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oz4real83:
you are suddenly denying everything you said in your first comment, you said Ukraine had the second best military in Europe and the 6th best in the world at the time Russia invaded, it seems you forget so easily . Just read your first comment again

I thought you were talking about second best military in the world. Sometimes it helps to talk with precision otherwise people might interpret what you say in a way which you do not intend.
You confuse being the second biggest (land mass) country in Europe with being the second best military in Europe.

oz4real83:
I took out time to read the link you posted despite its length. There was no place it was mentioned that Ukraine military ranked second, they only said Russian military was ranked second but the military took a hit when it invaded Ukraine, a war in which it hasn't defeated Ukraine to prove its ranking in second.

1. I didn't say Ukraine was second best military.
2. The number one ranked military got defeated by farmers in Afghanistan and Vietnam.
3. You guys focus too much on speed, strategy of attrition takes time. War is not like in video games nor like in Hollywood movies, you calculate, you execute strategies, you don't go in to prove how superior you are.
4. You keep forgetting Ukraine is getting substantial help from NATO. A lot of the things Ukraine is doing now are not in Ukraine's capacity but in NATO's. Also even your best friend zelensky said that Russia would defeat Ukraine in one week if Ukraine didn't have USA help.
5. As I clearly stated, I posted the link for the rankings on it because I knew it belongs to the media which you trust, that doesn't mean I endorse everything in that web page. Did I mention anything other than the ranking of Ukraine's military in that link ? NO !

erniok:
You should absolutely nothing pal. You are the 9ne with nothing to argue

You seem to just want to quarrel rather than exchange anything of intellectual value, I'm not interested in that, life is too short bro.
Have a nice one, bye bye.

erniok:
I guess you are in the group of people who don't understand history or you did not understand what putin said.

Oh, of course you brought no argument. I showed you your mistake with argument, and now you deviate with no argument.

erniok:
True sir, not only did they hold back major forces of imperial Japan, they nuked japan to submission and US claimed that through their propaganda machine.

I don't think you understand that Germany had already been defeated by the USSR and the USSR was already occupying some Japanese islands when the USA nuked Japan, an event which stopped soviet advance into Japanese territory.
But like I said, some people don't really understand history.

oz4real83:
the highest position Ukraine military ever got in world military ranking is 18th, they were only strong when they were still part of USSR and had nuclear weapons located there which they gave up to Russia as part of the deal that broke up the Soviet union with an agreement with Russia not to invade the country. Why will you think Ukrainian military was stronger than French and British militaries? .

1. It is bizarre to say Ukraine was strong when it was part of the USSR and that it had nuclear weapons when it was part of the USSR. I would like to ask you if you consider Adamawa state to be strong or to have fighter jets and weapons assembling factories ?
Ukraine was a part of the USSR, it wasn't an independent country, it didn't have nukes nor a military.
2. Well I will have to check that ranking again to be sure, but I just found an other ranking from 2023 which claims Ukraine is 15th best military power in the world: https://www.businessinsider.com/ranked-world-most-powerful-militaries-2023-firepower-us-china-russia-2023-5
The amount of soviet weaponry which remained in Ukraine plus the amount of western weaponry which poured in since the USA took over Ukraine in 2014 made it stronger than France and the UK in my opinion.

oz4real83:
The war against Ukraine, a "small country " is still on over a year, despite all these Russian missiles that can "reach anywhere on the planet"

Ukraine was the second biggest country in Europe and had the 6th best army in the world when Russia invaded. Plus add all the assistance of NATO. Then factor in attrition warfare strategy applied by Russia.
Attrition strategy is like boxing, I hit you, but I don't let you hit me, it is slow but efficient.

People tend to identify Russia with Stalin, but if you do so, doesn't that mean you identify Georgia with Russia ?
Some people think Russia was a colonial power because they see all these countries which used to be part of the soviet union which they confuse as russian colonial empire. These guys fail to understand history.
All these countries are breakaway parts of the USSR and Russian empire. They didn't exist as countries untill they broke away from either the USSR either russian empire.
The USSR has been lead by a Georgia and a Ukrainian, so that should tell you how wrong your world view is.
Finland fought in Russian civil war as a part of that same Russia and a big supporter of the Russian emperor... unfortunately history is not taken seriously these days.

1. Not everybody who speaks inconvenient facts is "anti-west". Some people here are anti-west, some are just pro-truth and some are pro-Russia.
2. I don't get why some people keep saying "mother Russia" while they aren't Russians, and one guy just praised Lenin for ww2, I really didn't grasp where that was coming from, even president Putin hates Lenin and considers Lenin an enemy of Russia.
3. Back to topic, I'm pro-truth, the pro-west-anti-Russia people here seem to feel superior and don't actually care to make sense nor to listen to sense, so they just insult any person saying things which they find inconvenient in order to shut him up. I think some of these guys are paid nafo trolls.
4. You weirdly divided people between pro and anti west, being pro Russia is not the same as being anti-west, but I guess your worldview is binary: "you either bow or you're an enemy".

