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I'll find better YouTube videos showing all three cities when I have more time.

popizaino:
Abeg I need that video. I want laugh small.

God I must find that video. I swear.

vankelvin:
Streets- or roads- or drainage or sewage- we are talking about the same thing.

Buildings? only a deluded folk will say that

Apart from beautiful streets there is no basis to compare Accra and Kigali. Kigali no reach at all

Oh my god 😄😂

Ghanaians here will make you doubt and question your reality. This is Kigali by Steven Ndukwu.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68zBF9FF-xw?si=RRyUtVpSLab0ITio

This is Accra by thesame YouTuber

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lB4hz8MnE1Y?si=uC2XF_VwYPrehQMO

and then Abuja

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLR4uaOi3Wo?si=lbCP10sD-j8-_a-U

Everyone can judge for themselves. God knows I tried 😂😄

samorobo:
Chai you are wicked. You’ve finally reminded me of this. 😂😂😂
I could picture them sipping coconut water and seeing the poor locals fisting on banku and pepper whilst waving at them with their faded kente wrapped around their waist 😂😂.

What could be more African and root connecting than that. It’s gives the African Americans that they are in an accepted society that america could not give them.

Funny enough a black American said same thing in her video.

She first visited Victoria Island and Lagos Island in general before she went to Accra. She gave her reason why she chose Accra and said unlike Lagos Island, it gives her that village feel ( she innocently thought this was a compliment to her Ghanaian fans) but boy o boy, her comment section was brutally brutal with Ghanaian tears everywhere 😂😄

She had to do a follow up video to clarify and explain what she meant by saying Ghana gives her the village feel 😄

I would check for that video. It was during detty December and I've forgotten her name.

vankelvin:
Accra beats Kigali in all aspects except street beautification

You must be high on some cheap weed 😂😄

Kigali beats Accra in quality of roads and buildings as well as the planning and layout of the city. Kigali also have a more efficient transport system, good sewage system, and also more organized.

Just30:
Every thing

Accra electricity consumption alone is what the entire Rwanda demand is.

Accra water supply alone is greater than the entire demand of all of Rwanda

I can go on and on and on but these are things you already know

Electricity consumption and water supply are not what's used to say a city looks more developed.

For instance, Accra is a bigger city than Kigali and has more people, so the argument of electricity, water consumption is useless as long as Rwandans have good enough electricity and water for their population. So this your criteria makes no sense. It's even better to use the number of skyscrapers, good roads, real estate valuations, transport system (including trains), sidewalks, parks, beaches, organization, cinemas, gyms, financial institutions, quality of buildings, etc..

In all, good roads and good buildings as well as the layout of a city are the first things people speak about when they talk about
development. Others come later but these are for first impressions and it's what I'm talking about here.

Just30:
There's nothing like having the best hospitals ....you either have good hospital infrastructure or you don't.

In West Africa, both Education and health care, it's been Ghana

Best hospital/Best hospital infrastructure. Kini big deal? What makes a hospital to be ranked the best if not the infrastructure and medical devices it has? You are splitting hairs here. Just answer the damn question if you can.

Just30:
it will be and insult to Acrra to be compared to Kigali

😂😄 delusion. What does Accra have over Kigali?

Just30:
Yes

What is a health care infrastructure? Of course I'm referring to hospitals 🤣😂

It's what I'm asking you. What country in West Africa has the best hospitals or school infrastructures in West Africa.
What do you think the rankings consider if not infrastructure amongst others?

vankelvin:
They will never understand

That statement is well coded and only sensible people can decode it

Can Accra be compared to Kigali?? 😂😄

Accra is not even close. Kigali is one of the best cities in Africa.

Just30:
Now Abuja has become Lagos ?

We are talking infrastructure and you say rankings 🤣😂


I've resolved not to have babies argument in 2024, pls

But you spoke of Ghana having the best of these things in West Africa not Accra.😄😄

Okay so tell me what Healthcare/Educational infrastructure are you talking about?

Good to know you and other Ghanaians here like baby arguments. Not just that, but the Ghanaians here are painfully stubborn in their wayward arguments 😂😄

Appisko:
Facts

Stop deceiving yourself my man. No fact there.

Education.. Ghana has the highest ranking school in West Africa, true. But Nigeria dominates the list of the top ten (not just one school ranking high). Nigeria has 170 universities spread across 36 states.

Healthcare..I don't know where he got that from because the rankings I see puts Lagos as the 8th best city in terms of Healthcare in Africa. The other cities higher than Lagos are in South Africa (with about 5), Kenya (1), Morocco.

