Tamass:

Thank you bro am not hausa by tribe anyways. The problem is they want to live up to the expectations of the whites

Yeah it's a severe mental sickness amongst some Nigerians.

[quote author=ELKHALIFAISIS post=60914711][/quote]

I can't really quote your entire post because it's quite lengthy since it's a combination of my post and your own. If after this discourse I don't change your mind, then you are free to stick to your views. We can respectively agree to disagree.

Clothing does not make the man or a woman. Someone with a modernised mindset would know and acknowledge that. If I wore a suit over a Babban riga, would I not be the same person? How does wearing something different change who I am as an individual?

I consider myself quite modernised. I'm relatively young, (younger than 35), and I have studied Computer Science extensively both at school and with my spare time. I am up to date with technology.

Being technologically acculturated does not coalesce into being White-washed..I tell you, I wear the same clothes to study and I'm still the same man.

Giving up ones culture shows a sign of weakness and inferiority complex. I was born a Sahelian and will die as one. I'm not a white man nor would I want to become one. Some Nigerians do, not me.

ELKHALIFAISIS:
I'm not trying to be Westerner , but our dressing should be in moderate way, I combined my native attire and Western attire and it make me look appealing ... not everyday caftans or turban like masquerade

Haha, I laugh in Fulfulde. How did you manage to do that?

It is a great thing that culture is not a monolith, if it was, what a boring world this would be. I respect other people's culture(s), I expect them to return the same level of respect towards my own.

I do not know what God you believe in or if you believe in God at all (If you do not believe in God that is fine, I respect that as well). But the way I was raised and brought up was that we are all equal. No one is superior or inferior to anyone else regardless of where they come/hail from. Be it a man or woman living in the Andaman Islands in India wearing practically nothing, or a nomad being proud of their respective turban(s).

Be happy that the world is as colorful as it is instead of wishing for certain cultures to change and become more white-washed/westernised.

abdulkayus:


Guy, u are intelligent. Am impress with u and volks to and fro argument, it is educative. And also u guys shut down the haters with ur superiority comments

Thanks bros!

I can't really say I have had culture shocks, except for the racism in America towards African people which was not a surprise to me as I do read the news and know what happens around the world.

ELKHALIFAISIS:
rather I called wardrobe
malfunctions

That's your opinion, if you want to be westernised and white-washed, you are free to live in the West.

laudate:


Exactly!! What a superb response. You just took the words out of my mouth.

Thanks bros, I'm just tired of Nigerian inferiority complex to Whites...and some Nigerian men on these forums wonder why Nigerian women are starting to pursue white guys.....They bring it upon themselves.

VomeSchakleton:


Yeah, like turkey iran seems very westernized for a muslim nation. However the iranian traditional outfit even if they have abandoned it consists of a turban or like you said a cap. There are also persians in pakistan known as pashtuns. As for aladdin, i think africans should claim him too

You are absolutely correct dear brother. Also @the bolded ROFLLLLLL

ELKHALIFAISIS:
which self esteem precisely the world is moving we should move with the world, even Saudi king no longer dress this way

Arabs dress in a far different manner. How one dresses is not didactic of how modernised a group of people are. To perceive that Western clothing in any way is superior to Sahelian clothing shows a sign of massive inferiority complex.

VomeSchakleton:


Being mixed doesn't take away anything fron your identity, the spanish cant deny moorish/arab admixture and yet they're still what they are, spanish. Some markers are unique, for instance the e1b1b i think its called for somalis which is unique to them and other horners. Given the location and nomadic nature of fulanis its very plausible, likely even that theres admixture between them and these groups. But i like what you said in the end, you cant claim anything but what you are. In fact these people will hate or reject you regardless. Like the sudanese arabs in saudi that are fooling themselves while their hosts look down on them. Shame.

Exactly! I have no problem with admixtures, it's just that it would definitely have to go back centuries if not millennia ago. If there is an admixture of Amazighen within the Fulbe in Nigeria and Niger (I am not sure about the other countries) it would have to possibly come from the Kel-Tamasheq (Touaregs) or in the case of Senegal and Mauritania, the Saharawi due to our close proximity to them.

VomeSchakleton:


Look at his moniker, clearly a troll.

ROFL you are right

ELKHALIFAISIS:
bros u no dey wish me well... u won make I suffocate jeso Christi

I wish you very well . Don't knock it if you have not tried it hahahaha. It is actually quite comfortable and it boosts your self-esteem and confidence.

