₦airaland Forum

IFSHR:
Abeg my brother help me manage am

LilX:
It is you who is very greedy. Go out there and drive your car than looking for someone to enslave

SHOOPSYN:
Driving is enjoyable but driving for long is not. Especially driving to earn which is different from driving privately. Driving for long have serious underlaying health implications.

CheerfulGiver:
Yes I've thought about it, but I haven't perfected my blue print.

The current Nigeria we live in is very bleak economically. The only way to change my own situation is hard work. I drive everyday, but I don't drive every time. I rest inbetween. I'm still home as I type but I must drive today with a daily target in mind. If I must have a fleet in future I have to lay the ground work, which I'm doing now.

If I must have drivers driving for me, none of them will gross less than 150k weekly. I cannot recruit anyone making darkness than I can. I won't tolerate excuses cos I'm in the game. I'll train and retrain them until they are hard boiled. I know how to push people.

Drivers delivering 45k weekly is possible and that's where I'm working on. What I've found out is that for 45k weekly delivery to be possible, I have to find a way to make drivers pay 15 - 20k less on fuel costs. In that way, paying me 45k will not affect their earnings, nor their lives.

If a driver who drives a Corolla, for instance, grosses 150k, and nets 120k after bolt payment. His fuel cost for the week is 30k. This leaves him with 90k. Out of 90k, he happily pays 30k to partner. Established fact here is that driver is happy after keeping 60k for himself.

I've identified the Toyota Prius. That car can cut down fuel costs by half. But until I drive a Prius for a full month myself, I cannot factually state that what I think about it's fuel saving abilities is a fact. I've also thought about diesel models, but I can't be factual if I haven't driven one.

Therefore, with my Prius permutations, driver grosses 150k, and nets 120k after bolt payment. His fuel cost for the week is 15k. This leaves him with 105k. Out of 105k, he happily pays 45k. Established fact here is that driver will also be happy after keeping 60k for himself.

Now if driver pushes harder and grosses 200k, you can imagine how much happier he'll be after paying 45k.

I like you sir. You think quite differently. My conclusion is lazy underperforming drivers, should be sifted like Stone from abakaliki rice, hard working ambition driven drivers should be recruited and then paired with a low fuel consumption car in great condition like a Prius, or Honda civic hybrid for optimum 45k weekly results.

Hybrid cars and corolla are priced similarly, funny enough.

IFSHR:
See English like oluomo PA own..

If you know how much can be made....why not quit squirting all over the place...roll your sleeves and handle the steering....

LilX:
Which increase in fares? How much is fuel?? Like I said , drive your car yourself if you can't keep it at most 30k per week.

Felicity0001:
I thought I made myself clear already on how much is ok for married couple and singles...

So where did you not understand?

As a matter of fact 25k is very very much okay generally so pets not create any form of segregation.

I read somebody said bolt has increase the fare, what kind of poor analysis is that? How much was fuel b4?

Its reasonable to say owners should increase rental fee due to inflation on cost of purchase of cars and cost of repairs and parts but to say because of surge and N70/km is not a technical way to argue at all.

Any owner that wants to rent at 30k and above should opt to hp and stop acting like you're doing the driver favour for his hard work by maintaining your own car. Mind you these drivers are only renting your car and no matter how long or how many years he uses the car on rental the car still belongs to you and not his so why should I rent a car for 30k and above? For what As as how na?!

If it's HP then the driver knows he's working to get something at the end of the contract but how certain can a driver drive on rental to buy his own car? How possible can a man with responsibilities be able to save 2.5m to buy a corolla?

So you guys should understand there's a large different btw rental and HP so why asking for same amount? Same owner on rental with a particular car for 3yrs wants 30k per week as one on HP, so tell me who is the selfish one here now?

The renter
The hirer
Or the rentee?

CheerfulGiver:
All these are permutations and are not real analysis. You analyze based on emotions, not facts.

Come back here after you've driven your own car for six straight months. I can talk because I have.

Have you?