Social Amenities..

Sports...Where is the data?

Entertainment and Leisure...For him to include this category shows he is really high on something 😄😂

vankelvin:
There is a reason they call nigeria the slum country. Not even their Abuja was spared from slum settlements


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5RohgeV2tA?si=e8-PoFRzYCCnuaYa

You are wasting your time. I am yet to find any observer who has visited both Abuja and Accra who speaks of Accra being ahead of Abuja in any way. We have shown you two people who visited both cities so far and this is what they have to say:

African Tigress: I think Abuja is my favourite West African capital city.

Wode Maya: I don't know any city in Ghana I can use to compare with it, no no.

These are testimonies that goes beyond this bantering on nairaland 😂😄

popizaino:
Look at the Tema he is trying to sell to you . How will you be driving on this street and not be depressed? To think this place was planned according to Ghanaians .


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47HjbMDUmkc?si=REAmxJ8I5eJmQ8yw

This is Ghana's planned city?? Eii Charlie.

popizaino:
Which Tamale is beautiful ? can any beautiful place come out of Ghana? . You don too swallow this their hype. Alaba rago better pass Tamale. About the rest,you are spot on. Tamale way be say the only modern landmark for there main town na the mosque 🕌. Dey play



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVgnqwLCPYg?si=gC7lZg1VIQzfp3v0

Na all these black Americans sha. I get plenty friends wen don visit Ghana, none of them dey hype Ghana (but na mostly Accra dem dey visit sha). But some African Americans online go tell you say dem visit Tema, dey love it and stuff like that.

vankelvin:
Choke on these Tema city pictures ode

Wetin be this?? Is this the Tema?? 🙄

popizaino:
PH.

Dust free. I can't say for some people's capital.

Accra (aside maybe Airport city) gives PH vibes at best. While Kumasi gives old Ibadan vibes. I heard Tamale and Tema are calm, beautiful cities but haven't seen much of them.

vankelvin:
You are making no sense here

@Wode Maybe said all the nicest things he wanted to say about Abuja

He talked about how organized Abuja was. this is where he compared to Lagos, other Nigerian cities then chipped in Ghanaian cities as well. (Dont try to twist his words and interprete it the way you like)

He then found a city worth compared to Abuja and even stressed on that kigali was cleaner between the two cities

Give up already. You are not making any sense.

He was asked: Out of the four cities he visited in Nigeria which is the most developed? (not which is the most organized) and he listed them as: Abuja, Lagos, PH in that order. That is the context. No need for twisting and yes Kigali is more developed than any city in Ghana and in Wode Maya's eyes, it's also more developed than Lagos.

Just30:
Because Abuja is not quite there at Accra's level yet.

Since we all know that Kigali is quite underdeveloped just like Abuja, there's quite an understanding as to why he compared both.

Infrastructure wise, Abuja does not have as much paved roads as Accra, neither is it greenery than it as the Green city index has shown, does not have as much water supply or electricity supply as Accra, does not come close to Accra on health or sporting infrastructure or entertainment infrastructure.

You see where I'm going .....now you can continue to make noise
All the above are based on facts

Well that is your opinion. Wode Maya uses the word development at the beginning and ranks Abuja his most developed Nigerian city. So he was clear on what he was talking about in the context of Nigeria and Ghana. I'm sure if he was asked to compare Abuja and Capetown for instance, he would have put some qualifiers to say Capetown is more developed but Abuja is quieter and stuff like that but in thinking of Ghana and Nigeria, it is clear he considers both Abuja and Kigali as up there.

You can disagree with Wode Maya but it is his opinion.

Also can you give me the data that shows Accra has more paved roads than Abuja? Because that seems unbelievable.

Just30:
In the context of it serenity as that was the pretext to the conversation.

Hope the English is not to big for your pea size brain. 😂🤣

If Lagos of 18 million people can't get 200 million gallons of water through their pipes per day, what makes your think Abuja will be able to pump 150 million gallons of water as Accra?


Never ever compare your undeveloped villages to Accra, they are not in Accra's league yet.

Nah, this is the full context below. What that guy did was cut and join.

Wode Maya started by speaking of "development and everything". He was even asked before this, what city is the most developed in Nigeria? and in his opinion he ranks Abuja no 1 ahead of Lagos.

He then goes on to describe Abuja and why he feels so. He listed things like beauty, organized,serenity, traffic, everything on point and even infrastructure at the end. What else do you think he left out in the entire context?

