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Lexusgs430:
If he got a pure water factory, and receives a nafdac seal for that..... But now uses the sane pure water factory seal for miracle water...... That's simply an illegal change of purpose (I would expect nafdac to sue Jeremiah, and cancel their registration)........

Jeremiah don buy market....... Liborous already offered a pro bono service to vdm....... 😜🤣

not following the matter initially but this one wey e don enter court, it will be interesting to watch now but trust Naija, na settlement out of court go end the matter. I foresee the prophet withdrawing the case make business no enter bush, that's how we roll o.

Porksupplyib:
Buhari will soon come out to share fatherly advice on how to rule the country. Just wait for it. 😆

That will be the sweetest of all, jokers all of them

ReesheesuKnack:
Goke7:
You have no right to ask Zahra29 (or anyone at all) to take their opinion to another platform given that not even 1 single rule was broken.
You want to live in an echo chamber where the only voices & opinions you hear are ones that agree with you? Then Nairaland (and especially this thread) is not for you.

Read all the Nairaland rules and tell me if Zahra29 has broken a single one. I think you should take a chill pill. And if the opinions don’t tally with your views, it is YOU who needs to move.

You sef take a chill na, the nation is still on high alert! You and other veterans here should be telling us how to get help and support in these traumatic times instead of unnecessary debates on who is right or wrong or who causes what!

Joezinho:
I feel favour ofili might be considering switching nationalities but it is not easy as people think it is to switch because it takes about 3 years and means she would miss 2 World Championships, That’s not worth it. And it’s highly unlikely the AFN will aide her in making the switch

Here’s her American LSU coach reposting a fan urging her to make the switch.

I see Nigerians winning medals for other nations and my heart breaks

Lexusgs430:
I love myself too much and know when to remain in my bunker......(my area was riot - free) 😂😜

Unfortunately, this unrest/riot/civil disobedience, is usually time--capsuled..... We should expect another in a few years time....... 😅😜

Yes o just like olympic games every four years 😜

Lexusgs430:
Goke7 Goke7 Goke7........ How many times did I call you.......

Stop seeing things, that doesn't exist...... Or else, I wouid buy you miracle soap to wash your sins away + miracle water to douse your tension....... 😂💦😜🤣

What God can’t do does not exist abi no be so! 😂 Oga Lexus many waters has passed under the bridge this week o hope awon boys no corner you anywhere for under tunnel ejo stay safe o!

hustla:
Yeah, Im on the thread too. Gathered a list of quality lawyers others have used on the thread

hooyou.com
messersmithlaw.com and wegreened appear to be quality ones

Please share pointers if you have and if you would like to do it alone or with a lawyer. Think it's really expensive so I want to try and see if I can figure everything out myself in 6 - 9 months if I can.
Been following this YT channel and he breaks it down into easy ;Dto ;Dunderstand chunks that makes the process a bit less scary (not sure the post won't be hidden cos of the links)

https://youtube.com/@oscarsgreencard?si=rkeAu4MEbvMdKwZv

I will send a DM later in the day

Mr EB2 you no get respect o, una wan turn this thread to US things

chai Uk you do this one! 😂

dupyshoo:
When there is lack of awareness and education, people will always direct their grievances to the wrong people. A lot of Caucasians are misinformed and will continue to see us as the problem unless they are re-educated and made aware of immigrants contributions to the nation.

To make matter worse, all political parties have used "immigration being the problem" to campaign. This is one of the causes.

These are things that have been mentioned here before but the propagandists told us to shut it and be grateful that we're here. The rhetoric in the mainstream media and by the politicians have been the most despicable. If we call African leaders despots, I wonder what we should call the politicians here. Now we are all pretending to be asking for solutions as if we never knew where it started.

same governor has ambition to become president, if he's serious, let him fix it and collect the money later from the FG

ValCon888:
How can you stop at 1980? Even up to the 90s and 2000s these equipment were highly relevant.

