₦airaland Forum

CSTR2:
Wasn't it treachery against the PDP that got APC tambuwal and saraki?
You were on nairaland celebrating tambuwal for his treachery against the PDP.
Look at you ranting now as if this is a new thing.
Or is it because it is against the APC?
Get real and drop this sanctimonious bullshitt.

Those two defected. Tambuwal did not deceive his Party to make an ACN rep his deputy when he first emerged against the will of the Presidency back then. We should all be mature in outlook regardless of political affiliations. What Saraki did is not done anywhere. I.e giving a fierce opposition Party a route back to relevance the PDP had no right to obtain. Saraki crossed the line with that move and there should rightly be consequences for such grossly aberrant behaviour. Even Tambuwal never did that. If you put sentiments aside then you will see what is obvious and why Buhari has the right to take the PDP-empowering treachery of Saraki personally.

We all know defection happens every time in politics and throughout the world yet show even ten example, as Saraki did, of politicians working deliberately to give the opposition strength through helping them win a a top legislative position that had no right or electoral might to occupy by virtue of being the minority. You have no case. Yes I backed Tambuwal's defection because it strengthened the APC. that is politics 101 but I would understand, before he defected, if the PDP took it personal and decided Tambuwal must pay for helping then ACN Gbajabiamila become deputy speaker when the PDP had a clear majority in the lower house.

oshyno:
U see why I said we are all making conjectures. What makes you think Buhari is in same boat with Tinubu. We all know hw cunny, power hungry tinubu is. Buhari and the whole northan elders are very weary of tinubu. Any manouver that will make tinubu cement his grip on the government will be resisted.

This is what everything has boiled down to about your post. The irrational fear/hatred some of you have for Tinubu make you mention him irrelevantly and illogically blame him for everything. What makes you think Tinubu is involved in this? Saraki embarrassed Buhari and the APC immensely before the entire world. The Buhari government was new as well and it was important the APC showed a united face to the world for many reasons. Political infighting is always damaging. knowing all this, is it not obvious how a former army General will resent those he trusted who then planned a political coup against him?

We are talking of the same Buhari who divorced a wife who accepted financial assistance from the same man who jailed him i.e IBB. Some of you guys are just too sentimental to see what is obvious. Keep going on about Tinubu. this shows you have your own prejudice that will not let you note the obvious which is that Buhari may deem Saraki's antics as a personal affront to his Presidency. If he can divorce a wife, and mother of his kids, for collecting cash from a political opponent what do you think Buhari will not do to deal with the treacherous Saraki who has embarrassed him and the APC? For some of you everything is Tinubu to the extent you miss what is very obvious and that history/logic supports. tinubu my foot. Buhari is a character even Tinubu cannot dare attempt to control. You need to understand this fundamental truth about Mr.President.

Rexology:
PMB is neither the head of Judiciary nor a Military ruler to just give "nods"as it pleases him.
Just watch as the events unfolds, then you can either prove me right or wrong. I rest my case.

Under Buhari and his "body language" you do your job as you are supposed to. I know you are used to the years of the PDP that promoted the sloppiness, indiscipline and wanton corruption that allows politicians to be buying court orders that prevent their prosecution and arrest but let us see how things will pan out under Buhari. if I were a betting man than I would put a lot of money on many positive precedence being recorded in a Nigeria where corruption and political impunity is a way of life. The code of conduct tribunal has ordered Saraki be arrested, for non-appearance, and brought before it by Monday. Let us keep watching . You guys are all trying to turn Saraki into a superman merely because you are anti-APC and anti-Buhari. Hence you are comfortable lying to yourself Saraki has a chance. Let us see.

http://saharareporters.com/2015/09/18/saraki-was-no-show-court-prosecution-demands-saraki-be-arrested

