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Zahra29:
Lol, me "much bitter about Nigeria"? Why, how, when? 🤣

Kemi's comment has serious security implications on Nigerians here and in the diaspora? Why, how? 🤣🤣🤣

I was taking you seriously but now I can see you're just joking around with these hilarious comments lol

I encourage you to read, re-read and meditate on James Clooney's posts 😂. He's made some strong, rational points.

Oh really thought you understood Nigeria complexity, eya

Jamesclooney:
She can be Tory leader and still be a closet activist na 😂 Unlike Rishi, she’s actually lived in other countries (Naija, USA) for extended periods of time, so she has something to compare with, firsthand. She’s embracing her heritage, staying authentic and being Tory leader at time. Nothing wrong with that.

Nigerian activist you say? Interesting. Thank you

Jamesclooney:
Rough transcript of the interview -

Interviewer: Do you trust the British Police?
KB: I do. But remember my experience with the police in Nigeria was very negative etc.


How’s the above not relevant? Naija police was her baseline position. So British Police is a huge upgrade to her. Like it was previously attributed to KB, her job is not to do PR for Nigeria. She wants to expose everything. Nothing concern her, burn the house down…maybe that’s her own way of fighting for the common man. Fair enough I say in this particular instance.

PS - I hate Nigerian politicians, so hopefully this causes her enough embarrassment for them to change (wishful thinking)

common man where? In Nigeria or Britain, what's her jd as Torries leader please educate me.

Zahra29:
What questions have I dodged? I have littered this thread with my responses and here you are saying I'm dodging questions 😂

"Reckless takes" ....."emerging activist/separatist"....🙄

All because a woman shared her past experiences and personal views.

You need to chill with these histrionics 😵‍💫

You're wrong Aunty and am calling you out on this one. You're beginning to have or show a penchant for ignoring reckless takes on issues that further divides a people for as long it align with your preferred narratives and personalities. You actually know what you're doing and it showed in your response to Goodenoch. Kemi statement against northern Nigeria has serious security implications both on Nigerians back home and in the diaspora but just like the riots that happened few months back you just don't care but trying to manipulate us on this thread to divert our attention from a very sensitive issue. You keep hammering on the police issue as if we were blind to the other reckless takes.

We are all human and no one here has denied all the unpleasant circumstances back home but all these characterisation or labelling people just because we want to become ethnic champions will only cause problems for us all. And I stand by my assertion that this is how these separatists starts hence the outcry about kemi statements. It's good to have your strong opinions but please I beg you don't ever think people can read in between the lines and know where everyone belongs or what they actually stand for. And if like kemi you're also much bitter about Nigeria I pray you find healing 🙏 and let go to find empathy for humanity. Northerners are not boko haram they are only victims just like anyone else in the world where there are crisis and wars. Cheers

Zahra29:
I actually lived in Nigeria for a few years so I know a little about your so called "complexity of the Nigerian state".

Complexity doesn't mean that you have to pretend about reality and respond emotionally when someone speaks facts as they are.

Very good no wonder you were dodging those questions. You knew the implications of those reckless takes by kemi but chose to ignore. I hail 🙌

AgentXxx:
I see you dodging some questions and some part. She mention the people of the north and also there are our ethnic enemies. Or Is Bokoharam now an ethnic group? Did you fail to read that 😂. Abeg I give up on this. Stick to your understanding of her. The End is near, we just need patience . We would all be here to see it 😀

Our dear Aunty Zarah does not understand the complexity of the Nigerian state and we can't blame her cos unlike kemi i doubt she grew up in Nigeria. All she knows is about the Nigerian police and endsars. Just allow her be jor. There's no road there

TheSuperNerd:
Man City’s last 11 games in all comps:

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Something is wrong mentally with the team. It has definitely gone beyond just Rodri's absence.

Oga pep should take a break from club football and go coach a national team or just take a break and return

lavida001:
Her next podcast will be about yahyah Bello stealing 80billion and paying 500 million to gain his freedom.

I agree and I think it is also relevant to the well being of the British people 🤔

Jamesclooney:
I just watched the video, and I have to say, this is actually fine by me. I dare say, most of us that relocated from Naija share her perspective on UK policing, 24/7 power, good roads, etc. that initial culture shock that hits you and I have no issue with her expressing that viewpoint. In fact, she even went further to say that British policing should be held to a higher standard (God forbid we compare Naija Olokpa to British police). On this particular issue, I’ll absolve Kemi of any criticism. The others, however, still stand!

