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MaxInDHouse:
Exactly what faithless Judaists said when Jesus' disciples were pointing out scriptures Jesus was fulfilling as the promised Christ.
So if you speak against men it's OK but then the works they are doing globally using imperfect humans from different nations throughout the earth including racist nations like Arabs shows they are working with a powerful spirit {John 10:37-38} therefore think before you commit the unforgivable sin. Matthew 12:31-32
A piece of advice!🙂

Keep your advice to yourself dear. You cannot be commenting sacrilege against the Word of God and be claiming your sacrilege is from the Holy Spirit. You cannot deliberately falsify scriptures and be claiming your falsification is from the Holy Spirit.

For example, you cannot translate John 1:1 which in Greek says "...the Word was God" to ",...the word was a god" and be claiming that the deceptive translation is from the Holy Spirit.

The Holly Spirit cannot prophesy the coming of Jesus through you several times and be failing each time. You must be a false prophet.

Go and advice your 8 rulers to stop impersonating the Holy Spirit and repent of their sins. If they humble themselves before God, God will accept them and pardon their iniquities, and show them mercy. They should actually give their hearts to Christ and become born again.

allthingsgood:
When someone shoots you first, will U be expected to clap for them Y'all are very unreasonable and illogical

Then shoot the person back!

Why can't Iran just target Israeli leaders and military infrastructure, and also send missiles into the White House? Why targeting Israeli civilians and neighboring Arabs?

Truthseeker10:
The question that you have asked means that your Explanation of John 17:3 is false. Below is your statement about John 17:3.

"Knowledge of the Only true God. Knowing Yahweh as the ONLY true God and knowing that He sent Jesus for your salvation, and believing in what He did for you. That is Life Eternal."

Knowing that the God of Israel is the only true God and that He has sent Jesus His Son to die for his sins, and that Jesus is both Lord and Savior and a coming King is what you're crying out loud about?

That's the knowledge I'm talking about. Not doctrines. Not Trinity or no Trinity. Baptism or no baptism. Tithe or no tithe. Just the very foundational truths. J
esus must have told him the foundational truths on the cross. The reason for which the other thief must have said "If thou be the Son of God, save yourself and us." Meaning Jesus expressly witnessed to them that He was the Son of God.

What other knowledge do you want them to have to be saved? Can you clearly state it?

The armed robber has therefore proved that you are a false teacher according to your statement above.

No, it only means that your reasoning is myopic and that somrone must break simple truths into chunks for you to understand.

MaxInDHouse:
Submitting to God's word is exactly the focus of Pharisees yet they failed to see how Jesus was fulfilling the prophecies found written in God's word the same way you think you are submitting to the word of God but failed to see why it's impossible for you to present your fellow worshipers with whom you are unitedly doing God's will as Jesus Christ commanded his disciples! Matthew 28:19-20; Act 1:8
Thousands of different religionists out there are claiming submission to God's word but facing different directions! Luke 11:23😀

Lol. So, submitting to God's Word is the same thing as failing to see or rejecting clear prophecies according to you.

We understand that the Pharisees were blinded. And there was a prophecy to that effect.

So, failing to show a physical gathering is also an indication of not submitting to God's Word according to you. Lol. If we ask you to produce a scripture that supports what you said how, you'll be navigating a new bend without minding that your attention is not needed on that side of the road.

You would see clearly what is written in the word of God and ignore it in preference for human doctrines, and yet you're here still having something to say? You don't fear God?

Truthseeker10:
The FxMasterz guy needs help. He always contradicts himself.

He contradicts himself only when you're confused.

Ask clarifying questions if the matter seems too much for you to handle.

MaxInDHouse:
He is just deceiving himself!😟

Says someone who does not submit to the Word of God as his final authority.

Osiris12:
you mean, they can’t live with each other in peace?

They actually hate each other.

Osiris12:
There will only be peace in the Middle East the day Saudi Arabia expels USA from its country. Others will follow suit

Hehehe.

Saudi Arabia will expel the same USA that has been protecting it against Iran for decades?