Michaeltreasure:
Why are all pro west abusive on this thread? From Ibime, Kremlingrad, Obedience etc Can't you all make your points without insulting your opponent?
Personally, I prefer Western world power to the Chinese and Russian, and that's because it's the lesser evil.
But insulting anti west, who themselves frequently make good points, just to make your own point is nonsensical to me...

WriteerNg:
⚡Investigation underway after bag with cocaine residue found on the floor inside United States Capitol Police (USCP) headquarters

This explains the level of stupidity which we observe from these people in the circles of power. They are on cocaine.

So they shot the prime minister of Slovakia.
Oh, wait for the "putin did it" to reappear, right now all we are hearing from the "manhood pianists" is that ukraine wasn't involved and that nobody in nato member nations was involvded. Yeah yeah.

WriteerNg:
⚡The foreign ministers of Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, and Iceland participated in the protest march against the "foreign agents" law in Tbilisi, Georgia.

The message is clear, they are telling Gorgians that they do not have rights to sovereignty. And some Georgians seem to agree.

WritterNg:
⚡Igor Konashenkov, Chief Spokesperson for the Russian MoD, reportedly resigned.

He's been holding the position since August 30, 2011.

"Old soldiers never die, they just fade away"

WritterNg:
I think Russia has lost up to at least 180k men. Excluding mercenaries.

No, they've lost around 50 000 men including and mostly irregulars. The number comes from a bbc investigation. And it is close to the number given by Shoigu.
People keep saying Russia is slow, but guess why Russia is slow: it is making sure it loses few men while inflicting maximal casualties on its enemy. It is called war of attrition, and it is working.

dvkot:
Bomb the crap out of them even if their role is non combatant

Does Russia have non combatant missiles?
It seems to follow the same logic as non combatant soldiers.

Fighttillvictory:
You don't want to die, but you said you trained to become a french army, and you're afraid of death. Who knows you failed the test before it even started.

In boxing, it is said that tough guys always end up last.

Fighttillvictory:
You don't want to die, but you said you trained to become a french army, and you're afraid of death. Who knows you failed the test before it even started.

🤣

People who talk like this guy and whom are in the circles of power scare me. These guys are slowly walking us in the west into ww3, I don't want to die for these people's ambitions.

WritterNg:
⚡The West should not fear an escalation of the conflict if Russian missiles over Ukraine are destroyed from the territory of NATO, retired German general Klaus Wittmann said on Welt TV.

Wittmann believes that this will help to relieve the Ukrainian air defence system, which can then be used more actively to defend the front line.

Please, don't quote me again. I don't have time for the likes of you.

Masterviolence:
That's what I thought, next time let your comments be factual and I won't quote you.

Adios.

Contradiction spotted

WritterNg:
⚡U.S. Secretary of State, Antony Blinken spoke this morning by Phone with Israeli Minister of Defense, Yoav Gallant where he Reaffirmed the United States’s Commitment to Israeli Defense and the Defeat of Hamas, but also the Biden Administration’s continued Opposition to a Major Ground Invasion of Rafah in the Southern Gaza Strip.

Ok, I quoted you to sound intelligent.
I don't have time to read disrespectful people's long write ups.

Masterviolence:
Did you quote me because of my comment or you quote me to sound intelligent?

Masterviolence:
I said this around June last year that his time was up and he would be replaced, but some persons still try to sound unreasonable by being argumentative.

The guy managed to have his country outproduce the usa and its around 40 allies combined in weapons production.
You don't realize how amazing a job Shoigu did. And I repeat, he was due for retirement before this war, he was specifically asked to continue as minister of defence after the war started eventhough he had already done his time and wanted out before the war.

His replacement has an amazing cv, except for someone with such a cv, anybody else would pale in comparison with Shoigu.
Nobody can keep that position forever. Shoigu's successor definately deserves his turn.

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Prigozhin will be happy.
May his soul RIP

1. Prigozhin was a self absorbed agent of chaos who nearly caused a civil war in his country while his country was already at war.
2. Shoigu has done an incredible job as defence minister, eventhough Shoigu wanted to resign litle before the current war, he stayed on to help his country. Now that is something.

Wow, what a cv

WritterNg:
⚡Andrey Belousov, who, if approved, will head the Ministry of Defense of Russia:

- In 1981, he graduated with honors from the Economics Faculty of Moscow State University (MSU) named after Lomonosov.

- From 1981 to 1986, he worked as a research intern, junior research fellow at the Laboratory of Modeling Human-Machine Systems at the Central Economic Mathematical Institute of the USSR Academy of Sciences.