CheerfulGiver:
I drive my own car. And here's my current weekly earnings. I'll quote you again at the end of today

No police, no lastma, no mechanic, no repairs.

I only added a liter of engine oil cos I realized my oil was short just after 3000 miles from last service.

Look for another name to use for your analysis. I have broken all shackles.

IFSHR:
How much the driver makes with a car on rental is not the business of the car owner.. the problem is not the earning, the problem is the contract details used, and the man management prowess of the car owner....

The average car owner don't know anything about the business, and their failure starts from asking for just any rental agreement contract, they modify the name and validate the contract without personalising it to fit their preference and what they are offering..imagine a landlord in VGC using same tenancy agreement with a landlord in Akute e.t.c. Your rental agreement must represent the current economy and projected economy of the business (if not you will complain and cry every-time)

Secondly, Rental implies giving out/transfering possession of a particular thing (not ownership) to a second party for use in return for an agreed fee, termed rental fee) the returns generated from the use of the item is basically the rentee largese and by law in return he is expected to pay the agreed rental fee to the renter .... So whether the rentee makes more than the rental fee that's his gain and if the rentee makes less than it, definitely his loss, anything other than this is just individual play of give and take. For instance: you rent out a house and the company makes a lot of money and you feel cheated, the legal thing to do is to activate the part of the contract which states the rental fee is open to renegotiation, but the question is how many of this rental contract have such provision (none that I have seen)

Thirdly, under rental especially for an item that has depreciating or appreciating attribute there must always be a well stated plan of action, when it comes to maintenance and repairs, most of the rental agreement just indicate repairs and maintenance to be handled by owner (wrong move) some indicate that repairs below or above this amount (wrong move). Imagine renting a house and your bulb gets spoilt and you start disturbing your landlord (?). For car , there are two type of cost ...running cost and repair cost....running cost such as fueling, servicing, buying of battery, electrical fault ought to be handled by the driver, why repairs such as engine related, gear related and other high end expenses should be handled by the renter (ownership is not transferred)

Renter (car owner) have every right to review his rental fee, very legal, that can be done reviewing the current earning possiblity, the current repair expenses, and you draw up your contract and table your offer to the rentee (driver) it's left for him to accept, reject or counter offer. (simple).

Lastly, the man management skill, if you don't possess it, you have no business investing in this nature of business... You must be ready to hire, review, fire, and inspect....lack in any of those areas and you will cry bitterly...

I will restate my point, any amount the driver makes out of the car is never the business of the car owner....if you want most of the earning to be yours as the owner, then what you have to do is employ drivers (I moove)

Pearl1910:
Divide Rent by 6, multiply by 3. That's the amount u will pay me.

IFSHR:
The aggregate salary of all her employee is more than what she earn....if you want to earn more diversify (the higher the number of car you have on the platform the higher your earning ).

Before she employed you went through interview and you both agreed on a fair remuneration...just like you did with the driver renting your car.....if you think you want more, then call your driver and renegotiate...it's simple and straightforward.

....I ask you again, what do you think is the fair weekly remittance ...

tunlapapa:
He has the experience.
It is hardly possible to get a request from foreigners here and keep you waiting.

You are the strange lot. You were once here requesting for a driver to drive only at nights and still deliver 25k.

Felicity0001:
Mind you, yours inclusive, so maybe using yours as a yard stick remittance should be 8k weekly... Lol

As for me the only time I made 120k net was during the era of 3% after 20 trips on Uber... Even with this bolt daily bonus of 2k after 10 trips I'm still struggling to net 100k weekly. Now I'm being frank here... Net oh I said not gross... The highest I've done recently a day on bolt is 25/27k I supposed which took about 11-12hrs online for me... Now after that long hrs driving do you expect or think same person can still do same hrs the next day and the next day? When I no be robot.

Now, yesterday I didn't go out at all due to the traffic that dealt with me on Friday I got home drilled out, after 1am I entered house...was only able to do 3 trips on that very day Friday... Mind you Tuesdays are my resting days so I didn't work ... This is the reality many will not come out openly to say but as for me I'll always stand by the truth.

