₦airaland Forum

Sirjamo:
Has he finish training Christian children?

The kind of poverty that's in the middle belt, especially southern Kaduna where kukah comes from cannot be eradicated in a hurry, why can't he go and help his own people first before helping others if there's no christianization motive?

Every Southern Kaduna child goes to school and has access to education. Does every Hausa-fulani child go to school?
Hausa fulanis are poorer than any other group of people in Nigeria, so they need more help.

abbeg:
Happy new year everyone! from Architect forgiveness,obaderemi, Ibrahimanis, genieluv and bantudra in west Africa, Nairobiwalker ,tlann ,mtisthequibit,gallivant, rvp2018 and Liebuster kazikazi in east africa down to lionezz and tmksouth all the way down south and everyone in between,I wish you a happy 2019! Let the battle continue!

Wishing you the same my dear

ednited:
Yes, it is Nigerian flag. The reason why I posted is because it says

Eagle apartment
Residential building of Embassy of Nigeria

That is your building not ours

ET houses are not like this. This one is really different.
I attend in unity university

Well, it's surprising because we don't have such houses in Nigeria.

**** Why don't you post pics of Ethiopian houses, streets and suburbs?

Nowenuse:
Pretty ladies. Idoma girls are really cute, but I think Tiv ladies are prettier Say hi to your Miss Benue

Lol That lady was just selected to represent Benue in the MBGN pageant. She never won any pageant in Benue.
**** Besides, Even Tiv ladies will disagree with you and tell you that Idomas are prettier

Kazikazi:
Yes peso is a Portuguese word which means money.also portuguese uses the word pesa for something like counting or weight. As you know,about 5% of Swahili words are Portuguese.Let's not forget that the Portuguese came into east African coasts,Hindi, the Arabs,German and English speakers also came.So Swahili borrowed words from all those foreigners.

Here is example of these borrowed vocabs

Swahili word. Meaning in English. Borrowed from

Jamhuri. Republic. Arabic.
Sabuni. Soap. Arabic
Dua. Prayer. Arabic
Salam . Greetings. Arabic

Sukar . Sugar. German
Shule. School. German

Laki. 100,000. Hindi
Dobi. Launder. Hindi
Pesa. . Money. Hindi

Meza. Table. Portuguese
Sigara. Cigarette. Portuguese
Limau. Lemon. Portuguese
Papa. Pope. Portuguese

Then we have borrowed from English..e.g.
Hospital,radio,station,wire,plastic, etc.

Those are few words which I can remember. But you can google for yourself.

There are many more dozen arabic words in swahili. How do I know? I have seen so many of them cos of Arabic words in Hausa language

Hatari (accident)
Duniya (life or world) in swahili, Arabic & Hausa

Other words I've forgotten now.

t1ann:
Yes we have property taxes
Kenya was not blessed like nigeria with oil wealth
So we must pay tax for development we have to dig our pockets

Don't say that, you guys have awesome wildlife which we can only dream of in Nigeria. You guys have some other minerals and have also discovered oil in Turkana.
Oil is a curse to Nigeria

