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justwise:
He was attacked even by the press there, one person asked him why is not wearing a suit, JD Vance is not a man of character, he needs to keep licking Trump's boot just to keep his job

It was even more irritating when the vp was reminding Zelensky that he campaigned for the opposition, are they not over the elections they won? Honestly I think Zelensky was even more tolerant, there’s no human in the middle of a war that won’t be pissed

BouquiLake:
You need to understand what he was trying to do—impress his boss!

The guy really isn't bright. I wonder why he was even there; it was a meeting between two presidents.

I couldn't help but laugh when Zelensky asked him if he had ever been to Ukraine, and he stuttered before finally saying that he had only watched the destruction on TV. Hahaha!
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The thing tire me, youthful exuberance by the vp just messed things up

Illusioneffect:
This shows you just watched a 2 minute clip
I watched the entire press conference with Zelensky. There was 40 minutes of discussion up to the argument. Most people saw at most the last ten minutes. The whole video gives the proper context.

When I first watched the argument without the proper context, I thought it was possible that Trump and Vance ambushed Zelensky or were even trying to humiliate him. That's not what happened.

You had 40 minutes of calm conversation. Vance made a point that didn't attack Zelensky and wasn't even addressed to him, and Zelensky clearly started the argument.

In the first 40 minutes, Zelensky kept trying to go beyond what was negotiated in the deal. When Trump was asked a question, it was always "we'll see." Zelensky made blanket assertions that there would be no negotiating with Putin, and that Russia would pay for the war. When Trump said that it was a tragedy that people on both sides were dying, Zelensky interjected that the Russians were the invaders.

For his part, Trump made clear that the US would continue delivering military aid. All Zelensky had to do was remain calm for a few more minutes and they would've signed a deal.

The argument started when Trump pointed out that it would be hard to make a deal if you talk about Putin the way Zelensky does. Vance interjects to make the reasonable point that Biden called Putin names and that didn't get us anywhere.

The Zelensky/Trump dynamic was calm and stable. It was when Vance spoke that Zelensky started to interrogate him. Throughout the press conference to that point, everyone was making their arguments directly to the audience. Zelensky decided to challenge Vance and ask him hostile questions. He went back to his point that Putin never sticks to ceasefires, once again implying that negotiations are pointless. Why on earth would you do this? Then came the fight we all saw.

Zelensky was minutes away from being home free, and he would have had the deal and new commitments from the Trump administration. The point Vance made was directed against Biden and the media, taking them to task for speaking in moralistic terms. This offended Zelensky, and that began the argument.

I've been a fan of Zelensky up to this point, but this showed so much incompetence, if not emotional instability, that I don't see how he recovers from this. The relationship with the administration is broken. Ukraine should probably go with new leadership at this point.

What was Vance sitting down there for? and what right does he have to challenge Zelensky? Vance ruined the entire conversation

TheGoodJoe:
Vinicius was not better than Rodri. Rodri was a pillar for Manchester City and the best player of the Euros. Why do people think Vinicius deserved it over Rodri beats me. Rodri was consistent all round.

It was a popularity contest, Vinicius still won the FIFA player of the year. That’s shows how controversial the award was.

justwise:
My God!!! I respect Zelensky more than i ever done before, he is a real man, a man with a bigger balls than Trump and his little bootlicker VP joined together.

Those two bullies were out to humiliate him,

I just wonder what the vp was sitting down there for, Zelensky asked him he had visited Ukraine he started blabbing. These kids in the oval office na wa for them

twosquare:
You can't blame him. We all see what is going on in front of cameras, but some of use forget that these two people who occupy the highest office in the land have access to privy and classified information. That may have triggered him concerning Zelenzky.

No matter how triggered, the White House is not a place for kindergartens, how can you be asking a president of a country if he has said thank you today?

justwise:
My respect for Zelensky has gone on top of the roof, he is a real man. JD Vance is a lapdog

Jd Vance is responsible for the shit in there today. Real bulshit

God1000:
Such balderdash and disgraceful behavior from Donald trump and JD Vance

Hold your ground Mr zelensky, He’s a con artist and a crook.

