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Lukuluku69:

Hahaha, the thing still dey there.

Sixfiguresmart:
I am wondering too but I need to ask antichristian. Antichristian, kindly let us know who numbered the quran and arranged the chapters.

Who ordered the Abbasid to write the Hadith?

Where is the family lineage of mohammed today since someone from his family will be the last prophet? The one that allah will SEND in mohammed's family, is he a messenger or a prophet?

Antichristian and Lukuluku69, kindly tell Tenq if the quran was HANDED down to mohamed or DICTATED.

FxMasterz would also want to hear from you guys whether the quran was recited during mohammed's lifetime since he continued receiving revelations during the night that he had an all-night sex romp with an 18 year old teenager and died on top her.

When allah said 'worship allah', was he talking to himself or to mohammed? In other verses was he talking to himself or to mohammed? How do we distinguish when allah is referring to himself and who determines that?

Are the words in the Hadith from allah or men? When you follow it, are you following allah or men?

Hahaha, I'm following with rapt attention. Na so Antichristian come confess say na god you be.

AntiChristian:
Yeah he is a god like Baal!

He can lie for Christ!

That's why i fear liars like you lots!

You've been commanded to lie for your Allah, Sunna lies, Taqquiya or what do you call it, and all the falsehood you do are all in the open. No one takes you guys serious.

AntiChristian:
Your Bible translators are liars too for using same word that means Elisha slept with the boy too!


I'm not a Morroccan! I am a Muslim. Islam is a not a country thing! I can't say because the pope is gay then all Christians are likely gay! It doesn't make sense!

Whether true or false, we Muslims don't follow Egypt. I don't know why you are typing thrash on this thread now.

Thrash on Egypt again!

What is this again? A Youm7 ? Ah! Holy Spirit sef will be mesmerised with your level of copy and paste lies!

Here is your prayer book!
All liars (Like you and your friend) shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.” (Revelation 21:08)

We've laid the facts bare. Everyone would see what we quoted and can confirm where we quoted from. Your claims that I lied holds no water. I simply quoted what was written and what was said by your books and authorities.

Whatever you claim, the internet is always available for everyone to verify.

I've told you the truth as I saw it. The ones you clarified were accepted by me. The ones you couldn't clarify, you tagged me a liar for them.

Whether I lied or your sources lied, everything is here for the world to see.

AntiChristian:
I didn't come here for him. And why are you always calling on him?

na your 4th god?

Hahaha, tell me why you fear sixfiguresmart so much to even think he could be a god?

Lukuluku69:
Dundee, take your L.

Dunce, hope your senses have returned?

Lukuluku69:
Wehreydinho, it is now Daniel 12:9?

Dumboinho take your L and go.

Hahaha, coward!

AntiChristian:
Wahid is different from Ahad.
Here, one should fully understand that the word wahid is used in Arabic just like the word "one" in English. A collection consisting of great pluralities is collectively called wahid or one, as one man, one nation, one country, one world, even one universe, and every separate part of a collection is also called one. But the word Ahad is not used for anyone except Allah. That is why wherever in the Qur'an the word wahid has been used for Allah, He has been called itah wahid (one Deity), or Allah-ulWahid-al-Qahhar. (One Allah Who is Omnipotent), and nowhere just wahid, for this word ' is also used for the things which contain pluralities of different kinds in their being. On the contrary, for Allah and only for Allah the word Ahad has been used absolutely, for He alone is the Being Who exists without any plurality in any way, Whose Oneness is perfect in every way.

Abeg no be you i find come here as you no get any iota of sense! Fxmaster defend your lies now or become a liar forever

See how e dey fear sixfiguresmart. He dey run dey run, na me who no Sabi Arabic language e won come face.

Hahaha, cowardice na bad thing. Why not tackle him too? Why run?

Sixfiguresmart:
I see him online. Hiding like a coward.
He is feeling the heat now. AntiChristian. Come out

surah 56:66 We have been penalized (punishment)

By who?

Hahaha!

Lukuluku69:
Dundee, come back don't run. Come and take more Lesson from your Bible.

For all those reading this, this slowpoke smuggled Daniel 8 into the mix. Please you all should find time and read Daniel 8. The Angel told Daniel that vision is for the Medes and Persian kings and the Greecian King at River Elam.