***** Can you enlighten me how this property tax works? Is there a body that evaluates the cost of a house and determines how much the owner should pay to the govt? Or the tax amount is fixed for every house?

~~~~I would love property tax law to be promulgated in Nigeria, but it should be a progressive tax system. Propositions have been made, but it is not taken seriously. .... My only fear is that this may increase housing costs drastically which will go back to affecting the poor.

obaaderemi:
Not only that. The animals raped daughters in front of their fathers and brothers.
http://sahanjournal.com/indian-kenya-feels-like-abusive-lover/

I'm speechless after reading this.

t1ann:
If you don't know something please ask
Not coming up with your inventions
At no time in our history did kenyans attack indians and loot they property
Refrain from making stupid accusations
attacking of indians and looting of they property happened in uganda

Read the link above. I was asking a question and not making an assertion. Didn't u see the question mark in my sentence?

obaaderemi:
You can never outcompete Indians. You gave up a long time ago. The only competition you gave them was when you attacked them and looted their shops in 1982.

Black Kenyans actually attacked and looted the Indians in the past? Do you have a link pls?

Nowenuse:
NairobiWalker is an irredeemable idiot who shamelessly argues for the sake of it.

genieluv showed him and other Kenyans the 3 bedroom apartment she lives in Abuja and how it costs 25k ($70) per month, they said she was lying. She showed them this picture below from an online source of a nice house in Abuja that cost 29k ($80) per month, then reasonable Kenyans like mtisTheQubit & t1ann accepted the truth, kept quiet and agreed, but the shameless NairobiWalker kept on foaming his mouth saying unreasonable things.

I mean, how helpless can the condition of a human beign be that you are shown true facts korokoro but yet you still argue and say rubbish? This was exactly the same thing he did early this year when I splattered his shameless self with online adverts of Nigerian houses and how cheap they were compared to Kenyan houses. He then shamelessly began to say that the Nigerian online house adverts were fake


Read this news report below directly from Kenya on how a man who lives in Nairobi laments on how he pays 10k shillings (35,000 naira) monthly for a one room apartment without ventilation (in those overcrowded concentration camp houses )

http://www.ghafla.com/crisis-how-housing-in-nairobi-has-become-a-nightmare-for-millions-of-city-dwellers/

People like KiberaWalker aka NairobiWalker live in slums like Kibera and have no idea how Kenya's middle class suffer poor housing.

Kenyans seriously need to fix that overpriced expensive slum riddled city they call Nairobi.

For God's sake how can someone get a decent 3 bedroom apartment in Nigerian cities for 25k naira ($69) monthly, but in Kenya one pays 35k naira ($100) monthly for a cubicle size 1 bedroom apartment without ventilation in a concentration camp house with thousands of tenants? God forbid ! Kenyans work and live to pay house rents with their salaries. Why won't millions of Kenyans live in the world's largest slums?

Cc genieluv2

Edited : Omg! @Daejoyoung
I re-read the link and now noticed that the house the Kenyan was complaining about in that link wasn't even a room and parlour (1 bedroom apartment) as I thought, it was a freakinng bedsitter (single room).... I really give up on Kenyans. I now pity them infact.



My brother, I just don't understand why a freaking developing nation should have such expensive houses. My friends who stay in Ghana lament how house rent finishes every money they get. ... It's just a pity
There are also very expensive houses in Abuja and Lagos, but the good thing about Nigerian cities is that there is always a decent neighbourhood to suit every pocket size in that same city you live in. Not everyone pays outrageous house rents. Infact majority of Nigerians do not.

I wish I could re-like this comment of yours

I am trying to understand Kenya's tax system. Maybe houses are more expensive in Kenya because they pay property tax or other higher taxes. Cos that is the way it is in Ghana. Ghanaians pay property tax according to what I heard.
@mtisTheQubit & t1ann, do you guys pay property tax in Kenya?

**** There are also expensive houses in Nigeria. In parts of Abuja and Lagos, a 3 bedroom apartment can go for as high as $300 per month or even far more. It all depends on where you want to say. That's the beauty of Nigeria. And because people are allowed to buy lands almost anywhere in a city and build, you can easily get a new decent house at an affordable price because competition is so much and this causes many to force their prices down in especially newer suburbs.

ednited:
@genieluv and other Nigerians

