 - Howard Martin Temin

1976 - Baruch S. Blumberg

1977 - Rosalyn Sussman Yalow

1977 - Andrew V. Schally

1978 - Daniel Nathans

1980 - Baruj Benacerraf

1984 - Cesar Milstein

1985 - Michael Stuart Brown

1985 - Joseph L. Goldstein

1986 - Stanley Cohen [& Rita Levi-Montalcini]

1988 - Gertrude Elion

1989 - Harold Varmus

1991 - Erwin Neher

1991 - Bert Sakmann

1993 - Richard J. Roberts

1993 - Phillip Sharp

1994 - Alfred Gilman

1994 - Martin Rodbell

1995 - Edward B. Lewis

1997 - Stanley B. Prusiner

1998 - Robert F. Furchgott

2000 - Eric R. Kandel

2002 - Sydney Brenner

2002 - Robert H. Horvitz

Physics

1907 - Albert Abraham Michelson

1908 - Gabriel Lippmann

1921 - Albert Einstein

1922 - Niels Bohr

1925 - James Franck

1925 - Gustav Hertz

1943 - Gustav Stern

1944 - Isidor Issac Rabi

1945 - Wolfgang Pauli

1952 - Felix Bloch

1954 - Max Born

1958 - Igor Tamm

1958 - Il'ja Mikhailovich

1958 - Igor Yevgenyevich

1959 - Emilio Segre

1960 - Donald A. Glaser

1961 - Robert Hofstadter

1962 - Lev Davidovich Landau

1963 - Eugene P. Wigner

1965 - Richard Phillips Feynman

1965 - Julian Schwinger

1967 - Hans Albrecht Bethe

1969 - Murray Gell-Mann

1971 - Dennis Gabor

1972 - Leon N. Cooper

1973 - Brian David Josephson

1975 - Benjamin Mottleson

1976 - Burton Richter

1978 - Arno Allan Penzias

1978 - Peter L Kapitza

1979 - Stephen Weinberg

1979 - Sheldon Glashow

1988 - Leon Lederman

1988 - Melvin Schwartz

1988 - Jack Steinberger

1990 - Jerome Friedman

1992 - Georges Charpak

1995 - Martin Perl

1995 - Frederick Reines

1996 - David M. Lee

1996 - Douglas D. Osheroff

1997 - Claude Cohen-Tannoudji

2000 - Zhores I. Alferov

2003 - Vitaly Ginsburg

2003 - Alexei Abrikosov

After reviewing this list, can you supply a reason for the large discrepancy between the Arab/Islamic population's contribution to the world body and that of the Jew? There are 165 Jews listed as opposed to 6 from the Arab side.
Are these folks Ashkenazi Jews?
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus (pbuh) Only Sent To The Jews And Not To Nigerians-leave Him Alone! by FromGuiriga(m): 5:41am On May 22, 2013
LagosShia: Nigerians and gentiles nations should leave Jesus (as) alone before it is too late.Jesus (as) has warned you that he was not sent to you and that means he will deny you if you dont desist from claiming to follow him.he will deny you as he said he promised:

Matthew 7:23
Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!'


Jesus Only For Jews:
Matthew 15:22-24
"And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou Son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil. But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying, Send her away; for she crieth after us. But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel".

Matthew 10:5-6
"These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel".

Matthew 19:28
"And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel".

Note:
1.) Jesus refuses to attend to a gentile because he was only sent to the Children of Israel.
2.) He warns his disciples not to preach to gentiles.
3.) He said he would judge the tribes of Israel.so who would judge Nigerians?

the christian missionary undoubtedly would conjure up their tricks and bring the below verse as evidence that Jesus said his teachings should be given to all humans:

Mark 16:15-17
"And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world,and preach the gospel to every creature.He that believeth and is baptised shall be saved; But he that believeth not shall be damned".

THE BIG PROBLEM OF CONTRADICTION AND EVIDENCE OF INTERPOLATION!

Aside from the fact that Mark 16:15-17 contradicts the three verses in Matthew which explicitly confirm that Jesus was only sent to/for the Jews,there is also the problem of interpolation or fabrication in Mark Chapter 16.

