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Kog45:
Na wetin player play for eagles be Koko.....oya rate Samson Siasia or Daniel Amokachie VS Ikpeba

Dan the bull any day but for injury that was a player Nigeria didn’t get all that was in him.

He and amunike gave the national team an X factor we may never see again. The Italians had to take both players out in their quest to progress in the 94 World Cup

TheGoodJoe:
Serie A golden boot is not beans.

Don’t let Oga quintessential hear this o

Joebie:
I will not forgive NIGERIA if we miss out on another world cup. I am taking this very personal, because for once I will have the opportunity to be at the stadium watching them without breaking sweat.

Nigeria or the current national team players? Abi you wan go the davido way? 😜

zicky:
Seems I'm one of the few that don't really rate Okocha, yes bundle of talent and skills but not really productive. Played for Bolton no trophy but kanu could win FA cup with Portsmouth

Feel same way but it’s arguable because as far as global football is concerned okocha is seen as Nigeria’s best ever not even just as a midfielder. I wish it wasn’t so but it’s what it is

GMBOFASIA:
Remove Osimhen lol replace with Yekini

Me sef wonder o with 13 Afcon goals

ehizario2012:
On a totally different note, £150k annually is massive!!! Whereas Salah, Bruno Fernandes, Rashford etc earn over £300k in ONE WEEK!!!!

Chai, these footballers don't deserve any rest. They should play football all day, all week!! C'mon

😂 you want to kill them for their mother!

kwakudtraveller:
I find this embarrassing for Labour, and it will be interesting to see how far this goes.

Apart from the current policies by Labour it’s also a bandwagon effect from the American elections.

The Elon musk global influence with twitter or X is no longer a joke.

I don’t even bother about South Africans anymore I bother about Nigerians if we don’t watch it we may gradually begin to pick up South Africans kind of behaviour.

The Chidinma saga big ups to us for coming thru for her but we should also reflect and be sober to learn the valuable lessons of eliminating hate from within us as a people

lavida001:
Good to know you are the ones staying back. Hope you have seen the video of the captured Brit soldier.

Get your fighting boots ready for what might be ww3 and hope you know Africans will be the ones they will put at the frontline.

It’s comments like this that continue to form the perception we get out there.

Zahra29:
Lol I also remember that you and some others forcefully rejected even the slightest notion that there might be underlying factors behind some of the UK riots, making accusations of supporting the rioters and condoning violence.

Now here you are, quickly jumping to cite those same underlying factors in the Swedish riots and violence because the perpetrators are largely Swedish immigrants. I doubt you would be so understanding if they were white.

We said it here strongly that the grievances should be taken to Westminster who are responsible for the socio economic crisis except you want to act you didn’t see it. How can underlying factors be responsible for people trying to burn down an hotel where asylum seekers were staying. Imagine the farmers who went to protest at Westminster this past week taking it out at migrants? You see it now

Zahra29:
I don't disagree with the bolded. The Guardian article I posted earlier was in fact exploring the same driving socioeconomic factors in Sweden.

I'm glad that we can at least agree that the Swedish riots and violence in certain communities may have underlying factors - while you almost flayed me and refused to even consider that some of the areas in the UK riots may have similar socioeconomic issues and frustrations. Definitely not critical bias eh 😏

We mentioned it here then that those rioting were targeting the wrong people (migrants) they believed were the cause of their problems. It was well articulated on this thread I remember.

jedisco:
True.. that article just delves a question I've been asking all along. This stuff is so easy to do if they want to.



Thanks for the history lesson.

In summary, Brexit gave the UK significantly more control over immigration than they've had in decades. The government then used its new found powers to issue over 700k visas. They've also used that same control to cut down numbers. In essence, at no point in this whole process did they 'loose control'

And talking more about control there is now a job vacancy advertised by the govt for an EU negotiator, they say it’s to reset relations with the EU, one thing I love is the vocabs they throw around to dribble people while using other rhetoric as a cover. Interesting times ahead
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cjw0xngdj2jo.amp

My brother I encourage you to apply, the pay is good o 150k per year 😜

Zahra29:
Hasty decisions lol, as if this all happened last week with Storm Bert.

