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Education / Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Gbsks: 8:50am On Jun 04, 2016
Abi, i'm thinking of it seriously, i can't drop this mcb, i'm in 300 level already, so they can do whatever they like.
jemmiee:
DE sure pass if they do that ridiculous reshuffling.
Education / Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Gbsks: 3:34pm On Jun 03, 2016
Bush2013:
prepare for your post jamb exam, I am 100% sure that Nigerian Universities won't accept that decision. Watch out
ok thanks man
Education / Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Gbsks: 12:27pm On Jun 03, 2016
Ha God! Concerning this issue of post utme scrapping i think i have no other choice but to resort to doing D.E. This country is just so annoying.

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Education / Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Gbsks: 6:26pm On May 23, 2016
jemmiee:
My dear, ai hope the new curriculum will reflect that.
is it the seven years policy? I don't think mdcn accepted that oh! But anyway, Let's wait and see first
Education / Re: 2016/2017 UTME And Admission Process Thread by Gbsks: 1:57pm On Apr 07, 2016
If u are in ibadan just go to jamb office @ total garden. COC cost #2800 for both the form and registeration. PEACE

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Education / Re: JAMB Re-opens Portal For Change Of Institution And Course by Gbsks: 3:40pm On Apr 02, 2016
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Education / Re: NUC Dismisses The 11 Years Policy For The Training Of Medical Students by Gbsks: 12:27pm On Mar 18, 2016
Cc. lalasticlala
Cc mods
please move this to the front page so that people who believed the 11 years policy won't be misinformed.
Education / NUC Dismisses The 11 Years Policy For The Training Of Medical Students by Gbsks: 12:23pm On Mar 18, 2016
The National Universities Commission (NUC) has refuted reports making the rounds that medical students in Nigerian universities would henceforth study for 11 years before obtaining an MBBS degree.

The NUC Executive Secretary, Prof. Julius Okojie, who cleared the air told The Guardian in Abuja, the new Benchmark Minimum Academic Standard (BMAS) for Medicine and Dentistry, which had since been made public by commission, only provides for a seven-year training, leading to the award of MBBS/MDS.

“A seven year MBBS programme that encompass a seamless four- year acquision of the B.SC. Basic Medical Science with interest in either Anatomy/Physiology/Biochemistry.

“At the end of seven years, students would have acquired the Bachelor of Medical Science, Bachelorof Medicine and Bachelor of Surgery degrees. In case of dental programmes, students would have acquired a degree in Basic Dental Sciences and Bachelor of Dental Surgery.
Earlier in the day, Commonwealth Medical Association had called for caution over the alleged plans by the National Universities Commission (NUC) has come to introduce a new eleven (11) undergraduate training curriculum for medicine and dentistry in Nigeria.

Worried about the vague nature of the planned introduction, the Association has asked NUC and the Medical and Dental Council of Nigeria (MDCN) clear the air on the contentious issue.
Vice President of the group, and immediate Past President of the Nigerian Medical Association (NMA)
Dr. Osahon Enabulele, in a statement in Abuja, noted that the issue was worrisome and capable of causing unnecessary tension among parent, students and other stakeholders.

Recently, there were media reports that the National Universities Commission (NUC) has declared that any student who wants to study medicine and dentistry in Nigeria will henceforth spend a minimum of 11 years in the university.
This statement was attributed to the Executive Secretary of the NUC, Prof. Julius Okojie, whose representative, Prof. Chiedu Mafiana (the Deputy Executive Secretary of the NUC) was said to have made the declaration in a lecture delivered at the maiden matriculation and inauguration of the University of Medical Science, Ondo, Ondo State.

In a lecture titled ‘Development of Medical Education: Prospects and Challenges‘, Okojie, was quoted to have said that ‘the new 2015 medical/dental training curriculum document provided for medical students to spend the first four years in studying basic sciences in the university after which they would proceed to the medical school to spend another seven years in order to enable the students mature psychologically for the profession’.

Enabulele noted: “While I am tempted to doubt these statements said to have been made by the Executive Secretary of the NUC during that fortuitous and landmark event that took place in Ondo State, I am grossly worried that if no prompt clarifications are offered then Nigerians will be left to imagine and suffer from the innumerable consequences of such a strange policy initiative.