Check this out

I took this pic in the afternoon, which is few meter away from my campus.

The apartments look great but doesn't seem fit for residential purpose

Aww, it looks nice. Wait, is that a Nigerian flag on that board?

**** What university do you attend?
Are houses in ET styled that way? It looks unique. I'd like to see more of Ethiopian streets, houses e.t.c

jaycent:
I laugh at this Kenyansh wen they said they don't watch our Nigeran movie? Just take a good look at this They even know their names and this foolish Kenyansh are here fooling their selves

Hahahaha, @NairobiWalker and mtisTheQubit00

I guess you can see why IrokoTV is gonna make millions of dollars from Kenya?

rvp20183:
Cheap is expensive.The solution is not turn entire cities into slums.its for gov to invest in cheap social housing.We are trying 0.5m that will house 2 to 3m.

The only slummish parts you see in Nigerian cities are mostly old houses of indigenous peoples. People do not build new slum houses in Nigeria.

**** Cheap social housing ends up looking like a disaster if not properly maintained.

Nowenuse:
Yes genieluv, I already had a debate with NairobiWalker on the cheapness of Nigerian houses compared to Kenyan houses and I gave him a good ol whoopinh on that , then they started giving excuses on how houses and life is generally expensive in Kenya because Kenya is better advanced than Nigeria.

I then showed them purchasing power parity and nominal per capital figures which showed that life in Malaysia is cheaper than that of Kenya, and can you believe that these idiots went as far as comparing Kenya to Malaysia just to excuse the expensiveness of life in their country?

Can you pls link me to that debate so that I can see for myself?

Please refrain from using direct insulting words.

ednited:
The way we pray

The way we sing

The way we dress

The way we connect to God is very different

The Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahdo church is the one which brought a big civilization in Ethiopia. We use our own Bible, with our own language. We have our own singing system which has been designed by the Ethiopian Saint Yared. We have our own Architecture too. The world haven't understood much about this religion. There are many secrets in the church.

Even I have heard some people say that 'ETHIOPIA' is not a Greek meaning but an Ethiopian. . .and it's meaning is secretly kept in the church.Today, the reason why Ethiopia has her own new year is because of this church too.

I feel very happy and proud to be a member of this religion and I want to dedicate myself on this. I want to work in the church when I get old.

Interesting. It's good to develop one's own unique cultures and systems in my opinion.

**** Do Tigrays, Amharas, Oromos and others share exactly the same Ethiopian orthodox church, practices, liturgical language and leadership?
Do you guys have a superior leader like the 'Pope'?
Are Eritrean christians under the leadership of the Ethiopian orthodox?

NairobiWalker:
You've wrongfully called me a liar here and I didn't cry about it. You've called Kenyans ugly, you've called Kenyans starving and we didn't cry about it - stop being hypocritical and a crybaby at the same time.


Food stores with windows? Don't you have silos in Nigeria? Stop being irrational. In that case 90% of housing in Nigerian cities is used for storing food because that's what 90% of your housing looks like.


1. The picture you posted is not of Umoja. Here is what Umoja looks like - this is the reason I keep reminding you to avoiding talking about things you don't understand.

[img]https://www.the-star.co.ke/sites/default/files/styles/new_full_content/public/465760.jpg?itok=u-RsZWZn[/img]

2. The houses I posted are worse than the Kenyan houses you posted. Even a madman can see that. The only 'bad' thing about those apartments is crowding which isn't a bad deal especially if you've visited top global cities like Hong Kong, Singapore and Tokyo that moving from sparse housing to high density Housing. Inside those houses are well furnished modern apartments. Here is a typical Kitchen from those pipeline house. Meanwhile your Nigerian dumps look poorly maintained and old, you can't convince anyone they look like this from the inside.

[img]https://apollo-ireland.akamaized.net/v1/files/narsgrmv0gc71-KE/image;s=850x0[/img]

https://image.kebuysell.com/00/01/11/54/01/1115401_b_b3fa4cedd2b886dd2560969aa87d5f68.jpg


Once again I would rather live in those Kenyan houses than these dumpsites
[img]https://2.bp..com/-UUL9Dp6l-XY/Vp3K4ZtSiiI/AAAAAAAAAcc/ZGwbEHI4ktk/w1200-h630-p-k-no-nu/Ibadan-city.jpg[/img]
https://sunnewsonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/ibadan-community.jpg
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2012/04/15/world/africa/population/population-jumbo.jpg