This Dunce want us to believe that an Event that happened at least 2,400 years ago is still to happen.

You can all see the delusion in him.

Mumu, Everyone can see that you're really a dunce.

This demented fellow is dodging the real discourse and reverting back to a finished discussion to spell out his malady.

The argument currently is no more about Babylon, Petsia, Greece or Rome. This slowpoke finds it hard to catch up with the progression of the argument.

Men, we're saying if all the prophecies in Daniel have been fulfilled as this demented fellow said, why did the angel tell Daniel in Daniel 12:7-13 that part of his vision was meant for the time of the end? According to this dunce, everything about Daniel's prophecy finished about 1,400 yrs ago. I asked this loosed Yaba left inmate if the world had ended 1,400yrs ago. Rather than answer the question, the lunatic resorted to insults. The murderous follower of a false prophet never answered a single question I asked him on this thread. Yet, I've answered all his, in-to-to.

Let's test him again, perhaps his senses have returned:

Daniel 12:9

"And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for fthe words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end."

From Daniel 8 upwards, there were more prophecies which concerned several personalities as well as the Antichrist, the 3.5yrs of his reign, and several other things which Antiocus Epiphanes foreshadowed. He in his warped and erratic thinking believed Constantine fulfilled these prophecies 1,400 yrs ago. So, I asked him if Constantine fulfilled the entire details of the prophecy, the dunce kept mute. I asked him if the end has come 1,400yrs ago, the blockhead resorted to insults.

He said: “I am going to tell you what will happen later in the time of wrath, because the vision concerns the appointed time of the end."

Has the end come? Since the prophecies in Daniel all fulfilled 1,400yrs ago.

AntiChristian:
Stop being foolish like your other stupid friend in Holy Spirit! I knew it will come to this. You will always bring one lie to counter your previous lie. The same claim you said the Muslims scholars used are what i used to your Arabic Bible. You are simply a liar!

I don't have any scholar that reads your Kanz hadith that we don't know its authenticity!



All of the above are Hadiths right?

No wonder you lied it was in Bukhari at first!

All liars (Like you and your friend) shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.” (Revelation 21:08)

Lying Muslim, are you scholars and ulema lying too?

in 2011 a leading Moroccan cleric and founding member of the International Union of Muslim Scholars, Sheikh Abdul Bari Zamzami, issued a fatwa permitting the Muslim husband to copulate with his dead wife. He prefaced his decree by saying that, although he does not necessarily approve of this act, it is not for him to ban what Islam permits. As proof, he cited the aforementioned rulings of Islam's schools of jurisprudence.

In April 2012, when the Muslim Brotherhood's Muhammad Morsi was president of Egypt, news that Islamist Egyptian parliamentarians were trying to pass a law legalizing necrophilia appeared. Although Al Ahram, Egypt's most reputable paper, reported the story,

In late 2017, necrophilia was again mentioned and legitimized, and this time by Sheikh Sabri Abdul Raeuf -- a professor at Egypt's Al Azhar, the Islamic world's most prestigious madrassa. During a televised show in Egypt, the Sheikh-professor was asked if it is permissible for a husband to penetrate his wife after death. He replied: "It is not favorable in Islam; however the Islamic law considers it as Halal," meaning "permissible," not a sin or crime.

A Youm7 Arabic report titled (translation) "The Books of Al-Shafi'i, Al-Hanbali, and Al-Hanafi Reveal That Sex With a Corpse Is Not Adultery" verified the professor's claim.

Lying Muslim, what do you stand to gain by lying?

Lukuluku69:
You are even confused than I thought. You were the one that smuggled Daniel 8 into the show! And the onus is on you to explain it not me!

And I have read Daniel 8. Walahi you are a Dumb fellow. Your Dumbness carries a Capital D. Go back to that Daniel 8. One of the Angel gave the interpretations of that vision to Daniel. It did not leave it to you slowpoke.s.

Read verse 22! It says that vision is for the King's of Medes and Persia and also the Grecian King ( Alexander of Macedon). The vision is the wars of Persia and Greece.

