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You should be happy that those in the abroad are working. The bulk of real estate activities in Nigeria is financed by abroadians (more than 70%). So, I wonder why you are against those working abroad.

Also, as Ednut stated, the days of 2004 are not the same as this year. There are many Nigerians with GOOD jobs in the abroad even in the oddest of places. The skill set, language proficiency (in non-Anglophone countries) and immigration status matter.

My advice: you better focus on shining teeth with Tinubu o

In the SW, women sit at the back. In the north, women sit with other women or alone, but definitely not with another man other than the rider who is not her husband. In most parts of the East (SS & SE), men sit at the back.

OP: When in Rome, do as the Romans. I served in the SW and sat at the back, I did not mind. My interest is getting to my destination on time and not in pieces.

P.S. Before someone brings their mumbo-jumbo political reasoning to me, the SS&SE are geographically situated in Eastern Nigeria.

seanwilliam:
bro, you’re very much on point.
Infact I’m still licking my wounds due to some financial mistakes I committed .
Lol since morning, I just finished reading all your topics on economics and financial analysis .. God bless u abundantly..

My pleasure. I recall you from the Beggars thread.

I have seen poverty what looks like, and I don't like it. I like the good things in life. It is not like I come from a wealthy family, but we sacrificed a lot to be where we are today. I have seen how having too many children, having children for different men and from different women render folks wretched. I have also seen how a lack of long-term planning and delayed gratification have wrecked people.

Poverty is a bad thing and worse than death.

folake4u:
Lmao. Actually, your points are valid.

Folks should be a bit selfish in birthing children especially those ones that say children are a gift from God and I go born all the pikin for my body, boom! They birth a football team.

Raising children these days is not funny at all.

That is the truth. Even if one does not have ambitions or extra-flexing or elite schools' ambitions, just feeding is something else. Na why I keep emphasising vasectomy to men because female contraceptives can fail, and the truth of the matter be say, the burden of providing for a family or a large proportion of it lies on the man. Even the side chic some men indulge in has a low ROI. People have to use their senses. Things are hard everywhere.

I had a friend way back and her erstwhile boyfriend broke up with her when it was time for marriage. He's rich but he said he can't take on her family's burden. I didn't blame him though and I told her my thoughts. She isn't the first child but her whole family solely depended on her for survival. Plus they were 5 kids (inclusive of her). Told her that her siblings need to start fending for themselves somehow because nobody is coming to save you.

Not fair on the lady. Which is why it is important to begin early with the question: how many siblings do you have?

folake4u:
Your own is too much. 😂😂😂😂

I have to o, because to maintain a level of financial comfort as a black man, one must be wary of the black tax.

- Sponsoring a woman to school? I no do.
- Sponsoring a sibling or cousin of hers to school? I no do
- Opening a business for any of her relatives? I no do

I better don't get involved in what I cannot finish. So, I target those with just two siblings. Hopefully, God bless me so I meet the one with just a sibling.

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Young ones should deter/caution/dissuade their parents from having more children than they can cater for. I am proud to say I did that to my parents. If I had not, I doubt they would have been able to sponsor me to where I am today. People must be a little bit selfish.

AreaFada2:
My brother, your guess is as good as mine.

But there are common observations
Although it seems illogical, building from scratch is easier than maintenance. Not physically easier, but psychologically. And psyche is VERY important in anything.

You see, building is a labour of love. You experiment, make mistakes, innovate, learn a lot and succeed. You cherish it and will work harder to maintain it.

Thanks for the reply. I agree that building is hard, but when built, the builders cherish it so much and strive to maintain what they have built.

Anyway, this thread and many others is a major reason I am wary of any lady who has more than 2 siblings. That is one of my first set of questions when interacting with any Nigerian/African lady: how many siblings do you have? More than 2? My mind says back off.

When my parents stopped at three, others decided to fire on till four, five and six. The Gods forbid!

tensazangetsu20:
Theres nobody stronger in body, mind and spirit than a Nigerian married man especially those living in Nigeria.

If you see the way I discourage my brother from ever thinking about marriage eh.