He didn't try to say Lagos is better than Abuja in some aspects but Abuja is better in serenity only. Nah, rather Abuja is his most developed Nigerian city. Period. It can only compare to Kigali aside Kigali's cleanliness. This means to Wode Maya, Kigali is more developed than any Ghanaian or Nigerian city aside Abuja. Simple as ABC. This is the quote in full context:

" I saw Abuja is different in terms of development. I think they took their time to develop Abuja. So when you go to Abuja you'll see that everything is like on point, everything in Abuja is on point like the road system, the traffic system, and everything. It's not like Lagos, if you go to Lagos, everything is here there. But Abuja is like organized, I don't know
how to explain like I don't know any city in Ghana I can use to compare Abuja, no no. It's like well organised, let me say Abuja is something like Rwanda Kigali but Kigali is cleaner than Abuja but that's the only thing I would say, Kigali was cleaner than Abuja but Abuja was beautiful, green, it's like a green city, infrastructure"...

vaxx:
You guys love deciving yourself. An average nigerians used paragon and BRT buses( trotro in Ghana) than uber and bolt in Nigeria. Those commercial buses are way more cheaper in lagos than Abuja.


A dollar is 12 cedis at average rate , that is enough for good meal in the northern Ghana. You will even eat averagely in the southern Ghana..12 cedis is probably above a 1000 naira .


Abuja is more expensive than lagos . Rent, transportation , restaurant , clubs and the rest

Sorry. Bolt and Uber are common in Abuja, so we are not deceiving ourselves. If it's a luxury in Accra, I can't help you there.

Even with normal transportation, Lagos is still more expensive. So you don't know what you are talking about.

For you to say food is cheaper in Lagos than Abuja again shows your ignorance. Abuja borders food producing Northern state with Vast lands like Niger, Kogi, and Kaduna, so how can food be more expensive than in Lagos?

Stick to topics you are familiar with. You see I didn't assume when it came to Northern Ghana because I don't know. So do thesame and stop showing your ignorance.

vaxx:
it varies ogbeni, I have been hearing this nonsense quite a lot . Northern Ghana is way far cheaper than southern Nigeria ( groceries) . While northern Nigeria is actually more cheaper. Accra and Abuja are quite the se when it comes to expenses only lagos seems more cheaper

You are not correct. Abuja is cheaper than Lagos in transportation (uber, bolt) and food. It only competes with Lagos in rent.


I think everywhere in the South, one dollar at 890 naira would still get you a plate of Eba, Soup, and Meat. If we use the black market rate of today, one dollar at 1400 naira would still get you that even in okay restaurants.

I don't know if 11 cedis can get you a plate of such food anywhere in Northern Ghana. If it can of course I am ready to learn.

Also, Accra and Abuja are not even close when it comes to high cost of living. Only Lagos comes close to Accra in that in the entire Nigeria.

theenchanter:
English is not so hard to understand, na u dey force urself to misunderstand am.

That must be a hell of emotional torture.🤣

Omo that guy sabi twist English chai 😄😂

ProblemChild1:
Thank you for this video. @Vakelvin this is the video I'm talking about there's no city in Ghana he can compare it with Abuja in terms of cleanest, Infrastructure, development. He even said Abuja is a green city. Hope you will shot up now you idiot

He is trying to twist it now and limit Wode Maya's words to Abuja just being organized and more serene only 😄

GeneralDae:
Maybe we both different ideas of main areas but I'll pass on this one.

This is what Wode Maya said and I quote:

" I saw Abuja is different in terms of development. I think they took their time to develop Abuja. So when you go to Abuja you'll see that everything is like on point, everything in Abuja is on point like the road system, the traffic system, and everything. It's not like Lagos, if you go to Lagos, everything is here there. But Abuja is like organized, I don't know
how to explain like I don't know any city in Ghana I can use to compare Abuja, no no. It's like well organised, let me say Abuja is something like Rwanda Kigali but Kigali is cleaner than Abuja but that's the only thing I would say, Kigali was cleaner than Abuja but Abuja was beautiful, green, it's like a green city, infrastructure"...

From this transcript, Wode Maya speaks not just of Abuja being organized but also in terms of development, infrastructure.

Earlier in the video, he already made clear that out of the four cities he visited in Nigeria, Abuja is the most developed second to Lagos. So when he also says no city in Ghana can be compared with Abuja, he is speaking comprehensively as well. Not just of organisation and greenery only but of development and beauty. It's clear Charlie.