Look at the experience BAZ001 just shared... Would an owner prefer rent at 45k weekly and get hus car destroyed after a month or do 25k and let the driver work and have adequate rest and his car last longer? Which would one prefer?

30k to me for a single man is still now bad because you cant compare a single dude with a married man but 30k for a married man to me? Is a big No! Take it or leave it!

Lastly, anyone that wants to rent @60k, 35k per week or wants a deposit its up to that person after all no be help the person buy motor.

Pearl1910:
When u ask a student to determine his pass mark, what do u expect.
Tokunbo corolla should be 35k sef, but I say 30k non negotiable. Owner does all repairs.
But owner of car is asking what is the amount that will be comfortable for a driver to pay, u may still see someone that will say 20k is what he can deliver

Felicity0001:
Oga the op asked question how much is recommended, since you have a standard amount drivers make daily then recommend something to him na.

dru23:
Very (insultive) You want to start war be that.. This is mostly a drivers forum... And a lot of this drivers are making money.. Some will even tell you 20k rental.....

And if you go against them they will come after you like vultures... Bottom line these guys are making money ........ Due to the raising cost of parts and importing cars etc ... I think 30k to 32k should be the ball park mark for rental


And to show how these are making money. I had a new driver weeks.. The first 3 days the car was down for repairs... And usually the driver only remit based on those days during down time...... And this driver still deliver is 25k with no issues ......


Trust me am in the business these guys are doing very well ......

hopefullight:
Honestly its insultive for owners to be paid 25k weekly with a car of 2m upward. I am Not surprised drivers here are Not commenting on this topic.

I am interested in sending a car with Öl and tire to Nigeria for uber , but seeing drivers making above 150k weekly then asking owners to accept 25k( 50 euro) weekly is repugnant.

Trust me some of these drivers are cursed and have an absolutely evil mind, they think they are clever,
Taking advantage of the gentleman's ignorance, one even said 15k, imagine

donfortune48:
My brother follow me ask oh!

Someone will gross 200k a week with 30k fuel.
Remove Bolts 40k commission and it will be remaining 130k.
Driver will now pay car owner 25k and pocket 105k for himself.

And na car owner go still fix motor if E spoil from that 25k oh!


Wicked Ants.

DonnyE:
I am really surprised that alot of guys here boost of making over 30k a day here, how come 25k remittance to car owners is recommended? Meaning the owner of the car of 2.5M is only getting one day of work. Or it's not possible to make over 25k a day? It doesn't seem fair to car owners.

smallvill:
Everybody is vouching for you, you much have made a good impression on them.
1 what happened to your last car?
2 where do you leave?
3 Are you married?
4 Am using a tokunbo car which you will be the first to drive in Nigeria because I don't want stories.
5 you are sure of 25k weekly?
6 it's a 2006 Toyota Corolla is it ok? Or you
have specifications?
Expecting to hear from you.

Advision:
Dont give out a tokunbo car for less than 30k weekly except you want to run an NGO. Calculate the average cost of routine servicing, replacement of parts and cost of a tokunbo car before making a decision.

Moreso bolt have upped the rates

nickvanilla:
Nigerians have this mentality that once you are an Uber driver, it is either;

1) You didn't graduate from school or,
2) You graduated but never got a lucrative job
3) You had no other option but to borrow,rent a car and drive like a miser around Lagos.

I won't lie, before I started driving on bolt I used to think like that. In fact, if the car wasn't flashy I would never imagine that the rider owned the car.

I don't even want to go into some details but you see some of these riders, don't be surprised if they do not have up to one-tenth of the money in your account balance. Some people just like to dey overdo themselves.

This morning I was talking to a colleague and he said one day when the Uber driver he took was trying to confirm his transfer, he saw over two million naira in his account balance and he was like, "na me wey no get up to 300k for account dey balance for owner's side?". He was shocked.

