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MaxInDHouse:
Are you saying there are no members of your friends like Oyedepo, Adeboye and Kumuyi in the army?
Or you are saying such members aren't believers?🙂

I don't know. All I know is that those who go to war are soldiers. You can then verify them to know if they're members of Oyedepo, Kumuyi and others.

MaxInDHouse:
Are there military men in Deeperlife, RCCG and WINNERS CHAPEL?

During wars do such individuals listen to their pastors orders or their military commanders?

I remember a deeperlifer after watching a documentary of casualties and horrible sights of widows and orphans after a war asked me what God will do when worshipers fights and kill their fellow believers during wars!🙂

Believers don't go to wars. Only soldiers do.

MaxInDHouse:
Now it's clear you are deceiving yourself because you know that when it comes to the love Jesus commanded his disciples to have it doesn't mean there won't be criminals among them just as you can see among first century disciples of Christ but there is no way either NATIONALISM, TRIBALISM OR RACISM can divide them.
I will tell you why JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are able to do this thing.

In all other religions once you cross the bother to another nation an individual is confused not knowing to whom they should be loyal since different nations have different rulers but among JWs Jesus is our one and only ruler so when the president of a country orders those under him to go and kill people from other nations neither deeperlife, rccg or winner chapel leader can stop them from fighting and killing their fellow worshipers in those countries but JWs will rather lay down our lives than raising weapons against our neighbors or fellow believers.
Because that is the command Jesus our king gave us!
"You must love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no other commandment greater than these.” Mark 12:31

"I am giving you a new commandment, that you love one another; just as I have loved you, you also love one another. By this all will know that you are my disciples—if you have love among yourselves.” John 13:34-35

As for criminality that comes from traits having to do with our sinful nature it has nothing to do with general command from our Master Lord and King Christ Jesus! John 15:14🙂

We love one another and infact all humans more than you guys can ever do. You're all just hypocrites.

So, teaching your members to love and appreciate believers in other countries while committing crimes and misleading people without ever repenting is what you rejoice about?

And who tells you these guys don't teach love? Nobody has more hatred and wickedness than the JWs! I remember how you were rigorously defaming me sometimes ago based on false allegations! Is that love? Not even Muslims or atheists on this forum defamed me like you did. By their fruits, you will know them!

I can prove by my interactions with you in the platform that you have no love. No single shred of it.

I have attached screenshots of few Love messages by Adeboye, Kumuyi and Oyedepo in that order as proofs.

MaxInDHouse:
Are you sure that nationalism, tribalism and racism can't divide those following these guys?🙂

It doesn't erase the fact that your organization is a criminal organization.

MaxInDHouse:
I love the way you mentioned these guys.
Now tell me which of them has taught their members to love and appreciate their fellow believers in other countries? John 13:34-35
Because it's obvious you don't know what makes Jehovah's Witnesses the one and only true Christian organization!🙂

So, teaching your members to love and appreciate believers in other countries while committing crimes and misleading people without ever repenting is what you rejoice about?

And who tells you these guys don't teach love? Nobody has more hatred and wickedness than the JWs! I remember how you were rigorously defaming me sometimes ago based on false allegations! Is that love? Not even Muslims or atheists on this forum defamed me like you did. By their fruits, you will know them!

I have attached screenshots of few Love messages by Adeboye, Kumuyi and Oyedepo in that order as proofs.

immortalcrown:
What happens to freedom of worship? Doesn't that pastor know that his right ends where another person's right begins? That pastor operates with Sharia mentality. Only Sharia encourages people to attack and kill any person or thing that does not align with their faith.

Christianity preaches tolerance and endurance. In Christianity, souls are not one with violence but with love. The Bible teaches us not to force ourselves unto those who do not want the gospel. Jesus Christ told his disciples to quickly leave any place where they are not accepted. Even Christ himself does not force himself into our lives. He says in the Bible that he stands at the door of our heart and knocks and will come in only if we open our hearts.

