malvisguy212:
that is why I say, its beyond yourr knowledge, your canal mind cannot understand. When the verse say " SIGN BETWEEN ME AND THE CHILDREN OF ISREAL " what is the significant of it ? Is a forestshadowing event of how we will enter God rest. Spiritual things are difficult for you muslims to understand because muhammed himself couldn't discern it.

Still waiting for my unanswered questions to be answered.

Hehehe! funny christians!!

After being thrashed with the meaning of the Hebrew word, you try to device another escape means. But you'll keep shooting yourself, and keep sulking over the blasphemy your book has put you through. I'm so sorry for you brother, may Allah help you. You and your people resolve to spiritual explanations you yourselves don't get to understand ever! Then, What is the relationship between 'rest and refreshed'? O tu n p'aro.

All the questions you've asked has been answered by me and you've been directed to open another thread for further questions aside the one here. Thanks.

OLAJADON:

i think you wasting your time trying to convince him, i tried it it was to no avail
just leave him let him walk to hell if he wants... i pray he does not regret it on the day of questioning.

Lol... I understand my dear brother, but people have doubts and part of our responsibilities is to rescue them. Let me enlighten him till I also feel I'm tired. Probably, he might not have heard some of these things before and then, maybe he'll understand better. Imaging he doesn't know they are quilty of what the prophet pbuh cursed them of doing.

malvisguy212:
I said check the Hebrew word for rest. The Hebrew word, shabath, translated "rest" does not really refer to a requirement to sleep or take a break due to weariness. see Brown-Driver-Briggs' Hebrew Definitions
NASB
H7673a. shabath, [991d]; a prim. root;
to cease, desist, rest:-- brought to an
end (1), cease (21), ceased (7), ceases
(3), did away (2), disappear (1), do
away (1), eliminate (3), gone (1), hear
no more (1), lacking (1), left without
(1), made an end (1), make an end (1),
observe (2), put a stop (3), put an end
(3), puts an end (1), remove (2),
removed (1), rest (4), rested (3),
silence (1), stop (2), stopped (1).

I know this teaching is bigger than your understanding, I will just enlightened you for the purpose of the viewers.

Exodus,Chatper 31, Verse 17...
It is a SIGN BETWEEN ME AND THE CHILDREN OF ISREAL for ever: for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed. .

One of the main purpose of creation is the Sabbath (DAY OF REST) so God's people can break from the routine of work to contemplate God. Jesus said
the Sabbath was made for man, and NOT man for the Sabbath

Mark 2:27
27 Jesus said to them, “The Sabbath
was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath.

So,the Sabbath does not celebrate God's
creation, but celebrates God Himself. The Sabbath is a preview of heaven, when we will forever enter into God's rest. That is why the verse say " SIGN BETWEEN ME AND THE CHILDREN OF ISREAL " So, the author of Hebrews encourages us to enter into God's rest rather than falling into disobedience.

If your canal mind do not understand this bible study, open minded people will. So back to topic. Before I created this thread, I created double of this thread, one in the main religion board and one here, view it and see the answer to your muslims brother compear it with your trash.
https://www.nairaland.com/2674986/did-muhammed-curse-muslims

See brother your gibberish can only fool gullible christians, not me, a Muslim rightly guided by Islam and also a student of comparative religion.

Let me school you a bit brother before you spew trash here;

First is, sabbath as you have mentioned is used in terms of days. What is that day meant for? Rest! My brother, rest. In Christianity, this is in line with the fact that man is in God's image, man also rests like He did. Why are you lying brother?

Second is, when a word has different meaning, you choose the meaning that best suits that particular sentence or situation. From your dictionary meaning, the word 'rest' is still part of it and you're still blabbering. Which phrase of all that you listed goes well with the word 'refresh'? It is rest that makes you refreshed my brother, don't lie.
. Your book has put you in serious trouble, won't you turn to the truth? The more you see people to try to put you through, the more trouble you'll have facing Allah, the Lord of the world's. Turn to the truth and it shall set you free.

