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Domaining101:
Lolzz. One reason i can never relocate abroad to stay. How i wan take dey fûck 5 days a week for abroad? My love for sex and women (Nigerian women especially) No go gree me. Here you no need guide or fine too much, just hold small money and package yourself well, na toto go dey find you come. But the abroad wey you dey go, the money wey you get na him everybody for there get too, if not more. Not like their girls don't like money too ohh, but the kind money you need to dey fûck their girls steady, you gats be millionaire in dollars, dey drive the least Lamborghini SVJ That's why i pray every day for Nigeria to remain like this because if this country better, toto go expensive and to fornicate regularly will become difficult.

I appreciate your honesty. You know, I once thought that Nigerian elites intentionally make the country the way it is so they reap the benefits, one of which is easy/cheap sex.

Thanks again for the honesty.

IbeOkehie:
This Gerrard, why do you keep making so much sense? What is wrong with you biko No Nigerian reasons like this. Wetin do you

(2) This one is funny. I've posted about this, most of the Igbo educated classes voted for Buhari and hated Jonathan. As for the Yoruba, their own parochialism was out of this world.

I wondered what went on in their naive and ignorant minds. I wonder about their current state of reasoning looking at Buhari's economic policies and in(actions) towards Igbos. Other so-educated Igbos who fervently supported Buhari then were DrChife, a one-time director at Apple Inc., and Oby Ezekwesili.

Anyway, I only posted because of your stellar comment. You must STOP making sense, it's not Nigerian. You're not Japanese, logic is NOT your culture.

Good Luck to Nigeria.

anonimi:
Based on what you know/may find out about South Korea, China, Japan, India etc economic growth and subsequent prosperity, is free basic education and healthcare critical to achieving it?

Those features came AFTER economic prosperity, not before.

P.S. India is a gigantic Nigeria that happens to show some signs of economic progress, although tardy.

folake4u:
Women that knowingly marry wandering preeks are trying. I don't envy them, they're God's strongest soldiers.

So, you would divorce your man because he has side chicks? I am genuinely curious. No harm intended.

MODIFIED: Folake, you can divorce such a man. The OP's papa no try at all.

anonimi:
I am also more of a private sector focused capitalist but understand the need to tax the rich progressively and make them donate for every single child to have free education and for every single resident to have basic healthcare, equitable law and order etc that are carried on by adequately educated and compensated workers.

Is this not a fundamental difference between us blacks in widespread poverty, and the rich races?

If you understand that, then why don’t you emphasise it in your posts

Your first paragraph is a very good strategy or development initiative. I like it. I think Singapore did the same with excess export earnings. Hopefully, Namibia and Guyana do the same with their oil revenues when the time comes.

I am not against such, but I am more interested in economic growth and subsequent prosperity first. You cannot tax your way to prosperity.

lauzun:
There is a lady I know.
In the run-up to last year's presidential elections, she was a vehement supporter of Tinubu.
She was going everywhere campaigning for him and telling everyone how, at last, Nigeria's "messiah" had arrived.
She rubbished Atiku and Obi at every turn.
"Tinubu, and only Tinubu can Nigeria and give us a country we could be proud of", was her mantra.

I didn't know that this witch was processing her documents to relocate to the UK.
Two days before Tinubu's inauguration last year, she called me that she and her entire family were about leaving Nigeria.
I was dumbfounded. It took all my willpower not to wish her plane to crash.
This woman and her husband had secretly sold all their houses, cars and other possessions to leave, knowing that Tinubu had nothing to offer yet she campaigned vigorously for him.
She ran away from Renewed Shege.

Sounds astonishing till you recall that most of Buhari's fervent supporters emigrated to Canada after they witnessed his economic incompetence.

AreaFada2:
Responses here show how very bitter majority of 9ja people are.

We didn't have social media or even GSM back in the day to learn from people abroad what the situation was.

Now you can hear directly from those abroad. You can weigh thing up better, plan better, avoid early mistakes upon arrival, etc.

But all you hear is "they won't come back o, you earn in pounds, what is minimum wage in UK, etc.