The best one can do is disagree with Wode Maya. Even some Nigerians here like forgiveness and popizaino (and a few others) may likely also disagree with him for saying Abuja is the most developed city in Nigeria ahead of Lagos. But what they would not do is try to twist his words or select them.

vankelvin:
According to @Wode Maya
Abuja is at the level of Kigali
well organized

nothing more

Lol. We should Ignore the "development" he spoke about a few times and the "infrastructure" he spoke about and "the everything" he kept on emphasiizng and concentrate on only the word "organized". Ah Charlie 😄😂

vankelvin:
You guys surprise me

The guy was emphatic so I don't get your point exactly

He said all the good things about Abuja

He now stressed on how well organized Abuja was and then said none of the cities he visited in Nigeria including the ones we have here in Ghana is as organized as Abuja

Then he went ahead to liken Abuja to kigali
QUOTE: Abuja is something like kigali but kigali is cleaner

You are not smarter than anyone here

He now stressed on how well organized Abuja was and then said none of the cities he visited in Nigeria including the ones we have here in Ghana is as organized as Abuja

Nah he didn't specify only the bolded

vankelvin:
So where did he say Abuja is develop and better than Accra.

If what you guys are insinuating is anything to go by then he also said Kigali is ahead of Abuja in everything and more(cleaner,)

So show me where he said Kigali is ahead of Abuja in everything?
In speaking of Kigali, he was careful to add:

"but Kigali was cleaner that's the only thing I would say but in terms of infrastructure.."

Stop being disingenuous Charlie 😄

vankelvin:
Have you been to Accra before?

same way you can get whatever you want in all the high end areas in Accra.

I have for years been consistent with my view on Abuja. Serene, organized, wide roads but nothing special.
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Maybe we both different ideas of main areas but I'll pass on this one.

This is what Wode Maya said and I quote:

" I saw Abuja is different in terms of development. I think they took their time to develop Abuja. So when you go to Abuja you'll see that everything is like on point, everything in Abuja is on point like the road system, the traffic system, and everything. It's not like Lagos, if you go to Lagos, everything is here there. But Abuja is like organized, I don't know
how to explain like I don't know any city in Ghana I can use to compare Abuja, no no. It's like well organised, let me say Abuja is something like Rwanda Kigali but Kigali is cleaner than Abuja but that's the only thing I would say, Kigali was cleaner than Abuja but Abuja was beautiful, green, it's like a green city, infrastructure"...

vankelvin:
You obviously came to throw a blind support as typical of you but in your head you know the truth.

If you want to twist what @Maya said to meaning that Abuja is ahead of Accra then it means Kigali is also ahead of Abuja because he said so

Accra has more to offer than Abuja
infrastructurally (in all facet of development)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgdRebD7y4E?si=FFAIxjwYZ05C_HSK

You are the one twisting what Wode Maya said. He said Kigali beats Abuja in terms of cleanliness. That's all he said.

Everybody can go watch that video to see who is twisting his words. I believe you know what you are doing 😄😄

Maya was even struggling to single out a Ghanaian city in order to bring the point closer home to the interviewer but he just could not imagine any Ghanaian city, only Kigali which he said was just cleaner.

Everybody knows Kigali is the cleanest city in Africa.

vankelvin:
I repeat, it will take Abuja 100 more years to be on the same level with Accra.

Even from this video just as all the other Abuja videos, the focus is the street view of wide roads and trees. That aside nothing much there to see

Now compare the two

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgdRebD7y4E?si=FFAIxjwYZ05C_HSK

I watched your video. Your Airport City Area at the beginning of the video is my favourite part of Accra but that East legon is no different from most parts of PH currently and is not spectacular.

Abuja has wide, well planned roads, trees, and also very nice buildings spread across but it has large expanse of land and spaces and was planned that way. The thing with Abuja is that most of its development around the main city (not the outskirts) is diversified. For instance, if you live in Wuye or Gwarimpa, you don't need to go to Asokoro, Maitama, or Wuse 2 for whatever you need. For a great housing estate, cinema, Spa, Shopping Complexes or good roads.

Deltamani:
Omor is not easy ooo and not her fault too, Someone who has gone through ACL injury.. Look at Alexia Putellas she had to undergo another Knee Surgery just to get better again.. PSG Center Back Dudek has been out with Two ACL injuries back to back…! Abeg e no easy.

Women are the real adjebutters 😂😄
I don't know how easy it's gonna be on them because men with generally stronger bones are also having a hard time. Not easy at all.