forgiveness:




Eko White pearl tower has been upgraded from 31 - 37 floors. . It should be around 165m.

http://www.ekopearltowers.com/blog/2017/09/28/eko-pearl-tower-c-updates-changes/

See the construction below.

You can also see other projects here. The latest is Corporate Tower I.

The Tower on the left.

http://www.ekopearltowers.com/

Eko Atlantic city is definitely not going to have a match in Africa when it's completed.
***** It's a pity that the builders of Abuja centennary city are not serious.

NairobiWalker:
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You can't avoid Kenyans, Kenyans are like the air you breathe. When we speak, you feel a tinge to respond. When we are not around, you get suffocated. A thread about Kenya is definitely the longest on Nairaland and you can't keep off it. See? We are your fathers. Baba zenu.

Just for the records, this is not the longest thread on nairaland.
**** This thread is long because you Kenyans seem so interested in Nigeria. There are even more of you here than Nigerians here.

PROVERBZ:
I think its English and Swahili Burundi is Swahili and French

Permit me to ask if you are Kenyan or Nigerian.

kikuyu1:


Its not just Tigrays;its everyone! Every ethnic group has an ancient grievance with another one:a Nilotic Anuak from the South told me they're regularly referred to as baria (slave) by Tigrayans and Amharas . Also in 2004 or 2003,IIRC, the ruling TPLF killed at least 400 Anuak when they protested the seizure of their farmland.
Among Oromos,Boranas and Gabbras have issues relating to cattle and land that frequently lead to gunshots. At the bottom are the Southerners like Anuaks,Amarkoke,Shangilas and Dassenach. There are deep racial,linguistic,cultural and religious issues in Ethiopia and the surprise is according to their constitution any disaffected group can leave and peacefully secede!

rvp20183:
Indeed Kenya tribalism is benign compared to them. It something that arise in election - otherwise kenyans dine, marry, live and work together. For Ethiopea - it like you've got Indian type caste systems. It like Rwanda-Burundi - Tutsi/Hutu - even inter-marriage is so hard. Yes constitution say you can leave..but Somalis have been trying to leave without much luck. I think Tigrays will eventually live and create another small Eritrea. And so will Somalis. The Oromos & Amharamas can sort of agree to disagree. They clearly don't care about the nilotic south - or the so called Southern Nations.

Hmm, interesting. I think you guys are very correct.
**** The divisions in Ethiopia is far more than Tigray hatred. Every ethnic group seems to be at each others throat over there.

Believe me, Nigeria would have been worse than Ethiopia, had we not dissolved the old regional systems and created a unitary system of government.

>>>> The only people who have not integrated and will never integrate into Nigerian mainstream culture are the Hausa fulanis and Kanuris. Otherwise, other Nigerians wine, dine and intermarry each other.

If I may ask, do Kenyan Swahilis and Somalis socialize and intermarry other Kenyans?

kikuyu1:


True,but having been to both Rwanda and Uganda several times I can say Kikuyus,Masaais and to a certain extent Kambas,but for the eyes are indistinguishable from Rwandese. One Tutsi lady thought I was her dead brother in Kampala 2002!!

Yeah. Kenyans seem to have a very wide range of facial expressions. There is really no stereotypical Kenyan look.
>>> Many Nigerians unfortunately use the Masais and the Kalenjin marathon runners only to judge Kenyans' looks cos that is what they mostly see on TV about Kenya. I used to fall in this category in the past .

**** I have observed that many Kenyans (Bantus and not even Kenyan Somalis) and Rwandans look cushitic like Horn Africans. Many other Kenyans look South Sudanese, many others can pass for Southern Nigerians.

But it seems like Rwandans have a very similar culture, accent and lifestyle with mainstream Bantu Kenya right?

