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jaephoenix:
Are you also aware Muslims and other religions have testimonies like these? That means their gods are legit too. And if theirs is legit, yours is fake cos there could be only one god

My God has proven Himself in divers ways. You see, the Egyptian Magicians too performed miracles but the rod of Moses swallowed up theirs when they were turned to serpents, and infact their so called miracles have limits.

See, they have their rocks but they themselves know that their rock is not like our ROCK.

Deuteronomy 32:31
"For their rock is not as our Rock, even our enemies themselves being judges."

What we do by simply issuing commands in the name of Jesus, they do by engaging themselves in lengthy incantations and rituals after spending days gathering fetish materials for a miracle that never lasts.

johnw47:
it's amazing how Talktalk2022 scams people and then accuses them of scamming
he has accused many on these forums of scamming

No bro. He didn't scam me. He falsely accused me of being a scammer on a thread I created. I had to caution him but he insisted. So, I counter-accused him too. That what was happened. The matter has been resolved as I have recently apologized to him as a Christian. Maxindhouse knows we have settled the matter but he brought it out to because he thinks by doing so, he would stop me from further commenting on this thread.

MaxInDHouse:
Please did this guy truly as in TRULY defrauded you of ₦200,00.00?



Please answer so i can have a very high regard for you and whatever you think, say or do on this forum.

May you have PEACE!

I don't want to go into matters that are already dead.

But before you asked me this question, did you first ask the guy if I scammed him before he accused me? If you never asked him that question, carry your hypocrisy away. He was the first to make a false claim, and after explaining to him, he refused to correct himself, I had to accuse him in return so that people who read our conversations would know it is a troll and not a real accusation. If I didn't accuse him in return, his accusations would be a false tag on my personality. Wisdom demands that I convert his false accusations into a trolling conversation. Otherwise I would be called what I'm not.

DeusXmachina:
Didn't really say placebo cures diseases, I only gave an example with the alleviation of symptoms such as headaches to demonstrate some of the effects of believing something and feeling of wellness. However I did primarily say general optimism does have positive effects on health outcomes. I made these points to demonstrate that I think a person can genuinely report feeling better after something like prayer, but I attribute these to the mind.

Again tho these are your claims, understand that I have no personal reason to believe you and you're evidently not an unbiased observer giving me a retelling.

It's at least good the child is doing alright.
I wouldn't blame a mother for not having documentation as she wouldn't be involved in a debate of proving the power of prayer here because that would be strange, and rather she'd just be more worried about her kid and doing what she believes is right for the child. Neither would I really blame you if it was a spur of the moment thing and you genuinely believe you're helping people by it.

However discussing anecdotes of the supernatural's existence and effects such as healing untreated illness can only go so far, what is needed is hard verifiable data, not stories. Let's not forget about the existence of actual con men that stage things and lie for attention or profit.

Like wouldn't it be awesome if someone was medically diagnosed with brain cancer, and we had that verifiable documentation, and the person went to church and had prayer, only to go back to a hospital and get checked again and we find the cancer gone with no medical treatment and we also have verifiable documentation of that also for example?
It wouldn't be complete proof for specific claims as there are some unaccounted variables, but it would be a genuine start to changing a skeptical mind. At least it would make me reexamine my current beliefs.

I do not expect you to believe me and I do not think you should expect me to believe you either. You cannot say categorically that all healings are a product of some alterations in the mind. I have given you a reason to research deeper into your current beliefs. All those who come for healings have doctors reports regarding their ailments. Pastors don't ask for such reports before laying hands on people. This is the reason why people like you could doubt such healings until you have a personal experience.

Kobojunkie:
1. I am glad you and I know how ridiculous your untimely death idea is since you are unable to offer specifics to define it. Consider the case of a 98-year-old who was murdered by his nurse. Was his case an untimely death or a natural death?

Go and rest. If you don't understand what untimely death is, ask elders around. Stop disturbing me on this. Whatsoever God does is forever. Why are you fixated on death as if it's only dead men that are raised? Are you afraid of death?

2. That is a dumbass implication in this case similar to the one you made earlier regarding what was stated in Ecclesiastes 3 vs 14. Please quit your mindless babbling at this point. YHWH is All-Powerful because He created all things in Heaven and on Earth. The rod does not have YHWH's power in it but YHWH has power over it because He created it. Again, pay careful attention to the order of things.