I beggar to differ, sir. The problem is people who earn in pounds but lament about their expenses as if they are spending in naira. These people never state their earnings, but always whine about their expenses. The dishonesty is too much.

anonimi:
Why are you so obsessed with infrastructural development without emphasising services and utilities as well as maintenance despite your own education and exposure in countries that have electricity, water & sanitation, healthcare, law & order etc functioning?

Is this why you expect us blacks to forever be inferior to whites for them to determine Biya’s reign rather than the people of Cameroon, as the people of Japan do for their PM

I mentioned infrastructural and economic development, not just the former. I am a capitalist, an unrepentant one at that. I am all for economic performance regardless of how the governing country is. Economic prosperity comes before knowing how to maintain infrastructure. Hungry people aren't interested in maintaining anything. And even after prosperity, they don't know how to maintain their infrastructures, well, you lease the maintenance to those who do. The koko is to be prosperous.

Lordbinsmar:
You just stated the real fact. Just having a valuable skill that people are will to pay for is the real deal. That is the main fact OP is failing to acknowledge. Just last week I attended a virtual job fair with ASML Netherlands. I saw lots of Nigerians doing really cool stuffs at ASML.

I accept that traveling to Chile is a great choice for OP and I am sincerely really happy he is doing well because he is a testimony that hard work and resilience along with great strategy pays. But what he fails to acknowledge is that he is highly skilled and an average Chilean would not be opened to the type of opportunities he his opened to.

People are making in in different part of the world, it has more to do with how valuable you are as a human being, then the location you are based.

The bold is very impressive! Kudos to those folks. In fact, I once discussed with my tech bro friend the possibility of working for TSMC Japan's operations, but he does not fancy working in companies with an East Asian work culture. His company founder and CEO is Japanese (born and bred) but with a Western-style mentality.

OP has actually acknowledged that it is a skill-set issue, not necessarily location. However, his argument regarding Chile is how it was easier to move there and the immigration policies compared to most European countries. The Netherlands which you referenced is now against international students and even mooted a policy to have both undergraduate and postgraduate courses in Dutch rather than English. Heck, the Netherlands does not have an embassy in Nigeria.

If you could go back to earlier pages, I outlined the various European countries and their immigration policies targeted at African countries regardless of how positive the motive is for emigrating to those places. So for him, he is skilled and the country is favourable. Most importantly, it offers him a clear and less competitive route to work in the US. To add, he has recommended the country for tech bros and sis who are SINGLE and YOUNG. So, as you can see, he is very realistic, honest and straightforward compared to say those who recommend Germany but are silent about the visa date backlogs or UK but the lack of invites for even techies with solid work experience.

For those of you already in the EU, it makes sense if one is skilled. For those wanting to go there, immigration policies as of now supersede skill-set.

TEYA:
If the country works well then that's fine. How did Obj handing over to Yar'dua and then to GEJ and then to Buhari and Tinubu favour you? If OBJ retained power and Nigeria worked superbly well, how will that even be a problem? China got to where they are because Mao stayed in power for like 25 years. Singapore got this far because Lee Kwan Yew stayed in power for about 30 years. Kagame staying in power for about 30 years is serving Rwanda well too. Oyinbo deceived you into accepting democracy without any foundation, one president will be in power for 4 years and before he knows what's happening, it's time to leave, and in comes another one that will destroy everything he worked to build. We will never get anywhere that way!

Those countries, including Rwanda which is smaller than Niger state, are largely homogenous. Nigeria is too ethnically and religiously heterogeneous for a life long dictator in a democratic dispensation.

DeepsightX:
Dont be silly. What good job. Do you know his human rights record?
Mandela that did one term only and quit, was he a white man? Or not an African?

Dont support the sit tightism of African leaders please. Paul Biya is still there in Cameroun in his 90s. Too many others to mention in the past.
Its a bad thing. Its not a monarchy. Stop supporting it.

Paul is incompetent. Lee Kuan Yew lasted over 30 years before stepping aside. Guess who? His son.

If Paul is competent in terms of infrastructural and economic development, fine by me. Anyway, as someone stated, he is going nowhere so far he is on the same page as West is.

tensazangetsu20:
From Chile the only country I can move to is the US and that's legally with either a work visa or getting a US green card by petitioning it myself.