You see that cutlass, back in my day we would bend the tip to form a curve so we can cut stubborn grass. Elephant grass was easy to cut but that stubborn grass is truly stubborn. If you hit it your cutlass will bounce.

That metal bucket once caused a ring to form on my scalp because we had to go a very long distance to fetch water.

I have hidden inside that black and red box to hide from a very wicked senior prefect.

Federal Government Colleges of the old days no be beans.

You sef too stubborn when you Dey school as you don cut grass tire as punishment Abi na lie I talk

beardedboy:
Honestly, Nigeria should just add Yoruba, Hausa and Igbo to our official languages. Many countries of the world have two or three and even four official languages.

What about ijaw, Edo, urhobo, igala, igbirra etc. are they not Nigerian languages too, over 300 of them, Una go add tire, just start it first!

This is an inciting statement and it’s stuff like this that causes unrest like we’ve seen in recent days

But when he’s called to account he will start giving excuses and explanations that he didn’t mean what he said.

Treadway:
I, she, Agentxxx are saying that those are some of the underlying reasons that need to be addressed, the underlying reason that have built up resentment over the years, like the two scenarios I shared. That's all.

No be you Grandma dey talk about...and the fact that there is no way to differentiate in the heat of a hostile/volatile situation who is legal/illegal is the part that is scary and fxxxked up...but still shying away from those underlying causes doesn't make the resentment go away. Addressing it head on is/was Zahra's point/proposition, and it is valid....else this almost certainly will still happen again in the near future.

How that one come translate to advocacy for or indifference to the violence me no know🤦‍♂️

is this forum now an advocacy platform for British natives (British white o lest we forget the koko) cos I no understand una again sef.

Treadway:
bros

Why are most still NOT getting the point?

She shared her opinion on the topic, a broad topic, not a dissertation on 'Nairaland living in UK thread as a case study'. Why the angst?🤣

This is not me being agreeable, cos Zahra sef know say we don disagree on some points/subjects.

If you were still in Naija, earning say 150k a month, and you find a horde of Ghanaians or Nigeriens are trooping in unabated and being treated by the FG to hospitality that your 4-months salary can't afford you, and this goes on for an extended period of time, honestly answer yourself, would you harbor some resentment towards those Ghanaians/Nigeriens?

We know the govt is the one that should be challenged and we are not saying that resorting to violence on the Ghanaians/Nigeriens is right, but are you gonna tell me in all honesty that you won't harbor resentment towards those Ghanaians/Nigeriens?

The story of the prodigal son in the Bible, a son stayed and served his father, while the prodigal son went and squandered his inheritance. He came back after hitting rock bottom and daddy took him.backwith open arms, put the finest robe on him and killed the fattest cow to celebrate. All well and good. The story is about love. Now let's add a twist, let's assume the father kept celebrating and partying and spoiling the prodigal son with gifts everyday for years, while not doing anything close to that to the son that stayed,would you as the good senior brother that stayed tell me in all honesty, tell me you won't harbor resentment towards your brother and/or your father?

Inheritance sharing lasan in some families divides them irreparably, some even seeking each others lives. Psquare wey share the same womb sef are literally sworn enemies for the most petty of reasons, much less strangers.

We are talking of human beings here, not angels. The violence is not right, and the govt are the cause we know, but human emotions will override all that, as with the two scenarios I painted up there.

Agentxxx already summed everything up well. That this non-issue still keeps dragging like this shows it's personal jare.

So how can we manage Grandma's emotions in Barnsley bayi, should we all go to Barnsley and beg Grandma that we are sorry for trooping into her country unabated so Grandma can be happy abi wetin be the solution bayi cos I don't still understand how this is our bloody business. You have even mentioned it's Govt business so what's your problem here?

If you want to hear the truth and I mentioned it already, close both the air and sea border but if you can't close it then please channel your grievances to the appropriate quarters e no concern us but if you don't gerrit forget about it. Sounding apologetic can never assuage anybody's feelings in this matter.