•••• On Trace Mziki (the only channel on DStv that shows mostly east African music), I sometimes find it hard to distinguish which countries which musicians came from.
Take for instance, this song below, I always thought these ladies were Kenyan until yesterday!
Pls can you tell me what language is being sung here?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VPm78zRlPc

And this lady, I though she was Tanzanian, only to discover that she is also Rwandan. Is the language she's singing in also Swahili or Kinyarwanda?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbhVk1_TWTs

~~~~~ I never thought Rwandan or Burundian songs were shown there too, I always thought it was Kenyan, Tanzanian or Ugandan cos obviously Rwandans speak french. How wrong was I, it seems like Rwandans now speak English a lot as of late right?

bantudra:


for me all ethiopians look the same.....i dont care in how many parts they splintter today.....

No they don't. But they look similar.
>>>> Tigrays look quite different from Oromos and Aamharas look different from Omotic speakers and etc.

I can manage to tell them apart

forgiveness:


Exactly my point! You got it.

There are so many beaurifu places not captured in Nigeria. However, it's what Kenya depends on for survival.

Simply true. For instance, not until I came across this thread did I even know the importance of pictoral views of cities.
***** I have come to the conclusion that Nigeria may be seriously lagging behind in terms of development, but it seems like we definitely have more developing urban areas per population compared to other African countries except South Africa. And this definitely occured due to the early proliferation of Nigerian states.
Do you think this military era proliferation of states was good for us?
>>>> For me, I think it was good but we would have stuck with the first 12 states only. As this would have given us 12 very powerful and better developed cities today compared to the dozens we have now (many of whom are shadows of their past selves).

darfay:



you really get time for this sub humans

is there harmattan in Abuja already, it's getting serious in Lag

Nor be small thin bros.

**** I'm in Kaduna now and it's getting really cold. This morning it was 17°c. My sister said it's the same in Abuja.
Bro, we are enjoying. My friends in Jos are already heading towards freezing nights !

NairobiWalker:


These are slums in Abuja my friend. Look at the second picture - a slum bordering mansions, still a slum.

Slums without names? And what are the names of these slums? Tell us the names, Let us check them on google maps.

>>>> You can do better than pictures of dumpsites!

NairobiWalker:


Most West African women have wide faces (example, mercy Johnson-like) while East African women have Narrow faces (Example, Lupita, Huddah Monroe). How somebody finds a wide face on a woman prettier than a narrow face is beyond me.

With our wide faces, we have been the first and only Black African country to produce a Miss world. Alert me when Kenyan women and their narrow faces achieve such, then we can talk.

NairobiWalker:


.......I'll ask you one simple question, are those photos Kikuyu posted real? Are they photos of an actual place in Abuja?

The slum on water is clearly not Abuja. That is Makoko.

**** As for the 2nd picture, I am so unsure where that really is cos I could not find the place in all my searches.

ednited:



Yea, I heard about your election. . . something actually happened during campaign or stuffs like that.. . ??
You think Buhari will make it this year? I don't think he is going to. Who will you vote for and why??

We celebrate the culture day wearing our own traditional cloth. Students won't have class in the afternoon to celebrate it. There are concerts and different festivals. It's fun, I will try to check if I could get pics, It has been years since I have celebrated.


Ethiopia issue is very complicated. Abiy may not succeeded in keeping Ethiopia one.

The Eritrea-Ethiopia peace deal was a great news. None of my relatives are Eritreans but I have Eritrean friends and neighbors. When we had party in the neighborhood, all the songs were Ethiopian and Eritrean songs. It was nice

Ok dear, I'll be waiting for the pics and videos
**** Having a national cultural day is so beautiful, we do not have such in Nigeria

Why do you say Abiy may not succeed in keeping Ethiopia one? I'm curious. Is he bias?

>>> So, you mean many Eritreans have been living in Ethiopia? By the way, can you easily tell Eritreans apart from Tigray Ethiopians?

ednited:



Yea, I heard about your election. . . something actually happened during campaign or stuffs like that.. . ??
You think Buhari will make it this year? I don't think he is going to. Who will you vote for and why??