LUKINGUY:
Check the two picture carefully. These two pictures are not right to be compared. One is accompanied with EFCC the other is accompanied with Prison Warders. For wailing sake you never brought us dasuki picture with the prison warder but an old pic when he was still at EFCC custody or rather compare when Olisa Metu was at EFCC custody. We know your motive that you want to be another ethnic confusion but you have failed. If you re found wanting you would be treated worst than that .

Don't mind them jare.

Let's say it is different treatment as they have shown us. Dasuki was a gentle man. He was accused and then he complied and started talking immediately, so he deserves to be treated gently.

Our METUHselah on the other side, first vowed not to return the money, argued with the operatives and even destroyed his statement and tried to chew it. He should be put in guantanamo. Person wey thief the billions sef no cry.

malvisguy212:
NO, you have canal knowledge of God word, God did not rest, He cease to create, that what the text say , check the Hebrew meaning before saying trash. Before the world began, God has design His plan of salvation.

Sorry I didn't see this before now... But why are you lying again my brother? It's okay to be ashamed of the mess your religion put you into, but don't degrade yourself by lying again.

The Bible says in the Book of Exodus, Chatper
31, Verse 17...

It is a sign between me and the children of
Israel for ever: for in six days the LORD made
heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he
rested, and was refreshed. .

This is your bible saying the trash, but you attribute it to me. Okay you can remind your 419 bible reviewers to change it.... Lol

malvisguy212:
and muhammed is the ONLY prophet that did not live up to what he preach , yet you neglect reality and chose to be ignorance.

Stop crying over spilt milk here. If you want to argue that, open another thread. Your claim here has been defiled... Lol

Suffer no good o... Chai! See as the guy con be like METUHselah!!!!

malvisguy212:
you are the one that are making fool of your self. Read the bible and tell me were christians are guilty of muhammed accusations. Don't go and copy outside source .

lol.... Your church has refused to open your eyes to the outside source because of their personal pockets. I hope you're wise enough to learn from that outside source and seek the truth! Lol

malvisguy212:
if I accused you of something, you will have to provide evidence from my book that I did it, so were in the bible that christians and Jews are guilty of this accusations?

Will you stop making a joke out of yourselves? Is it Muslims that are guilty of the ones I sent to you? Are they not Christians? You Christians don't need scriptures to commit atrocities do you? You celebrate Christmas, especially on an Idol worship day. Did you use the scripture? Where did the bible ask you to celebrate Christmas? Likewise, your popes don't need the scripture to commit this accusations. Even homo acts, your bishops don't look at the scriptures before practising and endorsing it. Haha....

Don't whine about the deep poo your religion put you, you can seek the truth and it will definitely set you free. Peace out bro

malvisguy212:
you must be joking, right ?it is either you or muhammed don't understand the office of prophet and pope. And were in the bible it encourage such acts ? Were did muhammed got the information from that christians and Jews commit such acts ?

Leave this matter if you can't defend it now! Chai! Lol...

Prophet Muhammad S. A. W, did not mention that your scripture preaches that,but as you and I know, you Christians have engaged in acts in which the bible never prescribed to you. It is that particular act that your church and the popes perpetrate, that he condemned and war Muslims against it.

So you want to start classifying popes and prophets? You're very funny my brother... Hahaha

malvisguy212:
what kind of example ? Provide it let us see.

Now you are talking.... Read for yourself bro

http://ivarfjeld.com/2013/07/24/dead-pope-kept-in-open-air-after-earthquake/

malvisguy212:
what So what you quote was not a hadith but an explanation of the hadith the op quote ? Wow, I don't know what to say, that explanation (someone opinion) was invalid because their was no source (proof) were the christians and Jews worship at dead prophet tomb. Anyway thank you for your effort, I appreciate your effort of trying to cover a lie.

