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JMAN05: God allowed it so that men could multiply. when these has been accomplished, He stopped it.

I ask you. If you created just two persons and told them to fill the earth, how can they do so without inbreeding? tell me.

JMAN05: Firstly, what is your problem with inbreeding? what does it contribute to where Cain found his wife?

The bible never gave reason why God stopped inbreeding. It could be because of its future disadvantage or because people have increased for them to marry those who are not related to them.

God didnt stop it because of the canaanites who engaged in it cos he allowed it for the israelite so that they will mutiply and produce seed.

There is no sense to this question. but atheists just like asking unnecessary questions.

JMAN05: To the first question. the bible didnt give direct answer on why God stopped marriage between cousins.

But remember that at that time humans were closer to perfection than we are now, so marriage between them then couldnt have brot defects as it occurs today. So God may have forbade it when He observed that imperfection had reached a stage of interrupting safe birth.

Your second question is not clear. I find it hard to see how "rectifying" in the above can form a logical question. shade more light on what your question is.

Rexyl: God allowed inbreeding in the first instance but later banned it. First it was one plus one that made two and more offsprings in that process starting from the two created by God. After fulfillment of population that guaranteed continuity and existence God had to stop it, even long before people could apply technology on nature. God is omniscience, He knows that socially this way of procreation should no longer be acceptable (it is stigmatic) and biologically, it shouldn't be encouraged, it will lead to decline of certain characters and reduction in performance over time. Animals raised through inbreeding end up producing traits of low value, so it has to be discouraged.

Don Oms: I have been trying to read every single post on this thread until I got tired and decided to post something myself.
The OP has made a good observation (I once asked myself the question anyway) and many posters have contributed meaningfully (and otherwise, I'm afraid).
Apropos, I have this to say: The Holy Bible is a "perfect" summary of what was, what is now and what is to come. Hence, it couldn't tell in detail what information isn't relevant to the cause it supports. Like John said in John 21:25 "And there are also many things, whatever Jesus did, which, if they should be written singly, I suppose the world itself could not contain the books that would be written. Amen." (MKJV) ...And that's just Jesus' account! Imagine an account of everything from inception.
In other words, the Bible didn't mention where Cain got his wife neither did it mention ALL those who were born (and many other things) because those info weren't necessary in order to support the message of the Bible and the purpose of writing it. It is clearly written & said by God that Adam was the first man & then Eve followed. I'll advice we stop bothering ourselves on unimportant "unquoted" details in the Biblical history and embrace the basic message it preaches: LOVE, RIGHTEOUSNESS, PEACE and GOD's WILL.
Thank You.

idee.esperanza:
Cain married his sister, Luluwa and the moved away



Seth married Aklia

Pastor Olu T: You are yet to answer my question if you a xtian, and i would also like to know ur definition of WORD OF GOD?

Yooguyz: The ethiopian's did not witness Jesus' life and death, They were second hand witnessess of the outpouring of the holy ghost during the early church. At the other hand the writers of the hebrew and greek scriptures were wrote down what they saw, did, partook of. They were credible witnesses of the account they wrote of.
WHOSE REPORT WOULD YOU BELIEVE?
We should not be amazed that different groups have their own distorted versions of God's word. Apostle Paul through the holy ghost told us that these things would happen in the last days.

Pastor Olu T: I least expected this from you, i thought we have established why it is the word of God in the previous posts, why now going back?

Are you a xtian? I consider that question a mockery of the faith, 'cos if you are you will know better.

izi-n-bizi:
Once more, be guided in truth and knowledge, void of prejudice, bias and timidity. For the creator has given to us a spirit for soundness of mind. I re-iterate loudly to whomever is of wisdom and in pursuit of salvation and greater glory - THE BIBLE IS NOT THE WORD OF GOD! The creator can not be captured in texts of mortals.