The desolation you have been singing about is not but the Grecian Hellenistic tendency of the Judea and Samaria. That's the desolation. The Greeks brought the Zeus, Appolonia, Apollo, Venus and the host and set them up in Judea. That's was the desolation.

Read the Book of Baruch and Maccabees you will understand better

You're very dumb and demented.

I already finished my points on all the false fulfilment you claimed. The only thing I was clarifying was your assertion that all prophecies in Daniel have been fulfilled and nothing is future. I now quoted the verses that explicitly pointed out that some parts of the vision were for the time of the end. I then asked you if the world ended 1,400 yrs ago, since you said everything already fulfilled. My God!

AntiChristian:
Chai! Is this Bukhari? or Muslim? or Nissai? or Tirmidhi? Ibn Majah? Abu Dawud?

Even some of the books of hadiths above still have weak hadiths not to talk of these your source!

Let's agree that you lied earlier, Kanz al-‘Ommal in Sunan al Aqwal wa al-Af’al can't be said to be a source of your argument.

Check wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanz_al-Ummal and see the tag description. It contains a mix of reliable and unreliable hadiths.



I love this your argument!

Now the same word is used in the Arabic Bible for Elisha slept on the boy! So you are a liar again on this too!

ثم صعد واضطجع فوق الصبي ووضع فمه على فمه وعينيه على عينيه ويديه على يديه وتمدّد عليه فسخن جسد الولد.
2 Kings 4:34 in Arabic
Then Elisha got on the bed and lay on the (dead) boy, mouth to mouth, eye to eye, and hand to hand. As he stretched himself out over him, the boy’s body became warm.

Seems it's a common thing for Christians to falsify lies against Muslims all the time.

Na reason why i no dey answer una again!

Muslims are confirmed liars! Seems it's a common thing for Muslims to falsify facts and distort the truth.

You claim the same word was used in Arabic Bible for Elisha as used in the Quran for Mohammed. However, I'm not the translator of the Quran. The tranlation says Mohammed slept with her. The English Bible says Elijah slept on him.

Your Muslim scholars have commented on the same verse you're shamelessly defending. I quoted the words of one of your scholars in explaning the Arabic word. Am I the liar or your scholars?

Well, it's not in your power to defend your Quran. That's the job of your ulema: the scholars and clerics devoted to learning the doings and sayings of the founder of islam. Thus, the real question: Do the ulema agree or deny that necrophilia {sex with the dead) is permissible in Islam?
Well, let's hear them speak...

Abd Al-Hameed Al-Sharawani, Howashi al-Sharwani-
Al-Qubra, Egypt: Al-Maktabah Al-Tojariah, 1983, vol 1, pg 263
There is no need to rewash a dead woman if her husband has sex with her after she dies….And there is no punishment for anyone who has sex with a dead woman or limits sex to sex with a dead woman.”

Mohammad Al-Sherbini Al-Khateeb, Al-Iqna3 fi Hal al-Faz: Abu Shoja’a
Beirut: Dar al-Fikr, 1994, vol 2, pg 521
There is no restriction against sex with a dead woman or an animal.
Even animals...

Islam's four orthodox schools of jurisprudence (or madhahib al-fiqh ) -- namely, al-Hanafi, al-Hanbali, al-Maliki, and al-Shafi'i-- implicitly permit necrophilia. None of them actually address it on its own; rather, they give it a nod when it comes up in the context of other topics.

In the section on adultery, the Maliki teaching is this:
Sharh Mukhtasar al-Khalil In al-fiqh al-Maliki
If a husband enters his dead wife -- any which way, from front or behind -- there is no penalty for him.

Lying Muslim!!

Sixfiguresmart:
Surah 112:1 قُلْ هُوَ ٱللَّهُ أَحَدٌ
Say, ˹O Prophet,˺ “He is Allah—One ˹and Indivisible˺;

In the Quranic verse, allah is mentioned to be ONE OF...

The actual word used up there in the quran is أَحَدٌ (Ahad) meaning 'one OF'. So just as the quran uses 'we' to personate allah, there are surely them out there in Mecca. 'Wahid' means 'one'.

Another point is the spurious insertion of AND INDIVISIBLE in the English version when such a thing is not present in the Arabic inscription above.