MaxInDHouse:
“For this reason I say to you, every sort of sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the spirit will not be forgiven. For example, whoever speaks a word against the Son of man, it will be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the holy spirit, it will not be forgiven him, no, not in this system of things nor in that to come" Matthew 12:31-32
The one and only organization of imperfect humans fulfilling what God promised you said they are astray?😀

Ọmọ think of what Jesus said about sinning against the holy spirit o!🙂

Because there is no spirit apart from God's holy spirit that can make imperfect humans throughout the earth to agree on doing God's will.

All the prophecies Jesus fulfilled in the first century Pharisees kept claiming he was using demonic powers even though they can see that he is fulfilling what the scriptures said about the Christ the same thing you are doing today saying a global family of peace loving worshipers {Isaiah 2:4} is going astray!🙂

Lol.

Are your 8 rulers in the USA your Holy Spirit?

MaxInDHouse:
So that thief just believe that the dying man beside him is going to become a king without any prior knowledge shey?

Ọmọ stop deceiving yourself nah!😀

Did you have a prior knowledge that Jesus would become a King before you converted from Islam?

MaxInDHouse:
So a thief who never believes anything will believe what a dying man says just like that shey?

Nobody believes anything until ONE DAY. That one day is called the day of salvation:

2 Corinthians 6:2

For he saith, I have heard thee in a time accepted, and in the day of salvation have I succoured thee: behold, now is the accepted time; behold, now is the day of salvation.

MaxInDHouse:
God approved organized worshipers according to Isaiah 2:2-4

Kikikikiki

A last day prophecy about the Temple in Jerusalem, a type of the universal Church is your organized worshippers reference. Hilarious!

Tell me how Isaiah 2:2-4 referenced organized worshippers with 8 men leading them astray with their words more superior than the scriptures.

Truthseeker10:
Below in bold is your statement.

"Knowledge of the Only true God. Knowing Yahweh as the ONLY true God and knowing that He sent Jesus for your salvation, and believing in what He did for you. That is Life Eternal."

According to your statement above, do we need to have knowledge about Yahweh to be saved?

2)King James Bible
And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

According to the verse above, how many persons do we need to know to be saved?

What knowledge did the robber on the tree have about Yahweh before he had assurance of paradise?

One single question, you refused to answer. Meanwhile I have answers your endless questions.

I won't answer you until you answer the question above.

allthingsgood:
When you slaughter over 70000 children, bomb countries around U, assassinate leaders of countries, instigate wars.. and U expect Iran to just keep mumb and be looking. There is a reason for the chant, just like there is a reason why Iran is currently bombing Israel and it's allies. Iran has NEVER been the aggressor. It's US that infiltrated Iran and killed it's leaders severally.

All these reasons exist only in your imagination. And, those reasons are not enough for anyone to desire obliterating two countries.

allthingsgood:

Why are u amazed tho Iran didnt go looking for trouble
You dont expect us to support the aggressor.
Rather it is those of u blacks supporting US and Israel to start another endless war that is surprising

Why didn't you tell Iran to stop chanting death to Israel and America, and stop preparing nuclear weapons for them if truly Iran didn't look for trouble.

If you are chanting death to me and preparing nuclear weapons, I'll certainly come for you.

MaxInDHouse:
How come Caesar and Pilate never had the scriptures if all the leaders in the world back then had it?

Abeg, go and sit down.

Who said all the leaders in the world had it?

MaxInDHouse:
Chai!
This is clear evidence that you don't even know what the Bible teaches.😟

The scriptures is consistent "God can't be seen" so His organized worshipers are serving as His Witnesses! Isaiah 43:10
But if no activity of His worshipers are seen that means He doesn't exist!😟

But you were the one using the wrong scripture to shoot yourself in the foot. Lol. You were claiming that the unseen is the proof of faith. Isn't it?

I am particularly interested in the bolded.

Now, let me ask you a question.

Where exactly in the Bible did God say He was looking for organized worshippers?

Hey, don't run, and don't deviate. Hit the bull's eye and tell us exactly where God says He was looking for organized worshippers or that some organized worshippers would arise in some future.