Don't sign a deal giving your minerals away, just Walk away instead

Jd Vance was too disrespectful there even Trump was still diplomatic until Vance added fire

https://www.ein.org.uk/news/home-office-extends-evisa-grace-period-until-new-deadline-1-june-2025

Please keep your current expired brps for use if leaving and returning to the UK

Amedino99:
for your last point, it's not exclusive to Africa. Messi has never won conmebol player of the year despite winning copa America in 2021. Same for UEFA. Unless it's a world cup, most player of the year awards are decided by exceptional individual performance.

Simple. That's why the last awards looked like a scam, despite Vinicius's brilliance and performance.

Bannedlargejr:
[As much as people are criticizing carraghah, objectively he voiced the thoughts of most European judges, journalists and agents regarding Afcon. To Africans, afcon is a big tournament but to the European judges and agents, afcon isn’t a major tournaments in the rank of a World Cup, EU or champions league and all the backlash wouldn’t change it. This is a tournament that, Egypt won thrice in a row and none of its players won the APOY during that period.

That is why their ignorance has now been exposed. Before now, European clubs weren't proud enough to showcase the exploits of their International players in Afcon, but times have changed now, except for those sticking to live in the past. A tournament with over 2 billion viewers can never be looked down upon again; that era is gone.

Zahra29:
The bolded is not necessarily true. Many asylum seekers end up relying on some form of benefits for most of their lives and many immigrants end up paying a small fraction in income tax over their working lives compared to other immigrants or residents.

That's why many countries are placing a greater value on "highly skilled"/earning migrants or those who can afford to donate invest millions to the economy , whilst also acknowledging their need for "low skilled" labour. It's a balancing exercise.

We are saying the same thing! It’s not free after all.

justwise:
Its all about trade deal, that buffoon is dishing out tariff like candy to countries and he likes to be treated like a toddler.

Though i prefer how Canada is treating him with go-F-yourself responses than Keir and others that have visited the White house

I can’t blame Canada o that disrespect is just too much, 51st state ke and the man keeps repeating it, you de whine? 😂

As for Europe they have no choice o especially our beloved Uk, Texas gdp alone de drag each with Uk, France and Germany so na ‘love me jeje’ things be the way to go!

TheLoneCitizen:
100% a major tournament.

My pick out is the the context.

He said it's not big enough to decide Balon D'Or against EUROS and Copa and I see the light.

Not in terms of quality but it's lack of equivalent prestige due to its timing and double jeopardy.

But in hindsight, Jamie Carragher has just boosted the prestige of the tournament.

There'll be a lot of emotional voting this Balon Dor and it will take a miracle for Salah not to win it.

You see now! Help us to thank him o e do well 😂

Goodenoch:

The good thing is that it has shattered any pretences of ideology associated with (non humanitarian) residency/citizenship.

It's an open market with a clear price on the goods (although certain people love to change the terms midway). You can pay 5M there or go elsewhere and pay however much over 5/6/10 years of working and paying taxes.

Pay the price and get what you’ve paid/worked for. Nobody’s doing you a favour.

It has never been about that, it’s always been transactional. Just Keep paying into our system either one-off or over time! Even the so called illegals, asylum or refugees are all still going to pay their own 5m in instalments over time.

You know why California is a sanctuary for the so called illegals? The state suddenly realise the huge billions of dollars in taxes remitted by the so illegal workers. How can you explain America collecting taxes from those who used their legs to cross into the country. That tells the entire story.

[quote author=TheGoodJoe post=134330051]Okocha hitting Carragher below the belt.

Okocha said ain’t NOBODY tryna play like Jamie Carragher 😭 fairs man! pic.twitter.com/chgMJECYrX

— Fuad 🫆 (@FuadCadani) February 27, 2025

this juncture I will say justice for carragher 😂

OgbeniOptional:
How is that racist boss? What do we call what Kemi said?

I’ll leave you with a quote from a Nigerian journalist Lara Wise;

Kemi. Kemi. Kemi.