Where did they get it?

AntiChristian answer the above

He's sleeping. Let me wake him up.

Lukuluku69:
Lol.

Rome never killed Christians? They did in the name of their gods. Greece did in the name of their gods. In history, everyone killed everyone. Christians have killed more Christians than the Muslims has ever done. I thought you said you know history?

And nowhere did the Arabian Prophet says kill Christians.

I can see that my response is irritating your the demons in you. That's good. That is what truth elicit in Liars and blind folks.

Romans killed by the orders of the emperors after pinning unfounded allegations on Christians. It started with Nero who falsely blamed Christians for the fire he set to Rome. The persecution and hatred began from there. Go and read history.

During the Greecian era, there were no Christians at the time. Yes, from nation to nation, Christians were killed wherever they preached the gospel. It was like that everywhere in the world in those days. Thomas, a disciple of Jesus was even killed in India.

But, it's only Islam that gives outright commandments to its followers to exterminate Christians and Jews. Islamic terrorists chant Allah's name and praises as they kill in obedience to Allah!

The Roman Catholic Church killed Christians who stood against its false doctrines after branding them heretics.

This is still quite difficult from the Muslims who have a commission from their so called holy book to kill disbelievers. I have several other verses

Lukuluku69:
Bros, the events in Daniel 2 and Daniel 7 are quite different from Daniel 8.

You are the confused one here. Daniel 7 talked about Four Beasts.

Daniel 8 is another thing entirely.

Why are you this confused?

We've finished the talk about Daniel 2 and Daniel 7. We're talking now about the man of sin whom you assumed to be Constantine.

AntiChristian:
Give us the reference first! I don't need you to mention your colleague in folly here. Conclude your argument by giving us the reference for your lies in our Books. You lied up that the hadith was in Bukhari. Na Holy Spirit and Jesus send you to tell lies?

Elisha too slept alone on the boy mouth to mouth, eye to eye, and hand to hand. Was it sex too?

And how will one even have sex with the dead body in the lahd grave i explained earlier if you had been attentive?

I know you thought I won't find it, having quoted the wrong Hadith. This is a Hadith you know very well. I saw how you weakly defended it on her thread but now you feign ignorance and called me a liar. Typical of Muslims. Great servants of Allah.

Now, this is it:

Kanz al-‘Ommal in Sunan al Aqwal wa al-Af’al
vol 16, pg 158
The prophet of allah took off his gown and put it on Om Ali and slept with her in her grave and they kicked dirt on him, saying: ‘Oh messenger of allah, we saw you do something no one else has ever done.’ He said: ‘I dressed her in my gown, so she can wear the gowns of paradise and I slept with her in her grave to relieve her of the torments of the grave.'” She was the best of allah’s creatures to me after Abu Talib.

The two Arabic words ( ataja' ma'ha ﺍﺿﻄﺠﻊ ﻣﻌﻬﺎ ) which is translated above as "slept with her" are indeed used in Arabic to mean "intercourse." This is similar to the English idiom "to lay with her," which can literally mean nothing more than laying down with a woman, but often is a reference to intercourse. More than a few Muslim clerics have made this linguistic observation. On the other hand, the Bible uses "Lay with her." Or 'Went in into her." To mean intercourse. This wasn't reflected in the Elisha episode you falsely quoted.

The Arabic scholar Demetrius explains: The Arabic word used here for "slept" is "Id'tajat," and literally means "lay down" with her. It is often used to mean, "lay down to have sex."
Muhammad is understood as saying that because he slept with her she has become like a wife to him so she will be considered like a “mother of the [Muslims].” This will supposedly prevent her from being tormented in the grave, since the [unbelievers] believed that as people wait for the Judgment Day they will be tormented in the grave. “Relieve of the torments” here means that the torment won’t be as much because she is now a “mother of the Muslims" after Muhammad slept with her and “consummated” the union.

You guys Sha. Muslims!!!

Lukuluku69:
You have been reading what I posted all this while suddenly I don't understand English anymore?

Rather, you are the blind fellow here.

The questions you posed are irrelevant. When you get to Sunday School you can ask them from other braindead fellows that littered them.