Saraki Was A No-Show In Court, Prosecution Demands Saraki Be Arrested
The Code of Conduct Tribunal (CCT) has granted the application of the prosecution counsel and issued a bench warrant on the accused and asked the Inspector General of Police and other relevant security agencies to produce him to appear to before it on Monday 21st September.

oshyno:
We are all making conjectures here. I remember what LittleFinger of game of throne said " a man that shows no motive is the man no one suspect.it will keep your fools confused.If they dont know who you or what you want they cant predict your next action"

Both Tinubu and Saraki are savy. Buhari by the way is a civilian president soo he cant go beyond what the constitution prescribe. But mark this : If Saraki is going down, Tinubu is going down , APC might go down as well u know why, PDP might produce senate president after saraki and thaz will be a disaster for APC government.

This is why I said you are working with a sentimental outlook. Don't you get what is going on here? This is APC's attempt to consolidate power and put the PDP in its place for good. The APC has the majority in the senate and the treacherous antics of Saraki will never play out again because every APC politician is now ready for the PDP. Saraki caught others off gaurd becaase the APC where not expecting that level of treachery from him.

As far as politics remain a game of numbers, and as far as Nigerian politicians are the same selfish lot who will seek first to protect their new four years mandate, then Saraki will be dumped if it is all out war. Even PDP Senators will desert him because they know there is four years for Buhari to take it personal against them. Nigerian politicians don't stick there neck out that far. Buhari may be a civilian president but he will not be scared of a battle and giving his all to win it - especially if such will impact on his chance to succeed or fail as President. I don't see how you don't get this.

oshyno:
Just a question , senate has the rigth to probe anything.After the oversight and they find that somebody embezzled money,what next. Do they have the right to order police to arrest or charge the person to court ?

I asked this question bcuz it is pretty obvious Saraki is being haunted by APC(Tinubu and co maybe even Buhari inclusive). Saraki can fight back by setting up probe panel on some dealing Tinubu had and ofcourse indict Tinubu too or whoever is behind his current travail. They all have skeleton in their cupboard.

You really don't understand the powers of a Senate President. You think Saraki can just wake up and start unilaterally setting up probe panels especially when Senators know he is doing so to fight the President? Saraki will need the support of other Senators if he has decided to go for it in a winner-take-all battle against Buhari. When everyone realise this stage is upon us then you will see support for Saraki dissipate rapidly. No northern senator, not even those from the PDP, will support Saraki's effort to rubbish Buhari and , as I stated before, no SW APC senator will back Saraki ahead of Tinubu.

I was one of those who stated here that Saraki, because he showed his hand of treachery too early, left himself vulnerable in a political term that has four years to go. "Act in haste repent at leaisure". 4 years in this case. You guys don't get it that we are not in 2019 election year where some may be emboldened to back Saraki on the supposition Buhari may lose the Presidency as the nPDP (new PDP group which included Amaechi and many others) rebelled against GEJ. All Senators and politicians have a fresh four year term under their belt. They will not risk anything for Saraki. You better believe that. Thinking otherwise mean you simply don't know Nigerian politicians. Unity group indeed. Let us see how far they will stick their neck out for Saraki when push comes to shove.

oshyno:
Bros u talk as if Saraki is some paper weight politician. He has control of the senate atleast for now. The unity group are loyal to him, combine it with PDP senators and you understand where am coming from. Saraki is not going to make move against Buhari. I can bet my 2 balls that Tinubu and co are the ones behind his travail. Buhari of a person wud want that two of them fight each other, that will get him off the grip of Tinubu cuz Tinubu controls the party structure. Buhari wont go against Saraki if he set up a panel to investigate any biz involving Tinubu with FG. Me and you know this is not dificult to find. and I bet you Saraki wont let it slide just like that.