You know I gave you proofs that God wants individual worshipers. All from the Word of God which you have rejected.

Now, tell me where God expressly showed interest in having organized worshippers.

I'm waiting for you.

MaxInDHouse:
The Bible didn't say he is saved rather he will be given a better opportunity in Paradise to WORK for his salvation.

Chai! I didn't know I still have to teach you what salvation means. Na wá o.

A saved person is someone who has escaped the damnation of hell and now has a place in paradise. Salvation is basically an escape from the wrath of God. A privilege to be counted out of the Devine judgement on sin.

So, if the robber was promised paradise, was he saved? Yes, he was, because he was n longer in danger of hell.

I still have a lot to teach you if you're humble.

But that's aside it's what he knew about the promised Christ that helped him if he never heard anything about Christ how do you think a dying man can tell another dying man to remember him in his Kingdom?
Ọmọ it makes no practical sense nah so it's his previous knowledge about the promised Christ through the scriptures that's speaking not just a novice who knew nothing about the scriptures!😟

He knew nothing right about Christ. He just knew that this Righteous man could only be the Son of God as He claimed, and must be someone who would have a Kingdom in the resurrection. I wouldn't be surprised if Jesus told both thieves on the cross about the Kingdom. He must have told them He was the Christ. Otherwise, that other guy would not be saying "If you are the Christ, save yourself and us "

In a nutshell, the man belonged to no gathering. He had no theology. He had no sound knowledge of God or of Christ. He was not even baptized. Yet,the was saved.

And my dear, if the robber Got to know Jesus through the teachings of the Pharisees ad you claimed, how come the Pharisees' who taught him didn't know Jesus?

MaxInDHouse:
It'll be better for to humbly learn from those who understands the scriptures more than you.
The priests do read the scriptures in the temple for the people and only few people had a copy of the scriptures because it's really expensive back then if no one has a copy of the scriptures please how come an Ethiopian man have it with him? Act 8:28😟

You are just repeating what I said back to me instead of humbly acknowledging that you have been corrected by me. The Ethiopian Eunuch was a leader, so he was in the category of people who could have a copy. I told you leaders had copies.

Even as you have the scriptures as a copy yourself, how much do you now know? You still come here everyday spewing ignorance and falsehoods such as the Jesus started reigning in 1914 nonesene. If you who have a copy can be so so wrong and ignorant, how much more those who couldn't afford the luxury, and only had people who read to them once a week. Those who read are also the same people who explain to them in their own doctrines. So what exactly do you expect the said robber to know?

MaxInDHouse:
You don't know the difference between scriptures and doctrine.
So let me explain. What we can all see written in the Bible are inspired scriptures but then while many only read it and few are meditating on it majority don't care about it at all but can you imagine if after hearing what the Bible foretells now happened in the presence of an atheist do you think he will still doubt the Bible?
That's exactly what happened to those thieves but while one quickly declared Jesus as King (Lord) the other was only concerned with his present situation.
Doctrine differs from what is written in the scriptures of course it's not all the Jews that believe what they hear in the scriptures just as there are faithless people everywhere that's what happened to those thieves but after seeing the fulfillment of what he has heard been read in his hearing about the Christ {Isaiah 53:1-12} he was moved to believe not in doctrine rather in what was written in the scriptures.

Very ignorant of you!

In those days, people were fed with doctrines. Except the Pharisees and the leaders, no one had a copy of the scriptures.

So, they all gathered together in the temple or synagogues to hear doctrines. That's why the disciples didn't know anything about the Scriptures. They would often ask Jesus "But the Pharisees say so and so..." Instead of quoting the scriptures, they quite the Pharisees.

That was the situation at that time. Notice that when Jesus preached for the first time in a synagogue in Luke 4, the Bible says a scroll of scripture was given Him to read. Why? He had no copy of His own. No one had a copy. Only the Pharisees, Sadducees, Essenes, Zealots, Herodians, and Scribes, and leaders had copies. Then, there was the synagogue and temple copies which Jesus must have studied from.