I am not doing any schooling again

You no go do PhD in AI and Computer Science?

Wetin shock me na my Chinese lab mate who says he intends to commence job hunting soon as he is not interested in PhD. I asked why, "Man, I want to start working and earning money. Besides, the salaries for PhD grads in Japan are almost the same as MSc grads".

For most Chinese though, they have plans to return to China after some years here. PhD is highly regarded there and salaries are higher, but the competition is stiff. So, they get PhD here then work experience and later move back home to get higher positions. Well, such was the same for Nigerians during 2007-2014. Most did not even work in the UK after studies and returned to Nigeria immediately. But in 2015, they voted for a cattle rearer because he promised to pight kwarruption. Today, Teeside University dey pursue them upandown for failure to pay school fees!

tensazangetsu20:
This is like someone coming to Nigeria and wanting to know if we have public schools that teach in french. Public schools o not high end private expensive schools.

Arrogance and ignorance are two features associated with Nigerians. To worsen it, they are notoriously poor! Now, I see why other Africans find Nigerians very annoying.

Funflipper:
Of course, because they have been warned repeatedly about the dangers of hooking up with strangers for monetary benefits.

That does not justify deaths. We have had girlfriends, wives and even female travellers murdered for one reason or the other. Are you saying women should not associate with men at all? Because that is where your judgement is heading to.

From the posts so far, the so-called boyfriend hit her fatally. Are you saying young women should not have boyfriends? It seems you people don't grasp the ideology that is being promoted. Wetin dey happen for South Korea go worse pass Nigeria. Nigerians no kuku get money sef.

Taofeekdboy:
Switzerland is very good as well and they pay good salaries, I have some backs working as tech guys there , but they are not alot as Scandinavian countries and Eastern Europe. Their resident permit is quite hard to get and alot of bureaucracy. One of my chapter leads just joined my previous company "EPAM systems" in Zurich, though he is white. I don't really know much about the NGO companies there, but I know blacks are working there and their resident permit is quite hard to get

Yeah. The residency permit is hard even for white Europeans, so imagine how it is for blacks, especially black Africans. Swiss immigration laws discriminate across regions. It charges more residency fees for black Africans compared to say Americans. So, those blacks there might be those who have citizenship in an EU country. But yes, Switzerland is the go-to country for higher salaries in Europe. As with every high earning place, it attracts a lot of qualified applicants.

NGOs are largely different because they are either affiliated with UN-sister organisations and transfers are common. Also, they don't employ a lot compared to the real industry.

Waiting for Ndi "She went to do hookup, so she deserves to die"🙄

Taofeekdboy:
Lol. Spain is not even paying high salaries, I have some Spaniards that are coming to Lithuania to work. Salaries in Spain are not great at all. Also, it depends on companies as well. Some companies pay more salary for the same positions than their peers. If I want to relocate to another country, it will be between the Netherlands and Denmark, they have good benefits for expats and high salaries as well. And black people in top companies in these countries. The company I am working with which is a bank has its headquarter in Denmark and the guy heading the Technology department is From Nigeria living in Denmark, I could imagine the amount they will be paying him . To be honest, if you know what are you doing and you have good skills and experience, you can thrive in any EU country

Impressive to read. Having the skills is the koko. The developed world is willing to hire and pay someone regardless of origin, looks, skin colour etc., provided the person is skilled. Well, that is how they stay developed - meritocracy.

I am curious, do you know anything about Switzerland and the blacks working in non-UN affiliated/NGO organisations?

If Northern Nigeria is removed for mere analysis purposes, Southern Nigeria could be described as a middle-income country. One thing, it would still be the wealthiest nation in West Africa and come much closer to dem Egypt and South Africa. Another thing, the HDIndices would rise tremendously.

But hey, the rest of Nigeria likes "One Naijeriya".

tensazangetsu20:
That's what he said. These are all lies. From the day I entered Chile, recruiters were pursuing me left right and center. Infact even though I am working I still get recruiters messaging me everyday

I am glad you proved him and everyone wrong. Impossible is nothing. Honestly, you have been a source of inspiration.

