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donstan18:
[s] Una Don start again...

Bros lockup.

You no fit go North go misyarn about their religion.

Leave all those coward talks [/s] .

Please shut up. Deborah refused to beg and apologize when she knew she did nothing wrong. She was not a coward like you and seankafor.

seankafor:
[s] knowing when to quit a fight you re disadvantaged is wisdom.

You see you re outnumbered, disadvantaged, minority.. yet you go ahead to dig your grave In the name of bravely is foolish
He who fights and runs away lives to fight another day
You re foolish for calling me a coward [/s]

Stop making excuses for your cowardice.

seankafor:
cowards they say die many times before their death..

Fear is what kills a man, as long as a man is dictated into submission by Fear, that man is a coward. Seankafor you are a big coward.

Amoto94:
There's a judicial procedure to determine what measure of punishment is appropriate should the person be tried and found guilty, let the court handle it.
Muslims arent allowed to insult the deities of other faiths but we are rather encouraged to debate with knowledge and wisdom or shun debate entirely when it's not possible to have a civic debate. A Muslim is not even allowed to live in a place hostile to his beliefs except if he's weak and unable to migrate then he should bare whatever comes his way with patience till his condition becomes better.
We should learn to separate the general from the specific my position and that of Muslims is, blasphemy is wrong and punishable but as for what happened in the case of Deborah we

Why should a Mortal determine what is disrespectful to a God? Why should a Mortal give out punishment on behalf of a God? Why not let God deal with the blasphemer himself ?

seankafor:
leave sentiments alone

SHe was surrounded by Muslims, it's not what is right and what is wrong
It's about applying knowledge and wisdom.

I wouldn't dare that if it was me, unless I didn't like my life.

Baba please tell me exactly how she was disrespectful and and inciting violence? All you are doing is acknowledging that you are a coward who is scared of standing up for himself when things gets hot.

seankafor:
you guys are using a lot of sentiments to judge this matter..

It's a known fact that sokoto and most northern parts of Nigeria is full of Muslim fanactics.. same as Iran, Afghanistan and the rest..

Now if you find yourself in these places, it is common sense that you don't meddle in some certain stuffs especially when it has to do with their religion (since you already know they can kill for it).
Yes the world will cry when you re killed.. but that's where it will end..

Killing the girl is not acceptable, but was the girl insensitive for voicing that kind or note in a WhatsApp group full of fanatics?

I made mention here of my escaped with a driver who is a hardcore NK and ipob supporter..
This was a time when a bus was burned in my state for defying sit at home..
The driver was in support of the action so does few other passengers..
I tried to bring a logic and educative Convo with the driver if burning of vehicles and killing of people who defys the rule is how we re going to stay together in our biafraland if achieved..
Omo, this man change am for me full time, if I had insisted or did hardman, it would have escalated to violence and I would have been overpowered because I was the minority in that bus..
So I had to use my head and shut up..

If you find yourself in Afghanistan, can you replicate what that girl said even if it has to be murmur?

Common sense isn't that common?

People should be let alone in their space, anything they like, they should do with their life and space.. don't go meddling in people's stuff no matter how right or neutral you think you are..

If christians haven't evolved or haven't gotten to this level of enlightenment, I gues it'd have been the same scenario too..

What is even wrong with some of you? Did she go to any mosque or the street and start insulting their Allah? She was in school group chat with her fellow course mates and was asked "how she passed her previous exams" which she replied to with "na Jesus o" Which is a typical reply of a christian. Please tell me exactly how that reply is disrespectful and should lead to her death?

Havertz10:
[s] The issue with most of you is that you don’t know how to properly analyze issues that’s why there is problem in the world

Stop being self centered and looking at the world from your own lens

Try to understand why people take actions and only then can you have a conversation with them about changing it

I don’t think that what happened was good but it’s the reality of the situation, if you like complain from now till the end of time, Muslims don’t mess around with their god and even I wouldn’t be foolish enough to attack them in their own space, knowing that i’m vulnerable to the consequences of my actions, I mean is there anybody that isn’t cognizant of the consequences of such actions in a Muslim dominated north

You guys kill people for much less than a god in the south and here you are judging people for standing for their god

Christians have attacked me multiple times, I have been cursed and promised death by many Christians, this foolishness swings both ways only difference is Muslims don’t mess around with theirs particularly if you are in their space. [/s]

Mr Man shut up and stop jumping from pillar to post. If it was christians that committed this act every sane person would still condemn it cause it's barbaric. The idea of blasphemy being a crime is nonsense be it for Christianity or Islam. Condemn the act and then shut up.

Ellexy:
Men are in sizes and so is power. Dangote for example due to his wealth and influence can be more powerful than a state governor but he can't dare go toe to toe with the Grand commander of the federal rebuplic.

Power at the highest level no be anybody mate, las las na jakpa and exile go end am.

Nobody is arguing against the bold. I already said it before.

Godx:
Only a fool will want to spite a sitting president in Nigeria. Dangote is amongst the cabal ruling Nigeria my gee.

NinjaXmetahuman:
why not use DEMOCRATIC societies like Zimbabwe or Russia?