Emusan: Try to understand how God works right from the creation of the world first before you say anything.

elnath: ............. Thank you very much, my man. God is a spirit. Granted. God wants us to think and act like Him? What!!! Go and read the Old Testament of the Bible. I can't really act like that God that was so bloodthirsty, killing and plundering whole nations just for fun. That certainly isn't someone worthy of emulation, someone who destroys children just because of the sin of their parents. Now, as for God being God and man at the same time, that is not what the Bible said. Jesus Christ isn't God. He never purported to be. In John 14:28, he made a clear distinction between him and God. And He incarnated to save man? From what? From Himself? So God can change from the bloodlusty fellow in the Old Testament to the pacifying, all-loving God of the New Testament, who still through the apostles John, Paul and Peter still threatened fire and brimstone on dissenters on the Last Day? Now, if we're not bound by the laws of Moses, by which laws are we bound? Who gave Moses those laws? Are they not Holy Writ, from God Himself? So, suddenly, God's law changed? Can God be so fickle and shifty in his ways? An entity that was immutable for billions of years changed just within four thousand years of creating man, shifting His goalpost to accommodate man? So in the vast universe, so mind-blowing that it beats my three-dimensional mind, it is just man that God sees fit to subject everything to? Brother, take away the biase of religion and what you've been taught and look at this objectively. We've not even tapped into the vastness of our earth. How then is it that the universe was created for us, for our subjection and exploitation? These are questions you should sincerely answer for yourself, from the core of you, not by quoting what you read in other people's writing of their understanding of the mechanisms of life and the universe. Thank you, brother.

obadiah777: OK NOW I GOT TIME TO ANSWER THIS QUESTION COMPREHENSIVELY. SO WHAT IT IS YOU ARE THINKING IS NOT WHAT IS HAPPENING. LETS START WITH VERSE 35

35 Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus. PHILIP START TELLING HIM ABOUT JESUS

36 And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized? AND AS THEY WENT FURTHER INTO SCRIPTURES THEY CAME UPON A CERTAIN SCRIPTURE, AND THE EUNUCH SAID 'SEE THIS SCRIPTURE HERE, WHAT PREVENTS ME FROM UNDERSTANDING IT ?'

37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. AND PHILIP TOLD HIM IF HE BELIEVED IN JESUS WITH ALL HIS HEART, HE WOULD UNDERSTAND AND BE ABLE TO INTERPRET SCRIPTURES. AND HE SAID, I BELIEVE THAT JESUS CHRIST IS THE SON OF GOD'

38 And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him. AND THE EUNUCH STOPPED HIS CARRIAGE. AND THEY BOTH WENT DEEP INTO THE SCRIPTURES AND PHILIP TAUGHT HIM SO MANY SCRIPTURES.

39 And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing. AND WHEN THEY FINISHED THE LESSONS, THE SPIRIT MOVED PHILIP TO GO TO ANOTHER CITY TO GO PREACH TO OTHER PEOPLE AND THE EUNUCH SAW HIM NO MORE AFTER THAT AND HE WENT ON HIS WAY HAPPY THAT HE HAD RECIEVED PROPER UNDERSTANDING OF THE SCRIPTURES FROM PHILIP

40 But Philip was found at Azotus: and passing through he preached in all the cities, till he came to Caesarea. MEANWHILE PHILIP WAS IN AZOTUS PREACHING AND HE ALSO PREACHED IN SO MANY OTHER CITIES TILL HE CAME TO CAESAREA

AND THERE YOU HAVE IT. NOTHING MAGICAL OR DISSAPEARING ACT HAPPENED

joe4christ: [size=15pt]Humans will always question and even judge God's authority with their shallow limited mind, though their live of consciousness on earth was but a few, yet they assume they've comprehended enough knowledge about the secret of the universe, enough to judge the creator himself, but unknown to them, it will take eternity to truly know God and his purposes, human cannot fathom God and his plans, God's ways are higher than ours just as the heavens are higher than the earth so are his ways higher than ours, who can fathom or comprehend him or his will.
Human will always question the existance of God but the wise will accept and follow him by faith.
For i'm certain and i know it's true that a day is coming and it's coming soon when all secrets ever hidden and all mysteries will be made open by God himself to the whole universe and then those who judged and condemned him will see their own foolishness and bow at the wisdom of God. His wisdom is seen in the whole of creation but we humans are quick to judge him for our own faults and mistake, when we start suffering for our own sins and wickedness then in pain of the consequences of our actions we label God as wicked, unjust and insensitive.
But in the last day, the judgement day, God will show mercy to his people who loved him and followed him by faith. He will give them eternal rest,
but the wicked will be eternally punished in an unquenchable fire, not because God finds pleasure in it, no but because they've chosen the path of distruction according to their deeds while on earth.
They used their free will given them by God against God himself, and now even though he wanna save them cos of the love he has for them, but they've rendered him handicap cos they chose while on earth to live without him now they cannot live with him in his place of rest, and there is no alternative place to live other than the place reserved for the enemies of God (The devil and the fallen angels).
This is the truth and i cannot hide it.
Let him who have ears hear![/size]

Adufaye: it dosent make him a creator! Bside I don't even knw those names u mention,4me it devilish!