VomeSchakleton:


Thats interesting what you say about persians because most tend lean towards them in the turban debate. And persians (iranians) definitely wear turbans. In the end i don't even know why people argue or fight so passionately about these things. Another debate is the aladdin debate between indians and arabs, Lol! People can be so sensitive sometimes.

Most Iranians (Persian) as Iran is a nation comprised of various ethnicities just like Nigeria are quite Westernised and wear Western clothing. Some of them like the Ayatollah may wear a Turban, or some of the Imam, however the majority of Iranians if you look at their day to day lives love the West and wish to be like the West. The Persians in Afghanistan (Dari) may only wear what you call "hula" in Hausa.

In regards to Aladdin, I know a lot of Persians that claim him as well

ELKHALIFAISIS:
abeg I won ask question... how do this people breath with this masquerade look alike turban despite the scorching hot weather in that desert part of Nigeria, abeg the turban dey carry air-condition inside high time they come out of this outdated Royal regalia... even Saudi king no dey wear this kind thing again... TUFIAKWA

Maybe you should give it a try, it's not as terrible as you think.

SalamRushdie:
The OP is clearly a Kogi woman pretending to be Hausa Fulani..

The OP is not even Nigerian....She is African American. Look at her name lol. Also what is a Hausa-Fulani?

VomeSchakleton:


Yes, you are indeed very diverse even phenotypically, case and point theres this british gambian musician called j hus, opposite of the stereotypical fulani look but i think he is, many like him too in that region so theres no denying your diversity.

I know that about the touaregs thats why i grouped you with them. I am indeed hausa, yes. Did i give you the impression that i wasnt at some point?

Actually i recall seeing the dna result of a fulani man from taraba, he had 16% north african (probably berber or touareg), 3% middle eastern and 1% percent european (italian/sicilian) admixture and i'm sure this admixture will be heavier for "purer" fulanis like you. You definitely should give the whole dna ancestry thing a try.

Call me stubborn, however, I believe that whilst It is possible for Fulani to have "admixture" it does not necessarily mean we are mixed. Human genetics are very difficult to understand. Why? point being is that with how genetically diverse different groups of people are worldwide, we can not automatically assume that particular markers come from somewhere.

North African is a very "broad" term. North Africa of today for instance was not North Africa 5000 to 10000 years ago. The DNA markers found there today, will be different from what we may have found 10,000 years ago.

I will find time one of these days to take a DNA test, though it is not on top of my list. I'm a Nigerian man, a Fulani man and an African.

onila:


you like it over there

There are good and bad about every place in the world. In Nigeria, and most African nations, I can be myself. I can wear whatever I want to wear, I can speak my language with pride, and I can just be myself.

In America, I have to do my best to speak "their way", I have to face racism. I have to be mocked for being an African. I can NOT wear what I want to wear.

onila:


nope

Ok, so you are abroad, fine! However, many Africans are proud to be African and would rather rebuild from within.

stuffs4me:


OP, you must be the president of Association of DUMB people.

Their is nothing like Fulani or Hausa turban. Turban is worn by Muslims all over the world.

You are just a typical f00lish husa/Fulani woman that thinks Islam is only for Hausa/Fulani tribe.

Travel out of your little hamlet and see millions of devoted Muslims with turbans.

Don't be dumb and ridiculous. Her name is NafeesaAA, she's obviously African American. No need to insult my ethnic group. Do it again, and I will ban you.

VomeSchakleton:


Yes, the infamous and seemingly immortal kano dye pits. i believe hausas call it "Alasho". My best bet would be the touaregs or the fulbe (you may not agree but you have significant berber mixture, more so than arab like most believe), this is due to these ethnic groups proximity to the middle east where i believe inspiration for this and other sahelian outfits came from. Of course our outfits vastly differs from theirs today.


Reminiscent of the persians, indians and arabs laying claim to ownership of the turban.

In regards to Persians, I do not think they wear Turbans.

Amongst Indians, it's mainly the Sikh or Punjabi that mainly wear Turbans, and their Turban wearing style is different. Though I have seen Fulani in Sudan wear Turbans in a similar manner. Arabs on the other hand, also wear Turbans in a different way.

The truth is, no one knows where Turbans originate from. Westerners can continue to speculate, but they will be wrong in doing so.