But I have preached this thing since 2020: https://www.nairaland.com/6035550/nigerians-poverty-certain-acts-perpetuate
Nigerians just have this belief that nothing dey happen. The good thing about this thread is that it encapsulates the views of the average Nigerian, especially those outside Lagos and Abuja. If na Twitter or Reddit/Nigeria, Ndi Lekki would tell us Nigerians are enjoying.

maasoap:
Tinubu didn't become the president based on tribalism. He became the president because he had allies, relationship built over the years. What was the percentage of Yoruba votes of the total votes recorded by Tinubu?
Obi got most votes from his tribesmen more than any other major candidate in terms of percentage of the total votes

But Tinubu, your guy, won every state in the South West except cosmopolitan Lagos and came behind Atiku in a close contest in Osun. But he garnered a lot of votes by sheer numbers from Yorubas including in Kogi and Kwara. He also won the North West.

Let's not distort facts here. The majority of Yorubas voted for Tinubu. Be proud of it.

NoToPile:
Tomatoes

I just wonder how very low income earners are surviving coz 50k can't get you much these days for food especially those with little children. If it's adults they will rough it but children they have to feed well, have to eat fruits, take milk, eat eggs etc etc. And people earn 50k monthly with wife and children.

Feeding money is crazy these days, just to buy few things here and there you have spent 70k not stocking the home oo, no major thing like bag of rice, the most annoying part is it's inside 2 bagco sacks the thing will full e go come be like film trick unlike when it's the boot of the car that will be filled with 70k.

So my brother e reach to price the whole market oo.

Tensazangetsu20,

Na true you talk. Married men should never be envied. Any married man in Nigeria has strong balls.

When I analyse issues from the root rather than the stem or branches, Nigerians go attack me.

The issue has to do with having lots of children. I have recommended vasectomy as the solution, but Nigerian men dey say no. Female contraceptives except hysterectomy can fail. Vasectomy remains the surest means of restricting childbirth, but una no go listen. Now, una don born FOUR children. I wonder why you people think having many kids is fun. Having four children means you have to spend at least 72 years of your earnings, time and energy till they become 18 years old at minimum, and 100 years of your earnings till they attain 25 years old at maximum.

Na body go tell una.

Misterone:
Yes, this is true. No Tinubu supporter will regret voting for him. This is because we knew there were hard decisions to be taken and Tinubu was the right person to take those decisions.
Some of these idiots come online to post rubbish. Imagine one complaining about the cost of pepper 🌶️! Something that you will throw the seed at your backyard and it will grow! So, government should grow pepper for you! Rubbish.
We never get sense for this country. Most people think government exists for the purpose of feeding and taking care of their asses. When you travel out of the country then your eyes go clear. Rubbish.

Yeah, the same thing was said by you and your cohorts as the reason Buhari was voted in 2015.

Gerrard59:
Please answer these questions:

- How can Peter Obi win the North West (dominant Muslim region) and North East (home to Shettima and Atiku)?

- Why do you think Tinubu will lose his backyard?

- Why do you think Yoruba Muslims (an active political section of the populace) will vote for Peter Obi when an illustrious son of theirs has a strong chance of being the president?

- Apart from the FCT, Benue (some of whom are in IDP camps) and Plateau (that has many displaced people. Displaced people don't get to vote), why do you think Peter Obi can win Kwara, Nasarrawa, Kogi and Niger states?

Dave2011,

Are you there? These are questions one would ask Obi's so-called "intellectual" supporters, yet they brushed them off. I really don't know why Nigerians don't understand Nigeria for what it is, rather than what they think it should be. In 2019, as a team, you couldn't defeat the incumbent, but you believed the incumbent party would be defeated if the opposition is disunited?

C'mon!

lastkingsman:
I get one wey I fail wey still dey pain me. The outcome was they needed above average scores for both the verbal and quantitative reasoning. Got above average for quantitative and average for verbal.

See better trainee job with salary above the 38,700£ thresholds. They will eventually sponsor it one can get it.

Generally, across the world, na during the test stage most applicants dey fail. I don't know how it is for American firms, because I don't often see/read that firms organise aptitude tests for applicants. But the test stage is where dreams die.

Karleb:
The only exception is if you have a scholarship or study in Brazil, a tuition free country.

With proper planning, it is cheaper get a BSc and a better education in Brazil than in present Nigeria.

This involves learning Portuguese from secondary school and being hopeful a visa would be issued to write the entrance examination into Brazillian universities. The aspect of scholarship isn't applicable as anyone regardless of economic background can get a scholarship, and apart from the US, there exist very countries that offer full tuition and living expense stipends to undergraduate applicants, which are highly competitive anyway,

fullclub:
What I mean is that they value UK experience more. However that does not mean that you won't see jobs with Nigerian experience but it might take time.
Don't be surprised that u get over 150 rejection on indeed but if u keep pressing u might get at last

But you and I know we needed money instantly to sort bills immediately we land in the country hence hoping on this big jobs is not the best.
Even if they pick you, the reference and screening stage and whole recruitment stage might take 3months.