Do you want to be enlightened or you want to die in your ignorance?

I will show you places the Arabian Prophet was foretold in your Bible.

Get out of here. You just like lying and being deceptive.

I quoted Daniel 8 where the angel told Daniel that his vision was the end time. In your warped mind, the prophecies were fulfilled 1400 yrs ago. Did the world end at that time? Your reasoning get as e be.

Lukuluku69:
The Roman Catholic Bible has more Book than the Protestant Bible. So, the extra Books was it the Holy Spirit that inspired it too? What is the same Holy Spirit that inspired the Protestants to do away with those books?

What is contrary in Prophet Muhammad life that you want to share with us on Nairaland?

And what do you mean by contrary God? And what foul ending?

You are typing like a YabaLeft inmate.

Calm down. You don't have to reply now. Calm down. Calm it. I know your ways, when there is nothing else to say, the christian bigots will start attacking the Prophet

Calm down you have been a sport so far

You want me to start a thread on Mohammed's history? Then, let's begin. You will be ashamed.

Are the extra books in the Roman Catholic canons your issue? Is that what you meant by corruption? Hahaha! You're a Yaba left inmate let loose indeed. You spoke so well about yourself.

AntiChristian:
The act was done indoors with only Elisha there with the dead boy! The mother was outside. Elisha slept on the boy! He didn't have sex with him right?

How is it that Muhammad that was with his companions have sex with a woman that has been shrouded and tied in the islamic way before being laid in the grave? But Elisha that was alone in the room with a boy on the bed didn't have sex with the boy?

And where is the refference for your accusation or can we call it a liar without any reliable source?

Your hadith says he slept with her. Your Hadith didn't say he slept on her. I saw how sixfiguresmart bashed you on this. He even quoted what your popular imams said about the sexual abomination in affirmation. Or, let's move on to the thread created on this issue by sixfiguresmart.

Lukuluku69:
Loads of Turd.

Daniel Propechy has been fulfilled safe for The still standing Roman Empire, stop loading your brain with gibberish. Babylon, Persia, Greece, and Rome.

If you must wonder at all, wonder at your blindness, dumbness and deafness.

I gave you facts history can corroborate but here you are mouthing hi gibberish as interpretations of what Daniel himself explained. He said Four Kingdoms. Everyone identifies them as Babylon, Persia, Greece and Rome. Three has fallen, one is standing. I showed you at the hands of who the last two fell and here you are still mouthing nonsense.

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Mumu. Tell me you don't understand simple English. Even when the angel succinctly told Daniel that the vision is for the time of the end.

You see, your spiritual senses are corrupted. Hence you can't decipher truth even when they're laid before you in black and white.

Why didn't you answer any of the questions I asked? Deceitful Muslim.

AntiChristian:
Give a referenced and "authentic" hadith where that was done clearly!

Clearer than what is available in the Bible below.

Then Elisha got on the bed and lay on the (dead) boy, mouth to mouth, eye to eye, and hand to hand. As he stretched himself out over him, the boy’s body became warm. 2 Kings 4:34

That was how Elisha raised a dead boy back to life after several attempts to raise him. Gehazi first placed Elisha's staff on him, no show. Elisha paced the room for some time. The mother was wailing and making demands on Elijah until Elijah received the inspiration to lay on, and no lay with him.

Mohammed on the other hand didn't do it to raise the dead. He didn't sleep on but slept with the woman. Those phrases up there mean different things.

AntiChristian:
Also the reference of the hadith you quoted is false!

What's the correct reference?

AntiChristian:
Check the attached "Lahd" grave. How will the dead be placed in that side hole if there's no one to assist in their?

The grave is not the usual straight forward type you guys know. This is the most preferred typed in Islam as it offers more protection. The dead body is sealed in afterwards.

And mind you he's not praying in the grave.

Well, that's okay.

What about Mohammed sleeping with a corpse?

Sahih Bukhari , Book 23, Number 329:

Narrated Abu Dhar:

Allah's Apostle said, "Someone came to me from my Lord and gave me the news (or good tidings) that if any of my followers dies worshipping none (in any way) along with Allah, he will enter Paradise." I asked, "Even if he committed illegal sexual intercourse (adultery) and theft?" He replied, "Even if he committed illegal sexual intercourse (adultery) and theft."