Sha, till he comes. I want to hear what he has to say.

tensazangetsu20:
Bro Chile that is fucking developed. Obesity is even a huge problem in Chile. He said people are dying of hunger. Where. There's even food banks to get free food here. My church even gives out food. You go to church on Sunday and various provisions are put on the table outside. Who's dying of hunger in Chile.

Well, whenever he is coming, I will message you for full details of the conversation so I can question him thoroughly. I want to assess his thought process. Your uncle used a simple test of visa-free status to assess the country's level of development, as such places don't have citizens dropping dead because of hunger.

When you said you wouldn't take the advice of a black man immediately, I considered it too harsh. But as time goes on, you are being vindicated.

tensazangetsu20:
I remember before I came to this Chile. Even though all my research I did was good at least from everything I saw online, I asked one black political geoanalyst on Twitter what he thought about Chile. This guy told me never to try it o. That I will die of hunger that people in Chile are dropping dead on the streets from hunger. That Ghana or Kenya is better for me if Nigeria is too tough . Ghana wey get like 4000 job openings on LinkedIn totally lol. Kenya is also horrible. I did my undergraduate in Ghana, so why would I go live there.

Funny enough it took a week to get a survival job in Chile after I got my residency card but I abandoned that job to do UberEATS cause it was easier to just sit home and have my interviews with UberEATS but with a job you can't just tell them you aren't gonna come to work cause you have interviews that day. No one is gonna buy that lol. There's so many jobs and opportunities in this country it's crazy and my school is going great even though it's in Spanish, I will be finishing with the highest level of distinction If I maintain my current grades. My second semester was even way better than my first.

In this life, when you make up your mind on something and you have properly accessed the risks, omho go for it o. Even if you fail, failure is nothing so long as you alive. You can always recover and trust me when you are recovering you are so much wiser and smarter.

Wow! He really uttered such? Well, he messaged me that we should meet up when he comes to Japan. I would really question his thought process because the bold is utterly ridiculous for an American citizen to say.

As for dem Matrixreloaded, the Agungi landlord who would soon battle flooding, the best response is plenty of success. So-called elites who queue to buy petrol while holding war-torn Ethiopian permanent residency status. As an Igbo man, who knows whether the Lagos state government don demolish him house.

Beremx:
how does this gibberish you wrote answers the question asked?

Berem who campaigned and voted for Buhari in 2015 because she foolishly believed that she would be rewarded by APC Internet bigwigs, only to be deceived just like many ignorant and naive Igbos and tossed away. Gbawe has cashed out, just as many of his kith. But being Omo y!bo, nobody looked at your face. Today, you are campaigning against the APC. However, pre-2015, you joined the calumny against Jonathan.

Nigeria will always remind you who you are, and I would be here to remind you and say ntoor!

Like Ogbonnaya Onu, like Chukwuemeka Nwajiuba like Berem.

Kelechi009:
Relax, we are still having the conversation. That is why this convo is important, I am looking at the merits and demerits lol

For example, some Igbos have at least one building in the east, while they don't invest some do have 1 or 2 properties.

Finance is the most important metric regarding retirement, not whether you like the place or not. Loving a place comes after you have the required funds to retire there, not before. From my head, these are some of the black-dominated countries you can retire to depending on your finances.

- Bermuda, Barbados, Jamaica, Bahamas, Suriname and Cayman Islands
- Kenya, Rwanda, Ghana, South Africa, Zambia, Nambia and Botswana. The likes of Ivory Coast and Senegal are good. A one-time second biggest rice farmer in Nigeria - Rotimi Williams - fled to Senegal after marauding Fulani herdsmen didn't allow him to farm in peace, but pieces. https://www.nairaland.com/7723312/nigerian-kidnap-gangs-drive-big-time
Benin Republic and even Togo are also okay.

Note: Some, if not all, of those countries have their economic challenges. Everywhere in this world has one challenge or another, but it is a double whammy to have both economic challenge and insecurity challenge which is fueled by religious brainwashing. Christians are not butchered in South Africa simply because they worship Jesus Christ. That is the difference.

Other good places are Dubai, the Dominican Republic, Mauritius and Brazil. In the US, there are countless of black-dominated states. If your worry is not being around those who look like you, I am here to tell you that there are good options other than Nigeria. Remember, you are there to retire.

