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Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 9:13am On Dec 13, 2018
NairobiWalker:


They keep on accusing other Africans of being slaves to the white man yet they're the biggest slaves. There lingua Franca is a white man's language. grin Hypocrites. grin

Same way your lingua franca is heavily influenced by Arabic.
***** Swahili would never have existed without Arab contact.
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 9:11am On Dec 13, 2018
NairobiWalker:

Which bubble did you burst? grin stop feeling too important, I said Woodley is part of Kibera constituency and I still maintain it. So what bubble have you burst? grin

Woodkey is part of Kibera
Olympic is part of Kibera
Ngumo is part of Kibera
Ayany is part of Kibera

All those places range from fairly nice lower middle class to expensive Upper Middle class. Do you now know Nairobi more than me? For the record I used to live in Woodley. My cousin stays in Ngumo.

Bla bla bla grin These places are part of Kibera constituency, but they are not part of Kibera slum community, or has every single community become a constituency in Kenya?

**** Even google maps clearly differentiate these places for what they are.
You can only tell me that Silanga is part of Kibera, hence it's written in small letters, unlike the others that are so unique from Kibera.

Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 9:05am On Dec 13, 2018
tlann:
we don't need dangote he can invest his money in tz not Kenya we don't need him

So, you Kenyans prefer a white man to invest in your country over a fellow Black African?
••••• This thread must have gotten deep into you guys.
I will prefer a Kenyan to invest in my country over a white man.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 9:01am On Dec 13, 2018
Jonraid:
And 55 years is what the majority of you want to live ? Well, thank you! Poverty is the number one causation of your low life expectancy!

Don't be shallow. USA, the richest country in the world is heavily surpassed by many countries in life expectancy.
**** Does that make the USA poor?
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 8:59am On Dec 13, 2018
darfay:




They have nollywood
Yes u heard right

Hahaha, NairobiWalker, you can see that it's your Kenyan women who are more fascinated by Nigerian men.

***** To be honest, Nigerian women are not really fascinated by other African men. If a Nigerian lady does not marry a Nigerian, we go for whites.
Hardly will you see a Nigerian lady with a Cameroonian, Kenyan or South African man. Even Ghanaian is difficult.

>>>> Nigerian women have noticed that no other African men work so hard and spend so much money on them like Nigerian men. Other African men also seem very local before our eyes. To be sincere, we tend to be materialistic. (mind you, I do not really approve of this mentality. I personally find other African men attractive because I'm more open-minded, but as for marriage, hmm I doubt I could marry another African undecided. No African identity is worth trading for my Nigerian identity).

Just for the records, the culture of materialism started from southern Nigeria. Hausa fulani educated women are also very materialistic.
***** We central Nigerian women are the least materialistic of all. Materialism was zero in our cultures.
This even makes Southern guys judge our wome as being very cheap embarassed
~~However, this is now gradually being destroyed as our own women intermix with southern & hausa fulani women.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 8:46am On Dec 13, 2018
NairobiWalker:


I think Nigerians are unable to grow their own language they have to steal a foreign language. Too sad for a country of over 200M people. All countries with over 100M people have their native language.

We have native languages and some of our native languages are the most spoken in Africa !
**** Hausa already has more speakers than Swahili, it is only yet to gain official status in papers because of tribalism in Nigeria, Ghana, Cameroon and Niger republic.

Besides, we grew our own language from English, just as French and Spanish grew theirs from Latin.
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 8:36am On Dec 13, 2018
darfay:



So your mashada Abbi mushroom forum was bigger than Jami forum?

No free media,God forbid, no wonder you all ran to Tanzanian Jami forum

Good morning smiley Do you visit these forums to see what they're like? So, Jami forum a Tanzanian forum is actually the biggest in East Africa?

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 9:26pm On Dec 12, 2018
NairobiWalker:


I think Nigerians are unable to grow their own language they have to steal a foreign language. Too sad for a country of over 200M people. All countries with over 100M people have their native language.

Same way the Romans looked down on Spanish, French and Portuguese, calling them vulgar latin.
***** Today where is official Latin? Non existent! The pidgin varieties have taken over.
Native French and Iberian peoples abandoned their original native languages for vulgar latin.... Today, these languages have become world languages.

