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Cassava-Stick:
Your survival is entirely your responsibility, no one else owes you jackshit

MostHigh: DEUTERONOMY 32 VS 8 When the Most High gave to the nations their inheritance, when he divided mankind, he fixed the borders of the peoples <<< NO MIXING, ETHIOPIAN STAY WITH ETHIOPIAN, ARAB STAY WITH ARAB, SOMALIAN WITH SOMALIAN ETC ETC


The above is certainly overwhelming.

If the most High God divided mankind according to whatever principles he chose then mankind should not go contrary to his plan.

Cassava-Stick:
God or not, men will always find an excuse to kill other men. The rule of the world is survive or die. There are no exceptions to that rule.

I get you. I will not lie. I wish I could be surviving better thou.
Give thanks for the reasoning still!

Cassava-Stick:
Stop being silly, How many people have gone and killed villages because god killed david's son?

Cassava-Stick:
Are you really about to suggest that you cannot change your mind over how you want to treat your property?


Are you seriously inserting yourself into the fairytale? Anyway, don't worry, you won't live that long

Atheist:-D:
Not necessarily. If the destruction will cause harm to the creation and the people around it then no. There are rights attached to things like that. We are not just a computer program that can be removed. If we are then God could resolve the problem without killing anybody. There are other ways to punish him without harming others. It wasnt just his son also, a lot of others suffered too. The ark of covenant couldnt be brought into the city and there was famine and disease.

2cassava sticks: To deny someone the right to destroy his own creation is unjust don't you think?

noblefada: Thank you for your time so far and willingness to hear me out. The things of God though may be mysterious yet can be fully explained in the whole of scriptures.

For the injustice you said was done to the child, God was not the one responsible for that! I wish I could explain further but I will stop here because of the earlier mentioned limitations, otherwise I would have proceeded further to explain the diff between the Law & Grace which is much more technical and requires the Spirit for God for complete understanding.

But let give another example. In the book of Job, we're told about a man name Job who was not only very rich but was the most righteous man on earth at that time, but lost all he had. In Job 1:6-12 & 2:1-6, we were clearly told that it was satan that was responsible for His misfortune. But when Job was told of the tragedy, Job responded in Job 1: 20-21, by saying the Lord gave and the Lord has taken blessed be the name of the Lord! But we were clearly told that God was not responsible for is predicament. Just by the way, Job was the first book written in the bible.

2cassava sticks: Funny thread. christians denying the actions of their make-belief god, while atheists kill themselves over the details of the fairytale.

Question: All Smeagol wanted was a ring, Why did Tolkein inflict him with ugliness and kill him?
Answer: Both Smeagol and Lord Of The Rings are creations of J.R. Tolkein. He is free to do with them as he pleases.

Moral of the story: If you write a book, you get to kill any characters you choose. Now all of you should stop being bigoted c[color=#000000]unt[/color]s and do something more productive.

*Kails*:
smh @ the ethiopian debate.
who cares? the only reason rastas acknowledge them is because of Hallie Selassie and other Ethiopians who donated land to the repatriates (Jamaicans and AAs). Land which would later be seized (most of it anyway) by his successor . The name Ras Tafari was his birth name and the name as far as the lifestyles goes is to pay homage.

@From_Guiriga HEY! You're GARIFUNA?!
I am (part) Jamaican Maroon! We're cousins!!

and I'll check out the video you posted soon.

PAGAN 9JA:
i didnt say that was bullshit. there mightve been a tribe of Judah. I just dont believe their descendants are in Ethiopia.

In reality, the medieval incarnation of the Solomonic dynasty didn't come into power until 1262 AD, claiming descent from the Kings of Aksûm. The dynasty, a bastion of Ethiopian Orthodox Christianity, came to rule Ethiopia on 10 Nehasé 1262 AD EC when Yekuno Amlak overthrew the last ruler of the Zagwe dynasty. Their predecessors, the Zagwe dynasty, were said not to be of "the house of Israel" (i.e. of Solomon and Menelik). They were Pagans as well. The claims of descent of the Aksûmite Kings preceding the Zagwe dynasty are uncertain, though early Pagan inscription denote the King as "son of the unconquerable Mahrem" (translated in Greek as Ares), while medieval Ethiopian sources ascribe them a similar claim of descent. This is consistent with the earliest records that testify that one half of Ethiopians followed the laws of Moses, while the other half worshipped Pagan gods.