How many times did I call you ?
How many ears do you have?

He’s just said what they’ve been saying behind you.
They said you’re desperately searching for relevance ooooo.
They will throw you under the bus.

jedisco:
In typical British speak, manytimes it's not what is said that matters, but what is not said.

What he was saying was that we who were born westerners are not chorusing about western salvation, it's you who came as a visitor that's more interested in saving us. I.e being more Catholic than the Pope. Going ahead to insinuate she was being hypocritical and only doing it to remain relevant. That jab wouldn't have hit if it was Nigel in question- folks might even acuse Keir of not taking the concerns of average British people seriously.

I wouldn't say he was racist but I can see the angle - some might insinuate that he meant she wasn't western enough to drive such narrative.

I've seen Nigel do similar with James Cleverly on a Reform campaign speech - he was basically asking where he got that name from i.e the name was too English sounding for someone of Mr Cleverlys look. Even the audience were taken aback only for Nigel to then say he was joking.

You know why? because Nigel is a right wing politician. If the PM was also someone leaning to the right, many would have seen it differently but because kemi herself leans to the right and it is too rare to assume left wing politicians throwing such jabs not many will see it that way. Kemi’s grandstanding too has helped PM in a little way to land it successfully without raising eye brows. 😂

Goodenoch:
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/starmer-accuses-badenoch-desperate-search-123457910.html

The brave, straight-talking Kemi Badenoch had another catastrophe at PMQs today, and ended up complaining to daddy the Speaker about Starmer being patronizing when he dismissed her flimsy questions (even the Spectator said they were ineffective) as 'a desperate search for relevance' from someone who had 'cast herself as the saviour of western civilisation.'

You'd almost feel sorry for her...until you remember how she reffered to care workers as butt wipers.

It looks like her real value lies in her ability to provide entertainment, and she's doing well at that, to be fair.

That was a coded racist jab from the prime minister, and for the first time, I felt some sympathy for her, but I hope she got the message to stay in her lane but what do I know sef make I mechonu!

zicky:
Eagles were not beaten by Cameroun. We lost via penalty

beaten or lost, any difference? 😜 we no lost the cup?

charlesemeka85:
star studded CIV from 2006 till when they finally win am saw wiiiiii before achieving that 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Took them almost 10 years to win

The issue with Afcon just like the World Cup you may have like 5 teams who are at their peak same period so it becomes an issue of survival and luck with referees. How can you imagine the Eagles beaten by Cameroon at the national stadium in 2000. Both teams were too a-washed with the best of African players in that era. Same thing with the last Afcon, Morocco, Senegal, DRC, Mali, any of those countries could have won it.

[quote author=elyte89 post=134310666][/quote]This one enter 😜

charlesemeka85:
Victor Osimhen is interested in joining Manchester United, but a deal hinges on the club agreeing on a transfer fee with Napoli.🇳🇬#MUFC

Osimhen is receptive to discussions with Manchester United and is keen on making the move.

[@FabrizioRomano]

This matter fit reach next year! e don reach MFM prayer point 😜

Amedino99:
I would like to know which period a league decider was ever played in f*cking January.

if you ask me na who I go ask!

TheLoneCitizen:
What's all this brit this, brit that talk.

I gave example of UCL.
There's also Serie A, La Liga, Ligue 1 who no longer take lengthy breaks. Close 24th resume Jan 3.

And who's asking you to compete with them?


And when I say attention
There's difference between hearing someone and listening to someone.

After attention, we seek prestige.

What prestige again do you need when the clubs now publicly celebrate the return of their players from the competition. The thing you’re looking am not even sure cos you have even admitted above that Afcon is expanding so what next? The clubs should relocate all their players to Africa to watch Afcon?

TheLoneCitizen:
Trending is not my goalpost here brother.
The AFCON hit a record 2bn views last year just 3bn less than this year's euros so we are definitely expanding.

I'm not talking audience, I'm talking attention and prestige.