God has power over all things, and all powers including what other beings wield are His. He is Almighty because He is the source of all powers that exist. All those who are might were made mighty by Him. And they'll give account unto Him at the end of time regarding the power He has bestowed Upon them.

[quote[3. Stop deceiving yourself! The same Jesus Christ equally said the following in His Gospels.
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If you have ever in fact read the book for yourself, you would know this but I guess it is merely ok to create these threads that are pretty much timewasters than spend time actually reading through to get a good grasp of what is in fact written of God, right?

These signs shall follow them.... was never intended by Jesus Christ who equally said the following.... ...as a benchmark for determining those who belong to Him. You asserting, against Jesus Christ, that it serves as proof that you do not accept Jesus Christ at all. [/quote]Keep deceiving yourself. It was Jesus that tod us the SIGNS that identifies Believers. Do you know what the word 'Signs' mean?

DeusXmachina:
All I have are your claims to go off of which don't mean much to me.
Do you have medical documentation of before and after you prayed for the kid?

Placebo effect, and the impact of Mood & Optimism on health recovery are well documented.
People with headaches have been given sugar pills and told they were painkillers, and have had those symptoms go away.
And people who've had surgery, and had a positive outlook and positive support wether it was blind optimism, or a belief that their god will not let them down, have been shown to have quicker recovery over someone that's negative.
The mind has a substantial impact on the body and health, though not enough to heal an untreated disease, the immune system can't normally fight off like cancer or a parasite.
So I don't doubt a person could genuinely report feeling better after prayer, or some type of religious services.

I can't verify your story, but if true I hope the woman still got her child checked and he's doing better.

Come meet me live on the field and you'll see something. Would I be asking for doctor's report before praying for needy people? Jesus heals. I have never heard of any occasion where placebo effect healed anybody of elephantiasis.

Of course, till I left Ilorin in about 5 years later, the boy had a normal leg and was able to mix well with fellow kids. Meanwhile before I prayed for him, the mother was always backing him and wrapping his leg under clothes so it would not be seen. I prayed for him when he was about 3 or 4 years old. I didn't ask his age.

Kobojunkie:
1. Stop lying! 🤔

I've heard it many times from liars! I asked you questions and quoted scriptures, what was the lie?

Even people who lose their loved ones at age 70 equally complain of them going too early. So, be specific! There are cases where autopsies of deaths of people in their 70s/80s have shown that some were murdered or died of sickness and diseases even then. So this wooroo-wooroo no fly! Define your idea of untimely death so we are on the same page here. And where in Scripture did God of Israel or Jesus Christ specify that when a person is raised from death 🤔

I'm not defining untimely death to an adult. If you're a kid, I'll understand.

[quote[2. It is amazing that one who claims to believe in the God of Israel — YHWH — is asking me this question. YHWH is written as the one who created all things, and it is indicated He is sovereign over all of His creation, His omnipotence— All-Powerfulness—is implied as a result. Regarding scripture, YHWH is said to be All-Powerful because He wields power and control over all He created. Now, tell me, what was not created by YHWH that has power besides that which is YHWH? 🤔[/quote]So by implication, Yahweh created the rod of Moses for Moses?

3. I doubt you understand the meaning of the verse you quote or even He whose power you compare it to. Jesus Christ was not there telling His followers that the power He bestowed on them made them equal to YHWH so I am quite shocked that you would quote such as an explanation for God's All-powerfulness. 🤔

Kobojunkie, leave all the mindless babblings.

Jesus said we'll tread over all the 'power' of the enemies. God gave power in measures to all his creations including human beings.

Back to what I said earlier, Jesus Christ made clear even Judas was bestowed with the power to do signs and wonders, but Judas did not belong to Jesus Christ as he belonged instead to the devil; this much is quite clear. So to continue using signs and wonders as the yardstick for deciding who belongs to Jesus Christ and who doesn't belong to Jesus Christ proves you know nothing of Jesus Christ or the Father, YHWH, God of Israel.

Signs and wonders prove that God is real. That's why Jesus said "Jesus therefore said to him, “Unless you see signs and wonders, you will in no way believe.” John 4:18.

Then he said: "These signs shall follow them that believe..."

achorladey:
That's why we do tell them that when they see apostasy they won't know it because it must be unity at all cost irrespective of the apostasy

Where unity is more important than Truth, apostasy becomes the order of the day.