I asked you to seek for an example and I will gladly provide, but you are scared so I don't expose you... Lol

Maybe you already have one in mind sef. Hahaha. Funny Christians.

malvisguy212:
listen! The penalty of sin are not paid by us, it is God Himself who reconcile us to Himself, "be perfect" name ONE person the law has made him to be perfect, you cannot decide for God , God does, and the only way is the remission of sin.

John 1:29
"The lamb of God Who takes away
the sins of the world"

God created a perfect world and placed the first humans, Adam and Eve in it, telling them they could eat anything except the fruit of "the tree of the knowledge of good and evil," warning them that if they ate it "you will surely die," and what happened? Adam and Eve disobeyed God and ate the "forbidden fruit," and death entered the world through this first sin, with Adam and Eve, and all humans since then dying.Under the Old Covenant, the Jews of that time sacrificed animals, seeking
to atone ("become reconciled to the God their sin had separated and alienated them from", but this didn't cure the problem, the human problem being the problem of the human heart, the Old Testament saying,

Jeremiah 17:9
"The human heart is the most deceitful of all things, and desperately wicked. Who really knows how bad it is?

So God instituted a new Covenant by
sending His dearly loved Son Jesus, to
be the sinners all-sufficient Saviour,
by dying a hideous death by crucifixion, and as He said He would, He "did death to death" by rising to eternal life from the dead, that eternal life being promised to all who will trust Him to give it to them. So, the death that Adam, the first man, brought into the world, has been defeated by Jesus, who the New Testament of the Bible figuratively
refers to as "the second or the last Adam," this second or last Adam bringing life to those who trust Him,

That is the problem with Christianity. The concept of God is so human, that you Bible thinks God rested and got refreshed, that He is in human image, that He was fought and won, and that He created human without knowing the implications of doing so. See, the prophet told us, in his hadith that before God created the world, He already placed His mercy over his wrath. God never regrets, like the bible tells you. He knows human will sin and He already made laws and ways for forgiveness.

Another pro blew is that apart from the fallacies of the Bible, the church itself have fabricated some innovated doctrines that was not found in the bible. Paul actually saw to that part and passed it on. The true disciples of Jesus, Matthew, Mark, luke, John, never mentioned to us that Jesus would die for humans sins, despite that they were his disciples at that period. Paul fabricated that part and I'll be glad if you can show me where Jesus unambiguously said he came to die for our sins. Tell me also where he asked us to accept him as our Lord and saviour.

malvisguy212:
alright, let me put it this way, how do you know the christians and Jews build temple at dead prophet tomb ? Because the hadith say so ?

What is the name of the hadith ?

I gave you a narration attesting to the fact and I hope you read it well. That which you quoted is from sahih bukhari and the narration I sent you is an explanation of the hadith, the reason why the act is bad. The narration has confirmed that it is true. So tell me what you want asides that. Ask for an a traceable example, I'll gladly give you one.

malvisguy212:
you fail woefully, you cannot bring proved from the hadith or quran ,NO one will take you serious. bring proof from the scripture that indicate muhammed accusing the Jews and christians were true. What is the name of that hadith ?

You quoted from an hadith and you want a proof from an hadith again? What am I doing here? Lol... You wanted a proof that Christians practise this acts and I gave you a narration. But you want what again?

You're very funny my brother... Lol...

malvisguy212:
why are you ignoring my question ? Did muhammed lie ? Bring proof, were did he got the idea from ?

`Aa`ishah tells us that Um Salamah
informed her that she had told the
Prophet about a church in Abyssinia
which she saw when she migrated there
with her husband in which there were
images. The Prophet then explained to
her the significance of what she had
seen: That the Christians, when a pious
man from among them died, would build
an edifice over his grave and place his
image in it in order to remember him and
be inspired by his piety; and he added
that these people were the worst of
people in the sight of Allah because they
had combined two sins: (i) The sin of
building over graves which may lead
eventually to the worship of their
occupants; and (ii) the sin of making
images of living creatures which may also
lead to worship of those images when the
original purpose of their making has been
forgotten.