>>>>> Be careful what you wish for cos your children might end up speaking and taking pride in Naija brokin cool

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 9:23pm On Dec 12, 2018
NairobiWalker:


Okay.......give me its name then now that you don't want me to call it Mpape slum. Please give me the name of the slum I posted and I will never use Mpape slum anymore. Let's see who's being difficult for no reason.

It has no name that's why I call it the SLUMMISH PARTS OF MPAPE wink
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 9:21pm On Dec 12, 2018
Jonraid:
Swahili and pidgin shouldn't be in the same sentence!

Really? Pidgin may outcompete swahili before your very eyes. All Nigeria needs to do is make it official.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 9:19pm On Dec 12, 2018
NairobiWalker:


Swahili started spreading way before colonialism. There was trade between the interior communities and the Omani Arabs who came to the coast and the language of communication was Swahili.

Okay. Interesting.

**** Do you speak your native language very well?
*Do you guys learn your native languages in schools?
*If 2 kikuyus meet, are they most likely to speak in kikuyu, swahili or English?
*What language does the average urban Kenyan child speak with their parents at home?
Pardon my too many questions smiley
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 9:05pm On Dec 12, 2018
NairobiWalker:


Olympic is still part of Kibera. Just like you posted the nicer parts of Mpape, I can do the same for Kibera.
Same way you claimed Woodley and the other estate was part of Kibera, only for me to burst you, then you say Kibera constituency.
**** Google maps recognize Kibera for what it is and doesn't add the name of any other places to it.

.....and for heaven's sake, stop using the word slummish parts to refer to Nigerian slums. Those are slums, nothing like slummish parts. [\quote]
Those are slums, ok, what are the names of these slums? Mpape, Mabushi, Durumi? Smh. Even kindergarten children would be tired already if they were following this thread

[quote] I already told you not all Kenyan slums are built from iron sheets just like not all Nigerian slums are built from concrete. However, overall when I look on Google maps, Nigerian cities have larger slum areas than Kenyan cities. Furthermore outside Nairobi all slums you'll get are of concrete houses. Only Nairobi has some iron sheet houses. In Nigeria however iron sheet slums are spread in numerous cities

People do not live in iron sheet houses in Nigeria.
Don't try to compare the situation of Kenya and Nigeria.

**** Don't just show the pictures of abandoned iron sheet structures in a dumpsite. Show an aerial view of dozens of houses (a complete neighborhood) with zinc houses.

Tell me anything glorious about these Nigerian guys lives. Look at both pictures and tell me how their lives are any better than the lives of people in Kibera.

Open defecation is practiced all over 3rd world nations, including nations far better than Kenya, so it's nothing new.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 8:46pm On Dec 12, 2018
NairobiWalker:

What do you mean shallow? The definition of Kenyan English is deep as the definition of Nigerian English, you just replace Nigeria with Kenya.


Thank you, you now get what I was telling you about. The only difference is they're not stupid enough to declare their version of English as a separate language created by them.

Just to let you know that Google has now recognized Nigerian pidgin. BBC now broadcasts in Pidgin English with a pidgin english radio station.

***** Even Wikipedia differentiates NIGERIAN ENGLISH
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigerian_English

from NIGERIAN PIDGIN
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigerian_Pidgin

So, there is Nigerian english just like Kenyan English and there is Nigerian pidgin (Brokin) which is now recognized as a creole! This is simple knowledge of linguistics!


I'm not playing these games anymore girl. Your arguments sound petty and make no sense. Go ahead and make your Nigerian English sentences that we can't understand to strengthen your claim that Nigerian English is a separate language.

>>>> You're now getting pissed off cos the shallowness of your points have been unveiled before your very eyes.

You would have rushed to make a sentence in Kenyan english which I cannot understand, if you could. But you just can't.

•••• Shuo, see my padi don dey para na na. Oya make I comot for road make e for nor pass as e don dey. Na small tin dey make kasala burst grin

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 8:27pm On Dec 12, 2018
NairobiWalker:

aren't you the one who was going on about how Mpape slum is not fully a slum? How is that English of mine a problem and this English of yours not a problem?



Anyway, whatever girl, you focus on petty arguments to diverge from the lies you told earlier. These nomenclature this don't really matter, what matters is we've discovered there are slums in Abuja which is the darling of Nigerians. If Abuja has slums you can imagine the magnitude that Onitsha, Ibadan, Kano, Ogbomosho, Abeokuta, Port Harcourt, Lagos et al have.

I give up ! @ Bolded, so you still insist on calling Mpape a slum when a huge chunk of it is not even close?

