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MaxInDHouse:
Now you're proving to be mischievous!

I told you that is my own personal discoveries not Watchtower so how do you expect them to swallow it? Each person will have to go and make his or her personal research on that Bible verse the point there is that true believers will have the same line of thought due to the BODY feeding them as one {Matthew 24:45} and these believers have sharp eyes like EAGLES to see from afar where their food is. Luke 17:37

If we all depend on whatever WATCHTOWER drops you will say we don't have our own mind now that i prove each person can make his or her own personal research you're demanding that all others must agree with me as if Kumuyi , Olukoya, Adeboye, Oyedepo, Oyakilome, Oritsejafor and the rest all agreed on the same discovery.

Now between you and i who is mischievous? [/quote]I think you also have an English comprehension issue. I told your brothers that you have a new light and asked them if they're in support. What's mischievous about that? You have poor English comprehension for sure.

So, since you've been known to be mischievous, you are actively looking for someone to carry the same tag as yours? Who doesn't know the mischiefs you do on this forum?

Aemmyjah:
Have u now seen why I call you my boy?
U told me to avoid conversations with you and you tag me

Is the so-called body of Christ today united
Are they completely loyal to Christ
Do they avoid wars and bloodshed and conflicts
Do they preach the goodnews of God's kingdom as only solution to man's problems
Do they honor God's name


Not everyone calling themselves Christian act like one and Jesus said he will dismiss many as criminals

I only know one body of Christ


So don't tag me in this stupid thread of you're not ready for what you don't like

A so called Christian like you that cannot answer a Muslim but invalidate the Bible and attribute errors to it

Now, regarding the Body of Christ. It did not start with Russel. The Body of Christ is bigger than any human organization. Meditate on that.

Aemmyjah:
Have u now seen why I call you my boy?
U told me to avoid conversations with you and you tag me

Is the so-called body of Christ today united
Are they completely loyal to Christ
Do they avoid wars and bloodshed and conflicts
Do they preach the goodnews of God's kingdom as only solution to man's problems
Do they honor God's name


Not everyone calling themselves Christian act like one and Jesus said he will dismiss many as criminals

I only know one body of Christ


So don't tag me in this stupid thread of you're not ready for what you don't like

A so called Christian like you that cannot answer a Muslim but invalidate the Bible and attribute errors to it

When did I tell you not to mention me again? Was it in your dream? Quote where I ever said that.

So, you mean that in order to validate the Bible, you need to lie about the Bible to make it true? A lie is a lie even if you told it to validate God. God would never support it. Listen, no one needs to help validate the Bible. The Worst of God in the Bible validated itself. The Word of God in the Bible is a living Being. He validated Himself. The Bible is just the medium through which men access the Word of God. The Bible is written by men who are imperfect. But the Word of God is God. The Word of God does not originate with men. It is Perfect.

MaxInDHouse:
He who has ears let him listen! Matthew 13:9

Ask any of your friends on this forum or go out there and show any member of Jehovah's Witnesses what i'm showing you here none of them has ever heard of this because it's not in any of WATCHTOWER publications!

So instead of arguing blindly like an hypocrite do your own personal research and get back to me on what Jesus meant in that verse.

Here is it again!

He was relating what will happen in our own time after he has been enthroned in heaven which happened in 1914 so true Christians will be going about their usual daily activities which is normal but God's Holy Spirit will be used to baptize some while others will not be anointed {Luke 17:31-35} that's when his disciples asked him:

"WHERE, LORD?"


And he responded with the words:

“Where the BODY is, there also the EAGLES will be gathered together" Luke 17:37


BODY means the Governing Body while EAGLES means foresighted ones who will feed on them which you know today as Jehovah's Witnesses.

Jesus said they are a FAITHFUL and DISCREET SLAVE that will be chosen in the final part of the days to FEED his domestics! Matthew 24:45

So stop wailing like a hypocrite and get to work prove me wrong by telling everyone what that verse means!

