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Joebie:
That’s how many people still believed Mou killed Mikel’s game. Today Mikel is arguably a legend. Time will tell.

Dont you think Mikel would have done much more better than he did if he developed his game more than being Chelsea's water carrier?

TheGoodJoe:
Giniko.

You said Nacho can not win ball in the air. At the end your opening whoscored to argue what you do not know. I clearly pointed a game I watched Nacho won the ball in the air.

As you can see, you are arguing what you do not watch. Just reading stats and claiming.

In more than 3yrs of football you can only recall one incident and you're running away singing praises that he is good with aerial balls.
What would I have used to buttress my point if not his actual aerial stats?
Maybe you I should have mentioned the countless number of times he lost aerial balls directed at him against South Africa and recently against Argentina.

jihday:
bros this is the height you are no more a critic but a hater. like icon4s said, if they had won Argentina and even France you go talk say those ones no good

So I hate Uzoho too? Lol.. I'm sorry to say this but I'm not easily impressionable.
The Messi free kick didn't require a miracle save since it was placed on the keepers safe spot not round the wall.

jihday:
The fact is that you are trying to say that Morocco was better than Nigeria without any tangible evidence, according to you 1 pt is greater than 3pts.

We have 3 points but they played the better football against top oppositions.
Playing a decent 45mins against the Icelands of this world doesn't represent progress in my candid opinion.

TheGoodJoe:

If you have not seen, I will easily tell you. Manchester City vs Manchester United derby under Guardiola that Iheanacho started. Kevin De Bruyne's goal came after Nacho made a good leap, nodding the ball towards the opposition goal, then de Bruyne stole the ball and buried it.

In the entire season his average aerial battles won stands at 0.3....
If 0.3 to you means good in aerials, then we give it a rest.

TheGoodJoe:
What are you talking earn in an offensive set-up. It takes joining a club with an offensive manager/history or an offensive manager joining the team. The manager during his screening process or his squad looking for players to suit his system Picks players who fit in.

When they try the players and give them a run, if they fit in, they excel.

Nothing like earn a run. Ke.

A player must be doing something to convince a club that he is better than what they have and deserves to start.

Joebie:
Did he perform well towards the end of last season? Yes or no? Look at the bright side and wish the player well.

Even at Man city when he was tapping in the goals, I wasn't convinced. Something about his game just doesn't feel right. I've said it before, I think Pelegrini killed that boy's game by converting him to a standing striker.

TheGoodJoe:
I wonder where I wrote FREE.

He has to earn that run in an offensive set up.

BascoVanVeli:
That one na lie. Nacho is good in the air. All this una talk will be put on mute when the season starts. Only in Nigeria that a poor run of games or even one bad game means your life is over.

Seriously, you have seen Kelechi out jump defenders and win headers?
Can you backup your opinion with stats and data?

Joebie:
This your tone get as e be o. You can only speak of truth in respect to his past and present performance. About the future, you cannot sound like that, especially as it has to do with somebody’s career for that matter.

However, I thought the boy did well towards the end of the past EPL season. Why are you sounding like this?

From what you have seen from him over the past 2years, can you honestly tell me you can see an upside to his game? The guy has no clear defined role at his age.
I mean, he's neither a striker, not a midfielder nor winger. I wish I can sound more positive but I honestly cannot find anything to hold on to.

TheGoodJoe:
You are free to make your opinion. I did not say West Ham but I will judge Iheanacho after he gets a run in an offensive system. Is that too difficult to comprehend? All you are writing here does not scrape the tip of my point.

If you want to judge Iheanacho now with what you are seeing, you are free.

I want to see Nacho get a run in an offensive system before judging him.

Gerrit?

You think I will do badly if you gave me a free run in an offensive set-up?
Come on, nobody will give Kelechi a free run when he hasn't earned it.

TheGoodJoe:

Forgiveness pulled out stats of Musa contributing more defensively than Iheanacho in the match against Iceland. What do you think sparked that? It is me talking about the work Iheanacho did defensively. Now you are saying it is a new one I brought after Argentina game.
Na wa.

The fact remains Kelechi has regressed and the harsh truth is that there's no silver lining on sight. He plateaued back in 2013 and even at Westham, no serious coach will bench Lanzini, Anderson, Chikarito or a fit Andy Carol for him.
He might be playing lower league footie in no distant time. I hate to say it, but that's the harsh truth.

MetalJigsaw:
Who does that

Can Nacho dribble?

Does he have pace?

Is he mobile?

Can he play as lone striker?

What about stamina?

After the Argentina game, the guy has ultimately proved to us the reason why his career isn't progressing; And he's been ridiculously over hyped; And why he's a constant bench warmer at a mid-table club in the EPL.

And he can't jump.

TheGoodJoe:
The funny thing is that you are not a stranger on this thread and I have not changed my stance on Nacho. How you decided to make it my new Sales pitch shows the length you will go to sell a lie. My pressing, defending and mobility have not changed.

The truth is that you have watched that first half again and seen I was saying the truth. Now you are trying to create a deceptive narrative.