- From 1986 to 2006, he worked as a junior research fellow, research fellow, senior research fellow, and head of the laboratory at the Institute of Economics and Forecasting of Scientific and Technical Progress of the USSR Academy of Sciences / Institute of Economic Forecasting of the Russian Academy of Sciences.

- From 2000 to 2006, he served as the Director of the Center for Macroeconomic Analysis and Short-Term Forecasting.

- From 2006 to 2008, he was the Deputy Minister of Economic Development and Trade, Deputy Minister of Economic Development.

- From 2008 to 2012, he was the Director of the Department of Economics and Finance in the government.

- From 2012 to 2013, he served as the Minister of Economic Development of the Russian Federation.

- From 2013 to 2020, he was an assistant to the President.

- On January 21, 2020, he was appointed First Deputy Prime Minister.

jjj37:
Lol
You'd think you're into this thing with your regular amateur mates., Ask around, i own this terrain you want to venture into..
I'll pretend I didn't read that thing you posted.. but on your next reply, I'll go straight to the fifth gear with you.

don't waste your time, just don't read the guy's rantings

How clever, they took the two words from the politicians' speech and turned them into a military exercise. These generals must be clapping for themselves. How swiftly will nuclear bombs hit them incase of war with Russia?

WritterNg:
⚡The UK-led NATO Command is holding Swift Response exercises in Estonia, with Russia as the main adversary.

The scenario of the exercises is the conflict in Eastern Europe between NATO countries and Russia. The exercises analyse and use the experience of fighting in Ukraine, reports The Independent.

"An Apache attack helicopter flies in support of ground troops storming Russian positions. In fierce hand-to-hand combat, a number of fortified trenches are cleared and a counter-attack is repelled with the help of drones and missiles," the British newspaper describes the ongoing NATO exercise.

WritterNg:
⚡If Poland starts expelling Ukrainians of military age, its economy could suffer significantly.

There will be no one to work, Forbes said, citing data from economists.

More than a million Ukrainians have arrived in Poland since February 2022. Of these, 371,000 are men of military age.

Their contribution to Poland's GDP in 2023 will be 0.7 - 1.1 per cent, and in the long term the effect will grow to 0.9 - 1.35 per cent.

I don't believe they are contributing anything at all. Even though contrary to other refugees they are allowed to work and have basically the same language as Poland.

As I said, you are just looking for punctuation mistakes. And you do this because you are extremely dumb.
You don't belong in a serious conversation in which intelligence is required. When we need a master in spelling and punctuation, we will call you. Right now we are trying to use intelligence, this is not your field.

StudyBarn:
I'm sure if you put more effort to perhaps stress your two working brain cells you can spell incest which unsurprisingly given your brain power isn't uncommon in your family.

I know your insanity runs deep and your ignorance even deeper but if you are going to run your mouth look for a fellow barely schooled tout and copulate. Go back to whatever crevice you crawled out off and go hang out with fellow illiterates

StudyBarn:
You are a fool who wouldn't know your mom's cünt from a hole in the ground, while I don't care about the unfortunate bïtch that whelped you, I do care about the nonsense you're spilling from the depth of your ignorance. Grab a book two bit asshole before spewing nonsense you don't know jack about

This just shows the special insestual relationship you have with your mom, please keep that rubbish for yourself, I'm not a psychiatrist.
Just shut your mouth and stop making so much noise while saying absoluteley nothing. We are not mates.

StudyBarn:
Well if you trained to become a french army officer which for the record I doubt, you'd appreciate the distinction between chief of staff which is typically a civilian office within a presidential administration and the chief of general staff of a regular standing army.

The truth is important especially in an environment where the very concept of truth is under serious attack.

Bro, please don't take this the wrong way, but you are an idiot.
Listen well: NOBODY CARES ABOUT YOUR DEFNITION OF CHIEF OF STAFF, and if you think it is part of military training to know it then you are even dumber than I thought. We all understood that the guy was the chief of staff of the wehrmach, hitler's army, the nazi genocidal army.
You are basically looking for punctuation mistakes. YOU ARE EXTREMELY DUMB.
It feels like you are a kid trying to flex his belief in his intelligence, but listen well, you are dumb, no intelligence at all, you are just making noise out of nothing.

What a noise making slowpoke.

I do not wish America be destroyed, please guys temper your comments, some of us live in the west and don't want to be dealt with by the cia and its affiliates.

StudyBarn:
That hasn't deterred your dumbass from opining on purely military issues. It matters not whether you're training to be a military person or the village idiot, the truth is the truth

Dude, I probably know the military more than you, I actually trained to become a french army officer and later to become a french air force officer, and I spent my childhood in military barracks with a father wearing a military uniform to work everyday as a signals officer. Your distinction is just incredibly irrelevant that it only makes sense if you are training people to become specialists on military positions. It is just a stupid argument, I was trying to be polite with you.