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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Should church Be Celebrating Independence? by Genesis2000(op): 7:11pm On Nov 04, 2016

Happy weekend..

Jobs/Vacancies › Re: EFCC Ignores Federal Character In Staff Recruitment - The Authority by Genesis2000(m): 3:09pm On Nov 04, 2016

EnEnPeecee:
Buhari is a complete dullard.

Jobs-North.
Political appointment-North.
Board of Directors-North.
Government Projects-North.

May Those who contributed to this disaster by bringing this dullard to power never know peace.

Nonsense

My man which be cause again? Back to sender.

I no go lie i follow vote for am.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Christians Hate Homosexuals If God Created Them That Way by Genesis2000(m): 2:28pm On Nov 04, 2016

^^^ but having said that. We should also understand the purpose of God doing these.

We are nolonger in time of law but grace. This grace is not for sinners but were sufficients to the children of God.(righteous)

Jesus Christ has come with a boat. And the key is with him. This is not a do or die affair. Follow him and have access to the boat, or deny, or dishonor him and be perish/destroyed
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How do i know this? Good. Those who didn't enter the noahs ark were destroyed with flood. Now God has brought another ark and this ark is Jesus. Look at what he says in Matthew 24: 37 for as it were in the days of noah so shall it liken the day of coming of the son of man.

There is no more an excuse now.

We should try to get some important fact here. These ark is not the one built with wood or build with hand. This one was build without hand. We are talking about heaven. People that entered noahs ark latter died. But those who will enter this very ark will never see death.

Dear this ark is heaven. Just like every other countries have their conditions you must meet before granting you a visa. E.g. America. So God has it own condition you must meet before you can be granted a visa. And that visa is Jesus.

And homosexual, idolatry, robber lesbians and the likes will never be granted that visa. That is what everybody should bear in mind.

Like i said earlier, i don't hate human being as a person weather sinner or not but i only hate the practicing of homosexuality. 2 God does not create anybody to have carnal knowledge with mankinds all these are the work of Satan.

As God change the heart of Nebuchadnezer ythat he began to eat grass like OX so is how Satan has changed the heart of men to began to have canal knowledge with mankind and still proud of it.

Can you imaging a man sliting a another mans throat with knife like a goat, with out having any feeling? Do you thinks it is normal? Do you know that shedding of blood is nothing to some people?

These people heart and mind have been changed and poluted. But that's not how it is from the beginning.

So therefore anyone who possess these kind of heart without bornaging. E.g. Possessing the heart and mind of Jesus before they die, will never make heaven.
It is as simple as that.

Thanks.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Christians Hate Homosexuals If God Created Them That Way by Genesis2000(m): 2:27pm On Nov 04, 2016

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Christians Hate Homosexuals If God Created Them That Way by Genesis2000(m): 12:39pm On Nov 04, 2016

aminusanti:
No one born to be homosexual, the first people committed this crime were Lot's people and they were destroyed

If homosexuality is a natural thing, GOD wouldn't punish them such punishment:

The purpose of life is to worship GOD and work our way to Paradise, which He created us for. But Paradise is not cheap - however the harder the struggle the more beautiful the rewards. GOD has given each of us something to struggle with, and in His Mercy He chose that struggle that we were most capable of. No matter how hard it might be, remember that "GOD does not burden a soul with more than it can bear".

Everyone's struggle is unique. It could be in the form of kleptomania, physical or mental handicaps, obsessive compulsive disorder, being born in an extremely impoverished environment, being trapped in a war-stricken place like in Palestine or Myanmar or Afghanistan with your parents and siblings wounded and raped in front of your eyes and bombs exploding around you at all times, or being homosexual, or being straight but never getting a chance to marry the person you love, or being straight but just so obsessed with lust and desire that controlling oneself from adultery feels impossible, or straight but so physically handicapped that one can never have a relationship with anyone anyway. Everyone in all of these situations could ask "If I am bound to sin or be miserable in this situation, why did GOD put me in it in the first place?" but the reality is that we can deal with it, and this is our test. GOD alone knows that He chose this test for us over others, because maybe we wouldn't be able to deal with other tests. For example, one of the reasons GOD makes some people born in poverty is because He knows that had He given them riches, they may have abused their wealth. Or maybe He wanted to put them in that situation to develop the skills or patience to deal with other important things that they will be facing in life. The purpose of life is to see the beauty in everything despite all the odds, i.e. to worship GOD and attain Heaven.

good write up. Love your response.