Sixfiguresmart and TenQ should kindly help them out.

AntiChristian:
You are ignorant of Islamic practices which would take a while to explain to you.

1. One who copulates must have a bath to be clean and to be able to pray! He was the one who was clean at that time as most were married and may of course have had sex with their wife.

Sahih Bukhari Volume 2, Book 23, Hadith Number 374.
Narated By Anas bin Malik : We were (in the funeral procession) of one of the daughters of the Prophet and he was sitting by the side of the grave. I saw his eyes shedding tears. He said, “Is there anyone among you who did not have sexual relations with his wife last night?” Abu Talha replied in the affirmative. And so the Prophet told him to get down in the grave. And so he got down in her grave.

Where did you see the Prophet copulating with the dead which happen to be his daughter in the above hadith?

Your explanation about Abu Talha is reasonable but what did he go into the grave to do? To wash the corpse? I know this can't be. To pray for the dead? He could stand atop the graveside and pray. But anyway, let me hear the reason from you.

Mohammed copulated with a dead woman in the text attached below:

AntiChristian:
Those who would help place the dead body in the grave must be free from sexual impurity! So of what use is your attachment?

Those who would place the body in the grave for the prophet to copulate with must be free from sexual impurity? Hahaha!!

The prophet even asked one of his followers, Abu Talha who has not had sex for a while to enter the grave for sex with the corpse. Chai!!

AntiChristian:
Which moniker did i present it with you? Na so you chamelons dey change color from one moniker to another!
It seem that your colleague in folly is your MOG sef cos you must mention him as you can't say anything on your own!

And of what use is the attachment you attached?

The attachment is from your Hadith. I used it to praise your religion and your prophet. I thought it would make you happy.

AntiChristian:
Which moniker did i present it with you? Na so you chamelons dey change color from one moniker to another!
It seem that your colleague in folly is your MOG sef cos you must mention him as you can't say anything on your own!

I have seen it severally in your posts with different Christians on this forum. These are your most known and widely used lines. And each time, you run away!

AntiChristian:
Can you say your God was never violent anywhere in the Bible?

He never send anyone to kill others in vengeance and keep virgins for themselves?

Now, I will answer you. Since you didn't come with vulgarity. If you are vulgar, I'll give it back to you. Trust me!

First, tell me who my God was violent against.

AntiChristian:
Who should quote your Book for you as na you it was written for not for me.



You guys are so foolish and demented that you joyfully worship a paedophilic three Gods who sent people to kill and save only virgin women to themselves in Numbers 31. God himself got a share of the virgins in Numbers 31:40. Isn't your foolishness raised to power infinity?

I don't even need to tell you how violent your God was before He repented. Yet He lied that he does not change! Why is your God not killing like He did in the Old testament? He has Changed.

But God no dey Change!
See your stupidity!

See your malady in public! Who did my God kill? Murderous son of a murderer from a murderous religion of terrorists.

AntiChristian:
I don't need to always be here. I control my time as i deem fit. If you have any P with that hug the next available transformer!

Ah, your colleague in folly right! I sabi am well. There comes a time in life you just need to stop arguing with persistent liars! Lairs for Christ especially those who can cook anything weak/fabricated to denigrate Islam. It's a waste of time engaging them all the time. Just dropping in once in a while is enough.



It is foolishness to talk this way! Anyways you may be inspired to write thrash as you can start speaking in tongues in the next minutes despite just saying nonsense!

Kingdom of God, also called Kingdom Of Heaven, in Christianity, the spiritual realm over which God reigns as king, or the fulfillment on Earth of God’s will. The phrase occurs frequently in the New Testament, primarily used by Jesus Christ in the first three Gospels. It is generally considered to be the central theme of Jesus’ teaching, but widely differing views have been held about Jesus’ teaching on the Kingdom of God and its relation to the developed view of the church.
https://www.britannica.com/topic/Kingdom-of-God

Mumu, Bleep off. Haters of truth. Sixfuguresmart quotes from your Hadith and Quran and asks you to explain. Who's the liar here. The person quoting or the book quoted? Mumu man.