By the way, why is the pastor hiding instead of responding to the invitation? Let him show himself so that his "Jesus" will protect him. I put the word in quotes because the Jesus I know is not in support of forcing people to repent.. He has Jesus power and he has not tried using it to end bad government.

Thanks for the enlightenment.

Infact, the true God does not force anyone to serve Him. He'll judge them at the end of their lives anyway? Why kill someone today when he could repent tomorrow? That's how you know Sharia is from Satan himself.

Why should Allah be forced on anyone to whom Allah has done nothing deserving? Someone who does not even know who Allah is. Someone with whom Allah has no prior relationship.

God first did a lot for the Israelites to show them He is the true God. Then, entered into a covenant with them and continued to prove Himself to them by parting the red sea, pulling down the walls of Jericho, destroying the enemies of Israel, and showing them numerous signs and wonders. Only after that was anyone who derailed from following the God of Israel becomes an offender, because he was breaking a covenant. And that was just for Israel alone. Not for the whole world to whom God had not shown Himself at the time. And, even before anyone is sentenced, there's going to be a thorough investigation and a sitting court of fair hearing.

The sharia prophet just copied the punishment part without considering the precedence and modalities. They go on rampage violently taking lives and destroying communities for not serving Allah their unknown god. How can you force a god on me whom I do not know? A god that has not done anything for me deserving of my worship. A god with whom I have no prior covenant!

This Ezekiel of a pastor is a sharia pastor and does not in anyway represent Christianity.

Bro, Please correct the bolded in your post. Thank you .

MaxInDHouse:
Real Christianity doesn't go by deeds of imperfect humans otherwise Peter and Judah both closest confidants of Jesus shouldn't have been found wanting.
So think well before banking on deeds of imperfect humans to condemn pure worship otherwise you should condemn Jesus too after all nah him we dey follow therefore if there are flaws in the attitude of his CLOSEST CONFIDANTS no reasonable individual should expect perfection from those imitating him!🤣

Hahaha. The same guy that immediately jumps on threads when there's allegation about one pastor somewhere to condemn Christianity as a whole is how claiming ', imperfect humans'. What's hypocrisy called again?

Max, rest. We cannot be talking about imperfect humans' for an organization that has more than a century year old if lies, deceits, false prophecies, false doctrines, crimes, etc. These are not attributes of imperfect Christians. They're that of regular unbelievers, deceivers, impostors and agents of Satan.

A righteous man falls seven times and rises up again (Proverbs 24:16). An unrighteous man falls a thousand times and never rises up. He doesn't ever retrace his steps. He never make amends. He never apologizes for misleading people.

See for example, the recent new doctrine reversals of your cult. Men can now wear beards. JWs can now receive blood transfusion. Did the apologize for the wrong of the past? No! Did they acknowledge that many people have died from their wrong doctrines? No! I will start taking you serious when you show me their apology from verified sources. A righteous man falls seven times and rises up again! Apology means true repentance. And that's the Hallmark of Christianity. You can fail because you are frail. But repent, and God will give you strength.

Adeboye, Oyedepo, Kumuyi, etc are not perfect men. They have come out openly to apologize for wrong past perceptions of doctrines. That's true Christianity.

Peter failed but he repented. He cried bitterly and asked for forgiveness. Judas Iscariot never repented. You see the difference?

Sit down Max, let's teach you the true Word of God. The Honky Spirit will guide you into the still waters of the Word of God.

And, the first things first, my friend. You must be born again.

MaxInDHouse:
Peter denied Jesus three consecutive times, Judas Iscariot sold Jesus for money and both of them are the foremost disciples of Jesus.
Does that mean wisdom failed Jesus?🤣

You should answer your own question. Nobody is discussing Peter and Judas Iscariot with you!

Truthseeker10:
This is not the reply to my latest post.

I have not seen your supposed last mention, can you mention me again on it?

MaxInDHouse:
Exactly what Jesus said you will say about his group:
“A student is not above his teacher, nor a slave above his master. It is enough for the student to become as his teacher, and the slave as his master. If people have called the master of the house Be·elʹze·bub, how much more those of his household?" Matthew 10:24-25
Oya present your own church let's see what your doctrine has produced among you! Matthew 7:16-18🙂

Mtcheww.

