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[quote author=Jenifa_ link=topic=585869.msg7538653#msg7538653 date=1295104562]I'm glad you admit that you find excuses for him.
I guess what you are looking for is a way to change him and make him faithful to you. Trust me, you don't want to go there.
there is they saying that goes (and i'm totally paraphrasing lol) "after marriage, women wonder why their husbands refuse to change and men wonder why their wives have changed" ie. while the woman is wondering why her husband hasn't kicked his bad habits and become a more perfect husband, the man is wondering why his formerly perfect wife has gained weight, nag more etc. lol
i'm sure you don't want to end up in this frustration.
I say you ask him about the condoms. look for a way to make it seem as if you stumbled on them by accident ie you were cleaning his place or something.  find a trick. better to do this now than wait until 10 yrs down the road then he will start seeing you as a nagging wife.[/quote]Very well said

Limit your NL input to the romance section ok!

Politics in not your strongest point. You feel right at home here!

[quote author=Jenifa_ link=topic=582709.msg7538571#msg7538571 date=1295103602]@tensor,

I guess this was the federal "common entrance" exam then.
it's been many yrs ago so I don't remember all the details.[/quote]I caught you STFU. You lying binch

The additional exam is called interview, and depending on the year it could either be oral or written. And yes, the conduct is the same for all federal government schools, Queens college is not treated any different from FGGC Oyo or Ijanikin or Kings college or FGC Jos.

Again STFU Jenifa. Education/politics is not your thing, Romance is your strongest point, just stick with romance and we will be fine!

[quote author=Mrs.Chima link=topic=585869.msg7538548#msg7538548 date=1295103448]I hear you Annawhite!  I was trying to give you protection from the bullets you will get from THOSE MEN.

Yes, Yoruba men are some master players.  T[b]hey can teach a class or two on MACK DADDYism.[/b][/quote]At least, they all arent in chains like y'all fellow AA brothers

annawhite:
80% are flirt!
why do u think they have  *magun*?

Very stupidd Ibo cu-nt you are

[quote author=Jenifa_ link=topic=582709.msg7538460#msg7538460 date=1295102332]many students in urban areas have problems in english language too. you'd be surprised.
many of my classmates were semi-illiterate and this was lagos.


[s]there is only one common entrance exam as far as I know. It is the exam you take at the end of primary school and your scores determine what secondary school you attend. Many take the exam in pry 5 but some take it in pry 6.
In my alma mater for example, my pry 6 class was half the size of pry 5 because many students left the school after pry 5. but it doesn't matter. either wa, the exam is required to get into a federal school and you have to score above a certain mark to get in.
also, the state you are from determines your cut off mark for each school. ex. 480 could be the cut off mark for students from osun state trying to get into Ijaniki (a federal governent school in iforgotwhere lol). For certain schools, an additional exam/oral is required. I think that was the case for queens college. [/s]
lots of students are weeded out in the process. so many students at federal colleges are brighter first of all. and I will also go on to say that the teacher salary and qualification are higher for federal govt college teachers is higher than for local schools where the rest of the students end up in (maybe with the exception of those in private schools. I don't know if private schools require any scores).

If you attended a local secondary school in naija, you may understand that this is were the bulk of the waec failers are.
believe me when I say I was in JSS3 and didn't know anything about waec until they called us to register for it.
many of my classmates were semi-illiterate as I already mentioned

If I don't study for my exam, I will get a C which is a bad grade but still a pass.  On the other hand, If I don't attend class at all and i'm totally clueless, then I get a fail. Then if I study hard and cram, I get an A+. get my logic?
studying and cramming should be used to achieve a stellar score. why should one have to study like there is no tomorrow before they can achieve the bare minimum passing score?
what's the point of attending classes at all then if all you need to do to pass is buy past exams and cram the answers plz enlighten me.[/quote]There is more than one common entrance

There is one for the federal  secondary schools which is the same everywhere in the country and it is used for placement in federal schools

There is one for  state secondary schools and it is state determined, depending on the type of school and everyone in the state has to take it

And there is G2

All in all, you take three exams!

Again, you are clueless. STFU

Again, the federal Govt exam cut-off is not state dependent, it is gender dependent.   But indigenes of a state are given preference for schools in their state EG,  A lagosian would find it easier to get into Ijanikin than say someone from Osun State. And for Ipetumodu or Ikirun, an Osun state indigene would be given preference over, say, a lagosian. But again, this is after quota system has been satisfied. Because like everything federal, Each school must reflect federal character.