With all due respect, I think you are looking at things sentimentally. This is not the GEJ Presidency. Under Buhari, you will not do anything Machiavellian without the approval of the President whether covert or overt. In fact this is the mistake Saraki made to land him in all this trouble. He thought we were still in the PDP days where ambitious Politicians undermined GEJ openly. Do you guys know how a General thinks and what it took to get him that far? Buhari fully appreciates that once you are rubbished without consequences then your authority is eroded and many enemies will be emboldened to take you on. This was what killed GEJ. He could never take on even one political enemy to the end and win to send out a message to other wannabes. The likes of Buhari understand "the art of war" (Sun Tzu). Unprincipled folks like Saraki and GEJ do not.

tomakint:
Don't even try that 'Saraki will never go to jail' stance......this Saraki you see today is on his way to Kuje or Kirikiri Maximum Prison

Tomakint, na you dey talk like this? Someone stole your handle or perhaps I misunderstood you for one of those who automatically supports everything/everyone they think is giving the APC a bloody nose like Pa Chukwudi or the highly comical freeglobe who suggested Saraki should "impeach" Buhari. The funny thing was that I was one of those who suggested Saraki, because of his charisma, might be a decent choice for senate President if he has truly come of political age, is ready to shun corruption and is ready to work for the interest of Nigeria. Instead the man pulls off an incredible act of treachery that will not be tolerated anywhere else in the world yet some are supporting him without realising that sometimes, regardless of our affiliations, we must admit that good is good and bad is bad. As simple as that.

Akanbiedu:
Imagine appointing officers for APC in the senate? A mandate he won with PDP votes.

Exactly. Some people don't appreciate the magnitude of what Saraki has done. In the West he will be done for because no politician is bigger than the political Party. His open treachery will not be condoned in most nations of the world. Not even the UK Prime minister or US President can be so disdainful of their Party without consequences. People don't understand that Buhari has the mentality of a Western politician. He is not GEJ i.e Mr.Anything-goes who never believed people must be punished for even very serious misconduct. Saraki rubbished the APC before the world and I think Buhari fundamentally believes he has to pay.

oshyno:
1)Then how come they order IG even service chiefs for questioning.

2) I'm not talking about impeaching Buhari here.

Saraki has been boxed to a corner and definitely going to fight back. We are in for a serious ride cuz dude might just trow caution in d air and play dirty. Unearth everything on Tinubu, ask him to appear b4 the senate panel if he refuse he will order his arest too.

What on earth are you talking about here? have you guys given some thought to the biggest consideration here which is that the North fought tooth and nail to gain a Presidency they thought they were robbed of due to the treachery of GEJ? Saraki can fight back but if Buhari is insistent he must go then no single Northerner will attempt to rubbish or undermine Buhari by supporting Saraki too passionately.

the part in bold is a joke. Where would Saraki get the support to do that? Saraki cannot make Tinubu appear before the Senate because that stage will signal that Saraki is ready to fight Buhari and his political associates. If Saraki dare does such then all Northern Senators, even those in the PDP, will distance themselves from him while all APC SW Senator will never back Saraki against Tinubu. The point is that Saraki can make his move but he will lose out to a determined Buhari. He caused this for himself for his high level of treachery, indiscipline and lack of loyalty to his Party. When has the PDP ever let the opposition even sniff the deputy senate presidency since 1999? do some of you even appreciate what Saraki has done for the sake of power? He has to be shown that the Party is bigger than him and I personally don't think a disciplinarian like Buhari will relent. I said it when this started that Saraki would be dealt with only for some here to be praising Saraki without understanding that when you make your move others will make theirs . It was always only a matter of time . We are seeing that now.

Akanbiedu:
Gbawe, e ku ojo meta oo.