Eric Chelle's meme from last year is as big as any image from EUROS and that wasn't even the most iconic picture from the tournament, so no doubting popularity.
We scored exact number of goals as euros, so no doubting entertainment.
Morocco set a new record at WC 22, so no doubting quality.

Give us the attention and prestige this growth deserves

You have the attention already, you’re the one one thinking it’s not enough cos you feel the entire world should shut down for the tournament. Already some leagues even have Christmas break that period. The Brits I know are very haughty people and don’t bend easily cos that’s their character so are you suggesting we go into war with them to have our way? The epl is business, Afcon too is business they can continue to coexist.

TheLoneCitizen:
You're still not getting it, play Afcon final this week and League decider next weekend versus Tottenham undermines the tournament. We need exclusivity.



"EPL not like some other European League" brother the whole football world doesn't care anymore.

FIFA is rescheduling your tournament to house a club world cup that nobody likes. Can they try that for the EUROS or Copa América?

The UCL with the new format saw games played on 21st January, first time in history. Not dead-rubber. Games that decide your European fate.

2025 AFCON despite starting earliest we have ever seen in December will finish January 18th.

That's 3 DAYS BETWEEN playing against Senegal in final and playing Bayern Munich for a place in round of 16.

Where's the relevance of the tournament?

Typical victim mentality of its me against the world. Brother it's you against yourself.
Curb your black supremacy.

This is not true, the epl was on side by side with Afcon this year and still Afcon was trending in the uk. You’re still living in the past.

With the way European clubs now publicly celebrates their players return from Afcon, that’s shows a significant shift from how the competition is now viewed. Even cynics like caragher can’t change that perspective for the clubs.

TheGoodJoe:
The thing is about racial tone. It is normal for the Portuguese, Spaniards and South Americans.

Remember Bernardo posting a racial toned meme to Benjamin Mendy. They are friends. Bernardo Silva can never be racial to Mendy. However, the reception by the public was loud. He was slammed.

Suarez is definitely not a racist. He was team mates with the likes of Kolo Toure, Sturridge and Sterling. But, calling Evra NEGRITO (Ni88a) had a repulsive reception.

I think Romeu had a similar issue. Their not racist but coming from a different culture where blacks are not responsive to this issue, they have to adjust their tones.

If you ever call a Pakistani ‘paki’ it’s seen as racially offensive. Everyone should be guided.

jihday:
if you have the necessary qualities nobody will care about you being away for 2-3 weeks once every 2 years, don’t players get injured?

Exactly one of my point o Abi na Afcon Dey injure even European players for months 😂

TheLoneCitizen:
Like It's not brain surgery.

Move this to summer and it improves the quality of the players, quality of the tournament, appeal of the tournament.


"Like how are you a major tournament if other tournaments refuse to stop for you?
Don't they stop for other continental tournaments?"

Unbeknownst to the person that actually it's the other way round every single other tournament stops for domestic football to conclude first.

But father Africa, playing a game invented by the white man, is too big to stop for the white man.

It can’t be moved to summer, CAF has tried it and it didn’t work. Know this and know peace after all African players are not good enough in the eyes of European coaches so why are they always complaining if they can get better players elsewhere. Do African players beg to be recruited by European coaches Abi which kind wahala be this or will football suddenly stop being played in Africa if African players don’t play in Europe? As long as there’s quality in Africa we will continue to see players from the continent in Europe no matter what time Afcon is played.

Bannedlargejr:
In life, whoever has the leverage has the power and that’s one of the saddest thing of life. Unfortunately, the European clubs has more leverage than our African players when means that, we have to unfortunately play to their tune or probably be blacklisted. Aside of fergie, I’m pretty certain that other big clubs placed African players on 2nd and 3rd priorities due to this exact reason but they can not openly admit it

Despite that has it reduced the number of African players in Europe? We are over analysing these things abeg. What about players who get injured and are ruled out for months you want to blame Afcon for that too?

zicky:
what about referring human to Goat or Dog in an expression. What are we saying

With goat you could mean Greatest of all time. referring human to a Dog I don’t think it’s acceptable.