Mr Troll: huh? Are you mistaking my comment? In telling Plaetton to leave Chibuebem alone. Before I would say that don't you think I would have a reason? Did you see anybody engaging Hisblud.
*in game of throne voice* they're known. They're known.

Chibuebem: too bad for you then. But no singular event in recorded history has shaken the foundation of earth like the death and resurrection of Christ. He came and saved man from sin. His followers still stand tortures and persecution till today. Have you ever stopped to ask your narrowed mind why his true disciples withstood and still withstand tortures beyond imagination because of him. Its cuz they experienced, saw, fellowshiped with him and know him. Do not be decieved, i do not stand for religion, i stand for and proclaim my saving, living relationship with God through Christ.

'On this ROCK will i build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it'
Jesus Christ
the destiny of mankind is already written. God loves us. He sent jesus to save. Accept his salvation, escape the coming wrath. Follow him, and walk in the reality of his word.

'For we are companions of the messiah if we hold fast unto the end the reality of what we had at the start.' Hebrews 3:14.

Do not easily speak against what you do not understand. God is a spiritual God who relateq spiritual people. Sin is as much a physical problem as it is a spiritual one. Flee the coming wrath, walk in the reality of Gods word

Mr Troll: ^^^
you're wasting your time bro. That guy is a programmed sheep. Olaadegbu clone. . .

plaetton: This is the father of medicine.
Doctors today still swear by his name.

One wonders why they don't swear by the name of Jesus.
Could it because, Jesus, a supposed miraculous healer, did not leave any legacy for those he left behind in terms of healing techniques, the cause of disease, drugs nor even herbs?.
Nada.

lets look at the bio of Hippocrates.

Hippocrates is credited with being the first person to believe that diseases were caused naturally, not because of superstition and gods. Hippocrates was credited by the disciples of Pythagoras of allying philosophy and medicine.[16] He separated the discipline of medicine from religion, believing and arguing that disease was not a punishment inflicted by the gods but rather the product of environmental factors, diet, and living habits. Indeed there is not a single mention of a mystical illness in the entirety of the Hippocratic Corpus. However, Hippocrates did work with many convictions that were based on what is now known to be incorrect anatomy and physiology, such as Humorism.




Again, compared to Jesus, son of god and miraculous healer, whose bio we all know, who do you think contributed more to humanity?

plaetton: If we know what causes a disease, then we are in a better position to avoid the disease. The more we know about a particular disease, the more proactive we can be in terms of avoiding it, curing it, or managing the disease when it comes.
There are no illusions and hail mary's in indentifying, fighting or managing a disease.
Even some unavoidable genetic diseases can be identified early and treated or managed with gene therapy.

Stems cells are now being used to treat hitherto incurable ailments, and are also being used to grow entire organs.

The men and women involved in many researches that lead to these breakthroughs have done a million times more for mankind than Jesus is believed to have ever done.
This is self evident.

plaetton: Jesus, son of god , or co-god, as the trinitarians would have it, the designer and fashioner of the universe, journeyed from heaven all the way to earth, and spent only three years teaching some a local tribe about the kingdom of heaven? In all that time, he forgot to put his teachings in writing for posterity.

He supposedly cured many of illnesses, but forgot to document his healing techniques to posterity.
Without telling us the causes of disease, he left, then humankind continued to be ravaged by the very same diseases that Jesus supposedly cured.

It took another 2000 yrs for humanity to be gifted with the birth of Louis Pasteur.
Lets take a brief biography of Louis Pasteur, courtesy of Wiki.