Zahra29:
Phew indeed lol. I quoted the evening news segment that was exploring issues in certain communities....their words not mine....and you're still biting my head off.. I think you should direct your anger/ frustration/ emotions at the news station (it was either BBC or Channel 4 News, I can check) and the people they interviewed.

Have a lovely weekend.

their news exploration has no value addition here, kindly take it to the appropriate platform. Thank you

Zahra29:
Thank you Agentxxx. I stated several times (although I thought it went without saying) that I did not support the violence, rioters, racism etc regardless of who it was targeted at, and that I supported swift action against the criminals;

Nothing I mentioned about the festering issues in some communities meant I was justifying their violence, attacks or vandalism (why would I, for crying out loud Worst case they should be protesting against the government, which I also stated)....but as you pointed out to me, my timing and tone was off and I took that on board.

However when people don't like you, they'll allow their emotions and bias to twist everything you say and thus they chose to run with a narrative of "Zahra is coming on a BAME platform to say that the far right thugs are justified to attack black and Asian people. She defends their actions and and she is gleeful about the attacks against black folk" 🙄

Meanwhile on the evening news yesterday, they commented that while it was good news that the riots were subsiding, issues still remained. They didn't say that the issues justified the violence. They then went on to speak to people in Barnsley. A white grandma came on TV to say that she was not far right and that she condemned the violence. She wasn't racist she said - she had mixed race grandchildren, Muslim family members etc. However, she said, "I am very angry about illegal immigrants who are being housed for free and given freebies" (her words).

So as the unrest starts to die down, the media and govt will probably shift to analysing some of these potential issues and it will become apparent if this all happened in a vacuum or if there are lingering concerns in the minds of peaceful Brits. (All the far right criminals will hopefully be in jail).

Anyways moving on lol....

How's it going with your sponsorship renewal now that the occupation code was rectified? All sorted I hope?

You still don't get it and you keep insulting our sensibilities here, what's our damn business here with illegal immigrants who are being housed for free? does the solution lie with either legal or illegal immigrants? How many people here on this thread do you know that were housed for free, please tell us perhaps you have the stats. You're making a case for a people to the wrong audience still your agenda must gend, phew

AbuTwins:
It's shouldn't be a tribal issue!

It seems the elite Igbos are supporting BAT in one way or the other!

Next election may have Igbos supporting BAT than they did before!

when they are benefiting a lot already, why won't they? Do you think the protests not held in the SE were for nothing?

LionInZion:
If we can't call a spade a spade, and keep rigmaroling and being politically correct in the face of sheer anarchy, especially the one targeted directly at us, then I wonder where our dignity and courage lie!

All these started with verbal attacks, deliberate and coordinated misinformation in the media, an agenda to direct all blames on migrants, by the likes of Suella Braverman.

Some of us saw the imminent resultant effects. We knew it would one day lead to what we've witnessed in the past days. We shouted against it but some usual suspects here would rather shush us up and subtly guit-trip us for being a burden on the system and the natives. I remember figuratively saying then that if we allowed such narratives to go on unchecked, one day we'd have our fundamental human rights stripped from us, be told we need permissions of the natives to make love etc, and people would still defend such. But to some people, we were being irrational and unable to hold a 'balanced view'.

Sorry but I'm not sorry for being personal in a matter that's personal to me. I worked in one of the immigration law offices being circulated for attacks and read how terrified old colleagues were for those days. How about acid attack, chainsaw attack, arson etc.

If in the face of all these we fail to vehemently and directly condemn the act without such undertone nuances of 'deprivation', then I wonder what we stand for.

No it's not only the timing that's wrong. Beyond timing, the temerity to either subtly or boldly blame such heinous act on deprivation and a repeated attempt to sell it to us, the direct victims of it, is what I won't take.