Again, you are clueless, STFU,. You are more Jenifa than Sikira or Ngozi or Hauwa!

Which one gives him a better chance at beating GEJ and Buhari?

oyinbo85:
from what you are saying my boyfriend appears to be a real nigerian then

The present president of the country is from the SS

So congratulations

I sincerely wish you the best of luck with your husband. i hope everything works out between you two!


Be prayerful, God still answers prayers!

I meant South south, some people call them Niger Deltans


The South-South Niger Delta, also known as the "South South Zone", includes Akwa Ibom State, Bayelsa State, Cross River State, Delta State, Edo State and Rivers State.

They own the oil the rest of the country enjoys! They are very nice people, unlike the cannibalistic Ibos.

oyinbo85:
Are there real Nigerians at all? Too me it seems its just many different tribes that dont have too much in common with each other and are not really keen on each other

Yeah, Yoruba people and Hausas and some people in the SS are real Nigerians. Ibos are not.

oyinbo85:
JEEEEEZ! u must be insane. stop insulting me. i dont have any issue with Ibos or non-Ibos! I just answered the question fstranger1 asked if my boyfriend is Ibo and I answered he is not. So just to please all the Ibos should i answer he is Ibo even though he is not?

Exactly, that is what he wants

Ever heard of 419? or Nigerian Scam? The biggest perpetrators are Ibos. they lie, cheat, kill, traffic drugs and do all sorts of things inimical to the progress of the Nigerian society.

Like i said, ignore him, he really doesn't matter

Once again, I am happy for you that your husband is not Ibo!

oyinbo85:
too bad

please ignore him

As you may have guessed already, he is Ibo, they arent really Nigerians. Google Biafra. Ibos are Biafrans, not Nigerians.

Anyway, if he insults you one more time, report him to the mods.

People like him should be in the jungle, not among real people like you and me.

[quote author=Jenifa_ link=topic=582709.msg7538198#msg7538198 date=1295098931]I'm not saying there aren't students that could have passed if they studied harder. I'm sure there are many.
my point is that 80% fail rate is WAY to high to blame on careless students. something is wrong there.

even abroad in most schools schools (and i'm sure you probably know this), teachers know something is wrong when there is such a high fail rate. they scrap the scores and give students a chance to re-take the exam after going over the subject again to make sure student understand.
otherwise, they scale the grades.

are you saying students should self-teach themselves? so what's the point of going to school?
the fact that only a few students worked through past questions shouldn't lead to 80% fail rate. It just means that the high achievers that studied hardest will pass with flying colors while those that didn't study as hard will do averagely. Those that fail will be those that were not doing well in class. why should 80% not be doing well in class?

even in my primary school (I attended a good private school), the dumbest student in our class passed common entrance with above average scores because our teacher was preparing all of us for the exam from the beginning of pry6.

shouldn't illegal shortcuts lead to higher scores? which means that without illegal shortcuts, pass rates will have been lower which means that the situation is actually worse!![/quote]You must have taken your common entrance in Primary 7, init?

You attended  a private school in Lagos and you went up to primary 6, something sounds fishy my dear!

justwise:
Where did you read that from?

It is a well known truth!

justwise:
I face pple i consider human beings, sorry you are far from one, so i wouldn't waste my time with a 'thing'

Ok!

Just dont bring your thuggish behavior to NL. And, BTW, dont even try raping our oyinbo sister ok?

[quote author=Jenifa_ link=topic=582709.msg7538160#msg7538160 date=1295098416]I hear you. I didn't attend a rural secondary school so I don't know much abt that. so where do you get your own expert knowledge on rural schools? kobojunkie attended a school in a rural area anyway and she commented on her experience. I would like to see your respond to her post.

anyways, so explain to us in detail what your "peace corp" program vision is.  

[s]for me, I maintain that govt ought to do something about the primary school education because a good education foundation is the most important for life. Primary education should be priority. secondly, govt should invest more in sec. schools and develop a maintenance culture. you can't just build it and run away. Likewise, they should improve pay for teachers and also implement a monitoring system to track teacher performance.
[/s]
I really don't understand why you are so adamant in your opinion that govt doesn't need to do anything about the current education system. anyway sha[/quote]The government is already doing all of that.