If you read any reports on the Sweden crime situation, the evidence consistently shows that the gun and gang violence is disproportionately from people born outside Sweden or 2nd/3rd immigrants.

For instance, a 2017 study showed that 58% among those suspected for crime on reasonable grounds are migrants.Regarding murder and manslaughter, the corresponding figures are 73%.

There's emotion based argument and then there's fact.

Of course it’s hasty and I’ll continue to stand by that. Any area ridden with crime has socioeconomic factors responsible and it’s same everywhere. It has nothing to do with where people were born and this is too simplistic to conclude upon but because it will suit the anti migrant sentiments it becomes easier to rally people around that.

Imagine all the looting and riots that took place some months ago were mostly committed by migrants wouldn’t it be more convenient to conclude but it was easier to makes excuses that it was due to neglect bla bla bla so you see the disparity now. It’s obvious those areas in Sweden are highly neglected and lacking in basic opportunities and needs but who cares since most of them were born outside the country.

Zahra29:
Lol, it's lies because it doesn't fit your narrative.

Sweden now has the second highest level of gun death in the whole of Europe. Shocking if you knew what Sweden was like a couple decades ago.

No one is claiming that all immigrants are criminals, however in Sweden's case, police data shows that most of the violent crime is linked to a number of areas called "utsattas" which have high proportions of residents born outside Europe and second- and third-generation immigrants.

The above is not disputed, instead the discussion point is whether there are underlying causative or contributory socioeconomic factors such as poverty, unemployment and inequality.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/nov/30/how-gang-violence-took-hold-of-sweden-in-five-charts

So has this been studied before jumping into conclusion that because an area is filled with 2nd and 3rd generation of immigrants the level of crime must be traced to immigration levels.

And this is how hasty decisions are made once they know they now have a narrative that can be used to arouse citizens all for cheap political gains. It doesn’t make sense at all

Zahra29:
Sweden used to have very low levels of violent crime, just like other Nordic countries. Gang and gun crime has spiralled in recent years. I think their government has the means and data to determine how and where this surge in violence has come from.

And as to the bolded, their government has put in tough measures to deal with the crime, unfortunately it has meant that their government and policies are no longer liberal or as tolerant.

and to tell lies too ba? Let’s even come back to the Uk, it was the same rhetoric until I watch the BBC some months ago where they dispel the notion through the same data that crime increase was not in tandem with increase in migration in fact they said there was a downward trend in crime despite the increase in migration.

Just lazy politicians everywhere always linking increasing migration with criminal gangs. A criminal is a criminal and has nothing to do with where he or she comes from.

mank1234:
Coaches have more time with players. No time to convert players in national team football.

And we want to see results ? Hope we ain’t joking

jedisco:
What exactly do you mean by 'want to control it'?
You're saying conflicting things- 'it's possible' but they 'don't want to do it' i.e they do control it. Except this another attempt to absolve governments of their actions, blame migrants or present a narrative of an invasion.

Are you trying to insuate that in prior to recent events, Western nations have not had control over who they issued visas to? The ability to increase or reduce numbers overnight is the very evidence of their control.

The summary is simple; it’s all talk and do nothing. Which itself is not bad cos all stakeholders are aware of the potential economic impact. You can run campaigns with it but after all said and done that BBC article you posted here some days ago is where it all finally ends.

Zahra29:
Hardly you see many Nigerians selling all they have to go to Sweden....(fixed it for you).

Besides If Nigerians are trying to move to Germany, Netherlands, even Russia etc they would happily flock to Sweden as long as it remains in western Europe.