You mean wisdom failed your 11 masters in the USA, that's why it failed you too?

SarcasticWords:
LOL

Well said Brotherly. It can be really stressful and enervating discussing with someone who has deliberately decided not to make use of his thinking faculty.

If you engage with them you waste energy and get tired. If you keep them quiet, they get angry that you ignored them in a thread.

Well done for all your write-up.

Thanks bro.

You're actually spot on. They're deliberately deceptive. They'll see something clearly in the Bible and pretend it's not there. They prefer to hold on to doctrines that have no biblical basis. If you punch them hard with Scriptures, they'll start dribbling you in such a very mischievous manner. They have no integrity whatsoever.

Truthseeker10:
Lol....so you have spirit but Jesus on earth did not have spirit that was why the father was greater than him?

Are you a child? What type of talk is this? Very unintelligent comment.
Can't you see? You don't have spirit that's why your spirit is greater than your body? See how that sounds?

So the robber did not know who Yahweh was, but you claimed he needed to know Yahweh to be saved?

Another unintelligent comment. If you don't understand simple English, please ask clarifying questions or go back to school! How does Jesus not telling him everything translate to "the robber does not know who Yahweh was"?

Your organization didn't want you guys to be intelligent so that you won't spot their lies with critical thinking; so they discouraged university education to make you their easy captives. You better wake up!

have countered your paganism screenshot with the Greek meaning of "hen". So where was essence mentioned in the meaning of "hen" both in John 17:21 and John 10:30? Is it not the same "hen" that is used in both verses with evidence below?

Go back to all my previous comment. Read slowly, connect the dots, and digest them well before you come here to spew gibberish.

If I find you consistently unintelligent in your comments, I'll just put you aside.

All what you've said before were gibberish. You claimed that Jesus sitting on the Father's throne means that he is the father. You also claimed that those who overcome will sit at Jesus' throne whom you claim is the father. So kindly do the calculation

What's difficult for you to comprehend in this?

Buhari was president and minister of petroleum at he same time. If he tells you he sits in the president's office, and that you would also sit with him in the ministerial office, does that bring you any conflict?

Truthseeker10:
So have you seen the father?

Yes, I have seen Him in my spirit, and have an active ongoing relationship with Him.

You claimed that we need to know Yahweh to be saved according to John 17:3. You claimed that Jesus told the robber that he was the son of Yahweh. You are also claiming that Jesus is the same person as Yahweh. Did Jesus tell the robber that He was Yahweh?

The robber needn't know everything to be saved.

Where is "essence" found in the Greek meaning of "hen" that I showed you

Go read the screenshots I shared with you on that.

All what you've said above is gibberish. You claimed that Jesus sitting on the Father's throne means that he is the father. You also claimed that those who overcome will sit at Jesus' throne whom you claim is the father. So kindly do the calculation.

Stop repeating incoherent questions like a robot. Use your head for once and revise all the answers I have provided you on this same question.

MaxInDHouse:
He who has no place to stay can decide to call the most beautiful MANSION a DUNGEON nah.
Abeg ask am where he dey live!🤣

Hahaha. That's a very unwise saying.

It's the other way round. He who has no place to stay, would call the dungeon a beautiful mansion.

Wisdom failed you because you're inebriated with very toxic doctrines of demons.

MaxInDHouse:
All that nah STORY!
That's why you can't present any better performing group than JWs you can only carry false accusations and rumors in your head.🤣

Mtcheww.
.
I have shown you several times that your group is a criminal group. You're even afraid to challenge to an evidence.

Abeg go sit down !

Truthseeker10:
was Jesus talking to Paul in John 14:9?

He was talking to everyone of us. "Whatsoever I have said to you, I say to all." Mark 13:17.

is it not knowing YAHWEH again that leads to salvation according to John 17:3 that you explained? Did Jesus teach Paganism about Yahweh?
Did you see "essence" In the Greek word "hen" that I showed you in the screenshot?