Michael547, Janosky, Cornelboy, Aemmyjah, please take note. Maxindhouse said he has brought you new light. You guys should enjoy.

For clarity, the body of Christ consists of all Believers in Christ Jesus from the beginning of the New Testament era until the end of time. Even those that are asleep are still part of His body. They'll all resurrect to meet Him in the sky at His coming.

However, the expression used by Christ regarding the gathering of the Eagles to the body was talking about the rapture. In that context, Christ Himself is the Body, and the Believers are the Eagles who gather unto Him at His coming.


Luke 17:33

20-35

"Once, on being asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, Jesus replied, “The coming of the kingdom of God is not something that can be observed, 21 nor will people say, ‘Here it is,’ or ‘There it is,’ because the kingdom of God is within you.”[c]
Then he said to his disciples, “The time is coming when you will long to see one of the days of the Son of Man, but you will not see it. People will tell you, ‘There He is!’ or ‘Here He is!’ Do not go running off after them. 24 For the Son of Man in his day will be like the lightning, which flashes and lights up the sky from one end to the other. 25 But first he must suffer many things and be rejected by this generation. “Just as it was in the days of Noah, so also will it be in the days of the Son of Man. People were eating, drinking, marrying and being given in marriage up to the day Noah entered the ark. Then the flood came and destroyed them all. “It was the same in the days of Lot. People were eating and drinking, buying and selling, planting and building. But the day Lot left Sodom, fire and sulfur rained down from heaven and destroyed them all. “It will be just like this on the day the Son of Man is revealed. On that day no one who is on the housetop, with possessions inside, should go down to get them. Likewise, no one in the field should go back for anything. Remember Lot’s wife!
Whoever tries to keep their life will lose it, and whoever loses their life will preserve it. I tell you, on that night two people will be in one bed; one will be taken and the other left. Two women will be grinding grain together; one will be taken and the other left.”

“Where, Lord?” they asked.

He replied, “Where there is a dead body, there the vultures will gather.”


Are you in support of your brother's new lights? Can you see his lies and deliberate manipulation of scriptures? May God have mercy on you all.

MaxInDHouse:
Your so called brother in your Lord is still with his claims that one of your men of God is fake you didn't go back to continue arguing with him to change his mind but here you are arguing blindly and calling me a liar for my own personal discoveries.

Now answer me:

Is it true that Olukoya and Reverend King are the same?

https://www.nairaland.com/8111427/olukoya-not-different-rev-king

That's courtesy OLAADEGBU your so called beloved brother, you're not out there arguing with him to prove him wrong.

That's what makes you a looser and a liar!

Many of your fellow brothers in your JW cult also believe you're fake. What difference does that make?

You don't need to bring Olukoya into the matter to save face. Did John preach that he was baptizing in order to make people obedient to a coming Kingdom? In what way did John make blunders similar to your failed prophecies regarding Jesus' coming? Why is it that only your organization is the one making such failed prophecies? They were failures in 1874, 1878 and 1914. Are they the only Christians? Why are they the only false prophets of Christ's coming? Only fake prophets put a date on the coming of Christ.

MaxInDHouse:
That's what we and all the holy ones in JW organization are asking them to tell us:

"WHERE" is the better spiritual food just as Jesus' apostles asked him in the Bible i am glad to tell you that Jesus said there's no other place than with the "BODY" that's where wise people with foresight like EAGLES gather!

And they answered and said unto him, WHERE, LORD? And he said unto them, Wheresoever the BODY is, thither will the eagles be gathered together. Luke 17:37 KJV

The Governing BODY of Jehovah's Witnesses!

Jesus Christ!

The lying governing body with all its failed prophecies, scripture manipulation and all manner of deceptive practices that has produced such a character as Maxindhouse is the Eagle of the global gathering of believers? Lol.. Joke of the Century.