As you can see from the text above, it was a confirmed fact, that Christians and Jews. Make your findings before in truth and open mind, and don't lie if it is true. Or I'll give you an example incase you don't know.

malvisguy212:
the bible say God is HOLY and perfect His he, the bible also say "be ye Holy,for I am Holy. Now ,uptil the days of the prophets TILL now, has anyone ever boast that through keeping of the law, he his perfect and Holy ? God made it very clear, before Adam's first sin, that the consequence of sin is
death (spiritual death) , and that is repeated throughout the Bible, because of the sinful choice that Adam made.


Romans 5:12
"sin entered into the world, and
death by sin; and so death passed
upon all men, for that all have
sinned:"

The life of a man is in His blood. it being estimated that in the 1,000 years of the old covenant, one million animal sacrifices were made, and why? What
does the Old Testament Scripture say?

Leviticus 17:11
"For the LIFE OF THE BODY IS IN ITS
BLOOD. I have given you the blood
on the altar to purify you, making
you right with the Lord. It is the
blood, given in exchange for a life,
that makes purification possible."

if animal sacrifices could take away sin, why did they have to be repeated again and again and again ?

Hebrews 10:3
"But those sacrifices are an annual
reminder of sins, because it is
impossible for the blood of bulls
and goats to take away sins."

God will not just ignored sin and take it unserious, just forgiving it without penalty" which would compromise His own holiness.

Yes, the old requirement about the priesthood was set aside because it was weak and useless. For the law never made anything perfect. But now we have confidence in a better hope, through which we draw near to God… There were many priests under the old system, for death prevented them from
remaining in office. But because Jesus lives forever, His priesthood lasts forever. Therefore He is able, once and forever, to save those who come to God through Him. He lives forever to intercede with God on their behalf.

This is not logical brother. So out of other penalties of registering the seriousness of sin, it is a man that has to die. This is what the church preaches to make sin and forgiveness look like that easy.

But no matter how you paint it, it still doesn't make sense. The concept of forgiveness is when you forgo an incident without taking punishments or sacrifices. God is more loving than that and at the same time, fire in punishment. Anything sense of forgiveness, requiring more than that is not forgiveness actually.

And the is why there are laws. Laws which Jesus himself claimed not to have come to erase, but to fulfil. In the ancient romantic empire, which was ruled by popes and bishops, the Christian government have not forgiven people based on the blood of christ. Sins were punished as regards to the Christian laws. So where is was the blood of christ? Stop living in deceit.

Ezekiel 18:20

The soul who sins shall die. The son shall not
suffer for the iniquity of the father, nor the
father suffer for the iniquity of the son. The
righteousness of the righteous shall be upon
himself, and the wickedness of the wicked shall
be upon himself.

Galatians 6:7

DO NOT BE DECEIVED MY BROTHER: God is not mocked, for
whatever one sows, that will he also reap.

malvisguy212:
show me in the bible were it say, God died. Jesus died and resurrected and live forever more. But God the son which incarnate in Him do not die.

Luke 23:46
Father, into your hands I commend MY
SPIRIT - and having said this, he gave up the spirit"

Jesus has two nature, divine and human nature, His divine and human
nature were inseparably united. His
divine nature, of course, could not die.
He Himself said, "I lay down my life that I might take it again. No man takes it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again" ( John 10:17-18)

So back to topic, were did muhammed got the idea from, christians and Jews worship at dead prophet tomb ?

I quoted for you a verse to treat, you are quoting another one. Maybe that verse is calling my own verse a liar. No wahala. But the verse I quoted says Jesus is the god that was said to have died.

But i have answered you so well and you stylishly running off my own question.

Why must Jesus die before you are forgiven?

malvisguy212:
wow, wonders they say shall never end, the surah say we shall remits for you your EVIL DEED. You can twist it as you can, the quranic verse is their for the open minded.