Who was doing comparison? A question was asked about the British police it was oga madam that brought the Nigerian police into the conversation. A country she left many years ago as a teenager

lavida001:
These back and forth clearly indicates that Nigerians are not angry about what the likes of Shettima and tinubu are doing to the country. They are simply angry because it’s not them or their uncle doing the stealing.

How can you possibly be angry at kemi for stating the obvious.

Carton of noodles is now 10k, people only eat once a day and you lots are hear blowing grammar.

10 years from now it will be thesame story. Why can’t we just call a spade a spade and maybe things will change .

Oya tell aunty kemi to loud it na 😂

missjekyll:
She should just keep Nigeria out of her mouth and face the dispatch box. At which she is failing woefully making it harder for any other Woman of colour to get into the position.

She is 1 week ,2 trouble at this point.

Addendum: Nigeria should keep her out of their mouth too. She is not a Nigerian. Leave her alone

Unfortunately not many are seeing from this perspective. This is even the view point from which some are trying to beg madam make e take am easy but Madam don carry that naija spirit of ‘ no gree for anybody’ original omo eko gan gan 😂

Jamesclooney:
Kemi is atrociously bad but I agree with your general point.

Labour doesn’t feel any different these days with figures like Keir Starmer, Rachel ‘from Accounts’ Reeves, David Lammy and Angela Rayner, to name a few. Perhaps it’s nostalgia, but I miss the era of truly formidable politicians on both the left and right. The same issue exists across the pond (Trump & Kamala). Or is it that the internet has stripped away the mystique surrounding politicians/leaders? Just feels like the bar has been lowered drastically.

This has been one major point I’ve been making recently, the bar has indeed been lowered cos politicians these days have become too desperate to outwit each other. If we think Africa is full of despots as rulers I wonder what we will now call the crop of politicians we are seeing these days across the global north.

The summary is humans are same everywhere and once their motivations are insensitive towards humanity it’s the same outcome that will be produced irrespective of geography.

Goodenoch:
New day and I'm still in shock that Badenough thinks Northerners are her "ethnic enemies"..

I wonder how that person who wanted her to be their daughter's role model will rationalize that bigoted view to the young child while also teaching her not to judge people based on their ethnic origins.

Am not sure the Torries did enough profile check on kemi to know really who she is. I hope it’s not true but I hear her father was a supporter of another Nigerian seperatist called Igboho, so no surprises then, omo this is a disaster!

Zahra29:
I, and the rest of the world, saw and heard many Nigerians complain very bitterly about the Nigerian police during #endsars. It's not some kind of family secret that Kemi has exposed

There are lots of comments on X and YouTube from Nigerians supporting Kemi's comments about the police. The Nigerian police may have been good to you but many have far worse stories to share than stolen shoes.

I'm not sure what the issue is here - that she lied or that she had the temerity to speak about her own experiences in Nigeria?

Like one poster said, "Kemi isn't Nigeria's problem. Nigeria is Nigeria's problem"

Your anger should be directed towards the Nigerian police and government, and not towards people who speak out against their corrupt actions and brutality. Learn to hold your government to account. Smh

And nobody has complained about the British police? was braverman not sent packing from the cabinet for her utterance against the British police?

This is hypocrisy and we don’t need any British government official to remind us about what the Nigerian police looks like. It’s none of her business cos she has no mandate from the Nigerian people. Even the likes of Aisha Yusuf who are notorious critics of the Nigerian govt are now becoming irritated by Kemi’s utterances. Nigeria has lots of activists to remind the govt of their failures while madam kemi should stop disgracing herself and mind her British affairs. That’s not too much to ask

You may not know cos you’re not fully aware of the complexity of the Nigerian state but kemi is toeing the line of Nigerian separatists like Kanu and Simon Ekpa and we know where they are now and this is how they all started even the British govt was supporting Kanu initially until they started seeing the backlash. But I can assure you that the British will never risk a diplomatic row with Nigeria over the stupidity of a baby politician.

Atk1nson:
She is just a lady with a strong inferiority complex that believes denigrating cultures of supposed third world countries will show her allegiance to white Britain and the current Reform voters.

Of what relevance is her constant negative depiction of Nigeria to her role as a candidate for prime minister?

At that level, her public speeches not just random off-script talk. She has been taking her time to rehearse speeches with messages to denigrate her countries she thinks will make her look good.