Hope you are enjoying the way Nigeria is reseting gradually?

very much eniyan mi. O to ojo meta. I am looking forward to seeing the sanity we all supported Buhari to deliver everywhere. Saraki's days are numbered in my opinion. Buhari is very tenacious and he has stated that he believes the Party must be respected. Saraki rubbished the APC and I don't think he will be allowed to get away with setting a precedence which suggests that you can profit from openly and disdainfully disgracing your own political Party. Imagine Ekweremadu, a PDP senator, as deputy senate President? I don't think Saraki appreciates what he did and how an ultra-principled old school politician like Buhari will likely never forgive him.

chukwudi44:
let me even assume for one second that Saraki gets booted out(even though I know it is an impossibility in the real sense) does the unity forunm senators have the numbers to elect one of theirs as senate president? The last time I checked the like minds comprising of a few APC senators and the PDP senators are in the majority.

Back to the topic.Unless Ekweremadu is impeached by a minimum of 73 senators,he remains the DSP

You'll never change and you will never learn. Do we need to dig up your posts where you spoke with certainty about how GEJ will carry the day and show Tinubu, Buhari et al who is "the most influential politician in Nigeria"? Or shall I remind you of how you pledged to deactivate your account if Buhari won in a certain State he actually did in the end? Yet, showing you have no shame or honour, you are still here and posting.

You have been discredited many times here yet you never learn. Keep turning things illogically on its head, in ignorance of the Nigerian political truth and reality, to speak as if a Senate President can really stand in the way of a determined President especially when the North, a region that feel it was cheated of power over the Yar Adua saga, will always throw Saraki into the lions den than threaten Buhari's Presidency. Perhaps you and your household will protect Saraki. In a battle of supremacy with Buhari, the North will cut Saraki off pronto and the SW will be disinterested in helping him. even SE and SS senators will quickly be whipped into line because those guys are about self-interest while you live to come to Nairaland to talk sentimentally about what you want which, logically, is not feasible. I don't know when you will understand politics is about permanent interest and not permanent enemies/friends. You always talk sentimentally and I have not notice where you have once made logical sense or spoken as if you acknowledge the reality of things. Saraki is a goner if indeed Buhari wants him gone. So also Ekweremadu.

BishopMagic:
Tinubu's influence and political empire is about to be destroyed by the north.

Why do you think Buhari is picking on Fashola against Tinubu's wish?

Buhari is propping Fashola and a host of others like Fayemi and Amosun to thwart Tinubu's undue influence and claims to his presidency.

And Buhari is very right to pick Fashola because given Fashola's meek and subservient disposition and his formerly high popularity among the SW Prolaetes , Buhari wanted fashola to replace tinubu who he intends to phase out.

This is why Tinubu is fighting fashola on the pages of newspapers and through his current puppet in Alausa.

Let us keep watching. Goodnight buddy.

BishopMagic:
Buhari is already reading my security dossier on Tinubu and Falana

Dey there

You know what you guys do not understand? Buhari fully understands that Tinubu is SW gateway. He won't ever jeopardize that. Ask those close to power. What happened to GEJ when he began rubbishing OBJ et al? You think Saraki's woe are unrelated to Buhari's annoyance over how it appears he has "backstabbed" Tinubu ? Submit all your dossier fast.Little known is that even Aisha Buhari is a very close pal and supporter of Tinubu. I knew your talk is the usual roundabout rigmarole you think will help you disguise that everything for you is really about a fear of Tinubu and his 'growing influence'. Tinubu should be the least of your worry if you really know and understand Nigerian politics.

BishopMagic:
So you are saying now that Falana may not make the cut?

I don't authoritatively know who Buhari will appoint. My substantive point is that I can't join the wild conjectures and speculations flying around but I know that you will not prevent Falana's confirmation if indeed Buhari has settled on him as Minister of Justice with your plea.

BishopMagic:
At the bolded, why change mouth?

I thought you zombies said he will be part of the ministerial list?

Yeye

Show where I joined to say that. Speculation is not for winners.

GenbIoodykiller:
i will only get tired in grave

no retreat no surrender

you'll get more out of others if you don't make everything a battle against them. By the way, those pathetic peashooters look like they will probably jam. At least copy and paste some 'meaty' tools if you are going to go the 'thug life' route.