Imagine for once going to Southport community and saying to people, 'You know I sympathise with you for your loss, but remember the murderer did what he did because he was deprived of parental love and suffered domestic abuse........' Just imagine how that would sound. Yea, that's exactly what some views on this thread have been.

You hit the nail on the head, but as usual, we don't want to hear the truth on this thread. Political correctness and cowardice are our bane as immigrants.

As this is a forum where we share information, just a piece of advice for all those who are still on BRP and whose visa validity still extends beyond this year, all BRPs will expire by the end of this year please make sure you have a UKVI account where you easily generate your share code to prove your right to work, rent bla bla bla.

From what I gathered a few months ago at my workplace, another form of Windrush scandal wave may be brewing for next year, especially for those who did all their paperwork with lawyers and agents who opened ukvi accounts on their behalf, they may find it difficult to prove the right to work shit and may see themselves not been able to access regular services. For those of us who like to travel in and out of the country please avoid it early next year till the govt sort out themselves as they finally transit to a fully digitalised platform in terms of immigration services.

Remember you live in a country that never forgives! cheers

AgentXxx:
We have agreement on some things just in case you are doubting. Yes, it is terrorism and attempt to murder people, it is not acceptable, they should be severely punished and jailed. Immigrants/Asylum seekers are not the cause of their problem.

Now let’s get back to the question. What should the government do to permanently resolve this? Or you think it would end with just jailing some thugs?

You really want a permanent solution? Close all air and sea borders but if you can’t there is no solution actually for as long as you have politicians running the country.

justwise:
I;m totally with you on this, i got no prob with Zahra's view on this but i have prob with the timing.

Let me also say this for a record, we need people that see things differently like Zahra and put it out without personal attack.

I think you were away then but you need to see how Oga Lexus was dragged like Shege on this thread because of the rent money is a dead money issue, it took days before people came to his rescue even missjekyll has been dragged for seeing things differently too and I can't remember anyone coming to her defence, unless we are beginning to have different rules here for other people—just an observation.

jedisco:
Thank you for this, I find it soul destroying when I see black folks take a guilty look when migration is discussed. Despite the fact that a miniscule number of Africans have ever left their abode, it's somehow made out that moving around is a privilege to us but a right to others

Like I said previously, the more I know about human history, the more unapologetic I become about migration. Reminds me of a chat I had with a white British folk at my workplace. Chap was trying to insinuate a grand plan to get people from Africa into the US. (I.e illegal migration). I told him that being British, he should more than everyone else know migration is as old as man. You don't like my presence, too bad, I don't care.

To Gerard who talked about deporting 2nd gen... like I asked, how far back do we go? Should Australia/U.S or Cad start deporting White folks back to Europe?

don't blame folks that much, It's the cheap propaganda that's always been pushed now and then to make folks lose their confidence and feel guilty for offences they will never commit. Just imagine all the bunkum stories of deprivation of communities we've been fed here as if we are the ones looting money in their govt treasury to deny them basic amenities. To them, immigrants are the ones committing crimes, the natives are all saints marching to heaven while asylum seekers, immigrant students, and workers are all sinners going to hell.

hustla:
My exact issue with them at the time and now.. Even Trump that has a large mouth largely classified and mentioned illegal immigrants, never attacked students or constantly ridiculed them in the media

Forking out thousands of pounds, shuffling school and work, taking care of their own elderly, paying taxes through the nose and all we get is insults in the media

O wrong naw!

The propagandists will soon be here to remind us why we no kuku stay naija say we force us come, omo I don tire at this stage, don’t even give a damn any longer. Am even ready if they wan chase everyone out. Bunch of hostile cowards!

You guys thought you’re doing the president and bullying the rest of the country na

Some people just want to use the hunger protest to settle scores. It was never about hunger

Goodenoch:
She has apologised and said she acted on 'false and malicious information' - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1jll3eg33wo
That's what every one of them says and to be fair it's likely true.