Of all Africans, a Nigerian should be the last person to speak about overcrowding.

Photos of the inderior of houses in Pipeline Estate, Nairobi.

Why don't we do a contest? Show pictures of Kenyan houses and their cheapest rent costs while I show Nigerian houses and their cheapest rent costs, let us see which country offers better houses and neighbourhoods for the cheapest costs. Are you in?

**** I think this will once and for all settle the argument of housing.

mtisTheQubit00:
we are just not interested...Thats why you dont see Kenyans free to your country..You country is poorly organised

Well, you guys keep on playing local while Nigerian businesses spread their tentacles all over the continent. Your loss.

***** Besides, you avoided my question. Are there Kenyan companies in Ghana, Ivory coast and other west African countries?

mtisTheQubit00:
Funny Nigerians love ths apartments ..wonder why

Would they rather have lived in slums?
I don't think someone like myself can live in Kenya, unless I have a very high paying job, due to the expensive cost of Kenyan houses.
***** Apparently, a one bedroom apartment in Umoja costs $150 per month.
Look at this picture from my current neighbourhood, the house you see on the opposite goes for $69 per month for a 3 bedroom apartment. Can I get such in any Kenyan city?
For someone like me who earns $400 a month, do you expect me to pay $150 for a single bedroom in such overcrowded houses in Umoja? But now I spend only $34 for rent per month in a decent house as you see opposite because I have a housemate and we split the rent bill.
>>>>> Nigeria is far far cheaper than Kenya. The lowest I saw for any Kenyan 3 bedroom apartment online was 30k shillings ($245) per month

NairobiWalker:
Madam hypocrisy, stop talking about things you don't understand for once and stop being a hypocrite for once.

...........and which are these nice Nigerian houses you keep talking about? Apart from the mansions that belong to one percenters all I see in Nigerian cities are these. If these are the houses that are better than those you speak of in Nairobi then I pity you.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/2SL7YkA9MCg/hqdefault.jpg
[img]https://static1.squarespace.com/static/558316f2e4b0e6cabb046c82/t/56b706c02eeb8170481eed07/1454835426913/Lagos+tenements.jpg[/img]
[img]https://2.bp..com/-UUL9Dp6l-XY/Vp3K4ZtSiiI/AAAAAAAAAcc/ZGwbEHI4ktk/w1200-h630-p-k-no-nu/Ibadan-city.jpg[/img]
[img]https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/1200/1*vsrPavrtgMTx0mAdHib7oQ.jpeg[/img]

I would rather live in Pipeline Estate 100 times that in these Nigerian pieces of crap. No wonder Nigerian men find our pipeline Estate so good they can't waste money living in a single room alone.

Pathetic (smh).
If you can't stop name calling, please don't quote me. I don't have the luxury to culture you on appropriate behaviour. You can go ahead and engage other Nigerians who will dignify your insults with insultive responses in return.

***** Look at someone like mtisTheQubit00 and see how he replies me without any word of insult and we make our points to each other. That's maturity.

I cannot fight with a mad man cos I will automatically be seen as a mad person like him.

NairobiWalker:
Nobody watches Iroko TV here.

Iroko tv would not have been making numerous employments in Kenya had no one been interested. So, speak for yourself. So many Kenyans enjoy west African movies and they are active subscribers of Iroko Tv.

Read below

https://techmoran.com/2017/12/08/irokotv-launches-its-offline-kiosks-in-kenya-in-a-pan-african-expansion-drive/amp/

gallivant:
How do you know that? A guess? That's very offensive considering a few pages ago you didn't even know about orthodox Christians. You ask very dumb questions pretending to know what you are talking about.

Pls do not quote me on this. Respect yourself, I am not speaking with you or directing my questions to you in any way. Let the person I am speaking with respond to me, thank you.

NairobiWalker:
Calling you on your hypocrisy is not name calling, it's your hypocrisy that's childish and pleas, these houses are not markets. It's just that Nigerians are too disorganized you sell stuff right where you live otherwise you'll have to be sick to thick somebody will believe that they sell fish in these houses.Your excuses are always lame.
www.nairaland.com/attachments/8391194_populationjumbo_jpeg35852b632aac21d8d0546ff22df79e66

Most of you Kenyans here argue stupidly, but that does not give me the right to say you guys are stupid. That's not what cultured and well-mannered people do. So, you can leave me to my so called 'hypocrisy'. Never use direct insultive words on someone. Have you been on foreign fora like Quora, Reddit etc? Do you see people calling each other names over there?