But sir. Can you kindly clarify these?

Yes as a Christian, i don't like the sin or it equivalent. I don't hate anyone i only hates the works of men.

These were my questions.

Does a man be punished for what he doesn't know about? I know you will answer this one perfectly by say ignorance is not an excuse.which i also agree with you.

But do you punish me for the law that does not exist. E.g. A law that is not been passed or established? Can i break a law that does not exist?

Why do we have laws and to whom does it belong to?
Mind you laws differs from one country, religion, and one ethnicities from the others.

In India you don't kill a snake unnecessarily. Their is a penalty for that. Why? Majority of them worship it as God. But in Nigeria here snake is a very delicious meal. Lol. You knows what am talking about.

Alright. Abraham lives in the land of Or. If am not mistaken. His father and that Jeneration worships idol. But God decided to choose him and strike a conversant with him. First you are going to leave this land, and when you gets there, this is what you should be doing and not like the land i called you out from.

Now do you agree that the land Abraham comes out from does not know anything like adultery and fornication?
There is a tendency that this people might also involved in homosexuality. It is obvious that sodom and gormorah was not the only city that ingages in such activities. Infact all gentiles nation does that and also sleep with animals. Can you see that?

You know i make mentions of God striking a covenant with Abraham. (Israel) you will always hear God of Israel. Yes he started with isreal
there is a place he said Israel is my first born.
Exodus 4;22 then you shall say to pharoah, thus said the Lord Israel is my first born.

There was no law on earth before, man behaves as he likes. Man marying his sister, sleeps with stone, sleep with animals and kill anyhow some even eat theirselfeves. Just like animal in the bush. But in heaven there is law. Garden of Edem is a very good example. All this began to happen when Satan came into the world.

But God as a perfect person decided to form a family to be after his heart and image, and become perfect as well. And this family happen to be Abraham nd his children.
Gen: 17. 1 when Abraham was ninety nine years old, the Lord appeared to him and said IAM God almighty walk before me and be thou perfect. he uses Abraham as an example to free the world of corruptions. And gave them law.

The earth is the Lord and the fullness thereof

Sodom and gomorah also belong to God, he as well decided to use them as an example by destroying them with fire. Which was their head quarter. Dont be surprise that God might forgive them too.

So God does not made any man a gay. But Satan did by changing their heart n mind.

Christianity Etc › Re: What Does MMM Really Stands For? by Genesis2000(op): 9:34am On Nov 04, 2016

Good morning to you all.
Happy Friday.

Christianity Etc › Re: VIDEO OF Church Where People Are Receiving '666', The Mark Of 'antichrist' by Genesis2000(m): 8:56am On Nov 04, 2016

analice107:
I will be waiting for you to elaborate. and pls wen u post a scripture, quote it in full, dont just post the book and verse.

good morning. I have wanted to start typing and i pursed for a minute.

I first ask you a question base on the mark of 666 coming after rapture, that you should provide any scriptural backing that support your claim but you haven't do that.

Secondly i also told you that if you re in a place where they were given people mark. 666 will you receive it, believing it is a fake one? You never answered any of them.
But now you have asked me who the antichrist is? And yet i have told you who the antichrist is base on what John the beloved said and i also gave you that quotations for you to read yourself. Am not the one who wrote. Again you talking about typing every scripture in full, hmm

Atleast you re a Christian it is not everything i will start writing here , you have a copy of the bible read it yourself since i have already told you where to go.

So i will be waiting for you to prove yourself. Otherwise will not continue. Let start from there. Thank you.