MaxInDHouse:
Since you're biased nothing can help you now at least you've proved to be a LIAR claiming someone stole your 200k and you are going to involve the police.
That's enough to show the type of person you are:

Your lies have finished. Nowhere to hide again, it's now time for emotional and psychological wailings.

The Israelites has been expecting the Messiah for almost 2,000 years after Moses has revealed to them that this person will teach them the way to salvation {Deuteronomy 18-19} David, Isaiah, Jeremiah and Daniel revealed that the Messiah will rule over the whole world.
John appeared in the first century asking them to get baptized in preparation for the Messiah and you're here arguing that the baptism don't mean a preparation to welcome the Messiah's kingship when John himself began doubting Jesus as he didn't come to free him in prison.

Stop lying and bring sound biblical basis for these your lies! Baptism of repentance was all John preached. Not baptism as preparation for any kingdom. Did John preach it? Keep quiet and stop defending the lies preached by your satanic leaders that have always failed the test of time.

Abeg go and sit down with your perishing friends after all they don't care worshiping the true God sebi you are going from one religion to another with your lawless religion claiming you're a Christian! Matthew 7:21-23

If God shows you mercy, your eyes would open one day. How can you be so blind that even when you cannot defend your lies. you remain so adamant that you have to even resort to abuses and tantrums. May God have mercy on your soul.

MaxInDHouse:
Olódo! See illustration!

Poisoned food yet their families are eating the so called "POISON" but they're not able to save them neither are they able to present a better canteen where safe food is served.

Ọmọ come and learn the use of illustrations from Jehovah's Witnesses!

Don't try to deflect the matter. You understand the illustration isn't it? The message is passed. If their families don't listen to them, they can't force their families. You get it? The fact that they are able to bring sound biblical basis against your lies for which reason you now fear them commenting on your threads is a testament to the fact that they are getting better food to eat somewhere.

TenQ:
The problem of Muslims isn't just unbelieve alone but spiritual Blindness and failure of conscience!

Bro, they are all within the activities of the spirit of unbelief. The demon blinds the mind, sear the conscience and evoke anger in the hearer towards the preacher. He gets angry unnecessarily at you at some point and would not want to see your face at all. He could even become murderous just because you're speaking the Word of God to him. That's the demon of unbelief at work. It is the demon generally responsible for faithlessness and anti-God activities.

TenQ:
I agree perfectly with you. Islam is a spiritual disease: this is why they are very similar in the way they argue against the truth with the JW! No difference!

Unbelief itself is a demon spirit. It has the mission from Satan to block people from having faith even when they see truth.

Effective evangelism occurs when the preacher can first bind the spirit of unbelief in the life of his hearer before teaching him the Word of God.

TenQ:
To Muslims, the truth is not enough. This is exactly why they will deliberately negate a truth with their lies and fabrications so that Islam can escape the truth.

Do you think any sensible human being can say that Mohammed is the best example for mankind?

Is it possible for a man who flirts with the wife of his adopted son because the best example for mankind?

They're mere readers of truth. They are unable to know the truth because their minds are veiled. Theirs a bondage on it that must be broken. They're not in control of their own thoughts. The devil is a master of his craft.

achorladey:
He said so using this account....

When Jesse and his sons arrived, Samuel saw Eliab and thought, “Surely this is the man who the LORD has chosen.” But the LORD said to Samuel, “Eliab is tall and handsome, but don't judge by things like that. God doesn't look at what people see.

Hahahaha. He and Maxindhouse are just the same. That's not a brainier anyway. He is the role model of Maxindhouse.

TenQ:
I am aware of their arguments.

Modern islamic scholars are embarrassed by this: thus they try to change the narrative.


Here is what one of their most trusted scholars said

Tafsir Qur'an 18.83 Jalal - Al-Jalalayn
And they, the Jews, question you concerning Dhū’l-Qarnayn, whose name was Alexander; he was not a prophet. Say: ‘I shall recite, relate, to you a mention, an account, of him’, of his affair

Al-Jalalayn is a Muslim scholar not a Christian!