What's the difference between knowing Yahweh and knowing Jesus?

All what you've said above is gibberish. You claimed that Jesus sitting on the Father's throne means that he is the father. You also claimed that those who overcome will sit at Jesus' throne whom you claim is the father. So kindly do the calculation.

Your comprehension cannot grasp it.eagr it dear.

For one last time.

Jesus reigns in the universe through the Father or as the Father. The Father reigns on earth through Jesus or as Jesus.

Same person different manifestations. The throne in heaven is called the Father's throne. The throne on earth is called Jesus' throne. Jesus.

Just as the seat of judgment for the whole works is called The White Throne Judgement. Presided over by the Father. And the seat of judgment for all believers is calmed the Judgement seat of Christ.

However, the Father is Judge of both the world and believers. Jesus is Judge of both the world and believers.

May God open your closed understanding.

MaxInDHouse:
You are really funny my guy!🙂
In the first century a man sold his friend out for money.
And guess what?
He is one of the closest confidants of a man who claims to be the perfect teacher ever on this planet!
Another man denied his friend he even laid curses on himself swearing never to have seen him before.
And guess what?
He is also one of the closest confidants of the same man.
Another man was sleeping with his step mom and can you believe that he is also one of the followers of this same man?
Well these are verified blunders committed by Jesus' friends in the first century apart from numerous lies that people lied against him and his group.
So if you were alive in the first century and you've heard all of these would you still believe that this man is the only begotten Son of God and that only his followers can have everlasting life?🙂

Abeg, leave story.

Ask me for evidences of your crimes, ever changing revelations, failed prophecies of your false prophets, and your many other infractions.

Be bold and make the challenge. What are you afraid of?

Truthseeker10:
was it not flesh and blood that the disciples were seeing?

Only the blind see only flesh and blood. Hear Paul:

"So we have stopped evaluating others from a human point of view. At one time we thought of Christ merely from a human point of view. How differently we know him now."

See as you are trying every means to take your face away from the fact that Jesus clearly said "Flesh and blood has not revealed this to you" while asking"Who do people say that I am?". You clearly don't want to see that Jesus wants us to see beyond His earthly make into His heavenly personality. When He was transfigured on the mountain of transfiguration, did The transfigure into flesh?

Lol...look at this hypocrites who wanted to convince me with paganism ideas to accept his teachings only for him to denounce his reference. So millions of Catholics and Pentecostal churches who believe that YAHWEH is three persons are going to Lose their salvation because of paganism?

Are you the one that'll grant them salvation or make them loose their salvation?

Oga below in the screenshot is the Greek word "hen" in both John 10:30 and John 17:21. Do they mean different things? Show me where "essence" is present in the meaning.
All what you'en above is gibberish. You claimed that Jesus sitting on the Father's throne means that he is the father. You also claimed that those who overcome will sit at Jesus' throne whom you claim is the father. So kindly do the calculation.

If you still cannot comprehend ties simple truth in spite of all the analogies I have given you, then, it's left to you!

Christ has a throne in heaven and earth. The scriptures say so! There's the Father's throne upon which Christ claims to sit with Father. It is called the Father's throne for a reason. That's the throne that rules the entire universe.

Then, there's a human throne in the new Jerusalem also belonging to Christ. It is Christ's throne from where He rules the earth. He promised over owners to rule with Him. The scriptures says "if we suffer,we shall also reign with Him."

If you still can't get it, then forget it. You can stick with your satanic doctrines. The end will tell.

Sheuns:
Na Kangaroo award? Cause there’s no where in the post that mentioned who gave the award.

A simple click on the Source attached by the OP returned an error page.

Bad Belle dey cause diarrhea.

See screenshots as news full ground.

SarcasticWords:
chai! this wan go pain am o

Good questions by the way.

Lol. Thanks bro.

It did pain him indeed. He even had to call me 'crooked heart" to show his frustration.

Your guys was right!

MaxInDHouse:
Surely your crooked heart will not allow you to grasp the truth!