Christianity Etc › Re: VIDEO OF Church Where People Are Receiving '666', The Mark Of 'antichrist' by Genesis2000(m): 9:34pm On Nov 03, 2016

analice107:
Ok, Genesis2000, lets have this discussion.

Who is the Antichrist? Lets start from here?

Good evening.

According to 1 John 4; 2- 3 and 2 John 1;7 made me to understand that antichrist is anyone who opposes Christ. And 2 that there were many antichrist already in the word now. Pls read that place carefully.

This have contradict our morden teacher who teaches that the antichrist will come in the future.

Yes there were speculation about who the antichrist is, or where you expecting me to mentioned name as well? Moreover,
it will interest you to know that the book of Revelation never mentioned anything about the antichrist.

I have been busy through out today, i just log in now to check something and i saw ur mention. Pls I will elaborate more on that tomorrow when am free.

But remember you have never answered my questions.

Bye, do have a wonderful night.

Christianity Etc › Re: VIDEO OF Church Where People Are Receiving '666', The Mark Of 'antichrist' by Genesis2000(m): 5:36am On Nov 03, 2016

analice107:
Shd we follow Man interpretation or what the Bible says?

Show me the place where the said it is going to take place after rapture?
2 if you re in that church will also join them in receiving the mark?

Christianity Etc › Re: What Does MMM Really Stands For? by Genesis2000(op): 5:32am On Nov 03, 2016

Christianity Etc › Re: What Does MMM Really Stands For? by Genesis2000(op): 9:28pm On Nov 02, 2016

jiggaz:
MMM stands for MAVRODIAL MUNDIAL MOVEMENT... It is owned by Sergei Mavrodi, a Russian Mathematician and Computer Programmer....

Please don't make yourself look ignorant by spiritualizing MMM.... So for your mind, MMM is now satanic or mark of the beast? Haba!! Don't make me laugh... People are really making money from it. If you are in doubt, please don't do but don't be a dog in the manger....

Lastly, please we Christians should stop attributing everything to satan, its so appalling. It makes you look foooolish and its not nice.... Am not insulting you but please, don't reason like a bush person. Not everything is satanic, you people are giving satan too much credit.

MMM has more than 80 meaning according to the recent survey, and this your interpretation is just one of them. You re not talking to a novice. Some even called it my main men, man man man, most memorable movement, multiple media mode, make more money, medical missionary of Mary, mess mess mess, media management module, mental medicine man. Hmm the list is endless, you can give it whatever you like.

So what does mavrodial mundial movement Means atleast to a layman understanding?

I have said my own weather you take it or leave it, is nolonger my business. Insult me from now till tomorrow, i have already said my own. Period.

Christianity Etc › What Does MMM Really Stands For? by Genesis2000(op): 8:14pm On Nov 02, 2016

I believe this is the right place to post this topic. Right now am not even concerned about the monetary aspect of it. That's why i have to bring it here.

Yes the CBN has warned us about this so called MMM. Yet CBN is only concerned about our money or preventing us from been scamed, which is also very right, and i really appreciate it.

But the Jesus says what does it profit a man if he gains the whole world and loosed his own soul?

So money is not the issue in this context. Even if you re scamed one billion naira, or thereabout atleast your life still remain.
I was also scamed recently about 75,000 when i was trying to purchased a piece of land at sango ifo LGA. It was half a plot of land which amounts to 150,000 but i have already paid Half of it before i realized that i have been scamed.
I was advice to go to police station to arest them, but when i thought about the whole process
i have to let it go. But atleast my soul remained i did not kill myself.

Yes the soul of anyone is more precious than anything you can think of in these world.

Has anybody ever think of MMM and what it really stands for? What is the full meaning of MMM?
Everybody is talking if they were scammers or not, genuie or not. In otheewords, we were only talking about the monetary aspect of it.

Hmmmmm think again.

I discussed it with my colleague, and he told me that MMM stands for money making machine. Lol
Do you agree with him?