The robber on the tree couldn't have been reading any scripture even if he had access to a copy. Moreso, everyone in that era had access to doctrines heard every Sabbath in the temple. No one had a Bible to read for himself.

Therefore, the thief knew absolutely nothing whatsoever. He only had faith in Christ, the Son of the true God who was sent by Him for the remission of sins. He accepted the Lordship of Jesus without knowing anything else. He got saved. He didn't even get baptized. He apparently knew nothing about baptism.

MaxInDHouse:
That's DOCTRINE not what all Jews can read in the scriptures nah! Isaiah 53:1-12😟

And that notwithstanding, he was saved because of His faith in Christ alone. Not because he knew anything else besides.

MaxInDHouse:
And just as faithless Jews in the first century claims all the groups in their time including the apostles have false teachings.
Do you see how wrong you could be if you can't point out your own group?
It simply means you have no faith at all remember faith is the assured expectation of what is hoped for, the evident demonstration of realities that are not seen. Hebrews 11:1
So if there is no demonstration or work of a united organized people practicing what you are saying it simply means your God is nowhere to be found! James 2:26😟

Lol.

Can you now see that you have been condemned by the very scriptures you quoted?

Faith is the evident demonstration of realities that are not seen. Then, what makes you think that your organization which is a seen reality is of faith?

Hey, the Scriptures say "the things that are seen are temporal, and the thing that are not seen, which are the real products of faith are eternal.

The Hallmark of faith is not in gatherings or organizations. There are many gatherings and many organizations! Are they all faiths in God because they're organized? Why is your reasoning so warped?

Faith in God is an individual and personal thing. God relates with individuals, not congregations or gatherings.

God is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jack. All these are individuals. Even as a God of Israel, He is the God of that individual called Israel and his generations.

Paul called Him, the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.

He is my God, and the God of my generation.

A personal relationship with God is the most valuable relationship to God. That's why Jesus told the Samaritan woman "God seeks individuals (not congregations, organizations or gatherings) to worship Him in spirit (not spirits) and truth.

AMINDA:
Indeed. Is it cowardice or fear whenever you lot try to extricate Tinubu from what he clearly does. Why then is Tinubu keeping him in detention illegally without charging him to court? Elrufai made Tinubu president and he will invariably unmake him. Illegal incarceration or not. Just wait and see. Didn't Tinubu just strike similar deal with Bala Mohammed. Before that there was Ifeanyi Okowa and Yahaya Bello. When state institutions become political tools to coerce opponents to toe the line, then we are becoming a dictatorship. Tinubu's only pathway to victory as at today, is to be the only candidate on the ballot but it will not happen.

How many times have they told you that it was the Kaduna state government that arrested the midget for the embezzlement of Kaduna state funds? Tinubu has not even yet started with him for tapping the NSA's phone. That one is a DSS matter.

MaxInDHouse:
The robber was a judaist who must have heard a lot about the promised Christ from Pharisees and Scribes but due to lots of misconceptions he never believed any of those things not until he was nailed to the stake along with an innocent man who has proved to be a powerful prophet in Israel. Luke 23:41

Do you know what that means?

Well it means this thief has thought deeply on the few knowledge he had in the scriptures about how the Christ will be counted unworthy along with criminals:

And he was given a burial place with the wicked, And with the rich in his death, Although he had done no wrong And there was no deception in his mouth. Isaiah 53:9

For that reason I will assign him a portion among the many, And he will apportion the spoil with the mighty, Because he poured out his life even to death And was counted among the transgressors; He carried the sin of many people, And he interceded for the transgressors. Isaiah 53:12

Both thieves knew how powerful Jesus is that's why the other thief asked Jesus to perform a miracle to save both himself and them! Luke 23:39

Do you still think that thief has nothing in his head regarding the promised Christ?🤔

See how you're making conjectures and spewing a lot of lies.

The Pharisees doctrine deny that the Christ would suffer, let alone suffer with criminals! The Pharisees and scribes believe that the Messiah is coming expressly to reign as king. No suffering of any kind whatsoever.