These dynasties were clearly of local descent that became "Judaized" due to conversion , early missionary activity, etc.



check this thread out: https://www.nairaland.com/1023235/real-hausa

oh and if you are talking about religion, we Hausa have 2 types, though both are similar:

1 is Maguzawa religion. This is the mainstream religion. It has a number of Gods (Iska/Winds). it differs among sub-tribes by slight variations, but the general idea is the same.

2nd is Boori which is mostly practiced by City-Hausa and half-muslims.

*Kails*:
*edited*
I don't want to jump the gun but i sense some doubt even from you?
Do YOU doubt there is a God?

Anyway, Muta should be classified as Agnostic tbh.

muta talks about spirituality but denies the presence of a God

and yes i believe that is the program.
i'll post it if i find it.

*Kails*:
Nah bruv. Muta is an atheist.
I watched an interview he had with one of Jamaica's most respected Christian Show hosts who at one time was at odds with Muta, and he asked Muta to confirm or deny his atheism and Muta said "I do not believe in a divine entity". I don't think Muta looks at it from a standpoint that the Gods of each religion are all false due to contradictions..instead he thinks the idea of a God PERIOD is false..

PAGAN 9JA:
its not because of rastafarian or anything. hey were invaded by italy, and the defeated Haile Selassie appealed to UN, so the brits sent in their troops and kicked the italians out. Also some parts of Ethiopia, such as the Northern parts, were inhabited by the fierce warring Afar/Danakil Tribes, and no europeaan who went there could come out alive. the Afar would just kill any intruder and cut their testicles and hang them around their necks as trophies. savage lands. .

*Kails*:
^^may he rest in peace.
but this comment is wrong and kinda ignit.

Rastafarianism combines elements of all religions mostly Hinduism, Islam, Christianity, Confucianism and Afro. elements which formed their unique lifestyle (Rastafarianism is not considered a religion). The purpose is to promote unification. It's a very misunderstood way of life.

There are different sects or subgroups of Rastafarianism all who have their own beliefs.
They wrap their hair differently, some don't wear clothes that comes from animal hide, others don't support smoking weed and yes there are even some rastas (though VERY FEW) who are atheist (Mutaburuka sp?? is one who publicly admitted he doesn't believe in a divine entity). I mean it goes on....


dude...your patois sux donkey balls. but the bold is true.

noblefada: Ok because you've shown interest, I'll try but let me remind you dat you may not fully comprehend.

First of all every believer has the spirit of God, but also with the Spirit the believer is told to study and show himself approved 2 Tim 2:5. So the issue with most xtians is that they don't study enough! That's why I'll rather spend time teaching xtians.

You see the folks of the old testament (OT) did not have the in-filling of the Holy Spirit and so could not fully comprehend what was shown to them so they added their human knowledge. Yes those miracles in OT happened and it still happening. The bible is a story about one person and one person alone, Christ Jesus. So from genesis God started talking about Jesus howbeit in types and shadows Heb 10:1, and thru visions and types for them to understand but not the whole truth Heb 1:1. So what those people saw and how they interpreted them were not truly representative of what they saw but a kind of shadow not the main thing, I hope you understanding me. Christ is the explanation of all things and this explanation is in the epistles (and there is a reason for this).

Let me ask you something in the garden of Eden we heard it was said that it was the serpent that deceived eve right? but in actual fact it was the devil. (types & shadows).

Yes it was an Angel that gave the law Gal 3:19; Heb 2:2. Let me give you a super hint (even many xtians are not aware of this). The devil is only mention 4 times in the whole OT and satan was not mentioned until the book of Job, so the people of earlier times did not know or have an idea who satan was.

PAGAN 9JA:
actually i think that lion of judah stuff is cooked up bullsh!t. because if you consider the ethnic groups of Haile Selassie, he is Oromo and AMhara.

Just the other day, I was discussing Ehtiopian Traditional Religion with my cab driver. He told me they still practice it and was excitedly discoursing with me about it.