I know people who own businesses, landed properties in Lagos and drive Uber. Many of them are here. Some people just do it to kill boredom. [i]Some dey use am gather money for other plans. I don too talk sef. Make people continue to dey mumu themselves. [/I]

nickvanilla:
The level of disrespect I have seen from some riders is just something else. I know we don't talk about it often here but it is so baffling. I don't even understand the mentality behind it. A driver is just a service provider as everyone else and deserves some courtesy at the least. Honestly if not for ratings, I don't think it would be that bad.

dru23:
I guess you want some of my mama's cooking .......


You are upset that I no longer use your service.. I also recommended someone to you and the person was not happy with your job ...

This customer stated to me that you lack the proper tools to do the job .. And the customer had to go to YouTube to find solution......


Now a while back that you came to do oil change on my car .. You dump the whole 5quarts of oil instead of 3/2 quarts.. I had to tell you to empty it and gauge it....

Second... I had a camry 07 that I ask you to fix .. You got the wrong parts for it . And I had to have some one else do the job .. I wasted money and you offer to do job again...

This is the reasons why I don't use your services anymore.. And you complain to some one about it. And the person told me himself.......

You need to focus on your craft and build urself up...

Felicity0001:
The way most rider use it is very wrong. You just ring somebody and the first thing you say is, "Oga where are you?" No salutation, no any formal opening or introduction of conversation or persons, most of them even if you say "hello good morning/evening" they don't even answer you they just throw the question at you. Its speaks a lot about that person.

1. Like they're running out of airtime and needed to send their message without any time wasting. Broke azz niga

2. Like they're your boss while the uber driver is the slave who was asked to wait for them at a spot and by the time they come out they couldnt find him so out of annoyance they put a call through to ask with annoyance "where are you?!" With a commanding tone.

3. Riders that do this have entitlement mentality. because they think drivers must come pick them at that very instance irrespective of where they're or where they're going to, what gives you the thinking I want to go to Sango, Badore, sangotedo, ijegun, ikotun at the 11th hour of the day?

Though some rider have good etiquette, they ring you tue driver...

Hello Mr. Felicity001, how are today?
Please I just requested a ride to So so so
Do i expect you?

100%... Such a rider already has 5stars even b4 the ride stars.

At least you called somebody the first thing you do is introduce yourself.

Not all those once with "where are you?"

Gentlelife50:
And because they are half naked or on hills they should be asking mumu questions?
If they are as smart as they claim they should be seeing the driver on the app.
Just call to provide suplementry info if need be, oyibo will never book a ride and start calling you to be asking yeye questions like 'where are you?'

sonymax16:
Hmmm.....can u educate me on that?

judymoz:
Good morning guys, please i need a car to work with on rental bases.

Please if you do have or know anyone that wants to drop his/her own, please link me up.

I reside in Obawole Ogba Lagos, and i have an active bolt account.

Here is my Whatsapp num - 07039544844

Thank you and God bless...

peeps4u:
You're so right

BAZ001:
Very good suggestions sir, if drivers can do this it will go a long way. I support any Way of sending a message to them rather than discourage an idea even though it might not work but from their other people like you will come up with what will work. I was at bus stop when I over heard a lady pricing okada.
Okada man said 400 , lady said 300 okada no gree las las she agreed on 400. And I go blow go person house wait 5mins, on AC, stop for road to by guguru & epa, enter bad road to end trip 500 naira.
The way drivers are enrolling everyday, I doubt if they will want to increase fare knowing fully well that drivers can never agree.

BAZ001:
Bros I nor expect this kind thing from you ooh
You have 9-5 work
Your dashboard na million
You wan down tool for December,
I sure say u no join endsars movement
Why not encourage d strike rather than condemn it, every driver should be able to take one day off.
Even partners should join d strike.
If you can’t join don’t condemn it.
Everything don sky rocket for market yet na same fares except na surge.

I don save d date I go follow switch off app, even if it doesn’t work let it send a signal to d coys.

I heard of a strike in U.S dt all d drivers will switch off their app at a particular time say
9am to 12 pm or at airport at a particular planned time. So that all riders will get stranded and app coys will get many complaints.
Let’s say Monday off Uber app 6am - 12pm
Tuesday off bolt