So, Dhul-Qarnayn is Alexander the Great: a bisexual and Idolater. Allah spoke to him and gave him an assignment in the Qur'an

Thanks bro for the clarification.

achorladey:
People that decide to travel abroad, then naturalise there means they cannot follow updates or be informed about what is happening elsewhere

He knows that we are exposing the lies and manipulations too much. He wants us to keep mute.

Of course. He doesn't want anyone to expose his lies . He wants to be the only one talking.

oteneaaron:
He has to LIE because that is his natural way of speaking.

Moreso, when you get baptized as a Jehovah's Witness, you are basically swearing an oath to the organization.

Here are the questions you are asked during a JW baptism (you have to answer YES) -

(1) “Have you repented of your sins, dedicated yourself to Jehovah, and accepted his way of salvation through Jesus Christ?”

(2) “Do you understand that your baptism identifies you as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses in association with Jehovah’s organization?”

Whereas this is in complete contrast to the simple yet powerful process of baptism found at Mathew 28 VS 19 -

"Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit"

All cults are like that. You can't be a member without swearing an oath of allegiance.

MaxInDHouse:
Is it Islam that doesn't have what i can expose?

Ọ̀DẸ̀!

When you leave something you're supposed to move forward and not backward, let them continue living in the past honest hearted and sincere people are thinking of the way forward jọọ!

Since you're bereft of love for perishing souls, I'll not fault you for abusing me.

You're not a Christian! Simple!

Let me tell you the truth. If you know that people who go into a certain canteen you just left would become unfortunate to eat poisoned food which you just escaped from, would you move on without telling anyone you met on the way to the Canteen about the dangers of the food in there? Love for souls who are about to make the same mistakes you made by following a false religion would never allow you to move on especially when you see agents spreading their dangerous nets wide to catch more gullible souls.

You're just not a Christian. You're merely practicing religion. You don't know God.

2 Cor. 5:14
"For Christ’s love compels us, because we are convinced that one died for all, and therefore all died."

And if Christ died for all, it is our duty to work actively to deliver the unsuspecting man or woman from the jaws of deceivers like Maxindhouse and his JW cult.

This is what they're doing here. They won't move on. You can move on regarding Islam only because you don't know God. You're a mere religionist.

MaxInDHouse:
Baptism is just a joke shey?

Ọmọ continue deceiving yourself!

You're the one deceiving yourself. Did John say he was baptizing to reveal Jesus as the king of a kingdom to which the people must submit? Answer! Tell us where you picked that lie from.

MaxInDHouse:
What is the significance of his baptizing work?

Ọmọ they all believe that once the Messiah comes he will take over the world power and destroy all evildoers just as it's written in the scriptures! Daniel 2:44

So the baptism is a sign of obedience to the law and preparation to welcome the Messiah as obedient subjects under his kingdom.

That's the significance of his baptizing work otherwise nobody would there waste their time going to meet him if nothing is at stake.

Get that straight and stop deceiving yourself!

This is a lie! Did John ever preach that? That's the question. You're not the one to tell us the purpose of His baptism. Don't tell us what John did not say. John himself already told us why he was baptizing. Why add to his words?

John 1:30-32

"30 This is he of whom I said, After me cometh a man which is preferred before me: for he was before me. 31 And I knew him not: but that he should be made manifest to Israel, therefore am I come baptizing with water. 32 And John bare record, saying, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode upon him. 33 And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost. 34 And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God"

Why are you lying!

John said "I came baptizing people to reveal Him to Israel as He who baptizes with the Holy Ghost, and I bear Him record that this is the Son of God." (Paraphrased).

"Where on earth did John say I came to reveal Him to you so that you can recognize Him and be obedient to His Kingdom"?

Must you lie to make your points? Even lying against John the Baptist so that he can become equatable with your lying GBs?

MaxInDHouse:
Who is lying here?