In all bibles you can think of and check by yourself,Mark Chapter 16 ends at verse no.8. Verses 9-20 are not found in all bibles.verses 9-20 are relegated to a footnote because of lack of "authenticity" for it to be part of the "gospel".here is the reason from the "horse's mouth" that the bible authors themselves give:

Bible versions relegated verses 9-20 of Mark Chapter 16 to a footnote.then they give the reason why:

“The earliest manuscripts and some other ancient witnesses do not have Mark 16:9–20”
http://niv.scripturetext.com/mark/16.htm
Matthew 15:22-24
"And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou Son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil. But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying, Send her away; for she crieth after us. But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel".

This is a great verse...
Now tell me this: As a Muslim you do believe in the prophet Jesus right?
Did the prophet lie when he said he was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel?
Let's reason over this....

Give thanks!
Christianity EtcRe: Satan by FromGuiriga(m): 4:34am On May 22, 2013
hisblud: @plat god, satan and spirits are things conjured up deep inside the minds of the religious faithful? No! Rather your minds [atheists] are delibrately being manipulated to remain blinded by the great deceiver. While we that are sons of God see the grand manipulation hence we show forth His light in the face of Christ for you to see
That is what they are asking, where is this great deceiver that they cannot see it. Have you seen him/her/it?
Christianity EtcRe: Enough Beating About The Bush. Lets Get To The Point! by FromGuiriga(m): 2:21pm On May 20, 2013
Da-ny-ell:
I loff white Jesus, he giveth me understanding beyond human comprehension. Only Israel had lost sheeps at the time. The Gentiles and Samaritans had all found their sheeps.
If people like Pagan is to be consider a gentile by the Jews understanding...then he should be alright and not go to no "hellfire" to wrestle with no "devil" according to Jesus no. Since he is a "found sheep".
I'm not speaking for Pagan, just reasoning over the post...

Give thanks still.
Christianity EtcRe: Testimonies Of Healings From HIV And AIDS by FromGuiriga(m): 5:08am On May 20, 2013
toneyb: The only way we can test this is if you allow somebody to inject you with the HIV virus, you can go ahead and pray for 8 days and drink only water and lets see if that will cure you. huh
If you know someone with the virus, asked them to try it. Let us know.
The instructions are simple. Fast for seven days. If they cannot do seven days. Ask them to fast once a week. 24 hours no food only water.
It might sound ridiculous but if people are already taking medication that scientist worked diligently to invent with backing of billions of dollars and over 20 years of studies... Why not?
"Beware of simple solutions to difficult problems"
Christianity EtcRe: Testimonies Of Healings From HIV And AIDS by FromGuiriga(m): 5:01am On May 20, 2013
carloshome: SEVEN DAYS SERIOUS PRAYER AND FASTING CURES AIDS.

ITS HAS BEEN PROVED AND IT WORKS.

DONT TAKE IT AS A JOKE TRY IT AND ON THE SEVENTH DAY GO AND TAKE A TEST .

U WIL ONLY BE DRINKING WATER UNTIL THE MORNING OF D 8TH DAY AND U WILL SEE WHAT GOD CAN DO.
It would not be surprised if it worked. By pure observation, trees grow branches and leaves for hundreds of years by only light, water and air.
Christianity EtcRe: Testimonies Of Healings From HIV And AIDS by FromGuiriga(m): 4:55am On May 20, 2013
bindex: Is Sango a  Faith healer? Yes he is
Has he ever healed people from cancer, fibroid, heartache, barrenness etc Yes he has
What about HIV, yes he has too.

All these crooks that keep on deluding themselves with their stage managed "miracles". WHY DOES GOD NOT HEAL AMPUTEES? LIARS.
You are right. We have not see the highest heal amputees but I believe it can happen. By pure observation we see the trees grow branches...yet they only require water, light and air.
I know we are not trees, but it could happen one day...
Christianity EtcRe: Enough Beating About The Bush. Lets Get To The Point! by FromGuiriga(m): 4:30am On May 20, 2013
Da-ny-ell:
Your bravery will take you to hell faya!!
Hope you have enough courage to wrestle with the devil for the crown of the underworld.
Me, i will jejeli worship white Jesus!
Praises be to white Jesus!
Glory be to white Jesus!
Honour be to white Jesus!!
Condemnation be to black devil!!
Punishment be to black devil!
And finally,
Hell faya be to black devil!!!
Thank you!
I don't know if white Jesus would have a problem with Pagan position...
Was not white Jesus sent only to the lost sheep of the Israel? He told his followers specifically not to go to the gentiles of enter a city of the Samaritans...
What is your reasoning on that?
Christianity EtcRe: Joseph Is The Biological Father Of Yashua (yashua Ibn Joseph) by FromGuiriga(m): 2:33pm On May 15, 2013
MostHigh: Give thanks Sire,