Hmmm there is no way it could be money making machine, why? Good. 1 MMM does not even have any central account where investors can puts their money into.

2 MMM does not buy or sell any product, neither were they into any marketing.

3 MMM is not a binary option. A binary option is a software that was create to generate money which is normally fixed on autorun. These depends on the markets. It could be placed on gold, dollar or oil. Sometimes you may gain or loose. Some of you do understand what i was trying to say and can analyzed it better i do. And were very conversant to it I only want you to get a clue of where am coming from. So there is no way it could be money making machine.

So where do they get the 30 present from, which prospective owners receives?

How do they make their own gains?

Don't you thinks there are more to these than meet the eyes?

Mr bola pays to Mr idowu personal bank account. In otherwords they pay directly to each others banks account and not to MMM account. I was told
when you start with 20,000 and above you will receive a bonus of 20 dollars which is an equivalent to 8000 or there about plus your 30 percents.

And beside, why were they hiding there faces and no physical address?

MMM is the only business or an organization on this earth that does not have a central account. Yet nobody is asking question, all we needed is just the money.

So what the hell is MMM?
Every alphabet stand for something.
How many will i be able to mention here? So who can tell us what MMM stands for?

Now when you look at it numerically it stands as 888.

All this perfect numbers always has a meaning attached to it, that is beyond your understanding. E.g. 666 888 999. They all have meaning, and what they stands for.

And the most painful part of it was that Christians were not even aware of these, or they just decided to ignore it for love of money while were even advertising it to their members. Pathetic.

The devil is very trickish and can use anything to get people especially the believe. The bible forewarned that they will come as an engel of light so that they can get hold of the believers.

Alots of people believe that the mark of the beast will come after rapture. That is where they will be till they will receive the mark of the beast unaware. And by then it has been already too late. May God forbid. So you better be careful before you joined anything now weather on the net or anywhere as we were already on the last day.

God needs your soul while the devil also need your soul that why the bible called him a thief.
So many people thinks that the devil is only after your money, without knowing that human soul was actually his targets.

Remember he told Jesus to bowed down and worshiped him so that he can give him the kingdom of the world and the glory of it?

Today he is still offering Christians the same things he was trying to offer Jesus. Please don't fall for his tricks, don't fall for him.

Beware of MMM. I have said my own, atleast your blood will no be on my head. According to the book of Ezekiel. My spirit ministered this to my hearts yesternight when i was about to sleep.

I will appreciate it if the mod could move it to the front page to atleast to enlighten our people.

God bless you all.

Christianity Etc › Re: VIDEO OF Church Where People Are Receiving '666', The Mark Of 'antichrist' by Genesis2000(m): 5:48pm On Nov 02, 2016

MrPRevailer:
So you have not heard of Church of Satan?

Besides, this is not the real one. The real one only comes after the rapture of the living saints. And most likely infused with a digital chip.
Also, Bible says "it's on the right arm or forehead."

Well, Bible says if any man receives the mark, he will have his part in the Lake of fire THAT BURNS WITH FIRE AND BRIMSTONES. They that resist till death will be saved.

Him that has ear, let him hear.

Hmm did you just say after rapture? My dear Satan is very deceitful. And he can come in so many ways to deceived Christians.

Why did i say this? Everybody might be expecting it to happen after rapture why he will slidishly gives men the mark unaware.

Nobody (Christian) should collect or receive mark of the beast. Which is 666 weather before rapture or after rapture.

Enough said.

Events › Re: Why The Delta Bride Ran From The Wedding Reception - Close Friend by Genesis2000(m): 4:59pm On Nov 02, 2016

Danjuma827:
This lady does not know how men works. For her to decide to marry the recent man is nyc. What if the man is no.more interested in her? What if the man has someone to marry ? Well the lady is on her own.

Hmm i think it is stupidity on the bride side.

This young man reasons of coming might be to congratulate her, and also tell her that he have also married.

So if she have come to realize this latter, what is she going to do next?

Can you imaging.?