“My doubt of those statements credited to the Executive Secretary of the NUC is founded on information available to me. In fact, what I knew before this talk of 10 or 11 years emanated was the fact that the debates before now were centred on a proposed 7year MBBS/BDS programme (for medicine and dentistry) that embraces a mandatory 4yr programme which leads to the acquisition of a B.Sc in either Anatomy, Physiology, or Biochemistry, before proceeding to acquire the MBBS or BDS. With this 7yr proposal (which is still being debated), at the successful completion of the 7yr medical programme, such an individual would acquire the Bachelor of Basic Medical Science, Bachelor of Medicine and Bachelor of Surgery degrees. In the same vein, for Dental students, they would acquire a degree in Basic Dental Science and a Bachelor of Dental Surgery. So, all together, the proposal was for an individual entering the medical school to spend 7yrs rather than the current 6yr MBBS/BDS programme. So, unless something more dramatic happened in the last few weeks, with respect to medical education curriculum development in Nigeria, this is the information that was available before now.

“In any case, let me state here that I really don’t think it is even appropriate to say that there is such a policy in place. Such a policy initiative on medical/dental education curriculum development in Nigeria, which is bound to impact on the cost of training of a doctor and people’s proclivity for the medical profession (particularly so, with the declining purchasing power of Nigerians and worsening misery index as a result of the very harsh and depressing economic situation currently being experienced in Nigeria), cannot be undertaken arbitrarily by the National University Commission (NUC). This is because even though medical education in Nigeria seem to fall under two ministries, namely: Education and Health, the Medical and Dental Council of Nigeria (MDCN) is pre-eminently vested with the power to determine the standards of knowledge and skill to be attained by persons seeking to become members of the medical and dental profession and reviewing those standards from time to time, as expressed in section 1, subsection 2 (a) of the Medical and Dental Practitioners Act CAP M8 Laws of the Federation of Nigeria 2004. Indeed, the MDCN has the imprimatur to regulate medical education, training and practice in Nigeria. So, unless such a pronouncement on a change in medical education curriculum in Nigeria is made by the MDCN, any pronouncement made by any other body without the agreement of the MDCN is totally nugatory and an exercise in futility.”

He went on: “The idea that the curriculum change was effected to enable the students mature psychologically for the profession is baffling and ludicrous. I am not aware that ability to cope with the rigorous and laborious training offered in medical schools is dependent on the age of the students. Available evidence does not suggest that. Seriously, I don’t think you have to be a grandparent to study medicine or dentistry in Nigeria or other parts of the world.

“Indeed, while I admit that there is need to dynamically improve and modify the current 6year medical/dental training curriculum in Nigeria to make it an all-encompassing curriculum, capable of producing medical and dental practitioners that are responsive to the 21st century needs of their communities, I must however state that this improvement does not necessarily require an increase in the duration of medical and dental education/training in Nigeria.


“Beyond the quality and content of the medical/dental curriculum and the need for regular dynamic reviews, a lot of factors impinge on the quality of medical/dental education/training and the quality of medical practice in Nigeria. These factors will need to be holistically and effectively managed to get the best out of medical/dental education in Nigeria. For instance, the quality and number of entrants into medical school is very important.
He went further: “Therefore, before such pronouncements are made and circulated in the news media, I expect the policy regulators to have deeply reflected on its pros and cons before seeking to experiment with it. I expect them to appropriately balance the benefits with the cost, with both the quality of medical education/practice and the health of Nigerians taken into good account.

“Pending further clarifications from the NUC on the news story making the rounds; it is crystal clear that any policy that seeks to increase the duration of training to 10 or 11 years will be an arduous one that bristles with reverberating and convulsive implications. In my view, it is better to modify and improve the contents of the existing medical/dental training curriculum rather than this talk of a 10 or 11yr programme. I consider such contemplation as an ill wind that will blow our country and her citizens no good, and therefore should be regarded as dead on arrival.”


http://m.guardian.ng/news/doctors-call-for-caution-over-alleged-11-year-medical-degree-proposal-as-nuc-dismisses-report/

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Education / Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Gbsks: 11:22am On Mar 18, 2016
nnu.com.ng/doctors-call-for-caution-over-alleged-11-year-medical-degree-proposal-as-nuc-dismisses-report/ The eleven years was a hoax

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Education / Re: 2016/2017 UTME And Admission Process Thread by Gbsks: 11:09pm On Mar 17, 2016
Jlakeside:

I'm old enough to be your father.. I'll be ok with all what you can tell your dad..
boss abeg no vex... E don do, but i'll rather say ur statement to that lady was rather harsh in the first place. Pls let's learn to accomodate one another. Thanks
Education / Re: 2016/2017 University of Ibadan Admission Thread Guide. by Gbsks: 8:24am On Mar 17, 2016
DrSage:
Use Of English,Biology, Chemistry, Physics
can i have your whatsapp contact?
Education / Re: Medical Students To Spend 11 Years In Varsity − NUC by Gbsks: 7:34pm On Mar 16, 2016
Danyl:

they better not pick the calls. I don't know why okojie will make such a blunder in he first place cos all eyes are on him now. only an insane man will pray that his kid spend 11years in school for just a certificate of which after it all ders no guarantee of having a job.
Abi, them just dey blab, e no fit happen.
Education / Re: Medical Students To Spend 11 Years In Varsity − NUC by Gbsks: 2:34pm On Mar 16, 2016
Danyl:
but this is making front page everywhere right now it has to be corrected before people start making their decisions on that fallacy cos student admission for medicine will be low men, 11years ke, the person that told first said 10yrs then I saw 11 online. so something must be wrong somewhere. no sane university should spend more than 7 yrs for medicine except so many things r wrong somewhere.
I don't know what's wrong with those bloggers, but if u notice they all give credit to punch as the source of the info, u need to hear the way the person i called in MDCN laughed at me yesterday, u see the annoying thing in this country is that when leaders make mistake they find it hard to rectify, i've been calling nuc numbers since morning and they refuse to pick(maybe i will try again later) i guess they've been bombarded with calls and they are advised not to pick any again. Silly people, they should implement it make we see. Rubbish

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Education / Re: Medical Students To Spend 11 Years In Varsity − NUC by Gbsks: 11:41am On Mar 16, 2016
Yeah, from the post it can be inferred that either the person who said it made a mistake or the journalist himself. He may mean four years for basic medical science and 3 for clinicals making it 7 altogether. If u noticed he made mention of their 2015 document and the only policy they released last year was the seven years policy, so i guess there is a mistake somewhere besides that's if mdcn and nma allows them to implement the policy.
Danyl:
sorry it was last year November post, I didn't Check the date. however, why will NUC say 7years, and afterwards mention 11years within a space of 5months like they were sleeping when they pronounced the 7yr term. they must be delusioned to have made this 11yrs clause which will affect this country more than it has always been.. no rational reason behind this if I must say but let's wait and see the retraction of that 11years.
Education / Re: 2016/2017 UTME And Admission Process Thread by Gbsks: 10:33pm On Mar 15, 2016
Demmieviere:

It Can't Be Implemented. Well, I Hope So... Thanks For Your Time..
u welcome.
Education / Re: Medical Students To Spend 11 Years In Varsity − NUC by Gbsks: 10:25pm On Mar 15, 2016
labodinho:
Yea,so I heard but I did not confirm any.
ok thanks.

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Education / Re: 2016/2017 UTME And Admission Process Thread by Gbsks: 9:53pm On Mar 15, 2016
Demmieviere:

OmG! A Competitive Course At That. And Jamb Keeps Fustrating Students Every Year! 11yrs With No Assurance Of Getting A Well Paid Job Thereafter!
the policy has not been passed into law, mdcn reserves the constitutional rights to determine the number of years spent in med school and the fact is i called someone in mdcn office today and the person confirmed it's that it CAN'T be implemented so.....
Education / Re: Medical Students To Spend 11 Years In Varsity − NUC by Gbsks: 9:24pm On Mar 15, 2016
labodinho:


Okay dear.Don't forget the pq too.
was the 40marks removed from everybody's score or those who wrote on the 27th and 29th of february?
Education / Re: Medical Students To Spend 11 Years In Varsity − NUC by Gbsks: 9:14pm On Mar 15, 2016
Danyl:
MDCN has debunk that statement, and that for now if they ratified such decision they will publish it in 2 dailies, as they are in the best position to decide that not the NUC.

So MDCN is saying NUC have not right to determine how long students spend for medical studies in school. So students should relax on the matter. you can use Google search to clarify my statement.
can you provide a link to this cos i can't find it on google thanks.
Education / Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Gbsks: 9:09pm On Mar 15, 2016
Danyl:

MDCN has debunked that NUC policy, they said NUC has no constitutional right to determine the number of years students spend in school. you can use Google to clarify my statement. for now only the 7yrs from MDCN last review is going to hold. if that 11years is going to be the norm, Nigeria is on a destructive path. Many people have gone astray because of useless policies like this.... even in countries where theirs is 4years, they are better equipped than Nigeria. It there is a guarantee that you will be a junior resident by the end of DT 11yrs people will join queue at least you are on a career path already and that makes sure you stay in the field.
7yrs? Housemanship inclusive abi? Thanks anyway.
Education / Re: Medical Students To Spend 11 Years In Varsity − NUC by Gbsks: 11:59am On Mar 15, 2016
labodinho:
It's for MB;BS and BDS but not certain the 11yrs tin is going to take effect yet until we hear frm MDCN.Heard that too,I've sent you msg on whatsapp but u're nt online thr.
i even called someone in mdcn council and she said it can never be effected that it was just a suggestion that can't be passed into law.
Education / Re: Medical Students To Spend 11 Years In Varsity − NUC by Gbsks: 11:34am On Mar 15, 2016
labodinho:
It's for MB;BS and BDS but not certain the 11yrs tin is going to take effect yet until we hear frm MDCN.Heard that too,I've sent you msg on whatsapp but u're nt online thr.
yeah i think mdcn reserves the right to decide whether it takes implemented or not, i pray the don't agree
Education / Re: Medical Students To Spend 11 Years In Varsity − NUC by Gbsks: 1:00am On Mar 15, 2016
I'm very sure this policy is proposed as it can never come to pass except if other bodies like mdcn, nma agrees. Infact i believe MDCN retain the legal rights for setting standards of medical training.I'm very sure this policy is proposed as it can never come to pass except if other bodies like mdcn, nma agrees. Infact i believe MDCN retain the legal rights for setting standards of medical training.I'm very sure this policy is proposed as it can never come to pass except if other bodies like mdcn, nma agrees. Infact i believe MDCN retain the legal rights for setting standards of medical training.
Education / Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Gbsks: 8:58pm On Mar 14, 2016
Hello, has anyone seen that stupid nuc policy on the frontpage? I pray it never holds IJN. It was seven years before now eleven haa!

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Education / Re: 2016/2017 University of Ibadan Admission Thread Guide. by Gbsks: 8:16pm On Mar 05, 2016
Good evening fellas, I chose unilag for MBBS but with my low jamb score I'm contemplating changing it to ui dentistry so. #teamBDS
Education / Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Gbsks: 8:08pm On Mar 05, 2016
hmmmn. It is well with my soul even though the devil wants to puncture my dream but thank God for his Grace and intervention. I wrote jamb this morning and when I checked my result this evening I was dumbfounded by what I saw.. but thank God I scored way above 200 but the thing is I don't think my score will be good enough if I decide to choose Oau or unilag. so I think UI is my next option or is there anyone here who has an idea of a safer school to pick that augment my low jamb score?
Education / Re: How Tough Is Medicine And Surgery As A Course? by Gbsks: 6:24pm On Feb 12, 2016
Drdonzeez:
Which means we've all committed falacy!
yeah that's the point, no course is easy. Some courses may appear simple but meanwhile they are actually difficult so the argument is not valid to me.
Education / Re: How Tough Is Medicine And Surgery As A Course? by Gbsks: 6:08pm On Feb 12, 2016
Drdonzeez:
veteniary medicine, Dentistry and Dental surgery and pharmacy are all tougher than medicine. just that medicine is more difficult to get into.
sorry to say but i think this is your own point of view.

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Education / Re: How Tough Is Medicine And Surgery As A Course? by Gbsks: 6:05pm On Feb 12, 2016
Did you study medicine too? If no then you can't say d other courses you mentioned are tougher and if you read his post he said only those that studied the course can testify of the difficulty level.
Drdonzeez:
And who cares!Did he study pharmacy, Dentistry et al.I hold no qualm with Dr.Lagausta.he's a role model.

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Education / Re: Unilag 2016/2017 Admission Guide ( Unilag 2016 Jambites). by Gbsks: 9:09am On Feb 12, 2016
davbravo:

I don't know, but it may also apply to d num of student's admitted into d 1st year so as to avoid a situation( just like what's happening now) whereby a lot of students don't cross.
ok, thanks
Education / Re: Unilag 2016/2017 Admission Guide ( Unilag 2016 Jambites). by Gbsks: 9:50pm On Feb 11, 2016
labodinho:


The only thing to expect is that,low number of students will be admitted like this present set and cgpa is now a crossing criteria.This will make getting on the list more competitive.
ok thanks man

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Education / Re: Unilag 2016/2017 Admission Guide ( Unilag 2016 Jambites). by Gbsks: 9:16pm On Feb 11, 2016
davbravo:

The number of students taken into d college as been reduced, so it'll affect d subsequent sets
ok thanks. But does it also mean that the number of students admitted into first year will be reduced too?

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