mtisTheQubit:

first the shy guy i was referring to (the photo please) is Buhari..is he not a hausa ?..

Second whats all ths about north vs south wherever ya cornered..

Really? How do you mean?

mtisTheQubit:

The photos ya posted..just normal stuff in kenya ..

~~~~Well, can you guys show us such Kenyan photos? Can we be enmeshed in such beauty and simplicity that radiates from Kenya?~~~~

**** I know the Kenyan Swahilis and Somalis may posses such, but I doubt the Kenyan Bantus and Nilotes who posses 90% of Kenyan population can.

Nowenuse:


Genie, are you really sure?

Almost every Hausanized person still knows his/her original tribe and may not claim to be Bahaushe (original hausa man) in the midst of Hausa speakers.

They may not claim to be Hausas in the midst of Hausa speakers, but before non Hausa speakers they surely do. **** They defend Hausa with their lives and look or talk no different from the average Hausa man. Their not being hausa only ends on their lips, every other thing about them reeks hausa.

>>>> Besides in Bauchi, many are now full blooded hausas and see and adress themselves as such.

NairobiWalker:


It's just interesting how you love to insist the Arab influence on Swahili but ignore it on Hausa.

Swahili originated from the current day Lamu County and spread all the way down to Mozambique including some Indian Ocean islands such as Comoros.

You just don't get the differences.

***** Hausas arabic influences came from the Hausas themselves. For instance when you see the ancient city of Kano, you can see that the style of house buildings were somehow modelled after Arabian city settings, just that it was still far below Arab standards.

~~~ This is because the Hausas themselves travelled far and wide across the middle east/North Africa and copied these things for themselves. Native hausas learnt from the Berbers/Arabs when they travelled out to Arabian/Berber lands.
This is very very very different from East Africans who had their Arabic influences from native Arabs coming to their door steps to intermix with them.

>>>> Bantu east Africans never knew how to navigate the Indian ocean across to the Arab world, neither did they embark on transaharan routes. Hausas on the other hand embarked on transaharan routes for centuries. The Arabs never came to hausa land. Hausas went there.

rvp20183:
Hausa are cousins of Somalis and Oromos.Those pic are recent admixture from islamization.They are not Habesha.They are on average darker.South Africans are lighter cozof Khoisan.Nilotes like those in Nigeria North East are darker than Bantus.All that is nonsense.Unless you have low self-esteem and nothing to be really proud of except your body biology.

Hausas are cousins of Oromos & Somalis? Hmmmm,
***** Well, perhaps, Hausas are Chadic, Oromos and Somalis are Cushitic. Well, they are both related but far apart.
~~~ The mixture of Hausas came from the fulanis who are half berber (north african) by origins.

NairobiWalker:


I understand but can somebody from Delta state, born and raised, claim to be Hausa? Even in Kenya, many coasterians such as Mijikenda (whose language is basically a different form of Swahili and sounds exactly like Swahili) claim to be Swahilis. But this guy was born and raised in interior Tanzania. There's nothing Swahili about him other than being able to speak the language. He's just being stupid.

Mmm, actually, if that Deltan speaks Hausa as a native, has hausa/islamic names and most importantly becomes muslim and acts like a northerner. He may be considered as one. Just that his fellow Deltans may reject him And he may no longer be able to represent Delta state or claim Delta state.

****** In Tanzania, I think Swahili culture has seriously affected the hinterlands, to the extent that it doesn't matter anymore.
So, I think what you should do is find out, how the majority of Kazikazi's tribal people behave. Do the majority of them now consider themselves native swahili speakers and have rapidly abandoned their cultures for swahili? If yes, then Kazikazi may have a good point. Otherwise, we can say he is just confused

mtisTheQubit:

an i thought the shy boy is the face of Naija.. the dude is hausa

The chances of you finding a Hausa person in Kenya are very slim, so I really don't believe this.

-------There is no face of Naija. The truth is that the major difference in Nigerian faces is mostly divided into Southern & Northern Nigeria.. .... Northern Nigerians tend to have a simpler, rounder and more 'feminine' face compared to southern Nigerians.
****** However, that doesn't mean there are no simpler, rounder and feminine faces in the south and no broader faces in the north.

°°°°°For instances, most Kenyans accept the faces they see on Nollywood to be the perfect representation of Nigerian faces. Forgetting that most Northerners look like this.

NairobiWalker:


In that case your reasoning capacity is wanting.

Remember Bantu was once a single language - not even Bantu, all Africans once spoke the same language and the more they interacted with different communities, the more their languages differed. All languages are what they are due to foreign contact. Your insistance on Swahili being what it is due to contact with Arabs is just the typical Nigerian hypocrisy of rubnishing success of other Africans.

Yes you are right, but in most cases with the evolution of new languages, it involves a group of native speakers breaking away from the mother area and evolving new features either by interraction with others or isolation.
******* In the case of Swahili, it was somewhat the same. Just that another entirely different mix of genes, cultures and lifestyles came into the gene pool.
Arabs have already evolved a more advanced trade system than East African Bantus and this was the factor that mobilized the spread of the language all around the coasts and the hinterlands.
~~~~~ So, there is absolutely no way we can absolve Arab influence and contribution from the identity and spread of swahili, it's just impossible. It was a joint Bantu-Arab affair.

