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[quote author=StillDtruth post=131788349]Thrash Moses and the prophets did it, who gave them gifts? The Lord, Himself did it and His disciples too, who gave them plenty gifts?They received gifts. Yes or no? Oyedepo and co are babalawos and todays Simon the sourcerer. They are not of God![/b]Okay. That's alright. No need to argue with you. |
StillDtruth:Oyedepo doesn't make any promises to receive gifts. People who have been blessed by his ministry gift him everyday. He rarely buys anything with his money. Even factories abroad send him regular gifts of clothes, shoes, etc. There are those whose lives have been touched by his ministry and are regular and committed givers without him ever asking. Oyedepo would never ask you for a dime. He even boasts that his ministry has never asked anyone for contribution. "All you see here can only be God. We are not achievers. We are just receivers. This ministry has never asked anybody for money. A believer is not saved to live a beggarly life." Please don't sin by attacking men of God by your limited knowledge. You did cut off my statement to establish a what you wanted to say. I said we cannot decide right and wrong for everyone. You started talking about deciding right and wrong as though that's what I said. As far as Spiritual issues are concerned, we are all learners No one can claim to be a master of spiritual truths. It would even be pride to say that. Paul said: "For by the grace given me I say to every one of you: Do not think of yourself more highly than you ought, but rather think of yourself with sober judgment, in accordance with the faith God has distributed to each of you." Do not think of yourself more highly than you ought to think. Knowledge puffs up but charity edifies. 1 Corinthians 12:1 "Now about food sacrificed to idols: We know that “We all possess knowledge.” But knowledge puffs up while love builds up. Those who think they know something do not yet know as they ought to know. But whoever loves God is known by God." He even said that you should not think you know anything yet as you ought to know. The men of God you're calling devils have hazarded their lives for the gospel more than you have ever done. They have severe God ministry whole heatedly for more than 50yrs without a single scandal in their ministries. Please be guided in your utterances. Remain blessed. |
StillDtruth:Lol. But that's not the way it should be. We're still limited in knowledge and therefore cannot decide right and wrong for everyone. Do not judge or call people devils. Tomorrow, when more knowledge comes to you, you'll call them saints. Just as you can see better today regarding your actions yesterday. You'll still see better tomorrow regarding your actions of today. Many years ago, I used to think that buying jets for men of God is evil as you are thinking today. But after my own personal experience with ministry, I saw why it was necessary for them. Without it, they wouldn't be able to accomplish much. Jesus said, "Go ye into the world and preach the gospel." He didn't tell us to wait for the people to come to us. It seems you believe that these people are fake. Well, maybe I'm also fake to you as well. But you see, people who are into religion always see others as fake, and are always angry when others don't do what they thought they should have done. But people who have met Jesus don't reason like that. God loves sinners and wants them to come into Righteousness. God does not hate sinners. He only hates the sins they commit. Infact, God loves sinners. That's why Jesus had to die for everyone. He didn't die for the righteous. He died for sinners. We are commanded to pity sinners. Not to be angry with them or call them mad. Jude 1:23 "...and for others, save, snatching them out of the fire; and on others have mercy with fear, hating even the tunic polluted by the flesh." Save them, hate only the garment of sin they wear but have mercy on those wearing those garments and save them from the fire. And let me also add that these men of God do a lot of charity work which they don't announce. Charity worth several millions of dollars yearly from their personal pockets. Oyedepo doesn't earn any salary as a person. Most of what he has are gifts including the jets. |
StillDtruth:At the bolded, since you're the one who is God-sent, I can see that the whole world has come to you. Or perhaps they're with your God-sent pastor. I don't even know why you're always militant in all your posts. Are you a soldier-lawyer? |
MightySparrow:A lot of people talk very ignorantly, and sin without knowing it. The works these General Overseers do are quite enormous. They have appointments, speaking engagements, meetings and other occasional urgencies in several nations each week. Sometimes, two appointments in two different nations in one day. They fly to Germany in the morning for a meeting and by evening are in the United Kingdom for a preaching engagement while also needing to rush back home same night to prepare for an important service on the morrow. They're not getting jets for luxury but to enable them accomplish more, enjoy easier navigations around the world and prolong their lives in spite of their heavy schedules. |