If one is to truly come to a full comprehension of the son of god then one must read the scriptures in the dialect of Yashua and the twelve. (Aramaic text)

The Syriac texts and the Peshitta give a translation of Matthew in a different light which is quite contrary to the greek translations

Greek primacy is a fraud, the original gospels were written in Aramaic and not greek as the western church claims
Give thanks.
If you have a link to the text, can you post it. I'll read it. I stumbled upon the Gospel of the Holy Twelve about two weeks ago. I'll do some reading when I get a chance.

Give thanks!
Christianity EtcRe: Joseph Is The Biological Father Of Yashua (yashua Ibn Joseph) by FromGuiriga(m): 2:08pm On May 15, 2013
MostHigh: Yes Sire.

I cannot help but wonder at how the masses have been brainwashed on such a massive scale.

But like my brother Obadiah said, one more day closer to the final judgement.

If the One person I am supposed to mirror in all things (Yashua Ibn Joseph) is not HUMAN in the same sense as I am then what hope have I in attaining my goal of being just like him?

Is the most high so cruel as to play such a wicked trick on mankind?

To lead mankind in a pursuit that is obviously futile

Yashua Ibn Joseph is full man and full God Unmixed and undivided, and this is the true NATURE of all the sons of the most high God.


Peace love and joy!
Ahhh...Give thanks.
Yes, I've heard Muta specifically raise that same argument. Saying that if Yashua was created by an angel on earth then he could not have 100% human experience. Since he could not have been of our same nature. It was interesting to hear the point of view. I never heard it framed that way before so I had to reason on it.


What's you take on this:
18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was as follows: After His mother Mary was betrothed to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Spirit. 19 Then Joseph her husband, being a just man, and not wanting to make her a public example, was minded to put her away secretly. 20 But while he thought about these things, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream, saying, “Joseph, son of David, do not be afraid to take to you Mary your wife, for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Spirit. 21 And she will bring forth a Son, and you shall call His name Jesus, for He will save His people from their sins.”

It appears to me that she was pregnant before she and Joseph came together. Also, If Joseph had slept with her and got her pregnant, why would he want to put her away "secretly"? It would be in direct contradiction to the the above text saying Joseph was a "just man".

What's your reasoning on this. I saw your post where you quoted the Gospel of the Holy Twelve by the way...It's a interesting take that seem to oppose the letter according to Matthew.

Give thanks for the reasoning. Still listening....

"...Well what we know, it's not just what they tell us, and we're not ignorant..."
Christianity EtcRe: Joseph Is The Biological Father Of Yashua (yashua Ibn Joseph) by FromGuiriga(m): 1:56pm On May 13, 2013
Give thanks.
Yes, I was aware of that view. However, when this topic is discussed with "pastors" that been in church for many years, some claim that they are not aware of it other give the standard response "man, those are not canonical books" "be careful" and so on...

Another words, we don't want to reason over it. We are perfectly happy with what they tell us.
"They said what we know is just, what they tell us..."

I'll listen to the reasoning....
Christianity EtcRe: Chiristians How Did Your Family Become Christian. Please Share You Stories by FromGuiriga(m): 3:49am On May 12, 2013
PAGAN 9JA:
^ok thank you. so christianity was forced upon your family through slave trade.

ok. i want more testimonies like this. .
I would not say it was forced. Some people heard the gospel then accepted it as is. Perhaps it was forced on some but I don't think all.
Garinagus always believed in God. Proof which Garinagus until this day call God Baba (Father). This was brought from Africa. It was not thought to us by no colonizer or no Christian. As this is strictly a Garifuna word for the Father.

Forced Psychologically thou...that's another story. The Europeans told us that this Father has come to earth and his name is Jesus. And they had a book to back it up! He died for our sins so we don't have to go to hell...you are well read and know the rest.

Christianity is a proselyting religion. Some of the people who spread it (I believe) are well intentioned. Thy really want you saved (according to their understanding). Some are in it for the gains.

I just want it on record that it is not my opinion that Christianity was forced on Garinagus. I don't have the facts on that. I will look it up so I don't remain ignorant about this thou.

Anyway, give thanks.

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