I LEFT Islam for Jehovah's Witnesses because i have seen something of higher value among the JWs so if they've left God's organization then why are they still following the organization up to date nah?

Ọmọ is this how low your IQ?

Why aren't they talking about their new found faith or church but always what they learned in Jehovah's Witnesses organization and not only the old things but updates from time to time.

As i'm talking to you now there are many things that has changed over the years in Islam that i don't know because when i left it was for good but here are people who said they have left only to keep updates on all the things the organization is doing.

Na so you mumu reach?

Yes, let me mumu if that's what is called mumu okay? You can be proud of that too.

In what way have they been following updates about the organization? These people have known the truth, and are here to expose the lies of the organization so that others would not fall victims of the organization they were once victims of!

Is that what you call 'following updates'? Na wá for you o.

MaxInDHouse:
How old are you?

Old enough to know you've been lying that the people opposing your group here are still members of your group.

They have categorically said they no longer belong. You insisted they still belong. Now prove that they still belong.

TenQ:
Modern Muslims are struggling to deny Alexander the Great now o!

Someone among them just did. He said Alexander was never a prophet of Islam.

TenQ:
Amen!

However, it takes more than the Truth to set a Muslim free. Unless they receive mercy, the Truth doesn't move them one bit.

Otherwise, droves of them would have left Islam since the inception of Nairaland Christian session

I don't think so. Truth would free them but it is one thing to read the truth, and it's another thing to know it. The read the truth but fail to know the truth. The Bible has described their situation well.

2 Timothy 3:7
"Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth."

achorladey:
The liar will keep rolling lies upon lies. He is struggling hard to equate his religious leaders and f today with John. That's how one of them said Samuel is a False prophet just to cover up the fact that their religious leaders are caught in false prophesy

So, how did the satanic leader prove Samuel a false prophet?

achorladey:
To keep the man made religious organization going they must know their craft well. If you are familiar with the book 1984 by George Orwell you will understand how they keep the lies and manipulations intact. The concept of lies sold to them is telling their members God has an organization. In fact you will see them saying members should have relationship with God and his organization.

Where did you see any of such falsehood preached by the apostles?

Have relationship with God and His organization? Who told them God has an organization?

achorladey:
You see how you catch the liar and manipulator

He must look for every means to drag you into his way and mode of operation

He deliberately cut off the rest of my comment and left the part he wanted to manipulate. He knew he had to isolate that part for the manipulation to work. Maxindhouse is just too tricky with his lies.

MaxInDHouse:
The beginning of the good news about Jesus Christ, the Son of God: Just as it is written in Isaiah the prophet: “(Look! I am sending my messenger ahead of you, who will prepare your way.) A voice of one crying out in the wilderness: ‘Prepare the way of Jehovah! Make his roads straight.’” John the Baptizer was in the wilderness, PREACHING baptism in symbol of repentance for forgiveness of sins. Mark 1:1-4

With the two highlighted oya CORRECT yourself!

Stop manipulating my words. John didn't preach anything to them about what we were discussing which was the matter of Christ reigning as King.

Is the preaching of baptism and repentance the same as preaching that Christ has come to reign as King over Israel? Show me where John preached that Christ has come to reign as King over Israel. He had wrong expectations but never made a wrong declaration.

Ohyoudidnt:
Is what you term the premise separate from the question or in the question?

Now, this is what you said below. Where's the question about idolizing someone?

Is your faith blind or you don't have the capacity to reason independently and only follow what who you idolize tell You?

Ohyoudidnt:
I believe you understand what this sign ? means in a sentence.

The question was premised on the fact that there was someone I was idolizing. You never asked, are you idolizing someone?

Ohyoudidnt:
Alexander the great is not a prophet of Islam and was never said to be.

Have you found your psalms equivalent in the Quran?


Is your faith blind or you don't have the capacity to reason independently and only follow what who you idolize tell You?

You categorically insulted me by telling me I idolized someone. Did you ask me if I idolized anybody?