But for the benefit of sincere followers of this thread:

Whatever you think about this group remains invalid until you are able to present another group that's performing globally as peace loving worshipers {Isaiah 2:4} because that is the only evidence pointing to Jesus as the world's most wonderful counselor of all time {Isaiah 9:6} therefore they are serving as WITNESSES {Act 1:8} to the fact that they've been counseled by this wonderful counselor to make love lead them into settling their disparities peacefully among themselves! John 13:34-35

Kikikikiki.

So, you think the people of this forum are empty in the brains?

Your proof of between performing group is your peace loving worshippers. I thought you'll say your proof of best performing group is that there's no evidence of crime and other infractions. I expected you to challenge me to bring evidence. I would have even joined my respected brothers, Courz and Achorladey into the challenge as these people have tons of evidences against you.

You left the evidence based challenge to focus on peace loving. Hahaha. That means you're saying, "We commit crimes but we're peace loving, so we're the best performing." How does that sound to you? Weird!

Hey, there are millions of peace loving groups in the world who have committed no crimes, neither is any form of allegation leveled against them. These millions of groups are far better than your organization, and sorry to say, some of them are not even religious.

A Jew will say what you are saying now no matter what you show him or her in the new testament hinging on things their people told them.

But there is only one way to silence any Jew who refuses to believe that Jesus of Nazareth is the Christ:

Ask him if the Christ will come when all their people has been scattered all over the world or assembled to welcome him.
Ask him when the prophet to prepare the way of the Christ will appear.
Ask him if there has been any prophet that met the criteria mentioned in their scriptures.

Of course he or she will not know what to say other than tell you they are still waiting for their Christ.

So before you speak against any group think of those doing the work Jesus assigned to his disciples and gathering peace lovers everywhere they go.🙂

Abeg, go and sit down!

Jesus committed no crime. No crime was pinned on Him. Even at the point of His serve sentencing and execution , He was declared innocent. Your organization on the other hand, is a confirmed criminal organization.

Truthseeker10:
So the Jesus that the disciples saw on earth did not have flesh and blood?

So, the Jesus that the disciples saw on earth was limited to flesh and blood?

Interesting. Below in the screenshot is also the Trinitarian view of the Father son and holy spirit not being the same person. I have also helped you with some screenshot below so that you will not be ignorant. You would be an hypocrite if you do not agree with the screenshot since you brought a Trinitarian view to prove your false teaching

Stop lying, tell me where I ever made reference to trinitarians in all my discussions with you. Is that not how you guys fail exams. I gave you a screenshot to show what the word ',Ben's implied in context. Even if the screenshot mentioned trinitarianism, you should focus on the 'hen' discussion, and clarify if I hold a trinitarian view before attributing that to me.

I have always told trinitarians that their view of 3 distinct persons is paganism and has no support in Scripture.

Oga you claimed Jesus sitting on the Father's throne means that he is the father. You also claimed that those who overcome will seat on Jesus throne whom you claim is the father. So why are you fighting yourself and confusing yourself?

You're the one fighting yourself and confusing yourself if you cannot understand that God can be multiple persons in one. The idea is clearly illustrated by the spirit, soul and body of man. Your soul can be somewhere while your body is elsewhere. People have seen themselves in places different from where their bodies are. What makes it seem impossible for you to realize that God can be in sevetal places at the same time in different form?

The same Jesus told you that wherever 2 or more are gathered in His name, He is there. Currently as we type, there are millions of 2 or more gatherings in Jesus' name all over the world, and He is in each of all those gatherings without any limitation. That omnipresence alone let's you know that Jesus is beyond the flesh and blood you see except you're spiritually blinded. Only God is omnipresent. Only God can be in every place where He is mentioned at the same time!

MaxInDHouse:
You are saying two different things my guy.

You can't correct a performing group when you don't know any better one. For instance you can justifiably speak against a government when you have a better one to present but in the absence of such your complaints are invalid![

That differs from following whatever is posted on social media nah!😟

Can you tell me what's better in a group that lies to its congregation, have criminal cases everywhere, change revelations from time to time, give false prophecies of Christ's coming, teach false doctrines, and have no respect for Jesus the Great Shepherd of the sheep?