We celebrate the culture day wearing our own traditional cloth. Students won't have class in the afternoon to celebrate it. There are concerts and different festivals. It's fun, I will try to check if I could get pics, It has been years since I have celebrated.


Ethiopia issue is very complicated. Abiy may not succeeded in keeping Ethiopia one.

The Eritrea-Ethiopia peace deal was a great news. None of my relatives are Eritreans but I have Eritrean friends and neighbors. When we had party in the neighborhood, all the songs were Ethiopian and Eritrean songs. It was nice

Oh dear, sorry for the late reply. Discussing with these guys is actually giving me a headache

>>>> I don't think Buhari will make it this year unless of course he and his party rigs the elections (which would be difficult for him of course).

I will vote for Atiku, not because he is good, but because he is better than Buhari in my view and only him stands a better chance against Buhari. He is more enlightened and less of an ethno-religious bigot than Buhari, even though he and Buhari are from the same ethnic group.
Many other reasons quite lengthy to explain.

Nowenuse:


So you watch these musics too? The Ben is a Rwandese singer, you can't expect a Kenyan singer to look as handsome and stylish as he looks.
The best Kenya can offer are ugly looking singer like the likes of Nyanshinki and Sauti sol.

Actually, I also thought this song was a Kenyan song especially at the part where I saw some men drinking Chang'aa or Busaa or whatever they call that crazy alcoholic drink they drink with straws
However, I knew nothing good could come out of Kenya, so I had to google the origin of this singer and voila RWANDA.

Na gaya miki karki kara kashe lokacin da mutane irin NairobiWalker da sauran su masu wawanchi.

>>>>> To think that I have finally found a Kenyan singer which I so much admire ( , I'm in tears right now).

The accent and the changaa drinking in the video were exactly parts of the reasons I thought THE BEN was Kenyan! I also discovered Butera Knowless was Rwandese and not Tanzanian.
East Africans tend to look quite alike to each other.

**** Yes, I watch Trace Mziki where East African musics are mostly shown on DSTV.

NairobiWalker:


Lady, just because there are nice houses nearby doesn't mean there is no slum. Even in Kenya, slums border very high class neighborhoods.


So you want to change the definition of the word slum to suit your hypocrisy? Please google the word slum and see what it means.


Lady, there are slums in Nigeria, hundreds of slums. It's interesting how hard you try to paint a rosy picture or Nigeria yet accuse Kenyans if doing the same. Those pictures Kikuyu posted are slums. There's a popular photo on this thread that shows a slum right in the middle of a commercial area in Lagos.


I'll agree with you on that, we do not. Kenyans have on average better housing than Nigerians with better sewage, water and electricity connection.


That's just effed up. No wonder most of your cities are extremely ugly.

Lady, all slums are illegal. The whole of Kibera is illegal, the whole of Makoko is illegal. using the illegal status of Nigerian slums to claim they're not slums is just absurd.


You're a special case. I can't understand how somebody can be shown pictures of a slum, a real slum, and still deny it's not a slum just because it borders a high end neighborhood.

I also give up on explaining anything to you either.

@ the bolded in your last paragraph shows that I've been pouring water in a basket all these while. You just never understand what one says.

***** Just for the records, no slum borders any high end neighbourhood. The places you guys claim are slums are just a neighbourhood in a suburb you claim are slums but are not.
Those beautiful houses and estates I showed are not neighbouring to the areas you guys claim are slums, but are actually in those places. You guys force words into people's mouth to buttress your points from an already made up mind.

>>>> Perhaps you may want to look at the google map pictures below from Durumi, Mpape, Koroduma & Kpaduma (the places you guys claim are slums).

Besides, koroduma and Kpaduma are not even part of the FCT, they are in neighbouring Nasarawa state.

I'm happy other viewers and the whole world are reading all these, they would be able to judge for themselves who is being more reasonable. Peace !

NairobiWalker:


Your insults are normally subtle - that's the reason I say you're a hypocrite. Making indirect low jabs while at the same time trying to play good - for instance you've been going on talking about grooming, (really? How are you even able to tell how Kenyans groom when you've never been to Kenya?), Don't have a sense of style (have you been to Kenya again). You would say something like 'I don't really find them as attractive as Nigerians' and think you're such a good person. Well, I see right through your bull.sh.it.