So, for emphasis purposes, Nigeria IS NOT the ONLY black dominated place on earth.

Kelechi009:
My Nigerian reputation precedes me every where I go when I am outside Nigeria, I don't know If you experienced any ill treatment because of the Nigerian passport but I do experience it and I realise no matter where I run to, I will always be tagged a Nigerian who comes from a poverty ravaged country.

If your name is indeed Kelechi; well, there is nothing that can be done. You would always be seen as a Nigerian. However, if you do have a passport from a developed country, which every Nigerian elite and its offspring possess, you would not experience the harsh ills of a Nigerian passport holder. Obviously, a passport is a means to an end, not the end. But always consider the economics first. Even DrChife who campaigned and voted for Buhari in 2015 (see? Another so-called educated Igbo man) presented his American passport while travelling across Africa when the Nigerian passport gave him issues.

That said, except in a few cases and places when clearly defined as an African American, every other black person is poor. Black people constitute the LARGEST contingent of POOR PEOPLE anywhere in the world. To be black is to be poor. Black countries are synonymous with stark poverty. So, you would always be regarded as a poor person because you are black. You would call me Uncle Tom or I have low self-esteem, but facts don't care about anyone's feelings: black people do not have money. End of Discussion.

Secondly, I realise the lump sum I make abroad doesn't carry much weight except when invested in Nigeria. A cousin of mine just opened a big bar in Lagos from the income he realised abroad for 6 years, my worry is all these investments will all come to waste if the country does not stabilise economically at some point.

I am yet to understand this love the average Igbo person who resides abroad has for Nigeria. It befuddles me. This is a place where your ancestors were brutally massacred enmass by "fellow Nigerians" from 1967 - 1970. In fact, preceding independence as far back as 1940s and 1930s, Igbos were butchered in Jos and Kano. During GEJ's tenure, Bashir Ahmad referenced the Civil War and while in office, Buhari made young Igbo men drink mud water. What happened? Your "fellow Nigerians" were ecstatic and elated! They leapt for joy as if they won the lottery. Those y.ibo people are being dealt with! They were happy! Some of them had tears of joy! Yet again, Buhari threatened to repeat what his brothers did to your ancestors and called your land a "dot".

Mr Kelechi, is that the same land you fervently wish to return? Invest your life savings? If you don't return to Nigeria, would you die? Is Nigeria the only black-dominated/tropical country in the world? Is there no seemingly okay black-dominated country elsewhere? Is there someone pursuing you to return to Nigeria?

Thirdly, I totally understand that people can vote for who they want, but at least when the suffering starts during the 4 years, I expect that educated Nigerians should/will come to their senses. I wonder if the prices I purchased fuel and diesel since stepping into Nigeria is different from the Tinubu lovers buy. Perhaps we purchase at different prices therefore they enjoy life. If we are all suffering, why can't see they this suffering too.

This "educated" phrase again. In 2015, professors, MBA holders, PhD holders, MSc graduates, BSc grads with first class to add, medical doctors, accountants, company executives, student activists and even a certain Nobel laureate FERVENTLY campaigned for a man who proclaimed in 2001 to spread Sharia across Nigeria; a man whose cattle-rearing business defied the basic laws of economics and biology; a man who has been thoroughly incompetent since 1984; a man who said "a fight against Boko Haram is a fight against the North"; a man who threatened to "soak dog and baboon in blood"; a man who was BEGGED by international observers to call upon his irate supporters in 2011 after they went on rampage slaughtering NYSC corp members in the north. It took Buhari THREE DAYS before he responded to the call by INTERNATIONAL OBSERVERS. In fact, one of the relatives of the deceased corp members campaigned and voted for Buhari in 2015. He too claims to be educated.

These same people exercised their franchise in 2019, and doubled on it in 2023. Remember, they are educated o.

Fourth, I love going outside to hustle but do I want to die abroad, not really. Places like Canada are very cold, maybe one day I'd return fully to Nigeria. If Nigeria never changes, It means I cannot return permanently. Ghana is also having their own economic woes, I cannot stay there.