A very shallow lady.

The british police have been raping ladies, one even topped it with murder not long along. She probably sees the police everyday but has nothing bad to say about them.

It is the police in Nigeria she hasn't interacted in for many decades and cultures of countries she know little about she talks about and takes every opportunity she has to denigrate.

She is the kind of child the yorubas call "omo ale". Such a person will sell her parents for money if the price is right.

You’ve said it all, inferiority complex and shallowness. The position she has accidentally gotten to is far bigger than her brain and she has no deep experience and enough intellect to carry on through the role.

The Torries are just bunch of jokes producing kids like kemi, braverman, sunak and co. phew.

Zahra29:
Lol 🤣 so Ms Enoch is not allowed to speak of her lived experiences?

She spoke calmly of HER negative experience with the Nigerian police to illustrate the dichotomy in her view between a bad police force and a proper one - to explain why SHE trusts and values the British police force in contrast to the police she experienced growing up in Nigeria.

She didn't lie or denigrate, she spoke plain facts which I'm sure many Nigerians can relate to, and even worse, at the hands of the police.

Link to the relevant interview clip below.

"The police in Nigeria would rob us. The police stole my brother's shoes and his watch. It's a very poor country, so people do all sorts of things."

- Kemi Badenoch pic.twitter.com/NJrro4EHKj

— @𝗼𝗻𝗲𝗷𝗼𝗯𝗹𝗲𝘀𝘀𝗯𝗼𝘆 (@OneJoblessBoy) December 14, 2024

/video/1

How many Nigerians have told you or you heard that the police stole their shoes and belts?

Where kemi is going surely has an end and it won’t be long

jedisco:
This made my weekend... lol

Sakpa no get respect 😒

jedisco:
UK will likely return to the EU or have a better migration arrangement.
But mk dem cool down first- they need 30 yrs in the wilderness afterall, honey moon with the commonwealth is still in progress.
It's one issue I was a bit sceptical about when voting LibDem the last time as they were the only ones preaching a return to the EU. You can be rest assured that if a referendum in held today, I would be voting against a return. My family never too plenty for here- one or two still never land.

You're a badt boy

Reform Party is waiting for you

Samueltemi337:
Iwobi Balling against Liverpool

Honestly the guy na another player for fulham

kennysville:
https://www.facebook.com/share/r/15T9ZuXLRx/


Even lookman knows his worth. Moral of the story? Don't sell yourself short

That interviewer no well o 😂 which kind question be that

jedisco:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fn_mU1r6em4

In other news, special Kudos to these our 9ja ladies. The proper 9ja accent sweet me pass.

Mk UK hold them well cos U.S companies no dey take eye see those kind brains

It will take their own personal desire to make the UK their permanent home for them not to take off

Zahra29:
https://www.gbnews.com/politics/uk-eu-reset-freedom-movement-under-30s-miguel-berger

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2024/sep/20/eu-youth-mobility-proposal-uk

The Labour government has been discussing/exploring the possibility of a youth mobility scheme with the EU

It would be amazing! if this deal goes ahead as it would directly benefit young Brits and open up opportunities for them to study and work experience in Spain, Germany and other destinations. It would be a two-way movement unlike mobility schemes and other visa arrangements with the likes of India where 500,000 Indians want to come to the UK and only five 2 Brits are interested in going to India 😂

Interesting! So all those talk of it’s our money that’s feeding the EU has now vanished into thin air.

Am not surprised cos I have always said the uk will be back in the EU either through the front door or back door.

lavida001:
3000 people go on sickness benefit everyday! Benefit scandal 🤣🤣

Your own na this benefit sha 😜

Viruses:
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Also how can I withdraw money from Amex?

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Or as an alternative just spend using your Amex account to use the money refunded

Jamesclooney:
The phrase “over-promoted and under-qualified” springs to mind. If she were an ordinary individual making such remarks, she would be openly mocked. However, as the leader of the Opposition, she’s receiving attention and stirring reactions everywhere. I find it hard to envision her path to No. 10. She lacks widespread popularity, political acumen, and the ability to read a room (lunch are for wimps and sandwich is not a real food). Let’s see how she expects the Conservative membership to secure the votes she needs. I, for one, can’t wait for this chapter to close and for her to be relegated to the dustbin of history.