Going by your use of English, it means we can say Kenya is a desert. Smh.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 8:22pm On Dec 12, 2018
tlann:
you don't get it Swahili started at the east African coast and spread to the hinterlands no one owns Swahili those coastal people you say own Swahili have they own languages

I see. This makes swahili a sort of pidgin language since everyone who speaks it have a different unique native language right?
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 8:20pm On Dec 12, 2018
tlann:
and what is the difference btwn Hausa and Fulani

Google will help you so much better than I can do on this smiley

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 8:20pm On Dec 12, 2018
tlann:
native people in Mombasa lamu and malindi are mijikenda people no owns Swahili it was formed by interactions btwn Arabs and bantus

Ok.
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 8:19pm On Dec 12, 2018
darfay:



Only you two states

Mama d mama

Hahaha, Oga, na so we see am o. I'm also from Delta state, so make that 3 grin

***** Well, let me break it down for you. My biological father is actually a Deltan (not close to him), but my mother and father are from Benue.
My mother's mother is from Kaduna. My mother was born and bred in Kaduna and so was I. So, we claim both Kaduna and Benue states smiley

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 11:43pm On Dec 11, 2018
darfay:



What state are you from?

Benue and Kaduna smiley
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 11:42pm On Dec 11, 2018
NairobiWalker:


There's also a slum in Nairobi called Kibera and not even all of it is a slum. Most of Nairobi is decent What then does that make you?

how is simply typing Mpape and clicking search frustrating? You're funny.


Can you even hear yourself? There is a slum called Kibera and not all of it is a slum? Gosh! Is English the problem here? Why call it a slum in the first place when not all of it is a slum?
*** It's just like saying Kenya is a desert when only parts of Kenya are arid.

••••• Use your English well.

If you are talking about Kibera constituency, talk about it. If you are talking of Kibera community (slum), talk about it. Don't use both interchangeably.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 11:35pm On Dec 11, 2018
NairobiWalker:


Safari
Mzee
Bwana
Jamaa
Ubwogable
Vindu vihot
Kujaing
Dundaing
Si
Woiye
Chille
sukuma wiki

I went through the wikipedia definition of Kenyan english and it is very very shallow. All you do is replace some english words with the native names of things in kenya.

**** Even Americans, Australians, Indians and pretty much everyone else have their own English with unique words... However, as long as you can speak english you can pretty much understand what is being said.

I can write a long sentence in Nigerian pidgin and no non speaker can make any sense out of it.
*** You on the other hand cannot make a long sentence in your Kenyan english which I cannot make sense of.
That tells you that Kenyan English is still English language just as American english is still English language. Naija brokin on the other hand is now becoming a different language.

>>>> If you doubt. Give it a try. Make a long sentence in Kenyan english which no Nigerian can understand. I dare you!
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 11:23pm On Dec 11, 2018
NairobiWalker:


They're slums too, I checked......and as much as they may not be as bad as some parts of Kibera such as Silanga and Gatwekera, they are worse than other parts of Kibera such as Olympic and definitely worse than other Kenyan slums such as Kawangware and Kangemi.