Move over to the Romance section. You seem more adept in matters pertaining to romance than you are at with issues surrounding Naija's educational system.

justwise:
What do you know about Ibos?

Face me, I know a lot about Ibos

Dont intimidate our Oyinbo sisters

@Oyinbo, you see typical Ibo mentality? They are all just like this dimwit, justwise.

[quote author=Jenifa_ link=topic=582709.msg7538059#msg7538059 date=1295097086]eh sorry ma. in my days, there weren't cyber-cafes everywhere. pele ma binu. but exam scores weren't better either. I guess students were using other means of distraction.
[s]I think it will be nice to disaggregate the scores by school to help understand where the problem lies. Are queens college students doing better than command school students? are command school students doing better than gbagada girls local sec school students etc.

do you know the common entrance exam pass rates? ex. how many students meet the average cut off score?
I know there are higher cut off scores for federal schools like command and such. so that brighter students are selected in. Yea I know the schools don't have stellar infrastructure but the quality of education is most likely better and the quality of students also better local grammar schools. [/s]

maybe in your school, your classmates failed because they didn't set their priorities right.
but in mine, I can't blame them because many don't even have the potential to pass in the first place because they didn't get the proper education required starting from primary school. I'm sure your one month of cramming depended on stuff you have learned for years.

to me, our different experiences contribute our differing opinion on the subject matter.[/quote]POC: You dont have an opinion

You simply have no idea what you are talking about.

Talking about low quality students and talking about Queen's college in the same vein as Gbagada grammar school

The entrance exams for these schools are different and there is no way to compare all the schools you just mentioned.

So please, STFU and let people with better understanding talk about this issues!

tensor777:
Well don't assume if you have not actually seen rural schools in Nigeria. Just find out for yourself and compare and contrast in terms of qualifications of teaching staff.  By the way when I mention rural areas I am not referring to anywhere in Lagos State or even any of the small towns in Nigeria.

And no I did not attend a rural school in Nigeria as my first reply to you made clear.

Dont mind her

Her level of ignorance is bewildering.

I doubt she went to school in Nigeria.  The secondary school I attended was in a very rural area of Osun State and I can tell you that all our teachers were very well qualified, my chemistry teacher  is a well known person in his field throughout Nigeria. We did not have enough teachers, but they were all qualified.

She is just pulling stuff from thin air. I have a feeling she is mixed race who only spent a few years in Nigeria. She is just wrong and clueless.

bump!

^^^^

British?

Well, dont listen to Mrs. Chima, she is one disgruntled, dirty AA. No one likes them and all her fellow AAs are in jail, little wonder why she is married to a Nigerian.


Anyway, Oyinbo pepper, trust me the guy likes you and both of you, my oracle told me, are meant to be together. I am going to consult my oracle further on your case and I will let you know how it goes!

Is your husband Ibo? he sounds like an Ibo person and they are bad people. Any Nigerian tribe is good to marry, except Ibos; they practice cannibalism and he may try to use you for money making rituals. Also, it is customary in Iboland to have their first child killed. So be careful if he is Ibo.

googles:


its a new year Fstranger . . . be nice mahn

How have you been?


Just so you know, i am still interested in being your ARISTO, what say you?


Anyway, I will try to change this New Year, Thanks for your advice!

^^^

SO Someone like Sophie Oluwole of Unilag, is she Edo or Yoruba?

^^^^

Do you have one?

And how tight? The tighter the better

[quote author=Jenifa_ link=topic=585913.msg7536768#msg7536768 date=1295075332]next time, look for an ugly, figureless babe. abi? lol  
someone to match your bank account.

to me, girls go for money in the same[b] vein men go for looks[/b].
so both genders are shallow![/quote]Thats not true

I only look for someone with a puccy.

Everything else is secondary!

ola olabiy:
Look, OYB, thank you very much.[b] I spent 8 hours lecturing these spoilt/ajebo kids who are enscounced abroad [/b]what you have just said.

Thank you again

May be teaching is not your strongest area

You may be better off a s a pi-mp!

Atreides:
@Fstranger,this has nothing to do with colonial mentality/inferiority complex.

Yes, it has everything to do with colonial mentality. You have been programmed to feel as though the Queen's language is inherently better and superior to yours and for you to accept you VERY OWN leaders, they have to be as good in their usage of English language as , say Obama.