BishopMagic:
Then why reply the thread?

As I said earlier, let's wait and see.

Go back to see that I never addressed your flight of fantasy. I only stated that your highly personalised and one-sided campaign of calumny will not stop Falana being confirmed a Nigerian Minister if indeed he has even been short-listed to become one. You guys need to start working with facts. You come here everyday to talk irrelevantly and loquaciously over complete speculations. Dude, simply wait to see who has made the cut.

GenbIoodykiller:
i repeat Sharap and gerrarahia

gbawe the bastard

mugu

General how far? You no dey tire?

BishopMagic:
Well, if there is anything I know about Buhari for all his faults and lack of proper knowledge and sharp acumen is that Buhari is no fool.

Let us wait and see.

Falana will not make the cut.

I won't stay here speculating with you. My point is that if Falana is pencilled in for a Ministerial appointment then there is nothing you can do to stop that happening. I have no problem with Falana and I have no interest in addressing your grouse against him that I know to be the dressed-up and irrational phobia and paranoia folks like you associate with anyone who even smiles at Tinubu publicly.

GenbIoodykiller:
Sharap bastard

High blood pressure is all your antics will get you negro. Work yourself up less and get more out of life and people .

@OP.

You have a very active imagination. I'll give you that. Yet nothing you say will stop any ministerial appointment being approved.

omenka:
Jonathan is nothing but a pathological criminal.

Tufiakwa!!




Cc: Lalasticlala. I really don't know why did detailed investigative report is still languishing in the backstage.

This is why some of us dislike him thoroughly. He is a very wicked, grossly corrupt and weak-willed man who never cared about ordinary Nigerians. The main lesson Nigerians should learn with our misadventure with GEJ is that we should always choose leaders who show they deserve to be leaders. OBJ and other selfish kingmakers (like Anenih) forced GEJ on Nigeria because they were intent on preserving the 'business-as-usual' status quo. I would have hoped , in 2011, Nigerians would have been politically sophisticated enough to see that Jonathan's history shows he has nothing to offer and that he is merely another incompetent, corrupt and common political jobber who got into politics to feather his own nest. We would have been spared this horrid mess if Nigerians are a people who put prejudice and sentiments aside to see and accept what is obvious.

The problem for Nigeria is that many issues, like ethno-religious and sectional prejudice, prevent us from seeing clearly. This affects how we reason and vote. If Nigerians were united and focused on good governance then someone like Jonathan would not even be a commissioner in the smallest Village in Nigeria.

Some of us said it that Ali Baba (GEJ) and his forty thieves (Allison-Madueke et al) will emerge the most corrupt regime in Nigeria by far. We are now vindicated daily with all these disgusting revelations of monumental corruption the wanton GEJ government supervised. The Buhari government must ensure that culprits are punished otherwise the culture of impunity will continue.

Some of us said it that GEJ will emerge the most corrupt President of Nigeria ever. We are now being vindicated daily with all these disgusting revelations of monumental corruption. The Buhari government must ensure that culprits are punished otherwise the culture of impunity will continue.

HireKiller:
I like this

sack all those that have been corrupted by the previous leader's evil.

Indeed. I am loving this. The GEJ regime put Nigeria through hell and disgraced our nation horribly as they sought to cling on to power so that their atrocities would not be exposed. They should all be sacked and punished if possible. The Buhari certificate saga and Ekiti-gate scandal still makes me cringe till today. GEJ perverted everything and everyone at all levels of society. Those who did his bidding and made themselves 'tools' must all be sacked.

BekeeBuAgbara:
Ali should be told that he has no power to jail anyone, only the court does.

This is not 1984.

