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radautoworks:
It didn't. It was a sight unseen recommendation which is part of why he was upset.

radautoworks:

We would refer them to you unless they were willing to import one of ours.

radautoworks:
No one said you did. You're not incompetent. I said you recommended the 300k replacement to him.

sounds like my kind of quote funny thing is I doubt this car ever got to my workshop

radautoworks:
Here's the thing. When I came in the scene and tried to help people, you took umbrage and I apologized and bowed out did I not?

Then you put this thread out there and some people took your view and others didn't. Why are you so upset? For the most part I've left you alone even when your diagnosis or advice was clearly wrong but didn't say a word. Nairaland is after all your playground. But if you come at me directly, I will respond especially when I know you are wrong.

In this case, you came at me over the Corolla and I tried to soft pedal it. I eventually had to let you know you were working on the wrong assumptions so you couldn't pull off what we did. Your pretty much changed topic when you realised that it was in fact possible.

Then you chose to switch to this vehicle and you're not even right about the kind of car it is! Then you call me evil. For presenting another point of view from yours? The crazy thing is that this vehicle was originally your repair but the customer wasn't satisfied with your advice but I never revealed that it was you until now How does this make me evil for presenting an alternative?

I put it to the house/your demeanors: "are my actions in fact evil"?

. WHAT IS THIS OBSESSION ON NAIRALAND WITH "REPLACE ENGINE" AND "REPLACE COMPRESSOR/CONDENSER"??

Most of the time, that is not necessary and is only recommended because they either can't or won't diagnose what actual component in the system is causing the problem so they just replace the whole system.

Rebuilds only take 2-3 days unless there is a parts delay

e.g. other recommendation on here ( sight unseen I might add) was 300k engine replacement. Actual solution only cost 113k and did NOT require an engine replacement SMH.

radautoworks:
Many people on Nairaland have talked to Glen. Look through the threads. If you want to go up against him, your funeral. I'm more your speed.

Actually, I wasn't going to bring it up but in this case from what I understand, YOU presented a choice to the customer and we presented ours. He chose ours. We never spoke to him about a replacement because you already had so.... Also, not a Camry.

radautoworks:
Would you like to talk to Glen so he can walk you through it ? And yes, machining was part of it. As far as results, you can ask the owner Pitokwe.

radautoworks:
I'm taking cost like he's asking from me dipo

radautoworks:
How about you start giving breakdowns of your repairs? And that wasn't a Camry

It's a 2az-fe engine 2002-2004.

Now standard repair process would be to replace the short block and machine the head.

How did that happen under N113,000 with labour inclusive?

did you re-thread the worn block?

We like rebuilds too.

radautoworks:
And it does. That's what I would sell the part for is someone wanted to buy it which tells you I get it for less than that. Now do you want to reevaluate your math on what it would cost us to do this repair and if it's possible it not?

I have been trying to be subtle when you kept pressing cost but we are not a mechanic. We are a DISTRIBUTOR. The costs you're familiar with don't apply to us.

radautoworks:
WHAT IS THIS OBSESSION ON NAIRALAND WITH "REPLACE ENGINE" AND "REPLACE COMPRESSOR/CONDENSER"??

Most of the time, that is not necessary and is only recommended because they either can't or won't diagnose what actual component in the system is causing the problem so they just replace the whole system.

Rebuilds only take 2-3 days unless there is a parts delay

e.g. other recommendation on here ( sight unseen I might add) was 300k engine replacement. Actual solution only cost 113k and did NOT require an engine replacement SMH.

I've attached a picture of the supposed 300k engine replacement problem. Yes, you are seeing right. Someone used SOCKET TOOLS as a part in the engine

They also used a knockoff two layer gasket instead of three.

oh, and did I mention diagnosis was FREE with the repair?

radautoworks:
And we tore down the whole motor before we listed what needed changing. Actually have a video but can't figure out how to post here. Plus I'm mad he put parts on the floor instead of the work bench when assembling so I told him to do it better and make new video

Kamaru?

radautoworks:
Retail is N95,626 but I'm obviously not telling you our cost. Or did you forget we are a Carquest?

https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/crankshaft-rebuilders-remanufactured-crankshaft-kit-29620/20950159-P?searchTerm=Engine+Crankshaft+Kit

EgunMogaji:
Wait a minute.