When Jesus said "Wherever two or more are gathered in my name, there in their midst, I am", does that sound like an Angel Michael to you? Does that sound like a man to you? Who is omnipresent enough to be anywhere and everywhere His name is mentioned if not God? Yet, your organization lies against Jesus calling Him an angel, and you have been here all day trying to defame Him. What's better about you?

MaxInDHouse:
Well the spirit of our God admonished:

Make sure of all things; hold fast to what is fine. 1Thessalonians 5:21

The difference between true Christians and those professing they believe in our God!

When it comes to the crimes of their organization, they know how to quote the scriptures to tell you to make sure of all things. But when you show them the truth of the Word of God that their organization has clearly turned upside down, the hypocrites turn a blind eye.

Truthseeker10:
Lol...so what Jesus did Jesus claim that his disciples saw in John 14:9?

The revealed Jesus.

The One that cannot be perceived by Flesh and Blood. "Flesh and Blood has not revealed this to you".

2)it seems that you are confusing yourself. Oga if you claim that "hen" was used to describe the unity of Jesus disciples when Jesus called them one, was it not the same "hen" that Jesus used when he said he and the father are one? So where are you getting your "essence" from?

Go and argue with the screenshot I shared with you. If you want to learn, go and research that verse. Otherwise, remain ignorant it you so wish. I have helped you with some other screenshots below.

Oga you are wasting your time with the above explanation.
If you claim that those who overcome in Revelation 3:21 will seat on Jesus throne and also claim that Jesus is sitting on his father's throne, why are you now confusing yourself and saying rubbish?

You're the one confusing yourself because you have obliterated your gift of sound reasoning in favor of false doctrines.

If there are many thrones in heaven, we will understand that Jesus sits on a separate throne from the Father's. But in heaven, there's just one throne. Hence Jesus' throne is the Father's throne.

If there's just one throne on earth, then we'll conclude that the disciples sit in the same throne as Jesus, but there are many thrones under one throne, hence the disciples sit on separate thrones but rule within the same Kingdom by the authority of that one throne which is Jesus'

MaxInDHouse:
No nah, i'm just reminding you that it's not good spreading rumor that you can't verify! Exodus 23:1-2

If I didn't see from verifiable sources, I won't believe it let alone spread it.

MrEar:
😁😂

Na Wa for this MaxInDHouse organization.

Lol

Janosky:

Oga, this is a public forum.
It's better you say nothing than spread false claims because yoi don't like JW's.

A.i Overview

JW's won the case & the Court ruled against the Govt of Norway.

Jehovah’s Witnesses (represented by the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society) won a significant appeal against the Norwegian state in early 2025 regarding their registration and state subsidies, reversing a previous decision.
Key Details of the Ruling:
Court of Appeal Decision: The Borgarting Court of Appeal ruled that the government’s decision to revoke Jehovah’s Witnesses' registration as a religious community and deny them state subsidies was invalid.
Shunning Policy: The court did not find it substantiated that the Witnesses' practice of shunning ("social distancing" members who leave the community violates the right to free withdrawal from a religion, overturning a lower court ruling that deemed it "psychological violence" against minors".

We're talking about the money pocketed by the thieves. Not the shunning of members.

MaxInDHouse:
The politician who doesn't know why Jesus was charged and the criminal who doesn't know Jesus throughout his life as a criminal can testify not gullible people like you following rumors!🙂

Mtcheww. No be you dey follow rumors dey say Jesus was alleged of crimes?

So, Pilates who the Proconsul of Judea who also doubled as the judge before whom He was dragged didn't know Jesus? Even the Scriptures say Pilates knew they were dragging Jesus because of envy. Pilates wife even dreamt and on the basis of that dream told Pilate not to have a hand in the death of that "Innocent Man". You guys just love lies!

Is the JW organization innocent? No! From all indicators, there are crimes they have committed. The crimes are even numerous. Not one, not two. Almost 1,000 . They have court cases here and there. Only them o.