Sweden used to be a major destination for Africans (especially Somalia and northern Africa) and middle eastern citizens in the 2000s to 2010s. The major pull factors were the relative ease of claiming asylum and their generous social security system. Sweden was also a very peaceful and tolerant country.
Before Brexit, many used to cross over to the UK after getting their Swedish papers to join their family or for other reasons.
However in recent years, anti-immigrant sentiment has hardened in Sweden due to rising levels of gun/violent crime and gang violence attributed to immigrants or their children.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/swedish-pm-says-integration-immigrants-has-failed-fueled-gang-crime-2022-04-28/

Point is, it is possible to reduce net migration if the political will and levers are there. Most western countries don't want to reduce it to zero levels, but as can be clearly seen by the policies being introduced by UK, Canada, Australia and others, they certainly want to control it, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.

A country of just 10 million what net migration are they reducing, you want to compare to Canada that used migration to increase their population to 41 million? If people are even crossing from Sweden on their own to uk it even shows they don’t even need to do much to reduce whatever they have there. And as for generosity that’s funny cos, their low population was definitely a drive to bring in more people and this growing tendencies to always use criminality as a reason to reduce migration is just ridiculous. Criminality exist everywhere or should we say the criminality in places like India or in Nigeria is due to influx of migrants? That’s why all these gaslighting always end up making no sense. There are laws everywhere to deal with crime but lazy politicians have found a sweet spot to always label migrants as criminals as a justification to rally their base. That’s why at the end of it all, it’s all talk and nothing.

Zahra29:
Not quite. Sweden heard the bolded and said "hold my öl (beer)" 😄

Sweden has recently announced that it has not only cut its net migration, it has actually reversed it through several means:

Not so long ago, Sweden was in crisis after taking on far more refugees than it was able to handle. But a few months ago Ulf Kristersson, its prime minister, announced that he had not just cut net migration but reversed it: the number leaving now exceeds the number arriving. Anders Hall, one of his state secretaries, is in London this week meeting British officials and sharing tips. Sweden doubled the minimum salary requirement for immigrants, upped deportations and cut the number of refugees it takes in by 80 per cent. The latest idea is to offer as much as £25,000 to migrants who agree to “remigrate”.


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/11/21/mass-immigration-true-scale-of-our-worklessness-sweden-eu/

There are also many countries with negative net migration, several in the millions and hundreds of thousands a year, predominantly in Africa and Asia - although this is due to war/ political instability/ economic hardship/corruption as opposed to direct government policy.

😂 took you days before remembering Sweden sha, Let Uk just try and let’s see if they can. Sweden with their population had never been a major destination for migrants. As a matter of fact they were the ones trying to draw in migrants years ago with heavily discounted tuition or in some cases zero tuition to attract students, hardly you see many people selling all they have to go to Sweden

Bannedlargejr:
You see where star boy lookman is playing position wise. Tomorrow, Nigeria will play him on the wings and expect a solid performance

One thing with European teams is that once they see a player is beginning to have very good scoring conversions they automatically begin to put the player in a more forward role to increase the rate of conversions. Most people have forgotten that Gareth Bale original position was left full back before Harry redknap converted him to a winger to get more goals from him.

Our national team handlers needs to be more dynamic with our players to get the best from them and not making them look like otondos when they are in the GWG.

TheSuperNerd:
Adefire strikes again!!! 🔥🔥

Ademola Lookman back on the scoresheet.

7 Goals, 4 assists 🅰️ in 10 Serie A games.

That's 9 goals and 5 assists in all competitions.