>>>> Stop arguing what you do not know. Most of those houses upstairs are used for storing goods which are sold at the floor level, that's the way it's being done in some Nigerian markets.

***** Besides, let's assume people even live upstairs, do you see as much chaotic occupation upstairs as you see in Umoja or those mass houses in Nairobi? If you look carefully you can see that those upstairs houses are apartment styled, they are like 3 bedroom apartments and you have less than a dozen of them in one building.

These mass kenyan houses have many dozens of appartments and possibly hundreds to thousands of occupants. You yourself make the comparisons.

tylann:
Nakumatt is handicapped right now
Tuskys and other Kenyan brands are in Uganda tz Rwanda Somalia south Sudan and DRC
We cant go all the way to nigeria when you lack basic electricity
Kenya airways is reprensting us anyway

We lack basic electricity yet South African companies are raking in millions of dollars annually? Stop giving excuses for your being local.

***** Even if we assume that Nigeria is at fault, what about other parts of West Africa? Are there Kenyan companies in Ivory coast, Senegal, Ghana, Gambia, Liberia or even Cameroon?

mtisTheQubit00:
i have a friend of mine who got TV streaming stuff an i dont count his network as worth of being called a tv station..

Anyway our companies are all over east africa as far as congo..But serious you guys are a colony of South Africa an it fair to let them plunder their territory as they widh....

Tv streaming stuff is not the same with having a television station, go and read up IrokoTV.

------Stop being a local/regional champion, are you guys scared of West Africa (the largest economy and most populated region of Africa)?

mtisTheQubit00:
in a way they represent you out there..when ya step out carrying that green thingy you will realize how ths guys have messed naija image

I have been to Israel, Senegal, China and France. My mother works with the Nigerian embassy abroad. She goes for vacations in a new country every year and either I or my sibblings accompany her.

***** Nigerian image is messed because of the drug smugglers and fraudsters in advanced nations and not the likes of Kenya.

Nowenuse:
Wrong. These houses cost as much #600,000 ($1,750) per annum. Can you imagine? You just have to wonder how people breathe in these kind of houses without sufficient ventilation.
This is why most Kenyans have red eyes and the likes of NairobiWalker and other Kenyans are very insultive and bitter. Can someone live in this kind of house and still be happy and mentally stable? Hell no!

Imagine thousands of people living in one building.

This is just so sad and terrible. Life in Kenya is generally more expensive than Nigeria.

***** I really don't understand why a developing nation like Kenya should be so expensive.

Why won't Kenyan slums grow bigger when houses that are supposed to be cheap for low income earners are even expensive themselves.

tylann:
They live 10 per room you see nothing wrong with that
And they are criminals that is why they are arrested and deported and unlucky ones eat the bullet and the Nigerian govt can do nothing about it
Kenya housing system is better than Nigeria where you build a mansion next to a slum and you end calling that place slumish
In kenya a slum is a slum
Lower income area like the one the picture
Upper income area like buruburu
Then rich estates like runda and kitusuru
Not building a mansion next to a slum then calling it slummish

They have their reasons for living 10 per room in Kenya, because such never happens in Nigeria. Your houses are too expensive perhaps seeing that a room and parlour in those mass houses cost as much $150 per month In Nigeria, you can find a room & parlour self contain in a better house for $50 per month.

****** People building nice houses close to slummish areas gradually converts that slummish area to a better place with time. That is why we don't have full blown slum communities in Nigeria unlike Kenya.

Kenya wouldn't have topped the world lists of biggest and most numerous slums if you had operated Nigeria's system.

mtisTheQubit00:
Now ya just confusing me ..is Nigeria not a federation or not

Nigeria is a federation, but not a federation of states like the USA. The center (Abuja) has absolute power, but our states are gradually getting more powerful (not really by new legislations, but by deciding to struggle it out with the center). It is a unitary govt because everyone is answerable to Abuja.

***** It wasn't this way in the past.

mtisTheQubit00:
what is Iroko tv seriously

https://techmoran.com/2017/12/08/irokotv-launches-its-offline-kiosks-in-kenya-in-a-pan-african-expansion-drive/amp/

It is a African movie tv network with about 3 channels. 2 of them air only Nigerian movies while one of them Ghanaian movies.

***** Here are they offering employment to Kenyans

https://www.myjobmag.co.ke/jobs-at/irokotv