Boomark:This is really beautiful of you! You have behaved like a true Christian. A true child of God. This is what makes the difference between us and unbelievers. I can say it anywhere that no Atheist, Muslim or JW can ever humble himself and sincerely apologize as you have now done. I have done exactly like this, many times on this platform even to those who were my aggressors. Yesterday I have apologized to an atheist who was always insulting me on every thread. It takes the indwelling Presence of the Spirit of God for anyone to exude such virtue. I'm glad to see this brighter side of you, and I believe that you have set a godly standard as a Christian right now on Nairaland. This is commendable and worthy of emulation. Only the Holy Spirit can do this in a man. I have had many issues with many unbelievers on this platform on the matters of faith. The very aggressors are the ones who'll be demanding apology. They'll step on your toes and still ask you to say sorry. What you've done is exactly what Christ taught us, and that's what God expects of us. I believe we have both learnt one or two things from our interactions together. At least, God has used our initial disagreements to show forth His Glory. Blessed be the name of the Lord. You want to help me deal with the JWs? Hahaha, once they begin, na only go dem hear o, dem no dey hear come. Thanks for the offer but I wouldn't want you to be dragged into such things as that. Shimei cursed David on the day that Absalom chased him out of Israel. David was asked to retaliate but he responded with Devine Wisdom: 2 Samuel 16:7-12 "And thus said Shimei when he cursed, Come out, come out, thou bloody man, and thou man of Belial: The Lord hath returned upon thee all the blood of the house of Saul, in whose stead thou hast reigned; and the Lord hath delivered the kingdom into the hand of Absalom thy son: and, behold, thou art taken in thy mischief, because thou art a bloody man. Then said Abishai the son of Zeruiah unto the king, Why should this dead dog curse my lord the king? let me go over, I pray thee, and take off his head. And the king said, What have I to do with you, ye sons of Zeruiah? so let him curse, because the Lord hath said unto him, Curse David. Who shall then say, Wherefore hast thou done so? And David said to Abishai, and to all his servants, Behold, my son, which came forth of my bowels, seeketh my life: how much more now may this Benjamite do it? let him alone, and let him curse; for the Lord hath bidden him. It may be that the Lord will look on mine affliction, and that the Lord will requite me good for his cursing this day." In the end, Shimei came back to bow before David. This is because "The evil bows before the good, And the wicked at the gates of the righteous . Proverbs 14:19. It's just a matter of time. I really enjoy their abuses and insults. Sometimes when they do, I rejoice. There are times I have responded with the following Scripture: 'If ye be reproached for the name of Christ, happy are ye; for the spirit of glory and of God resteth upon you: on their part he is evil spoken of, but on your part he is glorified." 1Peter 4:14. The more they curse and abuse, and insult me, the more the glory of God increases upon my life. They think they're reproaching me but to me, it's a blessing. God will certainly "requite me good for their insults." Thanks again my brother for the offer. God bless you richly in Jesus name. |
jaephoenix:Jaephoenix, there's no insult in the screenshots you posted. Post your mention that I responded to. You were insulting me all through the thread until I made the post in the screenshot you attached. Anyway, I'm a Christian and the Lord Jesus has commanded me to make peace with all men. So, even though you do not deserve an apology, I will in total obedience to my Master apologize to you. I'm sorry. |
jaephoenix:You're very satanic, and one does not have to be surprised. You lie exactly the same as Satan himself. Why did you crop out your insults! So, telling you that you were perambulating is an insult? I proved your deceits before telling you that you're deceitful. That isn't an insult and I owe you no apology whatsoever! From your very first mention of me on this thread, you came with insults. At least all readers can see that. You're just too satanic and demonic for any truth to reside in you! Be bold enough to fully screenshot any of the posts you made on this thread before today. I dare you! |
jaephoenix:So, why did you crop in only number 1. Why didn't you include the other points? Are you blind to see that you're the one who is a stupid and idiotic liar? You don't even have shame. Very dull and unintelligent atheist! I posted Key Points, the pathological liar posted only one point. It's time to start ignoring all the stupid and unintelligent atheists on this thread! |
Any protest that does not demand accountability from state governments is useless. |