From Wiki: Colonial mentality; the concept essentially refers to the acceptance, by the colonised, of the culture or doctrines of the colonizer as intrinsically more worthy or superior.

I've said that being a good speaker isn't just about fancy words. It's about connecting with the people. It's about facial expressions that denote warmth. It's about eye contact. It's about words spoken in a confident,uplifting manner,words coming straight from the heart. These are qualitites our leaders DO NOT have.

This is what you wrote earlier: Which mother tongue? Nigeria is too diverse for that idea to fly. There are too many indigenous languages/ethnic groups in the country for that idea to be practical. There is no common mother tongue. Say Atiku speaks in Hausa. I'm not Hausa,so i won't understand him,and i don't think he can speak in Bini. English is our common language. It's what unites us,despite the different cultures and tribes in Nigeria. We've been speaking English for the past 50 years. Is it too much to ask that we develop some proficiency in it?
you seem to be flip-flopping on your message. Stay focused and come back with a better defense.

And how do we know that they'll be any better speaking in their native language?

Do you watch Nigerian movies t all? In terms of delivery which genre is better? The so called English ones or the Yoruba? The English ones struggle badly in delivering their lines, even the almighty Genny is guilty of that. Now, compare the best artiste in the English genre to the worst in the Yoruba industry and you'd see that the difference is just CRYSTAL clear. 

Now draw parallels with the political system if you could.

What do native languages have to do with eye contact,or warm facial expressions?

Confidence! Confidence! Confidence!!!  if you are confident in your grasp of the language you are communicating in, everything else falls in place smoothly.

A rose by any other name would smell as sweet. Who's to say a boring speaker in any other language wouldn't sound as boring?

Who is not to say that a boring speaker communicating in a foreign language wouldnt come alive if allowed to switch in his/her native language?

And the native language idea cannot work in Nigeria because we are too diverse.

Yes it can work.  Since you want them to speak like Obama, we can have them speak in their native langaugae and have someone versatile in both languages translate to the rest of the country

Win-Win situation  eh?  The 'said' politician is happy and you the listener wouldnt have to 'hit the sack' anytime they come on your flat screen.

If GEJ were to speak in Ijaw,how many people would understand him?

About 20 million people. Not a small number right? i bet you did not know that. You prolly thought the world revolves around you.

He's not just the president of the Ijaw people,he's the president of whole country and he has the responsibility to speak in a language we all can understand.

Not everyone can speak and understand English. I have uncles who can neither speak nor write in the Queen's language. And i know a lot of people who are not good with English, my mother is one of them . Just because you happen to belong to the lucky few who can understand the language, you feel it right to alienate the rest of us. Isnt that selfish of you?  If we all acted the same way in other areas of our nationhood, where would you be today?

[quote author=eku_bear link=topic=582709.msg7536622#msg7536622 date=1295071875]^-- So you've given up on Project Nigeria? 

You will while away your days in luxury and splendor in the US? Never to return to the land of your ancestors? Proly grab yourself a redbone too and name your son Tyrone, or something   

Alas! 

[size=4pt](i'm mostly joking)[/size][/quote]Nah, I plan on going back once i am done paying my ridiculous student loan. I havent given up on project Nigeria. I still want to be a senator some day, milk the ND of its oil.    .     .   you know what i am talking about!

SEFAGO:
Hmmm . . .maybe someone should start a TFN (Teach for Nigeria) organization and deploy nigeiran graduates to teach in rural areas for two years in places like the North lol

fstranger probably will not survive NYSC and will try his best to serve in lagos or abuja

Very funny

I survived the country for 19 years, what makes you think I wont survive NYSC

You know, I am as rugged as you can get.

I stand kampe for anything that may come my way.

I really missed it and i wish i had priorities right after college.

But eh, who needs NYSC when you can always get a fake discharge certificate.lol!

[quote author=eku_bear link=topic=582709.msg7536524#msg7536524 date=1295069541]Do you plan on doing your youth service, @fstranger? Or skipping out?[/quote]Like you know already, I did not do it and I dont see myself going back after I am done with my professional training.

When i graduated from college it was the last thingy on my mind, but my brother is doing it after college.

And yes, I am skipping out unfortunately.