So it's something you plan for long run .
But in short run immediately u land ... Cleaning jobs, security, warehouse, care, factory jobs might employ u much quicker. Infact they have been a life saver to many

In summary, a one-year MSc program is not worth it as it leaves a short time to go through the recruitment process.

lastkingsman:
The graduate trainee jobs are super competitive. Don't forget that both undergraduate and postgraduates are eligible for this.

You can have 300+ people applying for just one or two positions. That's the ratio.

Pre tests are similar to those dragnet/shl exams with very little time. So they take the very best from this outcome

Well, the same process here: SPI tests as they are called are similarly bloody and strictly in Japanese. The good thing is the program is two years.

WriteerNg:
🤡 🤡 🤡 🇦🇺 🇺🇸 🇬🇧 🇪🇺 🤡 🤡 🤡

Joke of the day! Chinese military elites would laughing so hard. As if China is not already prosperous.

emmaodet:
And China better sit up and smell the coffee because if Russia falls, what will befall China will be a child's play to what is happening now.
Breaking Russia into 15 smaller countries and adding these smaller 14 countries to NATO to boost NATO army and military budget will be what china can't stand.
The earlier they stop doing this sisi thing and jump into the war boldly just the way NATO is doing, the better for their own future.
Let them send Russia 200b dollar as aid also and send 5000 military men as instructors to disguising as fighters and endless weapons to deter the west.
These one west and NATO are arming Ukraine to the teeth while threatening china to stay off shows china cowardice.

Honestly, you are right. I don't know what else to suggest, but should Russia fail, China is gone! No ifs or buts. The Century of Humiliation would look like Child's play. Now, the US is coming to her backyard with small small economic deals with South East Asian nations.

tensazangetsu20:
Theres nobody stronger in mind, body and spirit than a Nigerian married man.

Man, looking back, I wonder if Oyibo do juju on Nigerians regarding this japa expedition. The tales I have on this thread are not palatable. I recall Emmaodet narrating how shocked he was to see his friends/associates selling all they had just to japa on student visa. Man must be glad with his decision to stay back because I must be honest, it is better to shine teeth with Tinubu as a married man with your hard-earned assets in Nigeria than cry in the UK because the British are making things tight for immigrants.

So na so slave trade bin dey? Nna mehn.

fullclub:
Most talk in Nigeria... If u are travelling learn an IT skills it's high in demand blabla... When u arrived u go know say khaki no be leather in fact u go sabi say u de dream. Without UK experience u wan get job

te fees and living expenses to sort your bills then any plan you make is as good as not planning

You go see where men de beg money from Nigeria take complete money for rent.... Monthly rent here is 700,000 naira upwards

I am curious, what if the person has actual industry IT certifications like those CISSP blah blah blah? What about actual work experience with tech firms in Nigeria? Is a UK work experience still necessary provided all tests are scaled through? Also, what about graduate trainee jobs recruitment programs in the UK?

Treadway:
I said it.

The key thing to note in that screenshot from the University of Reading is 'they have noticed a pattern from THE REGION YOU APPLIED FROM'

So there you have it. Be prepared for a time very soon when more schools will now make you (Nigerians) jump through hoops to even get your application considered, deeper scrutiny on top your application, hoops that other nationalities won't have to jump through, and scrutiny they wo

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Once I saw that, I knew it has finished - the UK haff cast! I wonder where is next.

boneruns:
Guys, ensure you have 50-70% of your tuition ready to be paid before you leave Nigeria if you’re going for Masters in the Uk. No jokes, it’s not funny now.

While for undergraduate, get the complete one year deposit in full before you leave Nigeria. It’s not exaggeration, it’s not funny at all. Don’t get that hope you will pay your balance while working here.
. A lot of people were misled by their Agents, they got here and became stuck.

Finally, if you can, consider other countries in Europe.

Unless the person comes from a wealthy family, no Nigerian should study for an undergraduate degree outside Nigeria. It is not possible. Undergraduate studies are for a minimum of four years - four years of living expenses and tuition fees.

Covenant, Babcock, ABUAD, AUN, and Baze exist. Even Ghana or South Africa should be avoided unless the person's family is very wealthy, preferably their earnings are dollar-denominated.