What do they even mean by the term New Light? Do the Old and New lights come from the same Bible?

Emusan:
That is why they have to coin the word NEW LIGHT"

another thing is, you will see them saying multiple time Holy spirit this, Holy spirit that... and the same time, trying to claim THEY WERE NOT INSPIRED!

Holy spirit as made this verse known...

How?

Did you hear a voice? No!
Did you see it in vision? No!
Did you see it through dream? No!
Did Holy spirit appear in any form to do that? No!

So, how did Holy spirit reveal the meaning of this verse then?

Just like their 1914.

"Jesus came to earth in 1914 inspect ALL THE RELIGIONS ON EARTH but couldn't found any but only small group of Bible study students.

Q. Who was with Jesus when Jesus was inspecting all the religions?
A. Nobody!

Q. How did watchtower know that then?
A. I'm very sure Jesus did.

Q. Did Jesus tell Watchtower by Himself?
A. No!

Q. Did Jesus reveal it to Watchtower through dream?
A. No!

Q. Did Jesus reveal it to Watchtower through vision?
A. No!

So, how did Watchtower know that?
Ans: we just know Jesus did.

Chai!

This is too hilarious.

"We just know Jesus did."

Hmmmmmm.

Emusan:
The best weapon against Watchtower it's her own publications.

Bring different publications from Watchtower together, you will the glaring contradictions, manipulations and twisting of God's word.

After reading diverse publications from them on this forum in recent times, I started having the organization in a very low esteem.

achorladey:
Their own definition of being faithful and discreet they cannot follow and yet want others to follow them.


Their religious leaders look at their subjects and just hammer it down. Obey us with no questions asked even when what we tell you are lies. Obey at all cost to maintain unity.

@The bolded, I can't stop laughing.

Unity is more important than Truth.

AntiChristian:
Where did i say or insinuate this? Jesus did encode his teachings in parables and decided to explain to his disciples who asked of the meanings later! All those he had taught who didn't understand and where not able to ask will be doomed as Jesus wanted! See the bolded and red colored verses below.

Mark 4:10-12
When he was alone, the Twelve and the others around him asked him about the parables. He told them, "The secret of the kingdom of God has been given to you. But to those on the outside everything is said in parables so that," 'they may be ever seeing but never perceiving, and ever hearing but never understanding; otherwise they might turn and be forgiven!'

How does that translate to deception? The things of God are revealed only to those who search for it like the disciples did. A thirst and a hunger for God is all you need to receive the things of God. If you do not desire God, God would not force His knowledge upon you.

This is illogical and doesn't fit into the discuss. No one paid Jesus to teach anybody!
A teacher is to teach while he receives payment for his services!

Quiet the same! Whether a paid or unpaid teacher, once the student does not understand, it means the teacher deceived him? I fully remember that in my school days, sometimes our teachers deliberately leave a lot of puzzles to us unsolved because they want us to research deeply and find answers by ourselves. Does that mean they were deceiving us?

He didn't call all his audience such! Jesus abused some of his audience because some asked for signs! It wasn't because of unseriousness! They asked for signs and he refused to give them. Others asked for miracles and he gave them without even preaching anything!

Was it because they asked for signs or because of the character of those who asked for signs? He said "a perverse and adulterous generation a sign but no sign would be given to them but the sign of Jonah..." That is an unserious generation who hears the word for fun only but never apply their hearts to it.

Deception is the act of causing someone to accept as true or valid what is false or invalid! Whenever Jesus Preached people do not understand him and they usually understood opposite of what he preached! And this is because he uses parables.

So, by using parables He presented He presented falsehood to them?

And Jesus said a time will come he will stop using such parables again!

That was for the disciples who were seekers. Not for those who never sought after the knowledge of God. The purpose of parables is to build curiosity in the mind of the hearer so that he'll search out diligently for knowledge and find it. By this, the seekers find, while the unserious are filtered out.

achorladey:


cc: Emusan, Oteneaaron, Courz, FxMasterz

To see how they love to project their failures and failings on others is captured below....



What does the premature ideas and eager questions asked by the tourist have to do with an experienced guide in a zoo guiding the tourist to having a safe and enjoyable tour?