This one real too? 😂 aah the babe na original naija girl and I can agree that sandwich may not be real food as an African man myself but no be everything dem Dey talk for outside aunty kemi edakun abi which kind wahala we enter bayi

Jamesclooney:
Haha…Kemi Badenoch…the gift that keeps on giving! 😂

Wait o! is this for real? No it can’t be please tell me it’s not

Cyberknight:
Oh, people may be fiddling the benefits system, but that's not what I was driving at. I'm focusing on the issue of health and care worker-led immigration.
I'm talking about the fact that Farage and co are able to bang on about high immigration and the government keeps playing into their hands. They need to defang Reform by actually doing something along the lines of: Here's an increase and improvement in pay and benefits for care workers, taking them up to NHS HCA levels, for instance. We'll take away the H&C visa for care workers for 6 months and watch and see if the already resident population picks up the slack. That sort of thing.

Otherwise, leaving Reform to keep making the running with this issue of immigration is going to sink Labour, while they continue to tinker around the edges. They can increase deportations of out-of-procedural options people as high as possible, but the public is not paying attention to that. They need to do something along the lines of when Sunak shamelessly came out to announce that they were whacking up IHS to pay NHS staff. Maybe they could have tied their non-walking people NI increase to that, for instance. Effectively you tell the people that managing immigration means everyone has to step up.

It’s all politics and no one or politician will ever come out to say the truth after all dependents of both students and care workers are no longer allowed, salary thresholds for skilled workers are sky high so what’s the next thing they want to cook up or cut again.

We are just dealing with lazy and intellectually bereft politicians who see nothing but immigration to latch on to rally up their base for votes and it won’t stop soon. Just like Trump who said today that the economy was not the major reason for his victory but the border. Already he’s already admitting that bringing down inflation will be difficult to do after all the grammar. phew

Cyberknight:
I want Labour to deal with this social care staffing issue once and for all (not going to happen, I know).
They should try offering care workers good pay commensurate with the job and then see how many Brits languishing on the benefits rolls would be happy to get out of bed to take up the jobs. Then they'll truly have a chance to spike Reform's guns once and for all, otherwise try to stop their inexorable march to power in 2029.

I'd prefer the UK not to have these high levels of unskilled immigration because it simply gives the Faragists all the more ammunition to fight with. And ultimately, when they do get into power, they'll take it as a licence to be as nasty as they want to be, which'll end up taking us to a different level akin to US-style polarisation and all it brings.

Sir many of these people you think are languishing on benefits roll are actually working doing cash in hand jobs to evade taxes, as long as those unskilled jobs are cash based they will be picked up by many. Benefits on one hand, raw cash on the other hand. Like we say in naija if you don’t gerit forget abou rit.

Too much deception everywhere.

lavida001:
Maybe it those already in the Uk.

Yeah actually

solonnachi:
CAF may be plotting for Hakimi to win the APOTY with what we are hearing. But the question is how justifiable is this? We wait and see....

I don’t think there’s any plot, after all it’s about votes, the francophone voting bloc in Africa has always been an issue, they are always the spoilers.

Am open minded like I always say it’s a popularity contest.

lavida001:
What happend to the law that states that you can’t bring in dependents.

I can’t answer o me myself am confused. May be those that got their visas approved can explain

Zahra29:
The facts paint a different picture.

According to govt figures, both skilled worker visas and health and care visas are down quite significantly compared to the same period last year.

In November, the Home Office received 4,100 skilled visa applications from foreign workers, the lowest number since January 2022 and 2,000 fewer than the same month last year.

There were also just 1,900 applications for heath and care worker visas - down from almost 10,000 in November 2023 - plus 3,800 applications to bring dependents to the UK, data released on Thursday shows.

Over 80% drop in health and care visas:

So what’s the complain now about net migration and where is the almost 1 million data coming from? Or is someone lying?

This is the argument I was making sometimes last year when all those bogus figures were being thrown around. I have always maintained that migration figures should be well segmented according to visa classes which is what you have just done here. All the hue and cry last year was about student visas and healthcare visas which were born out of valid needs. I said then that if we looked at skilled workers visas the numbers were much lower.

It’s obvious politicians chose the stats that will always favour a particular narrative now the conservatives have to show stats to prove to the public that they brought down figures while Labour have to show their own stats to prove that it was the Torries who increased net migration. Nonsense

Uk has never been that generous with skilled workers visas. It was the care and student visas borne of Brexit pressure that was used to score political cheap points last year.