Ohyoudidnt:
Alexander the great is not a prophet of Islam and was never said to be.

Have you found your psalms equivalent in the Quran?


Is your faith blind or you don't have the capacity to reason independently and only follow what who you idolize tell You?

You don't need to abuse me or my faith. I only asked you a question! Why are you getting so agitated?

TenQ said he is a prophet in Islam. I'm sure He has his proofs.

I have read that verse myself regarding the "you will not leave my soul in the grave nor suffer your holy one to see corruption" in the Quran online. I'll search it out and bring it.

achorladey:
You are giving him room to advance lies and manipulations about John. That's how he was busy lying against Peter and the Holy spirit just to defend his 9 men housed in USA that his GODS of men can ERR like them too. They didn't teach or preach nonsense about the coming of Jesus Christ. He. John didn't make false predictions or prophesy about Jesus coming. John didn't go about ridiculing Christ coming with dates

Abi.

He only had expectations. He never even announced to the people that Christ has come to start a kingdom. He only showed them that Christ was the expected Messiah which was very correct.

Maxindhouse, tell us where John ever announced to the millions of Jews you were referring to that Christ has come to reign as king over them. To the best of our knowledge, it was just an expectation of John. He never preached or announced it like the JW are doing in their failed prophecies.

oteneaaron:
Very true.

Jehovah's Witnesses are PATHOLOGICAL LIARS.

The doctrine of 1914 was initially an "end of the world" prophecy by Charles Taze Russell.

It was after the prophecy failed that they made a quick switch to begin calling it "the start of the last days".

Here are some evidences from their own publications to prove this -

"But bear in mind that the end of 1914 is not the date for the beginning, but for the end of the time of trouble. Zion's Watch Tower 1894 Jul 15 p.226

"In view of this strong Bible evidence concerning the Times of the Gentiles, we consider it an established truth that the final end of the kingdoms of this world, and the full establishment of the Kingdom of God, will be accomplished by the end of A.D. 1914." Studies in the Scriptures - The Time is at Hand (1889) 1911 ed. p.99

"… the battle of the great day of God Almighty … The date of the close of that "battle" is definitely marked in Scripture as October, 1914. [/b]It is already in progress, its beginning dating from October, 1874. ... [b]The Scriptures show also that the battle of the great day will begin with the church of God, and that the overthrow of the great nominal church systems will precede the overthrow of the present civil powers; for the Lord is about to shake, not only the earth (the civil organisation for society), but heaven (the ecclesiastical powers) also (Heb. 12:26), to the end that great "Babylon," falsely called Christendom -Christ's kingdom- may be completely destroyed. " Zion's Watch Tower 1892 Jan 15 pp.21-23

It is no surprise that MaxInDHouse and his cohorts are known for shamelessly spreading LIES - it is a trait they all share from the Governing Body down to the rank and file JW.

Back then when I was a member of this religion and decided to do my research into the history of the religion, was when I learnt about many of their FAILED PROPHECIES.

Deuteronomy 18 VS 21 & 22 was what gave me the boldness to stand strong and reject this religion, their Governing Body and their endless LIES -

"And if you say in your heart, `How may we know the word which the LORD has not spoken?'

When a prophet speaks in the name of the LORD, if the word does not come to pass or come true, that is a word which the LORD has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously, you need not be afraid of him." - RSV

There is no need to be afraid of the Governing Body nor to be afraid of been shunned for rejecting their false prophecies and endless LIES.

CC: Emusan, Courz, FxMasterz, Wumiwumi100, JohnW47

For more context on their failed prophecies of 1914, see this article - https://jwfacts(dot) com/watchtower/failed-1914-predictions.php

*remove the (dot)

What I've discovered is that the JW GBs have mastered the art of Words. Word art is their fort. They are very eloquent and gifted talkers and writers. That skill, they combined with another skill in deception and manipulation of words coupled with an indepth knowledge of human psychology to fleece millions of gullible souls.