Someone is now saying Jesus began ruling in 1914 and that last day began in 1914



They do things without the guidance of holy spirit and what they call truth during those times are not the truth since the holy spirit didn't guide them into it.

Jesus clearly told the disciples when they were asking Him questions regarding the timing of His Kingdom:

Acts 1:7
"He said to them: “It is not for you to know the times or dates the Father has set by his own authority"

Questions:

1. Who gave the authority to the so called 'tourists' (Governing body) to manufacture their own ideas and announce same as that of the Holy Spirit to the whole world?

2. How can the so called tourists who failed many times in prophecies regarding the coming of Christ be accurate about the 'Christ started ruling in 1914' nonsense?

3. Can those who cannot be trusted for the fulfillment of earthly events be trusted for heavenly events?

4. If their earthly calculations about the return of Christ has failed woefully several times, what is the guarantee that their earthly calculations that 'Christ's ruling in heaven starting in 1914' is not a failure too?

5. Would it be wrong to assert that if Christ's coming was not physically verifiable, these people would have maintained that the rapture has indeed taken place, the same way they're arrogantly shouting that Jesus started ruling in 1914 in heaven which is not verifiable?

achorladey:
Compare and contrast how they speak from both side of their mouth highlighted in the bold.





With





Emphasis on the bold part.

cc: Emusan, FxMasterz, Oteneaaron, Courz

Hahaha.

...although God’s people (aka Governing Body) sometimes try to work out details of Jehovah’s purpose before it is time for the holy spirit to guide them to such truths, it is clear that Jesus is leading them.

"They do try to work out details before the Holy Spirit guides them, yet it is clear that Jesus is leading them." Chai!

TenQ:
Thank God you now acknowledge that you'd be in the fire before Allah would remove them at a later time?
And
What matters to me is that Allah says that his slaves will enter the Fire with the evildoers!


1. Why would Allah's slaves first need to enter the fire?
2. Since the time you will spend in the fire is undetermined (10 years, 10 thousand years, 10 million years etc): doesn't it concern you that the Best of the Deceivers is just tricking you into the eternal fire?
3. Finally, why do you think Allah will use Jews and Christians as a ransom for you Muslims from hell fire?

How can any sane human being believe these loads of trash?

These promises have scam written all over them.

AntiChristian:
Don't try to cover it up. Jesus was talking to everyone with parables! Not everyone he was talking to were unserious! Nowhere in the Bible does it state that everyone he was talking to was unserious!

The logic is not applicable to me! I paid to be taught by the teacher! And that's a contract to serve!

John 16:25
"Though I have been speaking figuratively (paroimia), a time is coming when I will no longer use this kind of language but will tell you plainly about my Father.

Where did you see your unserious audience? Jesus was speaking like that and he said he will stop it at a later time. It doesn't depend on the audience!

1. So, a person does not have the right to communicate to his audience the way he choses?

2. Because you paid to be taught by the teacher, whenever you don't understand what he teaches, he has deceived you?

3. Jesus described His audience in many languages such as 'generation of vipers', 'perverse generation', etc., which shows they were not serious. Many times they even attempted to trap Him. If He talks to them in parables, is that deception?

4. Show me any dictionary where it is said that speaking in parables is deception! Do it fast!

Kobojunkie:
Again, First of all, which one is not an untimely death? Death at age 70? Age 80? Age 90? Age 100? Age 120? Which? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Again every human being knows it when someone dies young.

2. Ah! So, born-agains are not people who have left this life and have been imbued instead with Eternal Life as Jesus Christ said?

Tell me what makes you think this awkwardly.

3. Please answer the question. Third and most important of all, where in Scripture is it written that if one is raised from the dead, one will not die this untimely death?😶😶😶😶🤐🤐🤐

Answer the question, where did you and I start being specific only the raising of the dead is what God does forever.

4. So, God's statement which is that "All Power belongs to Him" is warped logic? Why not simply come out and say you don't believe in the God of Israel and Jesus Christ then? Why pretend you do when all you claim contradicts almost every one of His many claims? 🤔

When did God say that no one else has any power except Himself?

Jesus said: Luke 10:19

"Behold, I give you the authority to trample on serpents and scorpions, and over [b]all the power of the enemy, and nothing shall by any means hurt you."