These are some of the things that make me call you a hypocrite. Which television is that that you watch? Which station? All Tanzanian programs are in Swahili, can you speak Swahili? So how do you make the judgment from TV? Would you spend hours watching a TV station that speaks a language you don't understand to the extent of understanding a given people? Once again, stop being an expect on things you have no idea of, Naijalander already told you that. He lives in Nairobi and understands East Africa better than you.



Name those East African dramas you watch and the exact station





1. There's no Kenyan musician called THE BEN - reason I'm asking you to stop having an opinion on things you don't understand.

2. Which Kenyan musicians are those you don't find attractive? How many Kenyan musicians do you know? Below is a photo of Otile Brown, a Kenyan and Don-Jazzy, a Nigerian musician. Can you look me in the face and say Don-Jazzy so much more attractive than Otile Brown that you can make a decision such as what you just made above?

3. With statements like this you still want me to quote you a post where you said Kenyans are ugly? You're so hypocritical you can't see through your hypocrisy.

Smh. Are you trying to tell me that most of you Kenyans here just cannot have a decent conversation without hate filled, angry and uncouth language?

>>>> OMG I always thought this song below was a Kenyan song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYLJdSfPGrE

I just discovered that it is actually a Rwandan song and this extremely handsome and sexy dude with a lovely voice called THE BEN is actually Rwandan and not Kenyan

Kur17:


Just call spade a spade!!!

Ithis yr, 2018 Lagos has a population of 23m,

while two out of three lives in slums, that's translates to about 16m slum dwellers...

Unless you're telling us makoko has that population

79% of the country is slums, that's 150m slum dwellers

If these are not slums then the name slums has lost its meaning
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.icirnigeria.org/abuja-midst-slums-story-fast-decaying-city/&ved=2ahUKEwi7_Nurh5XfAhW7UBUIHZk7BSEQFjAOegQIAhAB&usg=AOvVaw3FcyuLnzX2Owk6OUDNYWZc

If that is all you can pick up from my lengthy explanations, then I have to give up on people like you. (smh).

Kur17:


You're purporting how mutual and polite u'r while you spite venom...

You're a lady, I'm sure you find Nigerian ladies more attractive to you bcz they look like dudes to you as lady, hairy looks!

A lady that looks like a man can't be attractive to men maybe to lesbians

Saying I find so so and so people more attractive than others has now become spiting venom?

***** You guys should not make me believe that you are true representatives of what the average enlightened Kenyan talks like.

Perhaps you missed the part where I also praised Kenyan women for their hot bodies.
Like I said earlier, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

>>>> At least Nigerian women have proven their beauty to the whole world by being the first and only black african country to produce a Miss world. We are yet to see such from Kenya.

naijalander:
You are right, Kenyan man are the least attractive men you'll meet.

They usually have dirty eyes cos they drink and smoke a lot.

They also have very low self esteem, they steal too, very dishonest bunch. Your own close friend can arrange robbers to come rob your house over night while you are away.

They are also very jealous & envious people. Especially guys like Kikuyu11

Wow, I haven't related with Kenyans on a personal level, so I really can't say or confirm. However bro, I think you may be too harsh on them with your words. Pls let's be more civil and diplomatic with our words.
Do the educated and enlightened Kenyan men also appear the way you explained above?

***** Personally I also do not find Kenyan women and Southern African women facial features attractive compared to that of west African women. However, when it comes to body shapes, they are hotter.

>>>> Nigerian guys are just so handsome and stylish when compared with other African men. I observed that only Tanzanian and Congolese guys can give our men a run for their money in Sub Saharan Africa. Oh yes, Ethiopians too (when it comes to face though, but not physique).

NairobiWalker:


Genieluv, see the crap your brothers post.

Thank you. Iwantslavesgone, I am calling out on everyone who insists on making this thread an insultive and hate-spewing thread.

>>>> For God's sake, how are we going to look like before our children when they grow up and see the manner at which their parents displayed utter childishness in discussions? The fact that this is a faceless forum without identities does not mean that we have to take advantage of it to display our deep seated insecurities. Cos I highly doubt most of us would have been able to say the things we say here if it were platforms like facebook where our true identities are at display. Thanks

