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Maynman:
We know things can be created because we have seen things been created. I don’t know how the universe came to be, I shouldn’t use my human logic to qualify it.
There may be things that can be created and not exist and things that can exist without been created. What if there are other concepts different from “create” “exist”?
When we say something is alive and dead, what does it really mean?
Is our definition of alive and dead concept valid somewhere different from here? I don’t know.

Bro, religion dates far into man's distant past. The first humans have a better understanding of these things than we whose religious histories have been majorly lost, and what we now call religion generally is a metamorphosis.

First, we need to understand that no one invented religion. It was actually in our roots. The first ancestors worshiped something or someone. Then, several generations afterwards, that something or someone became less known since everything at the time was passed down through oral history.

Then cane a generation that does not know what to worship but know they must worship something or someone as their fathers did, resulting in a mutiplicity of gods as everyone worships what he seems fit.

Generations later, some people are asking 'Is there really a God? Is there really an Afterlife?' if we have traceable records, I'm 100% certain we'll find the first Atheist who ever lived. This means the human race didn't take off in Atheism and then plunged itself into religion as we have it today. The Agnostics are themselves confused because they don't know what to believe.

The whole argument would have been easier if we have ancient records of things from the earliest man but the very lack of this is the reason why we all have disagreements.

However, even if such ancient records exist, many would still doubt such records. There are those who'll call them Fabrications. And of course, there are those unscrupulous elements who'll try to do mischievous forgeries and scripts for some personal gains at the expense of others.

Logically looking at it all, the begining wasn't atheism. That's fact. The first humans were theists. That should point us to some truths. They evidently were theists because they knew or even saw what they worshipped.
They also knew why they were worshipping him, it or them. They've passed the concept down to the entire human race who have now lost the identity of what was worshipped, and now the confusion.

Except we can prove that Atheism was the first thing humans ever did before veering into religion, we cannot safely void this kind of reasoning.

kroger:
I am trying to phantom as to how people still support and campaign for Tinubu. How on earth will a reasonable person be rooting for someone that is demented. Just imagine Tinubu becoming the president of Nigeria. Haaa God forbid

I bet Tinubu doesn't know he's in APC. Someone who referred to Atiku as former Senate President.

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TruthinAction:
I am shocked that some people still believe in this fraudster called T B Joshua. With all the numerous allegations pointing to the same thing, no sane person should still worship there.

Bisola brought her allegations, they said she is mentally disordered. Is Paul Agomo and Pastor Kayode also mentally disordered? Please you better watch how you defend a guilty man before you become an accomplice.

It's a pity. You nailed it.

ebukachris:
If the above story is true,


flogging of church members then what is the different between him and Rev King. well all my life of reading the Bible, I didn't come across JESUS flogging the disciples or anybody Else and JESUS really didn't abandon his family and friends. He was there to wake Lazarus from the dead.

TB Joshua wasn't of God.

Flogging church members, disconnecting a man from his family, separating a man from his wife and giving a fake prophecy about the man's childlessness are proofs enough.

MrPresident1:
One day your eyes will open and you will have an idea what the Anglo-Americsn world power did to you. How they have ensured that you never grow, and that you live in poverty and mediocrity all your lives, in pain and in toil and in ridicule, how they have cornered all your wealth and turned all your leaders against you, so you're always blaming your leaders for being corrupt and unfeeling, and stealing all your money, you not knowing that they are under orders from this evil empire. Its just shows how myopic you are, 'our leaders' 'our leaders' 'our leaders' that's what you're always moaning, how come none of your leaders are good people according to you? All your good leaders are demonized before your very eyes and you also follow the devil and his agents to hurl stones at them, why won't they be loyal and obedient to the whôre when they know that you will not protect them?

You're evil! Evil Nigerians!

Except you provide evidences to your claims. Do not expect anyone to believe you gullibly.

Janosky:
Revelation 21:1-5 = Matthew 5:3,5.
Oga, go and delete Revelation chapter 21:1-5 nau

What does inheriting the earth have to do with the 144,000? You probably quoted the wrong comment. Please read my post again.

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TenQ:
The more Muslims lies are exposed, the more they fabricate new ones to cover the old lies. Indeed , Allah is the best Deceiver as as a guarantee, all Muslims will enter Hell fire before they realize that theyve been duped by the religion of Allah!