What a Player, that’s why it’s sad seeing the eagles lost to Minnows in Africa. It makes a mockery of the our world class players

elyte89:
Dem just Dey beat guardiola like tif

Who kan better pass btw real guardiola and eguavoen pep guardiola 😊😊😊

Coachee I believe in you pass Guardiola o

jihday:
England knows he’s special, he knows he’s special, Arsenal have been hyping him even before they signed him as a kid, my bro just quit dreaming about this boy

After the victor Moses experience England will hardly allow any top quality slip through their hands again especially to Nigeria, dem go die there 😜

Baca satellite campus in the mud 😂

viccy12:
Only in your dreams

😂 can’t you be nicer?

jihday:
18 years old boy dey start Euro final in a team with Figo and Rui costa but them say he no get talent, these Barca fans and their satellite campus (Man City) fans too dey funny

😂 this is brutal na, satellite campus kwa

lavida001:
no government can’t halt migration but it can be reduced drastically. Africans should stop believing they have to go abroad to become the best they can ever be in life. What’s stopping us from staying in Africa making it enticing so people can come here and not the other way around. Abi all of Youna don neglect una home ?

Migration is a global thing, in fact Africans are the least in the number game. So we are the even the ones staying back to develop our place.

cococandy:
There’s been systematic brain washing going on in America and it has unfortunately led to this. Right wing propaganda has long arms.

It started with the demonization of college and education. As more and more people opted out of getting education, more people voted for right wing politicians. There’s a direct correlation in that the population that voted for them most were the uneducated ones.

The lack of education makes them unable to follow a premise to its logical conclusion. It’s unfortunate but even online arguments and presentation of facts etc cannot solve it. The problem needs to be solved at the root and that is grassroots deprogramming.

For now we just have to share a country with them and suffer the consequences of their political choices with them.

How else can you be a parent with children and vote for the man who promised to dismantle the department of education?

The public education system in America is really worrying, had a former lecturer now in the US who complained bitterly some months ago I thought she was exaggerating but the elections just gave credence to all what she said in our conversation. Now you have a president who will dismantle everything kpatakpata. Wishing Americans well in the next years, Una do this one.

kennysville:
For me, let us ditch this useless modern football and start with what really works for us and our Nation. Get proper dribblers not passers of ball. Players who will dribble u flat and clear in tight spaces and free up other players. All I see in the super Eagles is all pace and no brains. They also lack resilience and drive. Almost like losing isnt a big deal. I have said it before and I will say it again!!! This started when a certain bow legged white man came into the fray. Yall know who am talking about. Lets not forget that its still the same set of players from 2015 save a few names.

The team lacks hunger and passion as well as focus. Its time to bring stiff competition into the team as against guaranteeing starts for certain players. We need players who wwill do anything possible to get better than Osimhen in front. Better players than Iwobi. Better wingers than Moses Simon. Players that understand the place of teamwork rather than Self glory hunting.

Naija Super Eagles matter tire me abeg

Na tiki taka people wan see o Abi na sexy football. The ones for documentary purposes 😂

It’s good to see that the republicans will check their Oga in the White House. The world can’t afford too much drama again for the next four years. Those other controversial cabinet picks should be next

Kog45:
Kai na like this BARNSLEY FC come dey popular than MAN CITY 😄for this thread...Nwakali powerful o

haba we no fit reduce vawulence for this thread

maka why?

jedisco:
These things have their peaks and troughs and as I said a while back, the next 2 decades should be interesting as most big economies adress their changing demography.

Good read about Germany. They accepted over a million syrians in 2015 (under assylum but also with the aim of boosting the labour market) and recently, hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians. Now, they have copied the Canadian points based style and looking to fastrack it. The interesting thing is their economy has struggled over the last few years after the Russian invasion- some would have thought this would have been the time to run far away from migrants.

But wait o... are they really looking to issue 200k work visas in 6 weeks?

They have made reforms to shorten the visa process for in demand workers in just few months so all those 9 months of visa processing is not going to make them achieve the number of workers they need urgently.

The funny thing as these nations keep talking about reducing net migration, they leave a door open for many to come in. Watch the uk as health care visas has reduced this year, the regular skilled workers visas has increased from the last stats I saw. Even Canada with all the noise has been doing the Lord’s work this week alone they have invited over a thousand already. Make you wonder what’s all the fuss about sef