jaephoenix:Jaephoenix, honestly you're very dull. Go back to the first page of this thread and you'll see clearly that the argument is based on three interwoven factors: 1. Intelligent Design 2. Complex Systems 3. Purposefulness. All 3 together forms the basis of this entire argument. Everything rests on Purposefulness. Infact if there's no Purposefulness, I'll have no argument today. You kept arguing on flaws, flaws, flaws and now calling you father a bastard. |
jaephoenix:Sure! |
jaephoenix:Still it will not debate for Creationism. You can test it out yourself and bring proof if you found it otherwise. |
jaephoenix:Kikiki. So AI will debate for Creationism? You don't even know what you're saying! Go and try it now and bring it here for us to see. |
jaephoenix:Nothing concerns you about my branch. I know a lot more than you do concerning these things. I did computer science and maths. So, go and sit down. |
jaephoenix:I showed you that AI debated for evolution, not creationism. Go debate AI yourself and let's see how it goes. Go online and find similar thoughts as mine if you can find any. |
jaephoenix:You don't need to believe. Answer the debate. This is not a thesis. I can use anything for my debates. There are many responses here. Stop dwelling on just one response to make a point. |
jaephoenix:Only weak atheist will hold on to one argument presented out of several arguments just because it was finetuned by AI. Agree you have nothing to defend and go rest. |
jaephoenix:Yes, the attacks are welcome. That's what I want. I want very hot debates! |
jaephoenix:For only one answer provided out of 2 answers for one question? Only one fine-tuning for all the numerous answers here? Dey play! |
jaephoenix:Not proven. That's not plagiarism. The thoughts don't belong to anybody. |
jaephoenix:As long as it is rewritten and represented in AI language, it would be more than 50%. It said it's 85% AI. Not 100%. |
jaephoenix:Go and sit down. I made two answers to the same question. One was not fine-tuned, the other was. Only one response out of all the several responses here have been so finetuned. Yet, you want to make a mountain out of that molehill. Hey, this is a debate and not a thesis. The tools I use in fine-tuning my debates are up to me. There's no rule broken. Moreover, just one answer out of two answers provided to the same mention. So, what's the problem with you guys? And that's the only finetuned response on this thread! |
jaephoenix:Yes, I made the post. I have never said AI made the post. Or you don't understand the use of 'If' statements? I'm challenging the fellow that she should challenge the debate whether she thinks it's from AI or from me. A debate is a debate. Meanwhile I emphasized that the thoughts are 100% mine while I asked AI to make it presentable and alert me to scientific errors. The post is 100% my post. |
jaephoenix:Why don't you bring up the proof yourself? That was how you lied against me on the other thread after I accused you of calling me a retard. You said you never did. Once I proved you did, you started saying I first started it. When I proved you were the aggressor, you started saying it was not directed at me. Now, trace all our conversations on this thread. Even when you insult me, how have I responded to you? Did I even respond back with insults? Yet, you continue. You start all conversations with insults until I told you that your mind is very dirty. |
Boomark:Apology accepted. By this I know that at least, you still have the fear of God in you. So you you are saying that you don't earn salary as a pastor or they pursued you 23 years ago and you are no longer a pastor?I was not pursued. I left for other assignments as directed by the Master. I'm still in ministry. You are the one that has a very very bad character and lying spirit. See my first conversations with you and it was a question which you never answered till date. From there, you started calling me a liar, Boomark of satan and so so many abusive words JUST BECAUSE OF A QUESTION THAT PUT YOU IN DILEMMA. You are not fit to be a teacher.From my reply, you obviously saw I didn't insult you even in the screenshots you posted. Your question didn't put me in dilemma. It lacked substance. How can anyone be asking anybody if all the things he ever taught was in the Bible? I have even gone to explain to you that it is better for you to ask if all I ever taught ALIGNED with the Bible. How does a talk about scripting have anything to do with whether my teachings were in the Bible or not? You failed to explain that till today. I had wanted us to do the Quora and scripting stuff but since you don't want no problem. As for me alone, there is no retreat no surrender.I believe I should be your elder. From all your writings, I can deduce that you are a young chap. You should still apologize for telling me for telling me "I don't want to say you don't have sense. Your head is empty, etc " it was these statements that led me to querying and tagging you satanic. Go through all my interactions on this platform. I don't firstly abuse people. The JWs in particular heap a lot of insults upon me daily to which I never have retaliated. Although I retaliated once against one small boy among them who will start all his posts with me using all manner insults. I eventually even apologized for that retaliation but yet he continued until very recently. Infact, that thread we came here from was the only thread on which that boy had not insulted me. Yet, I never replied him with insults. The reason I insulted you was not just because of the insults you peddled but because I could see the pride you were exhibiting while still calling yourself an evangelist. Honestly, you did not appropriately represent your calling on that thread. 