Quran 19:71
"And there is not one of you but will come to it [Hell]. This is an absolute decree of thy Lord. And WE shall save the righteous, and shall leave the wrongdoers therein, on their knees."



Sahih Bukhari (Volume 9, Book 93, Number 601)
… Anas then said, "Muhammad talked to us saying, 'On the Day of Resurrection THE PEOPLE will surge with each other like waves, and then they will come to Adam and say, 'Please intercede for us with your Lord.'…

They would come to me and I would say, 'I am for that.' Then I will ask for my Lord's permission, and it will be given, and then He will inspire me to praise Him with such praises as I do not know now. So I will praise Him with those praises and will fall down, prostrate before Him. Then it will be said, 'O Muhammad, raise your head and speak, for you will be listened to; and ask, for your will be granted (your request); and intercede, for your intercession will be accepted.' I will say, 'O Lord, my followers! My followers!' And then it will be said, 'Go and take out of Hell (Fire) all those who have faith in their hearts, equal to the weight of a barley grain.' I will go and do so and return to praise Him with the same praises, and fall down (prostrate) before Him. Then it will be said, 'O Muhammad, raise your head and speak, for you will be listened to, and ask, for you will be granted (your request); and intercede, for your intercession will be accepted.' I will say, 'O Lord, my followers! My followers!' It will be said, 'Go and take out of it all those who have faith in their hearts equal to the weight of a small ant or a mustard seed.' I will go and do so and return to praise Him with the same praises, and fall down in prostration before Him. It will be said, 'O, Muhammad, raise your head and speak, for you will be listened to, and ask, for you will be granted (your request); and intercede, for your intercession will be accepted.' I will say, 'O Lord, my followers!' Then He will say, 'Go and take out (all those) in whose hearts there is faith even to the lightest, lightest mustard seed. (Take them) out of the Fire.' I will go and do so."' …

Anas told me the same as he told you and said that the prophet added, 'I then return for a fourth time and praise Him similarly and prostrate before Him. He asks me the same as he did, 'O Muhammad, raise your head and speak, for you will be listened to; and ask, for you will be granted (your request): and intercede, for your intercession will be accepted.' I will say, 'O Lord, allow me to intercede for whoever said, 'None has the right to be worshiped except Allah.' Then Allah will say, 'By my Power, and my Majesty, and by My Supremacy, and by My Greatness, I will take out of Hell (Fire) whoever said: 'None has the right to be worshipped except Allah.'"

See how Mohammed was foolishly promoting himself. How can anyone take this person's testimony as authentic.

'Allah will say to me; then I will go and do this and do that; and Allah would then tell me..." Blah blah blah.

The self promotion is too obvious. How can any sane person take such for a prophet?

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harqinhola:
Fact check

Quran 70 v40

If what those blogs said is true, it means that anyone who swears by the Lord of the East and West is Allah. Hahahaha!

advocatejare:
They are hiding in shame seeing how Allah is swearing with everything up and down!

This particular verse tells us Allah's location. If Allah were to be in heaven, then, he would have said, 'I swear by the angels who take down the revelation',- taking it down from heaven to earth (if he would at all swear by angels), but instead:

"Then I swear by the angels who bring down the revelation," Quran 77:5

If the 'down' where the revelation was brought is not heaven but earth, then, Allah is on earth. Hahahaha!

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Kobojunkie:
Not trying to hold brief for the other, but both 144,000 and the multitude stood before God's throne right here on earth — none of them were in heaven at the time described by John in Revelations 7, and yes, at the time of the resurrection, God's throne will be visible from right here on earth. John reveals that He will be worshipped from right here on earth, day and night by the multitude.

Hahahaha!

So, you read the Book of Revelation too? Wonders shall never end. Wolf in sheep clothing who says he doesn't believe other parts of the new testament except the gosepels.

Janosky:
Yes, the 144000 are the first fruits, according to the holy Bible.
Did your own Bible says other fruits went to heaven?
Oga, show that chapter and verse.

Otherwise, you are adding to the holy scriptures.

If there are 'First fruits', then, there'll be a second. You're the one saying what the Bible didn't say. Don't you know the meaning of firstfruits? Perhaps, you may ask a farmer. Remember that the terminology in Revelation is all about harvest. 'Thrust in thy sickle, for the harvest of the earth is ripe.'
Also, to what purpose is the everlasting gospel in verse 6?

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