TayserMahiri:


Secretary Genie, I have to say unless you have changed over the past year-long sabbatical am afraid your appeal to sanity is all about guaranteeing an uninhibited practice of your bigotry. You used to be a very bigoted, high altar woman. Genie is the sort of woman who denies the existence of charcoal black skin Nigerians straight-facedly in the 21 st century era of technology, along with many other foolish things. You should not be allowed to continue until you apologize to the millions of charcoal black Nigerians like Obaderemi for denying their existence.

Judge yourself from your speech if the manner and tone with which you are writing is one in which an enlightened and reasonable person should write.

***** I know I displayed some form of bigotry in opinions times back and if you were here when I re-joined this thread, I apologized for those. I also made it clear that this was the reason I left nairaland as a whole for more than 14 months.

However, can you please show me one statement I made where I denied the existence of dark skinned Nigerians? Failure for you to do that should be a shame to you, showing how you try to force words into people's mouth in an utter display of behaviours which reeks childishness and absurdity.

>>>>> If I can remember clearly from the past, all I asserted were facts that Nigerians dress better than Kenyans and Nigerians have more light-skinned people than Kenyans and yeah! the fact that what Kenyans deem as normal dark skinned people were regarded as extremely dark skinned people here in Nigeria.
Hell yeah, I still stand by these words. Just that I may no longer be interested in highlighting these points anymore cos they may make me tow a path of seemingly bigoted expressions which I do not wish to embark on. Thanks

Kur17:


What about Kpaduma, Mpape, Durumi, Koroduma, Bassa etc or those are not slums to your standards??

Observably, most Abuja slums are usually developed around mosques or prayer grounds, where Muslim faithful huddle after prayers daily. Over time, a cluster of people is formed from the worshippers and sellers of food and locally made drinks like zobo, kunnu, fura de nunu and the likes.

You mentioned Durumi? Mpape and others? Durumi is where I used to live in Abuja.

***** Kindly look at the pictures below showing houses for rent in Durumi & Mpape.

(sighs) God, how do I explain these things to you guys to understand? Ok let me start somewhere for you Kikuyu1 and NairobiWalker who have quoted me on slum topics.

¤¤¤ A slum is supposed to be a community with a heart of it's own just like Makoko or Kibera. A slum is supposed to have it's own schools, government representative centres, polling units, possibly health centres e.t.c in other words, a life of it's own.

This is what you cannot find in Nigeria apart from Makoko. You Kenyans just find it hard to believe.

Perhaps because you think our country should definitely be like yours (pls I do not mean this in a demeaning manner). What I meant was that, you guys expect your housing systems and that of ours to be the same. But it is not. We do not have the same housing systems.

•••••••• In most urban parts of Nigeria, the rich, the middleclass and the poor sometimes live together in the same suburb. People can buy lands almost in any part of the city and develop it to taste, that is why you can find beautiful mansions and gated houses in predominantly low income areas with parts which may pass for a slum.
So, let's say in Mpape suburb, there are neighbourhoods which can pass as a slum, in same Mpape, you'll find more beautiful middleclass estates and houses as you can see from the picture below.
So, in the real sense, those slummish neighbourhoods are not the definition of what Mpape is. They are just an illegal section of Mpape which managed to develop in a short time evading the attention of the environmental authorities. However, they cannot evade the environmental authorities for so long , so they get demolished in a very short time (search google for demolition in Mpape and see for yourself).

***** This is why when you guys mention any Nigerian suburb which you think is a full blown slum, we will show you guys beautiful houses and estates from that same place.
The only place we cannot do that for is Makoko! This is because Makoko is what it is! A full blown slum. A community with a heart of it's own. Lagos state govt has tried to demolish Makoko, but it failed because how do you just destroy an entire community with over a hundred thousand people?