The very reason why they rejected Jesus was because He didn't come as a King. That's the reason why Pilates put the inscription "King of the Jews" on His cross, since Jesus claimed to be the Christ, and the Jews believe that the Christ is a coming mighty King of Israel who would deliver them from their enemies. That's the very reason Herod went for the kid because he thought a rival king had been born. All these were due to the Pharisees' doctrines

If the robbers on the cross knew anything whatsoever about a coming Messiah, what they knew was that, He'll be King. A mighty one that subdues all enemies. They never ever thought of Him as someone who would suffer.

Infact, in order to convince Jews, Paul frequently tried to show them that the scriptures foretell that "Christ would suffer". A notion squarely rejected by Jews. The other thief mocked Jesus based on this nation, "if you be the Christ, save yourself and us". The Pharisees also mocked Him on this basis."If He be the Christ, let Him come down from the cross." All because they thought the Christ is not expected to suffer at all. And if He should be subjected to any form of suffering, He should be able to outrightly escape it.

In a nutshell, you have a very bad Theology. The thief on the cross had no true knowledge of who the Messiah was. Yet, he was in paradise with Jesus that same day as Jesus promised. He was only moved by Jesus' sinless life. This can be deduced from what he told the other thief. "We are here for our own crimes but this man has done nothing amiss." The thief had no other thing on his head than a personal conviction that Jesus was Christ the King. The Son of God. Simple!

This further demonstrates that all you need to be saved is to know that God exists. And that the true God has sent Jesus His Son for your salvation. And to believe in the finished work that Christ did for you on Calvary. And to leave a life of sincere obedience to His Word. That's all.

Every other thing is secondary, and is not a biblical requirement for salvation.

MaxInDHouse:
Scriptural knowledge totally differs from doctrine if the guy believes in the doctrine of Pharisees he couldn't have been a thief. He has the knowledge as read into his hearing by the Scribes but he never believed until he ended up with the Christ on the torture stake.

My dear, go and sit down. There's no Jew that does not believe in the doctrine of either the Pharisees or the Sadducees. Just go and sit down.

The same Pharisees that Jesus called and adulterous generation. The same Pharisees that Jesus alleged had turned the temple into a den of thieves. Hahaha. So, someone who believes in their doctrine won't be a thief? Tell me another joke. I know you guys are very ignorant.

What we need to do is accept Jesus as Lord (King) which means readiness to obey whatever the Christ commands.

So by asking Jesus to remember him in his kingdom means he has accepted Jesus as Lord (King) and ready to obey Jesus something really strange because both of them are dying so it's his faith in the little knowledge of the scriptures that moved Jesus to promise him a resurrection to paradise!

So, you're now coming to kow tow to my position, after all.thede back and forth. You're now re-echoing what I have been arguing against you.

So, he doesn't even have to belong to any organization again. Shame would not allow you to admit that the bolded is my position which you have been arguing against and claiming that being a part of a gathering is a prerequisite for salvation.

MaxInDHouse:
Highlighted in red is what you've been denying as you can't present any group of worshipers fearing God and doing what is right o!😟

Let me break it down for you!

Jews, Christendom churches, Muslims and JWs are all claiming worshipers of the God of Abraham but each has their teachings and doctrines that separates them.
You and billions of people are claiming followers of Jesus Christ but each of you has his or her own teaching and doctrine that separates you people.
So if you want to claim that there is any other person who fears your own God then such a person must have the same line of thought with you otherwise there is no difference other than the same delusion that runs through all Abrahamic religion whereas you are all contradicting yourselves.

If Jehovah's Witnesses say they have a teaching or doctrine that separates them from all of you something unique is there.

How?

They have fellow worshipers in all the nations of the earth sharing the same line of thought as one spiritual family you can't point or present anyone else who share your perception what you are doing is welcoming or tolerating them as long as they don't condemn your opinion!😟

Just as you have your own false teachings. The Adventists have theirs also. The Mormons also have theirs. All are claiming religion within Christianity like you so.

Don't be ignorant. Jesus is coming for individuals. He's not coming for groups or organizations.