VomeSchakleton:


Yes, the infamous and seemingly immortal kano dye pits. i believe hausas call it "Alasho". My best bet would be the touaregs or the fulbe (you may not agree but you have significant berber mixture, more so than arab like most believe), this is due to these ethnic groups proximity to the middle east where i believe inspiration for this and other sahelian outfits came from. Of course our outfits vastly differs from theirs today.


Reminiscent of the persians, indians and arabs laying claim to ownership of the turban.

That's not necessarily true either as the Fulbe (Fulani) are a very diverse group of people. Often mixing is seen as woda, or taboo. Being amongst your own in most Fulani cultures is seen as woodi or good. So the thing is, most settled Fulani may have some admixture, however Nomadic Fulbe like the Wodaabe (a subgroup of the Mbororo'en) have little to no admixture due to the fact of how mixing is seen.

In regards to Touaregs themselves, they are a sub group of Berbers and true Berbers at that since they live in the desert, not like the so-called Berbers living on the Mediterranean coast. Btw, aren't you Hausa? I recall you telling me that you are.

Most Fulani have little to no admixture contrary to what most people think. West Africa is not a monolithic region.

aumeehn:
Alhamdulillah Noi Abj i hope everything do dilla normal.

Dunniyaaru ndu nder Abuja? jam e an bo, noy saroobe ma?

onila:


life is hard here

no time to build

Are you still here? as in within the continent?

GarbaAudu:

Gbam! You took the words from my mouth.
Actually I've wanted to correct her before I saw ur post. Nothing whatsoever like Fulani or Hausa turban. Turban originated from Tuaregs & Arabs from the Maghreb region.

I don't think it originated from Touaregs and Arabs, however, we can agree that there is NOTHING whatsoever like Fulani or Hausa style of wearing a Turban. When I wear a Turban, I do not make the top ends pointy.

VomeSchakleton:


Its interesting where this originated from because i can remember a certain pagan friend of ours sharing the same information.

The Touareg way (Tamasheq way) for saying Turban is "Tagelmust" and often they wear Indigo dyed Turbans, which the HAUSA created. So going back to hundreds if not thousands of years ago, it's hard to say where the Turbans originated for Sahelians. Fulanis have worn them for Millennia, Hausa have worn them for millennia, and Touareg have worn them for millennia. It is fact however that most of the Turbans or Tagelmust that the Kel-Tamasheq wear are indeed made by Hausa people.

The information being spread in this thread is EXTREMELY wrong. Fulani turbans are not different from Hausa or Touareg ones. Maybe the way some people wear it, however they are not different.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8vQ1w-I04I&

There are many ways people wear Turbans, please how did this make front page?

Why should all Africans move abroad instead of building up their own respective nations? Please give that a thought.

aumeehn:
Allah hokke jam barkama a don bo??

Amiin dedirawo, Allah hokke ma! Barka ma! jam palam, e an bo? A don jam? Noy kugal?

Find work in something you like. If you don't like your current field of work, find something else that is worthwhile.

bluetrails7:



I share many values with you so i'mma spill it. The right woman is not the woman in our imaginations but the one we find and mould into what we like. Which implies that we can fall in love with whoemever we choose. I PRO science, chemistry, biology etc, but you dn't have to speak in like terms to the lady you love to feel comfortable. All you need is a onewith High I.Q. and you can hit the ground running without been bored. I can share some tips since it looks like we have a lot in common. I can chat up a woman for up to 6 months without getting bored. I can share some tips. I believe you will do better chatting with a woman through the internet than in person. Why not cash in on this? Yes, we all want a medical doctor wife, it's typical adolescent male fantasy, but it's high time to come out of lala land. You can fall in love with any woman and if you're both ready and willing to work together,you can build an amazing home, sometimes you need someone who's not in your field to marvel at your intelligence than someone who has some understanding of what you intend to say, think or act. Don't you think?

Take off the self imposing limitations, focus on finding chis, like three talk to them and before you finish you'll end up liking one. I can recommend you some here to try to chat up...What do you think? I can share you insights on how never to run out of conversations with a woman,...

I will respond to you in detail a bit later. But you have a good thought process about you bros.

urahara:


I hope so too

LOLLLLL

urahara:




These Fulani women are truly the worlds most beautiful women.

There are tooooo fine

Thank you bros