1 Timothy 4,:12-13 says: "Let no man despise thy youth; but be thou an example of the believers, in word, in conversation, in charity, in spirit, in faith, in purity." We are commanded to be an example of the believers in conversation and in character but you really fell short. Biko, use 'Boomark of God...' when you want to start apologizing and also remember to tell us if you are still a pastor or not. Thank you.Anyway, as the Word of God commands us to make peace with all men, I apologize for tagging you a fake evangelist. At least by your apology above, I know you fear God. However, you must work on your character. Respect people online and offline. Don't think that you know more than everybody and start addressing people as though you're the one who brought them into the world. From now I retract my statement in calling you a Yahoo Evangelist and Boomark of Satan. If you're indeed Boomark of God, please prove yourself to be one. Do not drag God's name in the mud by your character. Stand for truth only as I can say that you lied very heavily on this thread. You can't call me a liar on the basis of what two former members of an organization and several other members of the organization have said about the organization. Or is it because I said they don't have the Spirit of God? JWs don't believe in the Holy Ghost the way we do. They have some nasty things they believe about the Holy Spirit, and that's why I spoke that way, saying they're not giving room for the inspiration of the Holy Ghost. I know JWs better than you do. I have tasted several denominations. Everything I say about JW is not to demarket them or to disparage them. It is to call their attention to the falsehood they hold on to, and to make them see the truth. Go through all my conversations with them on this platform, I have always called their attention to falsehoods in their organization while telling them to be loyal to their own souls instead of an organization, and therefore consider their eternal destination because God is not a respecter of persons. My messages to them has always been something similar to what you see here on the screenshot. Join us in our bid to rip them off the grip of satanic deception and falsehoods instead of commending the evils they do out of your ignorance. When you oppose those who teach the truth to the people that are deceived, you end up fastening the noose of falsehoods around their necks. So, Boomark of God, learn, make necessary adjustments and join hands with those of us here who want more people to see the lights of the gospel and be saved. I love the JWs with the love of Christ. They're not my enemies. Anything I say to them is borne out of love for their souls. Even though, oftentimes they misunderstood.
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Boomark:1. You've been caught red handed already. Your lies and manipulations are already obvious on this thread. Are you still unable to produce any statement where I said you can only BECOME an evangelist by human ordination? You're one of those people whom the Bible refers to as "those who glory in their shame." Shout as you may, we are suspicious of you because of your love for deceits and falsehoods. Your bad character and lack of a meek Spirit forces us to question your claim of being an evangelist. We want to know who ordained such a demon possessed fellow into ministry. So after over 23 years as a former winners chapel pastor you cannot use a single scripture to defend what you are practicing? As in, you acquired a useless certificate just to be receiving SALARY as a pastor?Except you have comprehension issues, you should have read already that in the days when certificates didn't exist, the apostles used endorsement letters! Or are you blind to even see in Acts 15 that the apostles complained that some people went from them to preach nonsense "without authorization from us."