After the South Africa game, you said he was moving and pressing but didn't get the ball. Against Argentina you said he chasing defenders well, you highlighted a flash point where he pursed a defender into the Nigerian half.
For me, that's a new one.

jihday:
oh, now I understand, no need to drag it infact Panama go beat Nigeria

We couldn't beat them with a better team in 2014. Remember?

eterisan:
I have given up on TheGoodJoe especially. He will see black and call it white. So now his excuse for Nacho is that he is not playing under pellegrini and in a system that suits him. Hmmmmm, we should just bring pellegrini to coach the super eagles then.

So Mbappe is playing under the coach that gave him is breakthrough at Monaco that why he's scoring... I give up on TheGoodJoe... I really do.

His new sales pitch is that Kelechi runs and tracks down defenders like no other.

edi287:
Please let no one ever compare Iheanacho to Mbappe again. Let it end today.

I gave up on this thread the day they made a fist of this argument.

Icon4s:
Is that how he will be jumping from club to club looking for a system that suits him? ,Must the system always be the one to just adjust to his style? Can't he also adjust to a system. Play-play play-play he go clock 30 you go still dey look for a system that suit him, before you can judge him. That boy was overhyped that is the plain bitter truth.

You would have tagged me with something unpleasant if I was responsible for this statement.

Icon4s:
Just like fact of you rating Morocco as Africa's best is totally baseless and pointless.

I actually rate them second best behind Senegal because they played progressive football which neutrals like me find remarkable.

ChrisKels:
The Key word is "off season" every other thing u are attaching to it is a fabrication. Using ur offseason for something meaningful because of where u coming from doesn't make u a part time professional bro.

U got it all wrong is this one

OK let me rephrase, he is a footballer/factory worker.
Hope I got it right this time?

forgiveness:
It was. Give it to the boy.

I could have saved that shot bro.

Icon4s:
The draws were made since late last year and you never mentioned a single word about they being semi-professionals. I am sure you even tipped them to beat Nigeria.

To you any team Nigeria beats are a piss team.

Talking about parking buses, every team has a strategy that works for them. After all defending is also part of the game.

I am sure if Nigeria had won this World Cup you would have called other nations that took part semi-professionals.

You're throwing your toys out of the pram by making these baseless allegations. If I challenge you to show me where I said that Iceland will beat Nigeria you will start dilly dalying.
The fact of the matter is that you trying to pass Nigeria as the second best African side based on the evidence that they defeated Island is a bad sales pitch man. When they played real footballers, they were pants.
My apologies for not mincing words.

tglobal:
There's nothing in this article that suggests he is a part time footballer

A guy who works in the off season in a salt packing factory is a professional player?
Even Ezenwa does not work in a factory during the NFL off season.

Icon4s:
I also like being candid in my opinions. Did you watch Iceland in the last Euros? This was a team that beat England in the 2nd round and narrowly lost to France in the quarter final. And I hope you know Iceland toped their 2018 WCQ group ahead of Croatia? I was even being fair equating them with Japan.

I say again, learn to to appreciate your own. You are trying hard to dwarfen Iceland only because they lost to Nigeria. Oga, change this your mindset.

I watched them at the Euros and they were pretty tasteless. They always had 9 men behind the ball and relied on set pieces because they lack the talents to go toe to toe with anyone.
Their captain admitted as much that they frustrated the life out of teams by parking the bus during the qualifiers because they lacked personnel to play real football.
I choose not to rate a team of semi professionals ahead of a traditional world cup team and continental champions. It's a travesty for Nigeria to celebrate defeating the Icelands of this world. How the mighty have fallen.

Icon4s:
You, change your mindset about not seeing any thing good in your own.

Is it by Population? Then China and India would be wining the World Cup back to back.

That Argentine team is better than the Colombian Team. Take that to the bank tell them I sent you.

Sorry to say, but I like being candid. There's no where in world you can convince me that Iceland is better than Japan.
Please let's turn a leaf and stop these half truths, it won't get us anywhere. Look at one of the Iceland defenders, the young man worked in a Salt packing factory prior to the world cup, their number 8 is a bar attendant, this much was revealed by a comentator during their match against Argentina, about 4 others are medical doctors. Their goalkeeper Hannes is a professional film maker. I can go on and on...

I was ashamed being a Nigerian when people were going wild with jubilation after beating these guys. Beating these guys should be routine. Their famous results against England, Argentina and the likes is just the case of when a dog bites a man and when a man bites a dog...

Lastly, Colombia looks a better team and in better shape than Argentina in this tournament at least. Recently, Colombia defeated France in Paris, I will eagerly await the result of France Argentina to compare notes.

ChrisKels:
Then that makes his positional and organisational sense top notch something Enyeama couldnt do in 2014 against same Messi. Something a tall Degea couldn't do against CR7

Please Uzoho cannot be compared to Enyeama yet. Under no circumstance must there be this comparism for now.
I recall Enyeama saved more than 8 shots from Messi similar to the one that beat Uzoho back in 2010. Uzoho still has a long way to go.

forgiveness:
Tomorrow, some people will claim he didn't contact us before he plays for Germany or becomes another Alaba. Paul Aigbogun should please invite him for the U20 first and Rohr should give him a call too.