You're now telling me about better parts of Kibera whereas we clearly differentiated Kibera community and Kibera constituency for what they were.

~~~~ I just did a google map street view of Kawangware and Kangemi. True, they are not as bad as Kibera.
However, have it in mind that no Kenyan slums can match Nigerian slum parts because I discovered that most housing structures in Kenyan slums are built with Iron sheets and polythene bags while those of Nigeria are mostly well built concrete houses with a solidly dug foundation. The differences are huge.
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 11:15pm On Dec 11, 2018
NairobiWalker:


Swahili is a Bantu language, originally known as Ngozi then after borrowing heavily from Arabic became known as Swahili. The Arabs who settled at the East African coast intermarried with bantus to give forth a range of tribes depending on which Arab tribe intermarried with which Bantu tribe. These range of tribes are practically the real Swahilis if the definition of Swahili is to go by but they're very few. However, natives of the East African coast (e.g, Mijikenda, Pokomo etc in Kenya and Zaramo in Tanzania) are colloquially referred to as Swahilis by the interior people same way the Southerners call you Hausas. The reason I say there's no clear definition of Swahili is because even those 'real' Swahilis will still refer to themselves by other names such as Bajuni or Shirazi.

Now clear. Why then are some of you saying no one owns swahili when it's quite clear that some tribes actually own it?

**** Was Swahili very popular in hinterland Kenya before colonial times?
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 10:55pm On Dec 11, 2018
forgiveness:


The bolded is undiluted fact. Nigeria has so many developed areas that are even better than capitals of some African states.

All things work together for good. However, I think we need to restructure the country. Places like Jos should be raking in millions of dollars from tourism, mineral resources and weather but due to some restrictions, Jos or plateau state is not living up to it's potential.

I think when that is done, there will be competition that will spur city development.


Wow, didn't see this comment.

**** So true. During the days of Old Benue-Plateau, Jos developed so well and the governor then James Gomwalk had so much in mind and achieved much.

Benue people felt so far from the capital and seat of government, hence the need to agitate for our own state.

•••• I believe we would definitely had achieved more if we were still together.
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 10:49pm On Dec 11, 2018
NairobiWalker:


Actually, I just went to google maps and typed Mpape. How hard is that? grin

Do the same for Durumi, Mabushi and other areas you called slums in Abuja, or what's so special about Mpape that you choose it and it alone amongst all the slums you listed? Smh.
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 10:47pm On Dec 11, 2018
NairobiWalker:


It's simply a corruption of English. We have our own corruption of English (Kenyan English) but we don't put too much emphasis on it because we already have a strong national language. You guys only have English, reason why you're struggling to have your version of pidgin recognized as a separate language.

Spanish was once a corruption of Latin but it diverged into an entirely different language with time.
**** Can you list dozens of nouns and verbs in your Kenyan english which have purely non-english origin?

••••• I can list more than a hundred nouns and verbs in Nigerian pidgin which have absolutely no meaning in English language.

Simply, Ours has evolved.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 10:42pm On Dec 11, 2018
68816419:

Stop fooling your self my guy,
below is the map of Kibera slums only?

Kibera is just so huge bro, and to think that it is just only one of the numerous slums in Nairobi. So terrible.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 10:39pm On Dec 11, 2018
NairobiWalker:


Girl, I don't even know what you're arguing about. When I look on Google maps, I see a slum. When I google the name Mpape, I see slums. Who cares if there's a decent Mpape elsewhere? Who cares whether the whole of just part of Mpape is a slum? What matters, there's a slum right there in Abuja and you Nigerians have been lying to us that Abuja has no slum. grin

There's a slum in Abuja, okay, what is the name, Mpape, then I show a huge part of Mpape that is not even close to a slum, what then does that make you? Smart I guess.

***** Besides, why haven't you shown the slums called Durumi, Mabushi et al ?.....You listed many slums in Abuja.... I guess you worked so hard to find slummish looking parts but were bitterly frustrated at the fruitlesness grin

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 10:35pm On Dec 11, 2018
Jonraid:
People in Kenyan slums can't build permanent houses because it's not their land. A slum is a slum in Kenya whilst Abeokuta which should be a city looks like a one major slum!

Many parts of Abeokuta may look like a slum but they're still not slums like those of Kenya.
They're just a bunch of old tightly packed houses.
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 10:33pm On Dec 11, 2018
rvp20183:
If a neighborhood has slums - it is a slum. That is problem with Nigeria cities. There are no strict zones so entire cities end up becoming slums. Nairobi you'll find slums erected temporarily. You go to Jo'burg you'll find the same slums. You go to Capetown - there are slums. You go to Nigeria - and the entire city is SLUMMISH to use your words.

This pictures taken around Kibera - can demonstrate it.



You cannot call an entire community a slum unless of course every part of it is a slum. That would be ignorance on rampage.
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 10:29pm On Dec 11, 2018
Nowenuse:


Google the coldest temperature ever reccorded in Nigeria. It is 2.3°C.

By next week, Jos would be falling as low as 10°c. And it gets colder by January.

Jos will be much colder than Nairobi by next week.

sufferNsmiling. You are such a clown! I guess now you can keep shut after facts have embarrassed you?

**** Northern Nigeria experience colder nights than most parts of Kenya during the northern hemisphere winter periods.
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 10:23pm On Dec 11, 2018
gallivant:


Will you quit with the silly questions? Swahilis are too few to dominate anywhere. Use your common sense lady.

How is my question silly?
**** Aren't swahilis the dominant people and natives of coastal Kenya? Which ethnic groups are the natives of Mombasa, Lamu & Malindi?

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