And how in the world did you twist the term Almighty into meaning that there are mighties but God is mightiest among them all? 🤔

If you don't understand what God's Almighty power means, see Luke 10:19 for clarity.

jaephoenix:
Telescopes, Gene analyzers, Mass spectrometers etc, for starters

When did you and I discuss those instructions?

jaephoenix:
Please which instrument did you use to check for Loch Ness, Big Foot etc?

Which instrument did you advertise to me?

jaephoenix:
Neither did you answer all of mine

That's a lie. There's none of your questions I didn't answer. Name the question.

Kobojunkie:
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

First of all which one is not an untimely death? Death at age 70? Age 80? Age 90? Age 100? Age 120?[/size] Which? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Every human being knows it when a person has died young. I wouldn't bother to answer you.

Second, recall that Jesus Christ said all those who become born-again are essentially given a brand new life— an eternal one as opposed to a temporal one. Does this mean that all those among his disciples who died to the temporary life and were raised in the new with Him yet died early were not born again? Stephen, James, etc., were not born-again?

The question is unnecessary because we're not talking about being born again or the things that happen to born again people.

Third and most important of all, where in Scripture is it written that if one is raised from the dead, one will not die this untimely death?😶😶😶😶🤐🤐🤐

Did you read that verse that says "Whatsoever God does is forever?" Why are you particular about death of all things that God does for man? Are you afraid of death?

2. Interesting ideas! You believe that apart from God there are other powers out there meaning that when God declared that all Powers belong to Him — they all go through Him essentially — God fibbed? 🤐🤐🤐

This is actually warped logic. Is God not Almighty? If God is Almighty, then it means there are 'mighties' but only God is Almighty.

Kobojunkie:
So, you are saying that Jesus Christ fibbed when He instead said, right there in that passage, that He never knew these workers of iniquity?

If working miracles is iniquity, do you mean Jesus was working iniquity all the while He worked miracles?

Kobojunkie:
Again, Judas was able to heal the sick and cast out demons as well. Now if you go back to what Jesus Christ said in Matthew 7, you will see that indeed it does not matter how many miracles and signs of wonders a person does at all, these were never meant as proof of Jesus Christ just as Jesus Christ Himself said. But here you are showcasing these very same as proof and evidence for Jesus Christ. Clearly, you don't know Jesus Christ since what you assert is opposite of what He in fact taught His followers.

When you work miracles in Christ's name and He does it, that's the proof that Christ is real. The person who called on Christ may fail in his persona walk with God as Judas did. That does not mean God didn't work through him.

Kobojunkie:
1. Um....Healings, casting out of demons, raising from the dead... are some of the mercies of the God of Israel.

2. You mean like, "Once raised from the dead will never die again, right?" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Come on!

3. Na your own words I dey try to understand though. You mentioned the rod as evidence for your claim that God's work is forever, I am like does that mean the rod was some sort of eternal rod of some kind?

Your logic is very faulty. Once raised from the dead cannot mean the person cannot die again. It means he cannot die untimely again.

God's work is forever because the affliction that was terminated cannot happen again in the lifetime of the afflicted.

Kobojunkie:
😂Judas was able to heal the sick and cast our demons too.

So were the other disciples.

Kobojunkie:
That may apply as far as your religious gods of men but what you continue to assert does not apply as far as the God of Israel, and Jesus Christ. These claims of yours violate Jesus Christ in so many ways.

!b]Did you know that Judas was equally sent out by Jesus Christ to cast out demons, heal the sick, etc. - Matthew 10 vs 1 - 4? [/b]

And so?

Kobojunkie:
This is why I say your religious folks do not worship the God of Israel or His Son, Jesus Christ.

1. The God of Israel said He will have mercy on whoever He chooses to have mercy on. He had mercy on Pharaoh, Nebuchadnezzar, Nineveh, etc., all of them non-Israelites and hence non-worshippers of Him. The God of Israel has mercy on all of mankind daily(including the idol worshippers and the wicked). This means that everyone on the planet experiences his mercy regularly. There is no such thing as "those who receive God's mercy and those who don't". God of Israel made clear that He pours out His mercy on both the wicked and the ungrateful. Everything is from God regardless of its source. However, it is not from Jesus Christ who instead made clear that the mercies are instead from God.

So when the God of Israel has mercy on people, He would do nothing for them? Answer my question.