¤¤¤¤ It's just like us trying to say that South African blacks are all Bantus and completely absolve the contribution of the Khoisans who even gave south african Bantu languages the unique click sounds they posses today.

PS.......I'm pretty sure if Swahili was a wholly Tanzanian language you'd be praising it like it was the most awesome thing to happen to Africa. Now that you know its actual origin is Kenya, you strive to rubbish it.

I thought Swahili originated all along the coasts of both Kenya & Tanzania at once?

Kazikazi:
To google about Swahili people? I am a Swahili.Should I google myself?? Ho ho ho ho...

FYI,anybody can post anything online.Even fools posts tons of lies.We don't have to swallow everything but we need to verify.

A white dude can come in the coastal of east Africa and see some dudes who don't speak any tribal language but Swahili.He will arose and say Swahili is a tribe! Is a big tribe! He then writes his articles online and people will swallow that..

You too can go in west Africa and see the guys who speaks pidgin.Just come back and say pidgin is a tribe! Its a big tribe!

Friend,If we use DNA no one has Swahili DNA.All results will show all these Swahilis are from either Arab or some African Bantu tribes.Its the same case if we do to pidgin speakers.

Ok NairobiWalker, let's put childishness asides and be factual.
****** Here in Nigeria, there are non hausas who now identify as Hausas because they have been subsumed under Hausa culture and language. They've abandoned their own ancestral languages and now speak hausa as a mother tongue.
I think this is the exact case with Kazikazi. Many Tanzanians seem to have been subsumed by swahili language and culture, to the extent that they now see themselves as part of it. Going by this, don't you think they should be able to claim swahili nativity? Thanks.

>>>> Afterall, the Arabs of North Africa and the Levantine were never originally arabs, but were arabized. Today, they claim to be arabs and the world considers them such.

mtisTheQubit:

so what the face of naija coz the ogas i see here all look the same.. ..which tribe is that..

Mostly Yorubas, Igbos, then perhaps Edo/Deltans.

Kazikazi:
Yes it could be great if all east Africans unite and form a single entertainment industry. We were going to swallow the whole of Africa.But there are many obstacles...

First,Most Kenyans value English than Swahili.Its hard to convince them to let go of English.

Second,The entertainment industry in Tz doesn't have gov funding.Its purely individuals effort,in this case it will be harder for private companies to shoulder all the costs of unification.

Then,who will lead the industry? Kenyans aren't ready to been led by Tanzanians! Its a fact.Even on East African community there is a lack of leadership due to the same issue of everyone wants to lead.Kenya and Tz have a "siblings rivarly" type of relationship.