USA billionaires know how to lobby and deal with politicians.
That doesn't mean the president of USA for example doesn't have power to destroy any billionaire he wants to destroyed.

The President of USA cannot destroy any billionaire. In a capitalist society the wealthiest are the most powerful.

raumdeuter:
If you call misuse of money lobbying, Misuse of power can also be called National security

National security trumps everything else

There's no correlation between national security and a dictator.

It depends on the ecosystems in which you are a part of. In a well established democratic society Money gives you power automatically. They are wealthy men in Nigeria more powerful than some Governors.

raumdeuter:
If Dangote is using his money the way you want, Its also misuse of money. If Dangote is using money to buy politicians in corridor of power then its also misuse

If Dangote can misuse money then Abacha too can misuse power. And at the end na the person with power go win

Roman vs Putin, Why Roman never talk or where are those that talked now

Roman on top all him money they banished him from UK to Israel, The person wey banish am no get money reach am

You cannot fight power unless you run away from that location to another place

Dangote like every business men uses lobbying which is lawful. Misuse of power is not lawful and only works in a dictatorship.

NinjaXmetahuman:
there is also misuse of money. What's your point?

The examples of jack ma you are jumping to bring out can only work in a dictatorship and extreme conditions . Why not bring examples from a democratic society like the USA?

donstan18:
Of Dangote having boys in every sector.

The man said it himself.

donstan18:
Still assumptions bro.

Do you have proof?

Proof of what.

NinjaXmetahuman:
is a dictator using something else apart from power?

There's a reason it's called Misuse of power.

NinjaXmetahuman:
Power is power.
Money needs power to be safe. That's why billionaires spend good money to be on the good side of those in power.

Money buys you influence, but power gives you everything Including money.

Power trumps money in whatever way you chose to look at it. Power can make and destroy.

Personally, I will choose money, but never mess with power if you have the money.
The story of jack ma should have taught anyone a lesson that you don't mess with power.

Jack Ma is under a dictatorship. Even power cannot save you from a Dictator. You can have power and still be useless under a Dictator.

donstan18:
Contradiction.

Lol, are you not assuming he has boys?

And at the same time calling someone out for assuming?

You think Dangote that has sponsored plenty politicians and their campaigns don't have boys? Even Buhari was begging Dangote to be on his committee during his campaign but he warned him.

raumdeuter:
It only takes one govt policy to turn Dangote to "former billionaire"

These are statements made out of presumption with no foundation to stand on. Dangote has boys in every sector of the Nigeria Government.

These people don't realize Dangote has both money and power. Before any policies or rules are passed out Dangote already knows about it. When I said Dangote is amongst the Cabal ruling the country, it's not a joke.

Havertz10:
how can you abolish the sacred opinion of a significant majority, a presidential candidate deleted his tweet condemning it

Even the president or his team haven’t made a statement

Same way other barbaric laws in history were abolished .

timay1:
Tbf, billionaires both home and abroad don't criticize politicians or dabble into political discuss publicly. They do their talking behind the scenes.

Leave that nigga. He expects someone like Dangote that has direct contact to the President and various Governors to go Public when he has a problem. He doesn't know anything.

Havertz10:
is it tho? Laws and regulations are guidelines based on the sentiment of the people

If an aggregate proportion think that it’s wrong for their imaginary god to be insulted then it’s illegal

while it’s barbaric, it’s the reality of the situation

They are barbaric and should be abolished.

pocohantas:
K. Continue burning people.

kk.

pocohantas:
Burning people is bad. It is a crime. Whatever your reasons are, it doesn’t make any sense in the court of law or to human reasoning. Thank you.

What's the difference between burning people for some crimes committed and the death sentences carried out by the court of law? Why am I even getting carried away when all you have done is compared apple to oranges all through.

The idea of blasphemy being a crime is actually nonsense.

pocohantas:
I am afraid it doesn’t matter.



The ones down South burn people for stealing ordinary Tecno phone.

The ones in the North would most likely burn you for disrespecting whatever it is they worship.

Once again, the WHY doesn’t matter TO ME. If for any reason your heart can think or perpetrate grave evil, you are evil.

You are still comparing Apple to Oranges. Burning people for stealing/Rape and burning people because they disrespected a so called Saudi Arabia man who claimed to be a prophet and died a long time ago can never be the same.

pocohantas:
Doesn’t matter why they are killed. All are murder.

The "why" certainly matters. You are comparing Apple to Oranges.

pocohantas:
I remembered this few days ago and was telling someone about it. He was asking me if that happened in Nigeria, lol. The killings have been going on for a long time. It is easy to make this a religious issue because it happened in the North. But let’s pretend like we don’t see similar news on Nairaland frontpage everyday.

Similar cases of people being beaten and then burnt for allegedly disrespecting a so called prophet?

seankafor:
I have not seen anyone or group of people that fought the gorvenment and got away with it..

Not even the daredevil terrorists

Were is the correlation? Which one is fight the government again.

Dangote has boys in different political seats across the nation. He has both power and money.

seankafor:
not so powerful to spite let me say buhari in the face..

Only a fool will want to spite a sitting president. Dangote is amongst the cabal ruling Nigeria my gee.