I’m not saying all crankshafts need that. This particular cshaft may not need more than a good cleaning if it hasn’t spun in the bearings.

radautoworks:
We don't force people to use our services to get our warranty. If we did a good job, as long as they don't abuse their car, their warranty is good. We have no caveats. There is no consistent source of low mileage engines in the country we trust. Can we bring some in? Yes, but again, it's not worth it for the customer

thebigkendo:
Using the above estimate, let's say approximately 300k + 35k labour + Gazzuzz mobil 1 warrantee = 330k
Aunty Radu rebuild +parts(engine oil, coolant, crankshaft, oil pump, bearing, gaskets etc) + 6month warrantee = 240k

Kazeem will probably do engine +labour +water in radiator = 180-200k with a week warrantee

330k - 240k = 90k
90k is alot of money mehn.. I will go with radautoworks mehn
300k is my confortable limit for engine life so with our assumed 250k miles on the corolla
I Still have 50k miles to go.. Which is like 2 - 3 years

Radautoworks for me..

EgunMogaji:
Weld, grind, polish, shot peen, wedge, oil passages, etc, etc

radautoworks:
Again. 6 month warranty. Husband's been doing this over 20 years. We don't warranty if we can't back it. Parts were inspected and found okay. If they go bad it's 100% our cost both parts and labor so what exactly is the issue? Also, nowhere did I say we were doing a full on rebuild. I was very clear on my initial post what the engine needed.

Again, this is about the customer

radautoworks:
Exactly my point. We presented both options and owner chose this so I'm not quite sure what team replace is up in arms about. We were quite clear on what we were going to do to the car to the owner.

My peeve is team replace wants to be judge and jury for the customer. We don't.

radautoworks:
Again, where are you getting 200,000 miles from? Also, please tell me how you will verify in this country your low mileage engine claim.

radautoworks:
Where do you keep getting that figure from? Plus I've done that quite a few times already. Go back and read. And no, the Pistons were not included because they didn't need change. Go back and read what when EgunMogaji explained to you saving me the trouble.

It is worth it to the customer because the customer has a 6 month warranty on parts and labor. Remember the customer?. This is about them.

The Customer Had the Car for almost 7years @ 106,000miles. Would be nice if you could place another engine @ 106,000 miles and he gets another 7years

weyreypey:
Well said. A smoking R class engine....na rebuild get am...but for an M111 replacement straight

oluwaseunla:
I've been following both sides, picking up a few lessons. I think there are no hard and fast rules. Each case should be treated on its own merit.

Price of engines, availability of low mileage engines(which can be confirmed by the vin tags riveted on the engines at point of purchase), mileage of present engine, extent of damage of present engine are a few things to consider.

Some engines are available for dirt cheap, it won't be worth the price of a rebuild. Irrespective of belief, there is very little that will likely go wrong in an engine that has done less than 10,000 miles being sold as used (Again, history of cars the used engine came from can be verified at point of purchase).

Flip side, some engines are crazily expensive that a rebuild is a more viable option, if it can be done properly, like those crazy Korean vehicles when engine is more expensive than the used car.

Everyman to his own, you people will likely never agree to the other person's point of view, because each process has been tested by each party to work well for them.

Rebuild or replace? Ultimately a judgement call.

AutoElectNG:
Alert! Alert!! Alert!!!

A call to arms by the replace gang

It seemed the rebuild gang was gaining too much traction

and so the replace gang decided to regroup and attack from the rear

This story is far from over yet

owho1:
Want to a start a large vehicle Lubricants mainly and generator lubricants sales Shop at a location in the north.

I am looking for a trust worthy supplier of various grades and types of Engine oils(only original).

Kindly Give me advice or direct me reputable once .

I will drop my contact for anyone with useful information.

radautoworks:
New one. Toyota Corolla. Owner ready for engine replacement but really all it needs is crankshaft and oil pump. Owner will have a 6 month warranty parts and labor on the repair.

weyreypey:
Some engines do over 600,000 miles sir .. sold my first generation c180 W202 after all attempts to destroy the engine failed.