Why must Jesus die before you are forgiven?

malvisguy212:
God the son incarnate in Jesus, Jesus christ is a man. So tell me now, were in the bible it say God died ?

Isaiah 9:6 says;

For to us a child is born, to us a son is
given, and the government will be on his
shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful
Counselor, Mighty God , Everlasting Father,
Prince of Peace.

So it's is said in Christianity that Jesus is God. So if He died, then it means God died. (audhubillah). What a blasphemy!

malvisguy212:
you are still asking how is sin forgiven ? Doesent this verse answer your questions ?
Sura 4:30-31, Whoso doeth that (evil deeds) through aggression and injustice, We shall cast him into Fire, and that is ever easy for Allah. If ye avoid the GREAT (things) WHICH YE ARE FORBIDDEN, We will remit from you your evil deeds and make you enter at a noble gate.

What those "great" imply ? The opposite is small/little, now, the verse indicate this great thing are forbidden, meaning it is sin. Sin are forgiven only if you Avoid the Great things which you are forbidden.

Chai my brother! You can twist o!

Okay that verse up there means that, if you avoid great sins, by doing so, Allah shall remit you... I know this is where you have a language problem. Remitting in this sense means He shall remove you or better put, guide you or prevent you from the small ones, in order that you enter paradise. This doesn't mean that small sins are not counted.

But my question is that, why must Jesus die on the cross before xtians are forgiven? But you're stylishly declining.

malvisguy212:
I did not misinterpret anything,sura 6:120 was in harmony with Sura 4:30-31, why dint you explained it ?

In sura 6:120 which sin are to be garnered?which result to award in paradise ? How is earning of sin reward you heaven ? Sura 4:30-31, was even clearer, if you avoid the great sin, what about small sin as indicated in the quran ?

How is those hadith a logic to atoned for sin ? I wish you see the canal interpretation you imply, wiping of bottom is to clean dirt, yes, and its good. does it mean it a sin ?

Here is one;
Al Hadis, Book 1, Chap. 6, No. 140- Abu
Raihanah reported that the Messenger
of Allah forbade ten things: Sharpening
teeth, anointing palms, plucking out
hairs, a man lying with another man
without under-garments, a woman
lying with another woman without
under-garments, a man putting on silk
underneath his dress like foreigners,
or his putting on silk upon his two
shoulders like foreigners, plunder,
riding on leopards, and using a seal
excepting for one who is a ruler.
Attested by Abu Daud, Nisai.

What a silly law!! ridding of leopard ? Common sense will tell you not ride this dangerous animal, but if by chance you did ride it, is it a sin ?

I wonder where you get your 'great sin small sin' from the verses you quoted and I have taken my time to explain to you.

And the question is not what is or not a sin. The question is how can sins be forgiven?

Is it by righting your wrongs and then seeking forgiveness from God? Or

Someone has to die so you can be forgiven?

malvisguy212:
God died ? I need scriptural reference .

Are you a Christian? Do you believe that Jesus is God? That is what Christianity preaches.

But why are you declining to answer my own questions?

malvisguy212:
this biblical reference do not say God died, God is a spirit, God is eternal, He cannot die, who incarnate in Jesus ? God the son or God the father ? The answer is in matthew;
Matthew 6:9
9 “This, then, is how you should pray:
“‘OUR FATHER IN HEAVEN , hallowed be your name,

The father is in heaven, it was the son who incarnate in Jesus, NOTE: Jesus is a man.

I've not even gone to the fact that xtian say God died. Don't jump too fast.

Even if Jesus, the son died, it still doesn't make sense that God allows His son to die, in order for Him to forgive the human race. That's not forgiveness.

malvisguy212:
Let me ask you, how is sin being paid for in islam ? Do you think God who is holy and pure, who hate sin , He will ignored the little sin you commit? How did muhammed solve the problem of sin ? What was his teaching toward sin ? If you neglect how Jesus solve the problem of sin, yet you believe in this surah below , then their is satanic manipulation going on;

Sura 6:120, Forsake the outwardness of sin and the inwardness thereof. Lo! THOES WHO GARNER SIN WILL BE AWARDED that which they have EARNED.