But I have loads of friends who did it. My father did it and a lot of uncles and they all loved it. I have friends posting pictures on Facebook and making positive commentary about the program. So I know what I am talking about.

[quote author=Jenifa_ link=topic=582709.msg7536472#msg7536472 date=1295068514]well implemented by who? as far as i'm concerned, it is a US implemented program not a Nigerian one. US isn't going to deploy a mass of volunteer american teachers to Nigeria just because we ask. I really don't know what kool-aid you and tensor are on.[/quote]Again, Nigeria does not need a mass volunteer of peace corp members. What we need is a few well trained personnel capable of delivering effective teaching to both the teachers and the students. Some sort of on the job training that is practical and efficient. Train a teacher, and the teacher can go on to teach hundred teachers. The biggest peoblem with WAEC, it seems yo do not understand is English language. People fail it at an astronomical rate. At my secondary school, out of 385 students that registered for WAEC, only 12 of us made C6 and above, a 3% pass rate, and that was 11 years ago.

Many English teachers cannot write two paragraphs of errorless English. It is not that their brains are smaller than those of their predecessors. It is simply that today, even teachers know less. And you can’t give what you don’t have. It is the ones we are teaching now that will become teachers tomorrow. Many Nigerians have fallen into a kind of cultural and linguistic crack. It’s a terrible chasm; they know neither English nor the indigenous language. If you don’t have the mastery of a language, how can you write in it? And it feeds forward, making them fail other subjects because they have problems thinking about Science in a language they neither understand nor comprehend.

I am also a local ESL teacher. This isn't substitute for real education. besides, who will be able to measure my impact? who can monitoring me to see if i'm teaching well or not if i am a volunteer?

No one on this thread as brought up ESL and it is very silly of you to equate ESL with real education. The problem is not with the brain of the Child and the educational system is not as bad as some people would like us to believe. Peace corp can go along way in helping students with after school homework and what have you. Even in the US, there is private tutoring and all sorts of help for the student. Peace-corp can help with this and learning English language form a native speaker can only help, not hurt.

The fact that you don't believe me tells a lot.
I tell you WAEC wasn't in our vocabulary in JSS3 a month before. no teacher ever came into our class to tell us we had an exam to prepare for.

It is either you are lying or you just wrote that to save face. Even the most uninformed student would tell you that they knew about junior WAEC long before the sat for it. And, BTW, the school make you register for it and per WAEC requirement, registration is done months and months before you sit for it.

i'm sure atreides will also be surpised to learn that majority of JSS3 students in naija don't have access to the smartphones, 24/7 facebook and YIM etc that shes blaming to be the cause of the high fail rate.

Again, you are highly misinformed. Your condescending and arrogant attitude isnt that sexy, you know. Ever heard of cybercafes? Its now in every nook and cranny of Nigeria. And, yes, Atreides is right with her analysis.

you guys just happen to be the privileged minority.

Well, i went to a poorly funded state school in the middle of nowhere and fortunately for my luck the school was situated right in the middle of  a battle zone. And despite that, I knew, as were my classmates, about junior WEAC right from JSS1. So i am not one of the "privileged few," that is even if you understand the meaning of the phrase with regards to its  contextual applicability to Nigeria

[s]but of course you know all about the education system. Even politicians whose kids are schooling abroad are the ones deciding our education policies. they know better than those who experienced it.
why isn't it surprising?[/s]

Kobojunkie:
Preach it  . . . lol

If I may add, Nigeria cannot afford an additional Program, let alone a Peace Corp program. lol . We already have the NYSC which some argue is a useless waste of people's time and money as is.

Back in the days, one used to be proud to serve in the Corp (NYSC) but again(back to the same old reason), due to neglect mostly on the part of Government, the NYSC program has become more of a bore and  a waste of time for our graduates. Many rarely gain much experience from the program today.

Speak for yourself Madam Kobojunkie

Everyone I know who did it loved it and appreciated it, and would gladly do it again if given the opportunity.

There is difference between the peace-corp and the NYSC, both in orientation and objective,  and any attempt to compare or equate the two, IMO, is nothing but a deliberate attempt at subverting the truth.

I dont know who you talk to, but speak for yourself and stick to facts, not sentiments. You may have had bad experiences in Naija, some of us did not, and we still see something good about the country and are willing to help out, not just criticizing unnecessarily.