The biggest lesson I've learned from these riots is that the rhetoric around migration is often more important than the reality. It has been humbling for me because I see now that many of my previous positions were utterly wrong. I used to think I cared little about what nonsense the latest politician wanting to make their right-wing bones said as long as I was continuing to do great work and thrive in the country (for which I appreciate the country), but it's clear now that all that talk didn't end at the microphones, and it has now empowered ignoramuses to take up knives, acid, blocks etc to attack people like me at random.

The conservatives might have liberalized many migration routes, but their rhetoric around it was constantly villifying immigrants, and that has a much greater impact as we're seeing now.

They had all the opportunity to close down routes or make them stricter and people would simply not have come anymore if it wasn't suitable for them anymore. There's no human rights obligations to have skilled worker routes or lower threshholds for care workers and all the other things they did. They left those routes open because it was beneficial to the country, and would even sponsor British Council events abroad inviting people to come study/work in the country, but would turn arround and somehow find a way to link everything that went wrong under them to immigrants, legal or otherwise.

You have won my respect and am more humbled reading this. I recently visited a Caribbean country, and my views on many things too started changing. All I have learned in all of this is about humanity, if you fight humanity whether you're far right or far left humanity will fight back and resist you. Cheers

Samirana360:
Hope this protest will stop after 10th August

when they said days of rage, do you think they were joking? we warned but they said they had the right to protest!

missjekyll:
I see. Anyone who expresses an opinion should be ready to defend their position and take all the smoke associated with it. That goes for you too

Not a single one of those comments made a physical threat against her.

May I suggest that you take her aside (as her friend and supporter) and advice her that not every argument is good for "devil's advocate" .

I m typing this from my home/bunker where I m currently holed up in terror. Forgive me for my lack of patience with "devil's advocates".

I think you’re even the most smoked person here in recent times due to some historical stuff it was claimed you had stood on, no one even came out to defend you or say you could be harmed physically. May God forgive the hypocrisy on this thread. You’re even the only one I read trying to offer specialised support and advice on how folks who may have been impacted during this crisis can reach out and get help. Thank you so much for this. Cheers.

And for those who keep reminding us that it’s because we are here is the reason some people are deprived, I think it’s high time you guys realise that politicians are the same everywhere as they steal from the treasury and hold people down in poverty and lied to them on who to hold responsible if you can understand that better your views on matters like this will change and be more refined.

hustla:
I remember being on this thread, ranting about how immigrants, especially legal immigrants like students are portrayed by the English media...

I also remember some people here defending their racist actions and portrayal of immigrants, same people who now would be afraid to go out due to the anti immigrant protests going on right now

I hope we can all see that no matter the spree spree English you speak with your nose and the government you defend cos you feel you're now part of them, you're still black and a bloody immigrant at the end of the day

Light n*gga, dark n*gga, faux n*gga, real n*gga
Rich n*gga, poor n*gga , house n*gga, field n*gga..
... Still n*gga

I remember warning then that when it comes to immigration policies, there was no segmentation and that everyone was placed inside the same bucket whether you came via boat, plane, or through the forest. Good to hear from you again hustla, keep safe dear!

wonders

Nodogragra4me:
Dangote came into a business he had never been involved in with his own template from his cement business .. use government connections to muscle others out and be the all in all .....why did he reckon he was going to he both producer , distributor and retailer ?



What does he expect others to do with their facilities when he added gantry for trucks loading?


So all trucks in Nigeria should come to his lekki based depot for product or what ?


These guys wanted to patronised him ..they paid for his AGO which is substandard way and above the price he was selling to international buyers ..for each ton he was charging 50 dollar more than he was charging outsiders and somebody's says he is a good man that loves his country ...calculate and convert 15000 metric ton by 50 dollar and see the difference he is taking off vessels that comes to load from his facility

@ the bolded, no serious country will allow this.

DOM7:
the Yoruba IG will not hear you till thy kingdom come.

Sometimes people don’t get it. At least no one will accuse the lawmakers for not standing up for their people when the matter came up. That’s the goal