DavSagacity:
Do u noticed we have not heard of balot snatching, grabbing and violence in the South Africa election

But ignorant Nigerians believe Nigeria is above South Africa

IronGalaxy:
Everything that comes from a Nigerian mouth is always anti-black and pro-white.. I've never encountered such mentally colonized people> Your beloved "whites" left the state bankrupt after 94.. wasn't that greed?

I am curious, assuming the DA ever wins or has a slight majority due to the ANC's incompetence, what do you think would happen across South Africa and how would black South Africans perceive it?

Focusmind:
If the opposition parties had teamed up, they would have dislodged the ruling ANC, going by the numbers. The same thing happened in Nigeria. The opposition failed to team up, to dislodge the ruling APC and their votes were fragmented

There is just no way the opposition would have teamed up. Their beliefs are so different. DA team up with the EE? Never going to happen.

AreaFada2:
I have said for some years now that within a generation (around 20 to 25 years) from now, a white guy will rule SA again as president.

Most of those who witnessed apartheid as adults will be gone, sense of history will be much less, mixed marriages/mixed race population will have increased, black South Africans will have demonstrated their incompetence in public office, like in most other sub-Saharan countries, and expediency will force a more sanguine population to look up to a white leader. Very unfortunate but it's the truth.

It appears it might happen sooner than I thought.

You are a prophet! I recall when you have been saying the bold for so long.

But in your opinion, why are the black leaders or black Africans in general so incompetent in managing a functioning system? This time, they don't have to build from scratch, just maintain what is ground. Why is this so difficult?

Areafada2, I am curious.

MT:
The worst part of it is that , most students are paying third party to do their assignments for them. If these students write exam, most of them would fail. I assisted two friends and they graduated with distinction in tech based master courses. I warned them that it would backfire but they put pressure on me to help them so they wouldn’t fail the courses, Today, they are working in care homes because they don’t have capabilities to get a job in the tech industries. Tuition fees gone to waste.

I am curious, don't they have an academic background in quantitative courses like Physics or engineering or mathematics? No tech experience while in Nigeria?

pansophist:
Lets not forget that the US sacrifices its ''allies'' where its convenient.

The about Japan is now a reality. He called Japan a flower garden. It looks beautiful and smells nice, but when the gardener comes to pluck it off, then it becomes a barren land.

Look at Japan in the '60s and now, then tell me that it pays to be a US ally. Japan has never and cant recover from the damages of the Plaza accord.

It is what I tell Chinese here: the same attack you guys are getting from the US is what the Japanese faced. Yet the US forced Japan to sign the Plaza Accord and see how it resulted. You guys should not back down. Make sure you develop to whatever heights you want to.

pansophist:
But they are right. The war in Ukraine is the death blow of US hegemony. I can explain.

But with nukes? this will be the time dying will be a good fortune than being alive. Thats the worse invention human have ver developed.

Look at their names sef. One nuke Russia has is called SATAN, imagine that.

Simeonjoe1:
The thing is majority of Taiwanese are pro west and anti China. The KMT will never have the public support in fact they are viewed as a Vasal for China. And if by miracle they come into power the Taiwanese people will resist any unification agenda.

That is true. I have met a Taiwanese who moved here because he believes in the near future, there will be a war between the US and China over Taiwan. He likes the West, but I had to let him know that fighting China because you love the West does no good to the overall Chinese people. "Why fight your brother because an outsider egged you on? Look at Ukrainians and Russians killing themselves. Does it make sense if you fight your brother whereas the outsider is safe and watching you both deplete your population? Remember your birth rates aren't even high, so why waste lives?" He reasoned it and says I am right and the best way to do as China says: don't declare independence and stay neutral.

On the other hand, all the Mainland Chinese I have met insist Taiwan is part of China and they would never allow it to go away. That it is just a matter of time for them to get it, but let it go? Never! One stated that they were taught never to allow the Century of Humiliation to repeat itself. So, they are ready to fight to prevent such reoccurrence.

The truth it for many decades majority of Taiwanese has been westernized, they no longer have that hard conservative stance like native Chinese, if China is expecting using political schemes to get taiwan they are in for a long ride.

Yes, political schemes won't work, but economic and lagging birth rate schemes would at a point force the Taiwanese to choose a struggle. Mainland China remains its biggest trading partner. China has to play the long game to win. I don't see Taiwan outdoing China in economic manoeuvre. Currently, the US has briefly overtaken China as the source of Taiwan's exports, but as long as China grows and there exist economic opportunities, Taiwan's overall independence from China looks unlikely.