[b]Louis Pasteur (/ˈluːi pæˈstɜr/, French: [lwi pastœʁ]; December 27, 1822 – September 28, 1895) was a French chemist and microbiologist who is well known for his discoveries of the principles of vaccination, microbial fermentation and pasteurization. He is remembered for his remarkable breakthroughs in the causes and preventions of diseases, and his discoveries have saved countless lives ever since. He reduced mortality from puerperal fever, and created the first vaccines for rabies and anthrax. His medical discoveries provided direct support for the germ theory of disease and its application in clinical medicine. He is best known to the general public for his invention of the technique of treating milk and wine to stop bacterial contamination, a process now called pasteurization. He is regarded as one of the three main founders of bacteriology, together with Ferdinand Cohn and Robert Koch, and is popularly known as the "father of microbiology".[2][3][4]

Pasteur also made significant discoveries in chemistry, most notably on the molecular basis for the asymmetry of certain crystals and racemization. He was the Director of the Pasteur Institute, established in 1887, till his death, and his body lies beneath the institute in a vault covered in depictions of his accomplishments in Byzantine mosaics.
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So between Jesus and Louis Pasteur, who is the saviour of mankind?

ijawkid: Interesting......

You worship the Father through Jesus.?...meaning Jesus is the appointed vendor through which your worship gets to the Father who is the one undisputed GOD.....

Meaning you agree with the fact that the Father alone is the one God....

.....

Case closed........

shdemidemi: ****A gospel of the kingdom primarily for the nation of Israel.

OLAADEGBU: Every eye shall see Him when He comes as this will be in stages, first advent and second advent.

(Luke 17:34-36).

17:34 in one bed. When the Lord comes, it will be night when men are in bed. But it will also be early morn, when women are grinding meal (Luke 17:35) and mid-day, when men are working in the field (Luke 17:36). This is possible only if the earth is round and rotating daily on its axis.

17:35 the other left. The return of the Lord, like His first coming, will entail many events stretched over a period of time. It will be initiated by the sudden translation of believers out of the unbelieving world, as described more fully in I Thessalonians 4:13–5:10. Thus the Lord frequently exhorted His disciples (including us) always to be watchful and ready for His coming (e.g., Luke 21:36), an admonition which would be pointless under any other interpretation of such Scriptures.

OLAADEGBU: Yes, it is literal. As some will be sleeping at night in one part of the world others will be working in the field in another part of the world at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

dougivilla: The sin of the people of Jericho was the same
as all the inhabitants of Canaan and all others – they worshipped idols, were immoral and did evil in the sight of God. Canaan was defiled by its inhabitants.

Exodus 23:23 For mine Angel shall go before thee, and bring thee in unto the
Amorites, and the Hittites, and the
Perizzites, and the Canaanites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites: and I will cut them off. 24 Thou shalt not bow down to their gods, nor serve them, nor do after their works: but thou shalt utterly overthrow them, and quite break down their images...

32 Thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor with their gods. 33 They shall not dwell in thy land, lest they make thee sin against me: for if thou serve their gods, it will surely be a snare unto thee. Some of the evils that they did are listed in


Leviticus 18 Leviticus 18:3... after the doings of the land of Canaan, whither I bring you, shall ye not do: neither shall ye walk in their ordinances.

Read verses 6 to 26 and Leviticus 18:27 (For all these abominations have the men of the land done, which were before you, and the land is defiled 28 That
the land spue not you out also, when ye
defile it, as it spued out the nations that
were before you.

Moses repeatsed the warning to the generation about to go over Jordan into the promised.

Deuteronomy 12:30 Take heed to thyself that thou be not snared by following them,
after that they be destroyed from before
thee; and that thou enquire not after their
gods, saying, How did these nations serve
their gods? even so will I do likewise. 31
Thou shalt not do so unto the LORD thy God: for every abomination to the LORD,
which he hateth, have they done unto their gods; for even their sons and their
daughters they have burnt in the fire to
their gods.

God brings punishment upon nations for the evil that they do. So did He for the Canaanites, Sodom and Gomorah, Jerico et al! You may need to look elsewhere for examples to butress this your ''SHAKEDOWN'' THEORY!!!

I INSIST THAT GOD IS NO MONSTER, He will never do anything without a just reason!!! Nineveh sinned and were forgiven by God without any ''COMMENSURATE PUNNISHMENT'' a la plaetton!!

Bros, its game up!! be honourable!! Stop dilly-dallying!

Emusan: Because it proceded out from God!

Shallom!!!

Emusan: @bold-Actually they're epistles puting together and called it Bible.

The bones of my contention is the content inside. Afterall all books are compile and print using electronics device. The content inside is what make It 'Holy & True' because it came out from Holyspirit. So it's a HolyBook!