2. Are you certain that you have a clear understanding of what the author meant in that context? Think carefully about what you read. God created human beings but humans do not live for eternity nor will they all endure to eternity. Does that mean that statement in Ecclesiastes is invalid?

Whatever God does, abides forever. That means it never fails at any time. Once healed, forever healed.

3. You did not answer the question. Does that same rod currently exist somewhere today? Was it meant as an eternal rod? Yes or No?

Where did you read that the rod was an eternal rod? Did God create The rod? The rod swallowed up that of the magicians. Who among them got his rod back till today?

Chrisrare:
Your analogy does not tally with the discussion. According to the Bible, Jesus said in John 14:12-14

''Very truly I tell you, whoever believes in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father. And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it".

Jesus never restricted any of his believers to only casting of demons. You just made that up.

The children of God grow in the Spirit as the children of men grow in the physical. As I grow, a time would come when I would do higher things. Presently by the grace of God, I can cast out devils and do healing. When I have higher assignments, I'll be able to deliver on them too. For now, that's what I'm sent to do.

Kobojunkie:
So, miracles happen every day and everywhere not because God Himself said He will have mercy on whomever He wishes, even on the wicked and the ungrateful but because in your mind there are originals and there are fakes?

So, God would not do miracles in the lives of those on whom He has had mercy? Then, what would be the difference between those who receive God's mercy and those who don't? God performs miracles everyday on all those on whom He has bestowed mercy.

2. Where in Scripture did you get the statement in bold from abeg? Are you somehow trying to tell me that Moses's rod which swallowed up the others exists even to this day and will forever?

Ecclesiastes 3:14
"I know that, whatsoever God doeth, it shall be for ever:"

The rod was called Moses' rod for a reason. It abode with Moses until his death. He climbed to the top of Pisgah with it. Did the rods swallowed by Moses' rod ever return to the magicians who owned them? The magicians lost their rods, and they lost them forever.

Kobojunkie:
This is instead Jesus Christ who is the Word of God.

3. Jesus Christ said those who believe in Him will do the good(righteous) works He did. He did not say those works were works of healing and casting out demons though. The same Jesus Christ is recorded in Matthew 7 to have made clear that those whose focus is on doing wonders and signs are not of Him.
The signs revealed in Mark 16 are signs that follow those who believe in Jesus Christ. They are by no means of good works and not that which Jesus Christ said His Followers would do so much more of.

Miracles, signs and wonders, healings, etc., happen to voodoo believers, witches, atheists, agnostics, etc., every single day on this planet to confirm what the God of Israel said which is that He will show mercy to those who He wishes to show mercy and He will do it every day.

Miracles, signs and wonders, healings, etc., happen to voodoo unbelievers, witches, atheists, agnostics, etc., every single day because wherever there is an original, there'll be many counterfeits. The difference is that "Whatsoever God doeth, it abideth forever." The ones that the people you listed do are always ephemeral. Go and research. Moses' rod swallowed up others because the others were counterfeits.

Mark 16:16-18
"He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover."

Kobojunkie:
I hate this religious story telling.

1. In the first one, you conveniently ignored the major command given them which is to teach to the people the very same commandments and teachings He gave to them.

2. In the statement taken from Mark 16, Jesus Christ said the signs listed in Mark 16 vs 16 - 18 were signs that followed those who believed in Him; the signs in question were not signs that confirmed God's presence in the lives of those who were healed by his followers but rather signs that they, His followers, were believers in Him.

3. Jesus Christ said those who believe in Him will do the good(righteous) works He did. He did not say those works were works of healing and casting out demons though. The same Jesus Christ is recorded in Matthew 7 to have made clear that those whose focus is on doing wonders and signs are not of Him.
The signs revealed in Mark 16 are signs that follow those who believe in Jesus Christ. They are by no means of good works and not that which Jesus Christ said His Followers would do so much more of.

Miracles, signs and wonders, healings, etc., happen to voodoo believers, witches, atheists, agnostics, etc., every single day on this planet to confirm what the God of Israel said which is that He will show mercy to those who He wishes to show mercy and He will do it every day.

You're the one who's as confused as Satan himself.

Jesus said those who work iniquity, He'll regret! He never said He'll reject those who work miracles.

Mathew 7:23
"And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."

Take note!

"Ye that work iniquity." Not 'Ye that work miracles'.

Kobojunkie:
I hate this religious story telling.

Your hatred cannot stop the work of God.