? Liars like you won't see that because the Bible is not their final say. Their own words are the only truth in the universe. You call me a liar and a wicked fellow without any iota of proof! You have not been able to present any single proof of lies against me on this thread regarding this matter and other matters I have discussed with you. For the most part, I have exposed your lying and mischiefs on this thread beyond reasonable doubt. You can keep glorying in your shame. "When your character is at variance with your claims of ministry, we would ask you to verify yourself with an ordination certificate." Your alibi of a spiritual ordination would not stand since by you character you do not show yourself to be a true servant of God. Coincidentally, I have never received any salary in my life for being a Pastor. God will.judge you for this false narrative. I have been to several Churches and I have never received any pastoral salaries or emoluments because I do not want any earthly salary to deprive me of my full heavenly rewards. Except I have ever received salaries for pastoral work, God will judge you for this statement if you fail to retract and repent. I won't say more than that. I want you to know that I can confidently say that I am an evangelist anywhere. And that your man-made article of faith, human ordination, human spiritual father, and certificates are very very worthlessly useless before God who gave the gift of evangelism and prophecy.Nobody is trying to kill your confidence, God forbid. I am putting a check on your character and spiritual qualifications because it is nothing to write home about. Shout wherever you can and make any claims you want, you are free but anyone who observes your bad character, demonic boasting and lying attitude would take it a step further to verify you by asking you for ordination proofs. If you are of good character and the evidence of a mature Christian is seen in you, you might not be asked. For now, by your bad character and your inability to state clearly who ordained you, I can suspect you to be a yahoo evangelist until you prove me wrong. UPDATE:IF INDEED I HAVE EVER COLLECTED PASTORAL SALARIES USING MY PASTORAL CERTIFICATES, YOU'RE FREE FROM DEVINE JUDGEMENT, BUT IF THIS STATEMENT YOU MADE IS A LIE AGAINST MY PERSON, MAY THE ALMIGHTY GOD LOOK INTO IT AND JUDGE IT. MAY THE LORD JUDGE YOU FOR THIS FALSE STATEMENT. [ b]Now concerning Quora quotes and your JW false allegation against me, I will create a thread for it and you will answer all those questions you have been dodging. [/b]What do you even make of yourself? You think I would be following you from thread to thread especially with your bad character and lying attitude? I have other better things to do with my time okay. I don't have time for unprofitable arguments. JWs script their talks. Two ex members here have confirmed it. None of the members here have denied it. Both members and ex members on Quora have confirmed it. You are the only lone voice claiming otherwise. Case closed. I will be very ruthless in dealing with you for insulting me just because I asked you to explain something. Your over 23 years didn't teach you anything from the bible.Don't worry, I'm still playing with you hoping that you will get sensible and purport yourself. You would soon have a taste of how brutal I can get with pestilent personalities like you. I'll so deal deal with you that you break down and retrace your steps back to God if ever you really have met God indeed. I didn't ask you for your Ordination certificate because of a question you asked. You lying soul. You asked a question that was vague and practically unrelated to the matter at hand, I asked you to clarify your question since I did not understand what exactly the question was intended for. I did not even know the answer you wanted. You started insulting me and even said "I don't want to say you don't have sense.". I started querying you from that time effort. Thereafter you went ahead to tell me I'm fully and empty. Even saying I'm a wicked lying pastor after you told us how you became bitter at a Winners pastor who didn't give you money you begged him for. The demon possessed sons of the devil would always show themselves as useless souls lurking in the dark to deceive the gullible. They only have their boasting and shouting as proof of a call. If we ask someone to recommend you now as an evangelist, you will still find nobody because everyone knows you're demon possessed. You actually need deliverance. Nothing proves you to be a true evangelist. The fruits you bear are demonic. Infact, by talking boastfully, abusing a fellow human, lying and seeking to distort obvious facts, I can confidently say that a demon dwells in you. You're actually demon possessed and need urgent deliverance. "By their fruits you will know them", says the Lord Jesus. Galatians 5:22-23 "But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, temperance: against such there is no law." As long as we cannot see any of the above fruits in you, we would only verify you by your certificate. We want to know that man of God or Church who nurtured or trained someone of such devilish and satanic characters who now claims to be an evangelist. A yahoo evangelist at best. |
MaxInDHouse:Yeah, that's correct. You know I've never hated you. I don't have anything against you in spite of our disagreements. My heart is pure towards you. I don't abhor anything even when you blackmail me. I don't think any evil of you. I believe you also know this. I love everyone with the love of Christ, including you. |
MaxInDHouse:Alright. That's nice. |
MaxInDHouse:Lol. So, you have such a good sense of humor? |
MaxInDHouse:Lol. Okay, I thought she's your wife. |
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