Interesting. I don't think a joint East African entertainment industry has to do with Tanzanians leading Kenyans or Kenyans leading Tanzanians.
****** I think it has to be more of you guys featuring each other.
Take for instance, some Ghanaian movies tend to be popular in the Nigerian market, because their movie producers feature our actors.

~~~~ Tanzanian producers can feature Kenyan actors in their movies and vice versa.

Btw, I would love to ask, how popular are Nigerian movies and musics in Tanzania?

jaycent:
Ah Minna aka haife Ni? Kaii Nai kamar da su ne, ko ya

Tambaya nake dan'uwa. Tunda na gan ka iya Hausa sosai

NairobiWalker:

Now tell genieluv Kiswahili is more Bantu than Arab. She keeps insisting Kiswahili is Arab.
Choma is to roast or burn.

I never argued that swahili isn't more Bantu dear. Just that without the Arabs it would never have been possible.
******* It's just like present day Hindi which was brought about by Iranian contact. Present day Hindi is now very different from Sanskrit (the original language). Get it?

NairobiWalker:


Why do you love being so hypocritical?

A few pages ago you disagreed with him for saying this exact thing, now because you're looking for an ally to save you from the Miss USIU-Africa beating above, you support him on exactly the same thing just to earn an ally. Interestingly you didn't even read what he posted considering your response is not even coherent with it.

Lol... That's because I discovered that Swahili is not really an original identity sort of.
***** It was still somehow in the process of evolving.

mtisTheQubit:
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aint a fool ...just a guy looking for answers

So, you want to make me believe you understand Hausa? Well, thanks to google translate.

Kazikazi:
1. The authors of Swahili dictionaries are searching for new words and after meeting a criteria its then added into a dictionary. So your american master never cause a word safari to be a Swahili word.The word was used for centuries before a guy arrived in Kenya.Actually a word safari in Swahili means a journey.American dude just think it only means wild game viewing trip only.

2.I am a Swahili.All those guys in Kenya whom you call waswahili are Swahilis just because of speaking.They are natural born speakers.Swahili is a mixture of different languages. All those guys who started speaking were from all different tribes.

3.When I say Swahili is my mother tongue it hurts you.You think I am proud.No.I just explain who I am.a mother tongue is your first language,it can be your tribal language or not.

4.Yes I have a tribe.My fathers tribe.That's my DNA.I am a swahili too.Swallow that!
FYI..All these people called Swahilis have their lineages.Their fathers are from tribes.Since when did they stop their lineages and starting a new tribe called Swahili? If we use DNA we won't get a single person with DNA of Swahili.All these Swahilis will have Arab DNA or African tribal DNA.In such case we will be correct to say Swahili isn't a tribe,isn't a race but a language formed by mixing different languages.

Good explanation bro. It really pains Kenyans that they don't speak such beautiful swahili as Tanzanians.

From my conclusion, I think Swahili is just a hybrid identity. It hasn't evolved for long.

Nowenuse:


Yes we are cousins. Mad people.

Gaskiya, su wawa ne.

mtisTheQubit:

genieluv here in Kenya we mixede lot..more than you guys.we got cushites,nilotesm,bantus,arabs ,white,indians an also tanzanians

No, Bantus and nilotes are the overwhelming majority and the face of Kenya.
***** The rest are a tiny minority.

mtisTheQubit:


She is a Nigerian. Apparently Kenyans trolled her on twitter but I guess everyone got his/her taste. Anyway she is a cutie though. I blame the camera though . Below is a photo of her

Lol, you are kinda correct. The camera didn't justify her natural looks.

NairobiWalker:


FYI, This girl is Nigerian. Her name is Nneka Enyantu Obi. The joke is on you.

Hahaha, Well, your country found her beautiful. This shows that Nigeria's ugliest is crowned a Beauty queen in Kenya.

obaaderemi:
Bolaji Dawodu. Babe couldn't resist that chest and the swag and everything in between, opened and covered

NairobiWalker, can you see that Lupita the most famous Kenyan woman alive dated a Nigerian man called Bolaji Dawodu?
***** I tried to check on the guy's fame and he doesn't even have a wikipedia page. He has very little fame compared to the world renowned Lupita. Smh.

The best from Kenya always ends up with the average Nigerian.
>>>>> Chai, Shame dey catch me for una nor be small.

darfay:



Yeah most beautiful girl/gull( this wan pass girl) in Kenya



CC genieluv

Hahahaha, is this supposed be a Kenyan beauty pageant contestant?
***** @ NairobiWalker, I guess these are the small and round headed Kenyan women you boast of? I give up on your behalf

obaaderemi:
Bolaji Dawodu. Babe couldn't resist that chest and the swag and everything in between, opened and covered

Oh my. Bolaji is just so hot and handsome.
***** He isn't so popular, is he? First time I'm hearingof him.....

NairobiWalker:


I guess Goodluck Jonathan and Olesgun Obasanjo are very handsome people.

Neither of them were born in wealth unlike Uhuru.
*****Born in stupendous wealth, yet still looking so ugly!
God forbid !

@NairobiWalker, I bet you have tapped out

***** Nigeria has the most beautiful women in Africa and that is a fact ! (Even with our wide faces). I guess you now see how the biggest celebrity in Kenya got an A class unknown lady?

obaaderemi:
Even Lupita, the goddess Little Indians worship had to find herself a Nigerian brother at a point.

Really? Who pls?

4kDdullard:
See them here

Uhuru Kenyatta is just so so damn ugly for someone who was born into abundance of corrupt wealth !

***** In Nigeria, it's just so difficult for you to find Nigerians born and brought up in wealth, yet look so ugly

@NairobiWalker & Kur17

**** Are you guys comparing politicians?

Can you show me any Kenyan politicians that can compare Nigerian Nazeef Babaji & Umar Nasko?

@ NairobiWalker.

The Kenyan women who will defeat Nigerian women when it comes to beauty are not yet born

NairobiWalker:


Beauty is not just about being thick, look at the figure, the skin tone. You have to be a special type of fool to compare Sarah Hassan to Omotola whatever. It just can't work. Ask an impartial person and nobody will choose Omotola over Sarah. It just can't be.

Omotola is too much to handle Sarah.

***** Here are unknown everyday Nigerian women that make your Sarah look ugly

I've told you, only Habesha women can manage to compare these women in the entire sub-saharan Africa.

Nowenuse:


Omg! This is so epic! Permit me to repost!

genieluv, come and see what your Kenyan friends are up to. ... Can you see how much of liars and pretenders Kenyans are? Nigerian lifestyle and cultures are really eating up these guys Imagine a Kenyan shouting Chineke?
Even we from other parts of Nigeria do not this, but Kenyans do.

Cc NairobiWalker, mtisTheQubit, Jonraid, rvp20183

Hahahaha. That is all I can say

Nowenuse:


Hahahaha, gaskiya wannan mutane basu da Kunya samsam.

NairobiWalker, can't you see how your shamelesness have been exposed? See how this page was celebrating Sauti sol getting an unknown Nigerian girl and talking about getting back at Nigerian men.

Pathetic. Such low self esteem.

Seriously, can't you see that they are now quiet about the whole issue?
**** Low self esteemed niggars!