¿¿¿ However, google demolitions in Abuja and see a whole lot of developing slummish neighbourhoods being demolished year in year out... Our former FCT minister who is now the governor of Kaduna state (El Rufai), his nick name is MAI RUSAU (which roughly translates DEMOLITION MAN in hausa language ). The name was given to him because of the way he demolished every springing illegal settlement of Abuja while he was the minister of the city.

****** So, here is the new! The illegal house builders are now moving to the village settlements of the indigenous natives of Abuja city who were resettled outside Abuja. This is because they know that the government cannot easily go and destroy the villages of these natives.
So, yes, FCT (and not Abuja) may start having slums in the future if the government doesn't start invading these indigenous villages cos this was exactly how Makoko evolved, from an indigenous fishing village.

NairobiWalker:


Thank you. The good looking part is all I quoted you about and you've confirmed it. Your sister genieluv and her sister Nowenuse can't just stop insisting Kenyans are ugly despite the fact that they've never been to Kenya.

You see why I called you an obnoxious person? Can you show me one sentence where I called Kenyans ugly?

***** I only said that I find Tanzanians more charming than Kenyans. And this is definitely due to the dozens and dozens of East Africans I see on television.

I watch a lot of East African music and sometimes tune into East African dramas. I have seen quite many east Africans at least for me to have an opinion.

>>>> All black women are beautiful !
There is a big difference between charming and beautiful.
Being charming comes down to a likeable, attractive and fascinating personality while being beautiful just boils down to mostly facial appearance....

ΔΔΔ naijalander, I am not talking about ladies alone. Hey, I am a lady and look out mostly for the guys For instance, not until I came across a new Kenyan singer called THE BEN, I had never found any Kenyan male musician so attractive. But in Tanzania? In Congo? OMG I find their men so charming with an extremely unique fashion sense.
I hope you get my point.

naijalander:


genieluv & Nowenuse for the gazillionth time! Stop disgracing us, you sound ignorant every time you call Kenyan women ugly or black, they are far far from it, they are very fine women like Naija women.

forgiveness:


There is according to all the informations on ground. It's now left for me to personally see it and confirm it.

Why would I want cheap glory if it doesn't exist? Most of Nigeria's Skyscrappers have limited pictures and you hardly know their names.

Even at that, if I remove the it from the list, Lagos still has more skyscrapers than the whole of Kenya. That is the fact on ground.

It's very true. Nigerian buildings, streets and aerial views tend to have very limited pictures online.
**** For instance there are very beautiful parts of Kaduna and Jos that I would like to have posted here, but one just can't find them online.

>>> It seems like Kenyan cities and buildings have more pictoral views than Nigeria's, perhaps for tourist reasons.

ednited:



Yes, too much argument is taking place here now.

Am happy for you (your job)!!


Ethiopia is doing fine. Today was national culture day and Addis Ababa was the host this year.
Abiy Ahmed is our saviour but we can't be sure if we are still safe. . . I think he is famous in Africa now. Almost every African know him

How are things over there??

Things are good my dear. Just that the political scene is getting heated.
**** Our elections are just in 2 months time

Wow, how is the national culture day celebrated? Can you tell me more about it? Any videos or links?

Why do you say you can't be sure if you're still safe in ET? Since Abiy ascended power, there has been a lot of news about him all over.

++++ We all saw the tears and emotions all over when friends and relatives from Ethiopia and Eritrea were united. How has the re-unity been? Do you have any family members across the divide?

NairobiWalker:


There's no single insult in my response to you, if there's, show me and I'll apologize. You're playing diverging tactics by lying I've insulted you everytime I debunk your lies.

If you don't want me to quote you don't quote me, simple.

Calling someone a hypocrite is insulting.
Your tone is an insultive and angry one.
Judge yourself. Do the both of us write in the same tone? I write in a friendlier and meek tone.
Tone down your harsh words.

kikuyu1:


I mentioned the many Abuja slums a few pages back:here are the pics.

Dutse and Abasokoro. We don't hide our Kibera!

With all due respect. The first picture clearly is not Abuja. That is Makoko, the only full blown slum in Nigeria on waters.