Christianity Etc › Re: Benny Hinn At Ayo Oritsejafor's Church In Warri. Photos by Genesis2000(m): 3:59pm On Nov 02, 2016

MinorityTribe1:
Since he is a white man i am sure they will be moved by the holyspirit more . Look how they are falling like pack of cards, They won't fall like this when it is Oritsejafor o.

Why would they fall when the man of God does have Holyspirit.

How would you ever compared orisejafor who almost a politician to Benihin?

You can't eat your cake and have it.

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Politics › Re: The Made In Aba Boots Our Nigerian Army Will Be Rocking Soon by Genesis2000(m): 3:37pm On Nov 02, 2016

gbosaa:
I disagree. That's a very light boot. Look at the design properly. Upper part is tough synthetic and flexible. It aids good ventilation and is comfortable around the ankle and lower part of leg.

Outer sole is where the bulk of the weigh lies. I believe the contractors would use full grain leather for the counter heel and toe vamp. It would be a crime to use faux leather for such. That's my fear and concern.

If the contractors cheat and cut corner by using fake leather, they will be getting lots of complaints from the Army. Normally this sort of shoes should be rigorously tested to make sure they can withstand tough terrains.

Fake materials and bad craftsmanship would be exposed. The faux leather will break and peel off while the sole separates from the upper part if the threading/sewing is bad.

This is an opportunity my Aba brothers must not waste.

you're very correct sir. I did ophostery, and we makes use of leather and fabrics. I think i knows what your talking about.

Am very sure they will not misused this very opportunity as you rightly said.

I have a friend who is currently on these business, they also have
good shoes.

And besides i don't think they will have the courage to do a bad work for the Nigeria Army. I don't think so.

That man talking nonsense is just trying to make caricature of them.
Instead of encouraging them.
Pathetic.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Ayo Oritsejafor Welcomes Benny Hinn To His Church In Warri. Photos by Genesis2000(m): 11:53am On Nov 01, 2016

og2711:
See mumu.

So as slavery is biblical too, oyibo should come back and enslave you nau?

Hmm never you in your life quote me again. You are even out of point in the first place.

Romance › Re: How Can I Handle An Overdemanding Girlfriend? by Genesis2000(m): 7:33pm On Oct 31, 2016

wizzyrich:
Op, truth be told, your likes are the ones causing all these problems for the Boyfriend Association of Nigeria(BAN).

Relationship is a two-way thing, does she give you the same way you give her ?

You provide her with all her needs and when there's no more to give her, she'll dump you and start disturbing another guy for the same money.

Don't you even see his comment above? He is not not ready to take advice, why come here in the first place?

I have over heard him saying that, she will think am stingy. No problem he should not complain again and continue his spending.

Initially i wanted to adviced him but he has already discouraged me with his comments.
wizzyrich:
Op, truth be told, your likes are the ones causing all these problems for the Boyfriend Association of Nigeria(BAN).

Relationship is a two-way thing, does she give you the same way you give her ?

You provide her with all her needs and when there's no more to give her, she'll dump you and start disturbing another guy for the same money.
Don't you even see his comment above? He is not not ready to take advice, why come here in the first place?

I have over heard him saying that, she will think am stingy. No problem he should not complain again and continue his spending.

Initially i wanted to adviced him but he has already discouraged me with his comments.

wizzyrich:
Op, truth be told, your likes are the ones causing all these problems for the Boyfriend Association of Nigeria(BAN).

Relationship is a two-way thing, does she give you the same way you give her ?

You provide her with all her needs and when there's no more to give her, she'll dump you and start disturbing another guy for the same money.

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Romance › Re: How Can I Handle An Overdemanding Girlfriend? by Genesis2000(m): 7:32pm On Oct 31, 2016

wizzyrich:
Op, truth be told, your likes are the ones causing all these problems for the Boyfriend Association of Nigeria(BAN).

Relationship is a two-way thing, does she give you the same way you give her ?

You provide her with all her needs and when there's no more to give her, she'll dump you and start disturbing another guy for the same money.