Amhara religion consists of four separate but interwoven realms of religious belief. First, there is the dominant Monophysite christian religion, which includes the Almighty God, the Devil, and the saints and angels in Heaven. Second, there are the zar and adbar protector spirits who exact tribute in return for physical and emotional security and who may punish or neglect believers for failure to recognize them through the practice of the appropriate rituals. Third is the belief in buda, a class of people who possess the evil eye and exert a deadly power over the descendants of God's "chosen children." The fourth category of beliefs includes the ghouls and devils that prowl the countryside, creating danger for unsuspecting people who cross their path. Although the Christian beliefs have been practiced since nearly the beginning of Christianity, the "Pagan" elements probably go back much further.

The ORomo ofcourse have their own trad. religion They call one of their Gods as Roog.

MostHigh: Was Yashua not a human being?

Corect me if I am wrong

KarmaMod: For people who claim to love and respect 'Nubian queens", why cant they ever stick to ONE?

rotimy: My advice to any serious Christian or muslim is to stay away from the Rastas! They are using "liberation songs" to cover up their cult's mask which is worship of human being as the Christ and the LORD

rotimy: Gangaseed is totally ignorant of Rasta religion! He was only seeing the surface!

The birth of the movement of Rastafari can be officially fixed in Ethiopia during the coronation of the prince Ras Tafari Makonnen (Haile Selassie) on November 2, 1930. This was no ordinary event in Jamaica because a year earlier Marcus Mossiah Garvey had a prophetic vision, seeing a king be crowned in Africa.
After the coronation of His Imperial Majesty Haile Selassie I (Power of the Trinity), several individuals searched the Bible for confirmation and found it in the Psalms: "A Prince shall come out of Egypt, and Ethiopia shall soon stretch out her hand unto Jah". The prophecy was fullfilled and these people were the first Rastafarians.
Apart from carrying the legal title "King of Kings, Lord of Lords, conquering Lion of the tribe of Judah" that is written in Revelations, Haile Selassie is the 225th descendant of King Salomon, son of David, and the Queen of Sheba.-source=http://www.earthcultureroots.com/rastafarism.html
On the surface, it looks like a religion but any baby Bible Collage Graduate knows that Rastafarism is a modern CULT. the frist sign of a cult is misquoting the Scriptures to suit their purposes like AMORC,GRAIL,ECKANKAR,RASTAS ETC.
Second sign is the demotion of God. THe third is DEITIFICATION OR DIVININZATION OF MAN which simply means turning a man to a deity or divine person for worship like Olumba Obu,Sat Guru Maharaji, jesus of Oyinbo and of course, Emeperor Halie Selassie whom they worship as Christ and Messiah.
Ganja or marijuana is the strong weed that usually open them up to the spirit world for satanic anointing for music, sex orgy and violence

Cayon: Does one have to be a dread to be a rasta?

noblefada: That's why I said earlier it takes the Spirit of God to fully understand this and again the mistake many make is to take the bible literary! Listen for those who care the bible is not and will never be a literal book.

I wish I could explain further but you may not truly comprehend. I perceive you were once a xtian or have bin involved with the faith? because of lack of indept teaching of God's Word many cannot fully understand God.

I give you a comparison, if you read the book of exodus you will think it was God Moses went to meet on the mount and it was God that gave him the laws, but in actual truth it was an Angel and not God.

cassava stick: And so what?

noblefada: I
First pls quote me correctly, I said fully understand because you don't need a full knowledge to be saved you just need only to believe in Christ Jesus! full knowledge is for you to be established in the truth you now believe Ephe 4: 10 downward.

Now to your question, I wnt to give u guyz an hint. It was not God that killed David's son.

cassava stick: Simple answer: because both David and his son are God's creation and God has every right to treat his property as he pleases.

noblefada: As I said b4 in most of these threads you guys are not ready to learn but to discredit any answer or explanations offered because of your many like minded folks following the thread. But if you truly are looking for answers then we can have a private discourse.

But let me say this, Christianity and God are still the most mysterious truth on earth! even xtians themselves don't fully understand how much none believers. So I don't disturb myself so much when they try to explain and understand the bible, but I assure there are answers to ur questions.