Evidence: Bundesliga Teen Star Deji Begged Ex U17 Coach Amunike To Invite Him In 2015

October 28, 2017
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Former coach of the Nigeria U17 team Emmanuel Amunike snubbed Eintracht Frankfurt enterprising German-Nigerian left full back Deji-Ousman Beyreuther from his U17 squad of 2015.

Owngoalnigeria.com has in it possession, the text of the letter written by the 18 year old who has broken into the first team of the Bundesliga side and made the bench in their 1-1 draw against Mainz 05 ‎pleading to be given a chance.

However his plea fell on deaf ears as the coach didn’t reply his message as he settled for other players who helped him win the U-17 World Cup in 2015.

Deji-Ousman is still keen on playing for Nigeria particularly as he is a left back, one area where Nigeria are currently shopping for more options as Elderson Echiejile is the only recognised left back available to coach Gernot Rohr.

See text of the letter written in 2015 in next paragraph.

Hello.
My name is Deji Ousman Beyreuther.
I was born in Göttingen and played for Sparta Göttingen. Then i moved to Hannover and played for Tsv pattensen.

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My Trainer was Stefan Mertesacker, father of per mertesacker(german national player). Next i moved to Frankfurt because family reasons. Now i play for the Bundesligaclub Fsv Frankfurt. I was born on the 06.09.1999 and play for the u17 squad.

I think its the right time for the national team. My mother Heike Beyreuther is German and my father Lukman Oladimeji is Nigerian.

I would like to participate in the Nigerian national team and not the German because i love the Culture, the passion on the Field and my motivation is my uncle Mohammed Oladimeji Lawal who also played for the national team.

I am actually a defensive middlefielder but play left defender and feel more confident on this Position as i played there this season in which we successfully finished on the 1. place. I weigh 65 kilogram and I am 1,78 tall.

My strong foot is the left one but have almost the same qualities in pass and dribble and skill with the right. My role is as an offensive left defender who supports the offense with dangerous crosses and direct longshots.

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In my first season at Fsv Frankfurt i became captain because I give commandos and support my team to lead to success. I follow every match of the golden eaglets and think that my abilities will support this team.

I hope to hear from you soon,
kind regards,
Deji Ousman Beyreuther.

http://owngoalnigeria.com/2017/10/28/evidence-bundesliga-teen-star-deji-begged-ex-u17-coach-amunike-to-invite-him-in-2015/

The boy wrote this on the comment section of complete sports news article. In as much as I acknowledge the forthright with his desire to play for Nigeria, I don't think commenting on sports websites is enough to bring attention of the coach.
There's usually an open screening of players for the u17's. A guy like Isaac success slept outside the team camp in Calabar till he was given a chance to play and the rest is history. Nduka Ugbade has almost identical story with Isaac Success as he didn't leave the U16 camp till he was given a chance to play when someone got injured.

See, I understand the Nigerian psyche and lust for players born in Europe, but truth is that in this case, Deji didn't come to the open camp and was denied entrance or participation. Introducing himself on the internet is not enough.

Fadiga24:
Uzoho tipped Messi's free kick to the bar, hope you watched the match

It wasn't an exceptional save Oga. Under no circumstance should a keeper be beaten on the side of the post he covers in a free kick.

Fadiga24:
An Ezenwa in goal would have conceded three or four

We were totally overwhelmed in the game even the coach was caught ball watching

How? Uzoho didn't make any outstanding save that Ezenwa couldn't have made. Let's call a spade a spade, Ezenwa's time wasting antics was exactly needed in the last 10 mins of that Argentine game.

jihday:
stop making a case for Morocco, they couldn't at least draw Iran and don't talk about Iceland like they are one ragtag team because Iceland are ranked higher than Iran

After watching Iran against Spain and Portugal, you still think they are a poor side? Iran have proved to be one the most difficult and hard to beat teams in world cups in recent times. Nigeria wouldn't have beaten Iran, I can bet my house on that.

Icon4s:
Croatia> Poland.
Argentina > Colombia.
Iceland=Japan

We were in a tougher group.

But like I said, the most important criteria to use here are the results obtained from the group. And not just strength of the opposition.

So based on this Senegal is ahead of Nigeria. And there is no way you will say Morocco is ahead of us. Cos they only drew 1 game.

Remove your partisan shades for a moment. How can you suggest Japan and Island with their 300k population are equals? Do you know Japan have qualified for the 2nd round of every world cup attended since 2002 with the exception of 2006? Currently the Asian champions. People have made the mistake of overrating Island because of a few famous results they earned playing 9 men behind the ball.

Secondly, I would rate this Colombia side ahead of a disorganized Argentine side coached by Messi. They play the better and more organized football.

I agree Croatia is better than Poland,with hindsight of course, judging by the lofty ranking of Poland who were even seeded in pot 1,one would have thought they had a crack team.

jihday:
Nigeria played some decent football but conceded some stupid goals Nigeria played some decent football but conceded some stupid goals

Nigeria played only 45 mins of decent football and that was the 2nd half of the game against Iceland. The rest was nothing to write home about. I stand to be corrected.