He obviously does not mean he will jail them directly. I think he is saying they will not escape prosecution and jail if found guilty. It is similar to how the Police initiate stiff disciplinary action against errant officers and the army court martial's offending soldiers. The man is simply saying that he will make sure offending custom officers are prosecuted and punished unlike what obtained before. i think he makes it clear he will create an environment where custom officers will be accountable for their actions - good or bad.

and that all Customs Area Controllers, heads of units and
departments will be accountable for infraction
dealing with false declaration, deliberate
misapplication of the tariff, undervaluation and
concealment.

fm7070:
Why is it that the President is using Federal Institution against those he considered his enemies. It is very wrong.
We should build strong, formidable instituion that will stand on integrity, rather than using the institution for our own interest just because we are in power today. Remember that someone will be in power tomorrow.

This has nothing to do with Buhari. He has appointed a new DSS boss. That man has to take stock and look at how to reverse the damage GEJ has done. By the nature of the operations of the DSS, it is not everything that can be made public. Concluding people have been sacked unfairly or commenting that Buhari is using Nigerian institutions for his "own interest" is simply unfair because we all know the deep and serious damage GEJ has done which means serious reforms is required to turn things around. You guys should let Buhari and his appointees work. I would like you to point me to your posts on NL where you condemned the antics and open partiality of Ogar and Mbu which GEJ openly encouraged and made official PDP modus operandi. If any President used Nigerian institutions for his "own interest" then GEJ is the perfect example of that.

ROSYL:
Doctored information? So you are eagerly waiting to swallow up all cooked- info your govt will put out there.... you see what I mean.

"Cooked-Info" you call it. To me your bias against the new Government is glaring. GEJ was in power for 5 years. In that time he enshrined corruption, nepotism, cronyism, lack of professionalism and ethno-religious division into the operation of virtually every sector and parastatal in Nigeria. Now a government that has not been in power for even 6 months makes a move against the actions of a previous Government the whole world has conclusive proof of misrule against yet we are to believe it is the Buhari Government that is offering "cooked-up" info? To be honest I don't get the logic of your argument as it lacks soundness.

Who would a reasonable and unbiased Nigerian give the benefit of the doubt between the GEJ and Buhari government? I think the answer is obvious to all Nigerians who want good governance. It is not much of a choice when we have a Government that has used five long years to mire Nigeria in corruption, cronyism, institutional decay the rubbishing and ruination of agencies like the DSS and misrule while another government is now trying to reverse the gross damage done. It is like siding with a thief who has several criminal convictions yet fighting vehemently against someone who has never been convicted of a crime.

There are ways to criticize constructively. The entire world knows what GEJ turned the DSS and its staff into. I.e a highly unprofessional security agency that acted like the personal tool of the PDP. Is it not reasonable for Nigerians to wait and receive all information before your likes start to act as if Buhari is committing murder? Show me your comments of condemnation when GEJ was perverting and destroying the DSS, NNPC et al to now leave the new government with a massive headache. If I see those posts then I will know you are an advocate of good governance otherwise I will insist you are just another Nigerian with a sectional bias that promote the negative outlook preventing you from giving the Buhari government the chance to get to work and do things its own ways. I wont support this sacking but I won't condemn it either given what we all now know GEJ and his brigands did. I am even very embarrassed at the antics of Ogar's (DSS), Mbu's (police) and Aliyu Momoh (the army Major general in the Ekiti rigging scandal) which made a mockery of the professionalism of our security and armed forces. All Nigerians who want good governance should be livid at the institutional decay GEJ caused everywhere. You guys should get behind Buhari to restore sanity. It will to the benefit of us all.

ROSYL:
So this how to reverse abuse of power? You are the reason why Nigeria is where it is today. You said the bottom line is no one knows the definite aanswer why they did what they did......so why didn't they state the answer in their sack letters.
And again all these countries you reference don't just wake up one morning, match to barracks and start handing in sack letters, and then again with no reason. Even if they want to retrench, they will first pass the idea to parliaments for debate, several months before it happens, so please your comparison here is null and void.....and why do you people always compare sef...We are way behind those people

Madam, simply wait for more information to come out. That is my point.