So there is Hell to pay for great sins, but
the small sins will be overlooked if the
great ones are not committed. If you believe this doctrine, I pity you.

Why are you mistranslating? You understand English my brother. The verse you quoted up there is clear enough, to say that sinners that are unrepentant will reap the fruits of their sins. No greater or small sins is talked about.

Sura 39:53, Say: O My slaves
who have been prodigal TO THEIR OWN
HURT! Despair not of the mercy of Allah,
Who forgiveth all sins. Lo! He is the
Forgiving, the Merciful.

This is small comfort. It is only forgiveness for the sins I have done to
hurt myself "to their own hurt". What
about my sins against other men and
God? This is exactly why Jesus confront the religious leaders in His days, They
refused to confront the holiness of God
through "new birth," so they had to make an endless list of small sins to avoid,

This verse is talking of the adversities that the sin you commit against yourself or any other has on you. Then the second part of the verse explains how sin is forgiven in Islam. Make right what you've done wrong and then benefit from the mercies of Allah by seeking forgiveness, lobatan. Not that someone has to die.

Al Hadis, Book 1, Chap. 7, No. 54- Ibn
Mas'ud reported that the Messenger of
Allah said: 'Don't cleanse yourselves
(wipe your backside) with impure
things, nor with bones, because these
are the provision (food) of your
brethren from the Jinn (demons)'.
Attested by Tirmizi, Nisai

I will make only brief comments. It is
enough to just read these laws in
Muhammed's legal system. I do not give
these to mock, rather; I show you the
mind of "The Prophet" of Allah. When sin cannot be paid, it is necessary to make silly little laws about the most mundane thing, like wiping your bottom after relieving oneself. Here is another such silly law:

This means that you can't cleanse filth with filth. That's simple logic, and likewise, you can't cleanse a sin with someone's blood. That's idolatry.

Al Hadis, Book 1, Chap 8, No. 58-
Abdullah-b-Sarjas reported that the
Messenger of Allah said: 'None of you
must pass urine in a snake's hole'.
Attested by Nisai, Abu Dawud

Why? There is no reason given. What is
Allah telling us about urine and snakes? I am curious. The serpent is the image of evil in the Word of God. Why is Allah
showing this consideration for snakes.

Now compear this doctrine of sin thought in the quran were sin can be overlook and the bible, which of this doctrine of sin make man HOLY and BLAMELESS in God sight ?

See my brother, Islam is a religion that encompasses every aspect of human life. Imagine you are sleeping on your bed and someone comes to pee on you. In Islam, we should also respect animals. Asides that, there are spiritual implications but I want to keep it logical.

I stand to say that the concept of sin and forgiveness in Islam is more logical and better than any of other religions.

I still have my questions please answer them as I have answered yours. Thanks.

malvisguy212:
can you give biblical reference of this ? If you don't understand the trinity, tell me and I will enlightened you only if you are open to discuss it with open mind.

Before the coming of christ, how is the Jews atoned for sin ? With one man sin enter the world and with one man the forgiven of sin is made.

Can I quote biblical references? The most famous quote of the Bible of course! John 3:16 "for God so loves the world, that He gave His only begotten son and whosoever believes in him shall not perish, but have everlasting life"

This biblical reference above depicts that the reason for the acclaimed death of jesus is that sins may be forgiven. That is why I asked the question, if you believe Jesus was the son of God, why should someone sin against me and in order to forgive that person, I have to kill my own son?

Firstly, it doesn't make sense, and it would never happen. Secondly, it means their isn't forgiveness. Forgiveness is when you offend me and I let go without taking my retaliation from you or anyone else,so if someone has to die before humans are forgiven, then that's not forgiveness. That's retaliation.