Christianity Etc › Re: The False Doctrine Of Eternal Torment And Judgement After Death(sleep) by Genesis2000(m): 6:46pm On Oct 31, 2016

honourhim:
I don't have time to keep going round and round over an issue that has been discussed extensively here..
You can continue with your false teaching. You are just quoting scriptures anyhow like pentecostal pastors when they want to lure their congregation into their greed. Of course that is what is required to make a false teaching look like the truth.
In the other threads where this issue was discussed extensively someone asked why would God raise dead sinners some of who died thousands of years ago who have , according to your teaching, gone into extinction (since you don't believe in life after death). If its about extinction why raise them up again since they are already not existing any more?. None of you have provided a satisfactory answer to this.
You can continue with your teaching and win as much souls as you can. For me i stand for the truth no matter how bitter it is.

So your truth is that God will roast people in fire foreverlasting if i get you correctly? Hmmm clap for yourself.

Even abacha and Indiamin of Uganda must be a saint then.

You're the reasons why we have atheists. And God will judge all of you.

Back to the topic.

I used to asked people here on these forum. If the gospel of eternal torment (hellfire) is real why did God note introduce it to people in the old testament?

2 Did he forget to discuss it to all his prophet, starting from Adam to malachi? Atleast warn men of those days about it.

Did you know how many generations there were between Adam and Jesus? Can you tell me how many billions they were?

Ok is like some is saying those people will be judge according to their time, and without the law?
Hmmmmm.

And the people in time of Jesus will be the only ones going to hellfire.

To me what you're saying is that God is partial.

Yes that's what you mean. If the punishment for Adam was to returned to dust according to Genesis ch 3; 17- 19. And someone punishment in the time of Jesus means to spends everlasting in the honest fire ever seen. Believe me what you're say is that God is partial.

If you read the book of Job and ecclesiates you will know that these guys never knew any things about hellfire, yet they were righteous.

The good man of the house sewed a good seed but in the night while men slept the enemy came and sewed tares.

Pls answer all my questions and don't omit or selects any of it.

Thank you.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Pls Help, I Can't Stop Going To Church!!! by Genesis2000(m): 6:02pm On Oct 31, 2016

BossLadyF:
I think the problem you're facing is your church. Why not try to join a department and see if you will love it but again, Maybe you ain't comfortable with your church. The best thing to do is look for a church that you're comfortable with but a spirit filled church. Personally, I was going to a church that my mum used to force us to attend and if my dance department doesn't minister that Sunday, I'll just be sleeping in church. The word wasn't getting to me and when I gained admission, all through my 100lvl I didn't go to church even on holiday, I started giving excuses then I told my parents that salvation is personal. I had to locate my own church and got engaged in a department and now I see fellowship as my lifestyle not a routine because David said "I was glad when THEY said, let US go into the house of the Lord.

Just read the scriptures the others have commented

Yes, i liked your comment. Hmmm i believe that's exactly the problem. I don't think he is comfortable with his family church, we have had such experiences at one Time and the other.
Believe me there were no smoke without a fire. He should look for one church that his spirit accepted, and joined them. He will be good to go.
And besides some of the massages you hears today is nothing to write home about. I knows what am saying.

There is a church that boy will go today believe me he will not like to leave them.

Am also afraid he has already joined nairaland, he might end up becoming an atheist. Nobody actually knows why his father is making it mandatory for him, since he is also a member of this forum.

All these atheist you sees today have one time and the other goes to church before, being a member of one Christians family and the others, that why they were very good in quoting scriptures.

Christianity Etc › Re: Pls Help, I Can't Stop Going To Church!!! by Genesis2000(m): 5:36pm On Oct 31, 2016

petra1:
Hebrews 10:25 (KJV Strong's)
Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.

But the attitudes of these churches this days will make you want to avoid them completely. And it is pathetic.