"My reward is with me to give unto EVERY MAN (Not an organization) according as HIS WORK (not their world) shall be.

Again,

"Let EVERY MAN (not organization) strive for HOS OWN (Not salvation organizational) salvation with fear and trembling "

Again:

"Whose looks into the perfect law of liberty and continues therein, him not bring a forgetful heater but a doer of the works, THIS MAN (not this organization) shall be blessed in his deed "

Again:

"...I have laid the foundation, and another builds on it, let EVERY MAN (not organization) take herd how HE builds on it, for EVERY MAN'S WORK (not every organization's work) shall be tested with fire."

Should I bring you more?

I.okpw you won't listen because the Bible is inferior to you. It is your organization's doctrine you take and reference above the Word of God. You better repent and believe the Gospel.

MaxInDHouse:
You've changed your narrative with the highlighted otherwise you should have presented a group of people doing the above but you were saying SINCERITY is enough even though the person does not agree with you. That's why i asked if Paul was a sincere Pharisee or not!

Please quote whenever I said sincerity is enough to be saved! I dare you to do that. Provide the link and the quote.

This was the scriptural foundation laid regarding this position from the very beginning:

Acts 10:34-35

"So Peter opened his mouth and said: “Truly I understand that God shows no partiality, 35 but fin every nation anyone who fears him and hdoes what is right is acceptable to him."

A scripture you have rejected while you go about establishing false doctrines. I have consistently mentioned the composite factors that make a man acceptable before God. Sincere service is just one of them.

Truthseeker10:
1)Lol....so Jesus lied in John 17:3?

2)below is your below:

"God judges you on whether you believe what Christ did for you or not. That's all."

Does your statement above agree with John 17:3

3)So if Everybody on earth recite what the arm robber said, we will all be saved?

Why did you quote me without quote the scriptures that birthed the quotes.

You blatantly blinded your eyes to the scriptures but what to argue based on your organization's false doctrines.

Or, you want me to produce several other verses of Scripture other than Acts 16:31 which says "Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved—you and your household.”

Tell me, what other knowledge the robber had apart from believing in the Lord Jesus as the Scriptures have said.

What other knowing did John 17:3 expect of you than what Acts 16:3 and John 3:16 have prescribed?

"Whosoever' believes in Him shall not perish." Simple! He doesn't have to know doctrine.

John 17:3 expects you to know that the only true God sent Jesus His Son to die for your sins and to save you. Believe in that knowledge and you'll have life eternal.

MaxInDHouse:
The robber was a judaist who must have heard a lot about the promised Christ from Pharisees and Scribes but due to lots of misconceptions he never believed any of those things not until he was nailed to the stake along with an innocent man who has proved to be a powerful prophet in Israel. Luke 23:41

Do you know what that means?

Well it means this thief has thought deeply on the few knowledge he had in the scriptures about how the Christ will be counted unworthy along with criminals:

And he was given a burial place with the wicked, And with the rich in his death, Although he had done no wrong And there was no deception in his mouth. Isaiah 53:9

For that reason I will assign him a portion among the many, And he will apportion the spoil with the mighty, Because he poured out his life even to death And was counted among the transgressors; He carried the sin of many people, And he interceded for the transgressors. Isaiah 53:12

Both thieves knew how powerful Jesus is that's why the other thief asked Jesus to perform a miracle to save both himself and them! Luke 23:39

Do you still think that thief has nothing in his head regarding the promised Christ?🤔

Did he have any doctrine in his head similar to what Christ taught His disciples other than that He knew Christ was the Lord and Savior, and accepted Him so?

Can the doctrines of the Pharisees buy you paradise? Since you want to claim he had knowledge from Judaism.

MaxInDHouse:
The answer to your question lies in the question i asked you!

The question you asked does not relate with anything I've said so far.

I have said that someone who has accepted Jesus as Lord and Savior, and is sincerely walking with Him and searches the Scriptures to truthfully understand the Word of God, etc is acceptable by God if he does righteousness.

Now, tell me how your question relates.

MaxInDHouse:
So if he accepts Jesus can he still kill people?😟

Answer my question.