NSNO:
Men have a reputation for being stoic and reasonable but the men we have on nairaland are the absolute worst of all. To them every woman is a prostitute, an evening newspaper, an olosh0 etc.
A woman is missing, she went for to collect d1ck.
A woman was raped, she must have tempted the man or she is lying.
To the men on nairaland, a woman is nothing but a v@g1na and you people will not allow her have her vagina in peace.
Look at someone up there saying that women can never have intelligent conversations and that says a lot about the environment that person grew up in.
Some are in the diary section updating us about their lives.

Na that one dey annoy pass: a lady gets missing or brutally murdered, and instead of focusing on the killer and its motives, everyone lampoons the woman. It is a Nigerian thing as the same mentality exists on Facebook and Twitter. The constant bashing of the female folks can scare non-Nigerian women to stay away. So, I am not surprised. However, this was also performed by Ndi ifemenists on Twitter until male activists countered back.

There was one that shocked me: a lady came here narrating with pictures of her tour across Nigeria. Almost half of the male responses called her ashawo and whatnot. You just call someone ashawo because she toured Nigeria?! Interestingly, as I write, she is married to a doctor, now tours West Africa and does not bother with Nairaland.

The major problem is that most Nigerians cannot debate issues logically largely free of sentiments and state their points accordingly. Too many ethnic groups with varying interests distort people's reasoning.

kkins25:
Seuns forum is a clear representation of the staring lack of creative minds in Nigeria. It gets boring after a while, reading the same thing over and over again.

my career path. Come and see calculated advice..😁 😁 😁..Somebody even DM me to send CV. I didn't sha. My skillet never reach that level.

What I love most about Reddit is that you can never tell who is a millionaire and who's not. People talk like people. No classism. You won't hear that nonsense my people do, "I earn bleh bleh and have traveled bleh bleh."

Not just that, but logical minds. People don't like to or want to assess issues holistically, but their perceived beliefs. The next thing, boom! They claim ethnic superiority from nowhere that one would wonder from where to where I spend time going through the Facebook comment section of the Economist, Wall Street and Financial Times, New York Timesand the way Oyibos debate issues is very logical and thorough. They support their argument with facts and it becomes very interesting. Even the Telegraph and DailyMail, they construct their arguments even though one might disagree with their beliefs, but they are well constructed. On the other hand, when confronted with superior facts, they back down and accept they lost the debate. The same holds across the subreddits I follow. They debate logically and provide well-thought arguments. But our people?! For where! It is a major reason I liked and followed Sagamite's account. Man was so logical in his arguments.

r/povertyfinance, r/finance, r/piracy, r/ask. r/Nigeria ( they are even trying, but na relationship matters they quick trend) Omo!!!!!!!!!!!

And I will follow their way of life. This one here for people living in the jungle.

Those people who don't believe that Nigeria has issues with electricity? Those ones who don't believe there are Nigerians who use kerosene stoves and firewood to cook? Those ones who believe Nigeria begins in Lagos and ends at Abuja?

pansophist:
Goodluck man.

The years young Africans waste trying to get another country's citizenship, before starting their life, is a loss to Africa. We should be building our homes and protecting our homeland.

Black men don suffer

Truly, we have suffered a lot. I have been visiting places and in all, I am the only black person. It got me wondering why are there few black tourists and the answer is we no get money. We are just too poor. Even when one sees a black person(s), na African American. Black Africans are so few in these places even though I wager that we constitute the majority of black folks here. One might say but you are in East Asia, but I see Latinos and Arabs.

It is a major reason I keep hampering on black men having fewer children. To dey born born everywhere is not a good thing in a rapidly changing economy and geopolitical world. See Sudan? That country is gone for good!

Mindlog:
Very minimal as Cambridge is the most expensive city when it comes to rent after London though very beautiful with centuries of history all around you.

The biotech/tech scene is very huge as we have our version of Silicon valley called Silicon Fen, Europe's biggest tech and innovation cluster...the power of University of Cambridge!

Simply means blacks in the UK haven't been able to rise to the cream of British intellectual working class population or aren't interested in long-painstaking research in biotech and software engineering. Yet the way it is screamed in the media, one would think blacks in the UK are a force to reckon with in the economy.

Sha, if e didn't dey, e didn't dey.