@the op look 4 a bible believing church around you and start going, it is possible you don't like one or two characters of the pastor incharge or someone might have offended you in your dad church.

because as far as am concern you re still a kid and must take your fathers instruction. Unless you re looking for something else. This is not America.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Role Of Churches In Solving Nigeria's Economic Challenges by Genesis2000(m): 12:21pm On Oct 31, 2016

adahib:
Nice submission. If the churches can actually agree to pull their resources to solve one or two major problems in this country,it would go a long way in pulling this country out of it's current sad situation.

The church should be more than intercessory prayers for the country. The church should be seen to contribute physically to the growth of the country.

Lol you just made me laugh. That's what they knows how to do best, praying for the country and celebrates independence.

Christianity Etc › Re: Ayo Oritsejafor Welcomes Benny Hinn To His Church In Warri. Photos by Genesis2000(m): 11:17am On Oct 31, 2016*

QuietHammer:
Segregation is biblical.

38He saith unto them, How many loaves have ye? go and see. And when they knew, they say, Five, and two fishes.
39And he commanded them to make all sit down by companies upon the green grass.
40And they sat down in ranks, by hundreds, and by fifties.

Lol sometimes you people will make us laugh.
you mean you don't understand why he commanded them to sit that way huh

When you want to share things to people especially food how do you distribute it to them in a big congregation? moreover especially where there is no sit and their were children and women among them.

Did you know that the pharisees also behaves like muslims? go and ask a muslim person how they sits, especially when ever there are women and children among them?

So that is not an excuse that chuches should sit by ranks whenever they meet together.

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Christianity Etc › Re: The False Doctrine Of Eternal Torment And Judgement After Death(sleep) by Genesis2000(m): 10:33am On Oct 31, 2016

Wilgrea7:
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Don't listen to anyone saying that satan and angels and demons are immortal.. they may be immortal to men but not to God.. anyone saying God cannot destroy Satan because satan is immortal is telling a big lie.. God created them and gave them their immortality so he can as well take it away.. i have no doubt Satan's punishment will be way longer than any human because humans live most times below 100 years and they didn't spend every second of the hundred years sinning... also.. it was because of the fall of adam we had the nature to sin
Satan on the other hand was a perfect angel who sinned probably billions of years ago and has been sinning and looking for ways to bring God's plan to fail.. his problem started billions of years ago whereas ours was just a tiny period of time... so Satan's punishment will be more bthan that of every human since he is actually the cause of our problem

Thanks alots. I totally agreed with you, God have the power to destroy satan and his engels with whatever substances he uses in creating them, if he so wishes. I only speaks with what i knows and what I have been familiarized with. Infact to me i don't think God will even take or derived joy in punishing them with fire forever even if they have sins for billions years. The only things I thinks he will do is to destroyed them once and for all. And he can now consetrates with his sons, dauthers and his Holy engels in Heaven.

Christianity Etc › Re: The False Doctrine Of Eternal Torment And Judgement After Death(sleep) by Genesis2000(m): 9:30am On Oct 31, 2016

Peacefullove:
you forget a dead man return to dust !!!

but Satan will be alive for everlasting in that fire right ? will he be dead ?

if Satan is alive for everlasting in that fire , does that not simply means he has everlasting life ( emphasis on " ALIVE " to be living, have life) ?

Hmmm, yes Satan may live everlasting but however I don't know much about him, I only know about man spending an everlasting in heaven. But you should also remember that God has the capacity to destroy satan at the last day. And even if he lives forever he is going to live in torment. Don't you see two different things there?

Christianity Etc › Re: The False Doctrine Of Eternal Torment And Judgement After Death(sleep) by Genesis2000(m): 8:41pm On Oct 29, 2016

Wilgrea7:
if they tell you that you're promoting iniquity, tell them that that they're promoting the false image of a wicked god.

for the fact someone doesn't agree with the truth doesn't make it false..

God bless

can you imaging?