~~~ I've never heard of any Kenyan company in Nigeria, I would truly love to see Kenyan companies come for the huge Nigerian market.

Why don't your big malls like Nakumatt, Tuskys etc try the Nigerian market? They'll make a killing.

NairobiWalker:
Her Hypocrisy the Queen, yet you were justifying Nigerians living in this crap below? Wow, you just hit a new low..............FYI, your Nigerian brothers crowd in those houses so much we often wonder what poor people live like over there if your better off can come here and be comfortable living like that. Of all Africans, it is a Nigerian who's pretending to never be able to survive overcrowding. Lord have mercy.

If you cannot respond to a comment without name calling and utter childishness, I cannot dignify you with a response.

**** Just for the records, the last picture is a market, people trade there but do not live, sleep and wake up there.... Mpape having jampacked houses is not synonymous with thousands of people living in one building.

tylann:
Your are an ignorant woman
Those places are not overcrowded and that is where your Nigerian brothers live ten per room now living ten per room is overcrowding
And in kenya rent is paid monthly not per annum

What is my business if Nigerians in Kenya live in such overcrowded houses? It's the Kenyan housing system because Nigeria does not have such mass housing, where thousands of people live in one building.

Ibrahimanis:
Access Bank Group: Burundi, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Ghana, Rwanda, the Gambia, Sierra Leone, Zambia.

First Bank of Nigeria: South Africa, Ghana, Sierra Leone, DRC, Guinea, Senegal.

Zenith Bank: Ghana, South Africa, Sierra Leone.

UBA: Benin, Burkina Faso, Cameroon, Chad, Congo brazzavile, Cote d'ivoir, DRC, Gabon, Guinea, Ghana, Kenya, Liberia, Mali, Mozambique, Senegal, Sierra Leone, Tanzania, Ugandan, Zambia.

GT Bank: Cote d'Ivoire, Kenya, Liberia, Gambia, Ghana, Nigeria, Rwanda, Tanzania, Uganda.

Globacom: Ghana, Benin, Cote d'ivoire.

Aiteo group: Morroco, Algeria, Angola, Niger, Gabon, Ghana, DRC.

Dangote Group: Benin, Cameroon, Ghana, South Africa and Zambia.

Oando plc: Ghana, Togo, Benin Republic.

Interswitch: Kenya, Uganda, Ghana.

Sahara Group: Ghana, Cote d'ivoire, Tanzania, Zambia, Guinea.

Irokotv: Kenya, Ghana.

Let's even leave Jumia out of this. This did not take 10mins. Then imagine if I should spend more time looking for Nigerian companies in Africa.

Dangote is in Tanzania and Iroko tv is in Kenya too.