Without sounding like a broken record, Nigeria IS NOT the ONLY black-dominated country. There are hundreds of black-dominated countries - all in the tropics - elsewhere. If those places are not good enough, I leave you with my wise words: "It is better to reside with racists in a wealthy land than reside with tribalists in the world's poverty capital".

ednut1:
but they obtained the football rights for millions of dollars. They should not recoup their investment based in prevailing exchange rate?

The average Nigerian is an economic illiterate. From Instablog to Twitter to Nairaland. Bunch of foools!

Nigerians are a bunch of unintelligent people who are braggadocious miscreants!

LOL!

Mr Kelechi does seem to have gotten the logic guiding Nigeria: as long as the major opponent in 2027 is an Igbo man or someone from the South South, the majority of other "fellow Nigerians" would GLADLY campaign and vote for Tinubu. Your screenshot is even more hilarious because Buhari should not have been elected in 2015, but we had DROVES of so-called educated Nigerians who vigorously campaigned and voted for Buhari then. One of whom is Alore who after voting Buhari fled the country leaving his 700K per month salary to the White's man country. An Igbo man o.

In 2019, the same Nigerians re-voted for Buhari upon what they experienced which corroborated with Buhari's antecedents dating as far back as 1984. In fact, if Buhari contests against Tinubu today, Buhari would win a free and fair election. In 2023, despite all the economic and security havoc APC orchestrated even to the extent of renting fake bishops and pastors, we have so-called educated Nigerians who campaigned and voted for APC. In 2027, Nigerians would troop out to campaign and vote for Tinubu, and nothing would happen.

I am genuinely curious, why are you this hopeful? Is it the Christianity? It surprises me when I see Igbos be this optimistic about the structure of Nigeria.

In the end, I leave you with the wise words of my friend Tensazangetsu20 - "No one has lost betting against Nigeria. Never has it happened". I also leave you with my words: "Understand Nigeria for what it is, rather than what you think it should be".

Tinubu is Nigeria's president till 2031. The earlier you accept it, the better.

cc: IbeOkehie

bolu96:
Lol, I was waiting for your comment. At the bolded, you talking about David Akanmu, right?

Yes.

santaclaws:
The one at the former Igando NYSC camp is occupied, I drive along the express road when I visit friends so I know it's clearly occupied, but the one in Egan was an original project of the Fashola administration, not Sanwo-Olu's project... That's all I know.

Thanks for the reply. Good to know that one is occupied.

santaclaws:
Sanwo didn't do jack! That particular project was built under Fashola, yes... I know it well cos I witnessed the project. It was built and almost finished under BRF and left uncommissioned for almost a decade.

Also, those pictures are highly doctored... Go to Igando/Egan and see how terrible the place looks. They literally doctored those pictures to make the place appear nice.

Terrible! Are you saying there are no occupants in any of the new public housing developments from Fashola till date? There is one along the road to the NYSC camp, which had no occupants. Is it still unoccupied?

victorv12:
This is how the system put you in a box. You can never fulfill your goals living in one of does.

He doesn't do it, you complain. Now, he does it, una still complain. How is public housing a bad thing? Who says you must continue to live there forever? If there is a Minimum Occupancy Period, nothing says you cannot leave after fulfilling the requirements for a much bigger and exquisite property. It is a start, just like graduate trainee. Every CEO was once a new grad employee.

@POST: Reminds me of the legendary Housing Development Board by Singaporean authorities. OTOH, Lagos and indeed every part of Nigeria need the necessary infrastructure to sustain much higher structures, especially for public housing. But first economic growth, as it begets tall buildings.

Impressive grad. 0.02 less than Aminat Yusuf's 5.0. Nearby Covenant University's BGS whose CGPA is 5.0 currently works with BCG Lagos. Let's see what Olawale has to offer in a few years considering his UNILAG counterpart also worked with BCG before winning the Knight Hennessy scholarship to study at Stanford.

cococandy:
You think every woman who records herself in a restaurant or out having fun must be doing it based solely on a man paying for it?

This is why I’m convinced most of you don’t have sense

It is a pandemic o. The majority of Nigerian men in that country don't have sense. Lots of refining to do. Honestly, they don't have sense.

Good education and proper parental upbringing should never be disregarded in this life.