And then I'll ask you to let us leave it at this, because if you should go forward to explain trinity to me, you're going to shoot yourself in the leg and enter into more poo.

malvisguy212:
isn't it wonderful that God dwell in flesh and wanted to have a personal relationship with us ?

And kill himself to in order to forgive you?

Why must someone die, so you can be forgiven? Can't God just forgive you?

malvisguy212:
Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 8,
Number 427:
Narrated ‘Aisha and ‘Abdullah bin
‘Abbas: When the last moment of
the life of Allah’s Apostle came he
started putting his ‘Khamisa’ on his
face and when he felt hot and short
of breath he took it off his face and
said , “May Allah CURSE the Jews and
Christians for THEY BUILT THE PLACES OF WORSHIP AT THE GRAVES OF THEIR PROPHET .”

even in his dying breath, uttered curses. Please recall Muhammad’s reason for cursing the Jews and the Christians. He said, “FOR THEY BUILT THE PLACES OF WORSHIP AT THE GRAVES OF THEIR PROPHET .” We will now address this accusation of Muhammad. We will look at the facts recorded in the Bible.

Moses and Jesus ,they are very important to the Jews, Moses to Judaism and Jesus to Christianity. As stated in Deuteronomy 34:5-6, God himself buried Moses to an undisclosed place and to Jesus,God removed His body. committing. Meaning it prevented both christians and Jews from being enticed to make pilgrimages or pay homage to such sites. It protected them from creature-worship. In contrast, what did the Muslims do with Muhammad’s tomb after his death? Muslims built a mosque on his tomb. His grave became a place for Muslim pilgrims to visit in Medina annually. The Prophet’s tomb at Medina is, after Mecca, the site most venerated by Muslims. It is visited with reverence in the hearts of the faithful. Ironically, these Muslims fell into the very class of people, upon whom Muhammad beseeched Allah’s curse.

Unlike Jehovah, Allah did not have the
wisdom or the insight to prevent the
causes that could lead to creature-
worship among his worshippers.

The 12th century work by Qadi Iyad is
highly accepted throughout the Muslim
world. Al-Qadi Iyadibn Musa al-Yahsubi
(1083 C.E.-1149 C.E.) wrote in his book
Al-Shifa’:

“Visiting his grave is part of the Sunna
and is both excellent and desirable.
Ibn `Umar said that the Prophet said,
‘My shafa’at (intercession on the
Day of Qiyamah) is Waajib
(incumbent upon me to intercede)
FOR THE ONE WHO VISIT MY GRAVE.’”

When you commit an atrocity and you want your wife to witness to your innocence. Who doesn't know that even a mad man will clear a bush towards himself. You don't try to use the Bible as your point when presenting a case of your defense. We don't believe a chunk of it.

God prevented xtians from being enticed to performing pilgrimage, then what do they go to do in Jerusalem? You and your priests bow to the picture and cross, what kind of worship is that called?

Visiting the grave of the prophet is not mandatory and no act of worship is performed in the process. It is as a lesson to instill the fact that he was a prophet and still died. To teach us the inevitability of death. And we also do so because he recommended it for us and we may be rewarded by heeding to the recommendations of the Holy prophet.

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mufutau55. etc etc
I could have asked in your threads, but opened this so more people can learn and share, thanks for understanding.

WHAT ARE THE LIKELY CAUSES?
and there any future consequences and corrective adjustments?

Basically sir, I think cracks occur because of lack of elasticity. Weather conditions in the area may expand these structures and when it is not taken into consideration, cracks like that or worse may occur.

Caution should be taken when mixing the materials, I'm not an expert so your architect should know the proportions better, to allow for elasticity of the structures. Thanks

Themandator:


What I believe he is trying to point out is this: remove the stomping beats and ask the kesh guy to voice those lyrics of his

Why not?! But the result will still be that some people will or will not like it. From the beginning I have said it. Music is art, and you can choose your style from a wide range. And why do you want to remove the instruments as if it's not part of the music? We've had songs where the singer says just only one phrase and the rest is instruments, win awards.