I told a preacher here that can you put your son in a hot oven or fire for just twenty four (24) hrs and watching him tormented there and you're there staring at him, just because he disobeyed you?
He was speechless. Can you imaging? He then trying to corner it and said God can not do it to his son. Can you see? he doesn't want to answer strait question. Are we not all children of God? I was saying can you? But he was saying a different thing. Now if man who is wicked can not be able to do it, for just 24 hrs without changing his mind how on earth will our heavenly, merciful, gracious, and righteous father now do it for everlasting life. Which is more that trillion and trillion years. Does it make any sense atall?

What this individual were also saying is that man is more loving merciful, and than God.

There was a place where Jesus was teaching in Matthew, he said if you who were evil can give good gift to your children how much more will your heavenly father give to those who asked from him. Matthew 7;11 and Luke 11; 13.

Christianity Etc › Re: The False Doctrine Of Eternal Torment And Judgement After Death(sleep) by Genesis2000(m): 7:58pm On Oct 29, 2016

Peacefullove:
So devil and his angels will have everlasting life too ?

@schoola8200
thanks for the bolded.
I was about to comment on it.

And back to you. Read the bolded again God never promise Devil an everlasting life. May be is a typo error.

Yea, according to that very passage. Prepared for the devil and his angels. This this show that that place was not ment for man originally? Can you see that? Why was that kind of punishment made for devil? The answer is that the Satan was not made with sand (dust) but with fire. So Satan will return to where he came from while man will return to dust. There is no other truth that is greater than this.
Read what God told Adam after their disobedient. In Genesis.

Because you have done this, dust you are and to dust shall you return. My dear no be me talkam, na God use him mouth talkam.

But to those who has met his requirement. (Jesus) he will raise them from dust and grant them everlasting life as he originally planed for Adam. Jesus is the requirement of God. That is the only things that you need to have or get access to eternal life.

Did you understand my gospel?

Christianity Etc › Re: The False Doctrine Of Eternal Torment And Judgement After Death(sleep) by Genesis2000(m): 7:06pm On Oct 29, 2016

Wilgrea7:
i didn't modify any word... if u claim Yahweh is trying to modify the bible then why are there still many of his followers who believe in this doctrine? the false doctrine was introduced by the roman Catholic church. their biggest mistake was letting us have our own bible

Welcome sir. I have been following this thread. And i don't know what else to add, you have said it all. Infact i have even learn more from you today.

You remember i told you last time on the other thread. That i decided to reserve my comments on some of the issues like this, that otherwise they will thought i am encouraging iniquity.

All what you said here is what i have always hold on to right from the onset.

I will use the reply button later later when am through.

Thank you.

Christianity Etc › Re: I Think I'm Losing My Belief by Genesis2000(m): 5:19pm On Oct 27, 2016

Wilgrea7:
i like your reasoning.... i don't claim to know all... I'm ready to learn also.. maybe sometime we can discuss more on the issue if you'd agree

Ok, that will be fine. Thanks.

Christianity Etc › Re: Rapture: No One is Disappearing to Anywhere. by Genesis2000(m): 12:52pm On Oct 27, 2016

MrPresident1:
Who will take up this challenge?

Just one single verse to explain 'Rapture as a doctrine of mysterious disappearances'

Kingebukasblog, Scholar8200, Sisterme, Hydoxonium, Annyplenty, Analice107, Goshen360 I need enlightenment

Hmmm if i get you clearly, you mean if we met him in the air, do we now remain in the air permanently?

Who is going to remain on the earth?

Staying in the air is it the same thing as living on the earth? I have personally asked that question before on our bible study, and am not satisfied with the reply given to me.

Because the bible make it clear that we shall ever continue to live with the Lord there. (In the space) confused.

Again Jesus promised us that where he is going is where we will be. So when, and where was the place Jesus is talking about.

Pls can you expanciate more to this teaching. because right from the onset we always belief about our disappearing from this earth, which is called rapture. Thank you.

Christianity Etc › Re: Rapture: No One is Disappearing to Anywhere. by Genesis2000(m): 12:31pm On Oct 27, 2016

MrPresident1:
I need someone to show me one verse, only one verse that explains this mysterious disappearance called 'Rapture'.

Who is ready to take on this challenge?

following sir.

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