***** Abuja is not a riverine terrain, so it's impossible to have such an area in Abuja.

>>> As for the 2nd picture, you will have to give us an aerial view of the place to prove to us that it is a full blown slum.
I live in Abuja and there is no where known as Abasokoro. I had to do a google for it and google itself does not recognise that as a place. Instead it referred me to Asokoro (one of the richest neighbourhoods of Nigeria, where the federal govt house is situated).

NairobiWalker:
Wow! How did this pass me? Okay...let's see



I don't like your hypocritical tone either so I guess we are even. Maybe if you stopped being such a hypocrite, we can have a meaningful discussion.

Pass

Just stop being a hypocrite and nobody will call you one. Thank you.

Thank you for noting that


I am not even talking about what was said a year ago, the bigotry is on every page of this thread.


Your bigotry can't see it, that's why.
- Kenyans have accepted we have a slum problem, something that most Nigerians deny including you even though looking at your cities the problem is clearly even bigger than Kenya's.

- Kenyans have accepted that our government is corrupt and tribalistic.



Please, just stop - the average neighborhood in Nigeria is nothing close to the favelas that have good road networks and water. The average Nigerian city is a dump. Look at Ibadan, Kano, Abeokuta, Ogbomosho, Onitsha etc. Even your jewel Abuja that you keep throwing in people's faces that it has no slum, Kikuyu just posted you pictures of Abuja slums that are nothing different from Kibera.

1. I don't even understand your obsession with skin tone

2. Even with media, Nigerians have never been known to be light skinned, African countries that are known to be light skinned are of course the Horn Countries, Sudan, Chad, Madagascar and Botswana. If those Osofias and John Okafors we see on Nollywood are light skinned then you definitely have a very interesting definition of light skinned. In fact, almost every Nigerian celebrity who's light skinned is either mixed race or highly bleached slay queen.

Bull.s.hit like this is what makes me call you the biggest hypocrite on this thread. Have you been to Kenya? Have you been to Tanzania? So what makes you think you can make these generalized opinions on this countries? You're brttet groomed than us? Where do you even get this nonsense? There's a Nigerian on this thread called Naijalander who lives in Kenya - he's as pro-Nigeria as it comes yet has told you severally how he finds Kenyan ladies better looking but you in your Nigerian cocoon think you know so much how Kenyans dress. How many Tanzanians have you interacted with on a personal level to make those stupid statements?


So apparently you're comparing Kenya and Nigeria to East and West Europe where Kenya represents Western Europe in bad looks and Nigeria represents Eastern Europe in good looks huh? Why don't you do the same with their respective living standards?

FYI people who make those comparisons have lived in both countries and have seen with their own eyes hence they can make those opinions, back to you, how many years have you lived in Kenya?

hypocrite.

Pls do well not to quote me again because your words are so full of anger and hate.
I do not want to put myself in a position to exchange insultive words with you. I wasn't brought up that way
****You and I can only have a conversation when you learn how to respond in a more polite tone.

Nowenuse:


Hahahaha. I pity you thinking you could have any reasonable conversations with Kenyans here on a mature and civilized tone. Especially people like NairobiWalker? What were you thinking? I've tried that before and it failed.
You suppose samar am give them as e dey hot.

Sanu da kokari

Whatever.
He is just an obnoxious person who replies someone not for the need of a good conversation to learn from each other, but for the sake of insults and harsh words.
I can't handle such toxicity.
You guys are used to insulting each other and it's a pity.

>>>> I wish this thread should be one of mutual understanding, enlightenment and cultural exchange among each other.

gallivant:


Lol

Cry us a river. Nigerian men are little girls. When they are not crying they're talking about dresses(fashion). You are pathetic specimens, just call the South African girl for help already and stop making noise.

Male fashion designers are some of the richest men in the world. Fashion is very very much part of men's culture.
***** No lady likes a man without a good dress sense

tlann:
iam surprised how she is quick to pinpoint kenyans lying while she has not yet noticed the 688 guy lying to us about 1million houses nigerian government builds every year

Nigerian federal govt does not build houses to best of my knowledge. Who made those claims?

Kazikazi:
Tanzania.Just a part of Dar es salaam

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