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Islam for Muslims / Re: Talk About Christmas by golpen(m): 3:03pm On Jan 03, 2014
cleanvessel:

I never told you I agreed that birthday cannot be celebrated on a day generally agreed by the people. The beauty of christianity is that the christians are in constant contact with Jesus. He hears us and we hear him. If he is displeased with the way we do christmas, he would have told us.

I still cannot understand why you keep saying the good act of giving gifts originated from the pagans. Even Jesus is a gift by God to the world and he gave himself to the world. By your claim, you are saying paganism is good.

Abraham never celebrated ''Ileya'' in his lifetime as muslims do. No record of such festival in the land of Istrael and Abraham was not an Arabian. He lived and died in Istrael. Where was he celebrating it? 'Ileya' is a lie fabricated against Abraham.

You asked for argument by your thread and I wonder why you get tired so soon. You should not oppose some people doings and not ready for defence, which you call argument.


I would have posted it in your section if I ever asked for an argument with this thread. I have stated my aim in one of my earlier posts and I think those who know how to get it, got it right. I'm not even the one opposing it right now, but a sect of your christian religion is, so I don't deserve the aggression. You have them as your neighbours and you can choose to talk it out with them.

I'm not ready to argue with you on ileya because its none of your business, you only just want to quench your thirst for arguments and like I said, I'm not up for such.
Islam for Muslims / Re: Talk About Christmas by golpen(m): 7:45pm On Jan 02, 2014
Thank God you agree it's not too pretty to celebrate ones bday on a wrong date. I think we're just on the remaining.

I didn't say sharing gifts is satanic. You asked for similarities between how they celebrated and worshipped their gods then and christmas now and part of it is sharing gifts, which was intentionally added to christmas in other to blend up. Imagine, sharing gifts is not a core part last supper, then why christmas?

Muslims kill those rams as directed by God (the lord of the worlds) in imitation of prophet Abraham (as you xtians also agree that he's an epitome of faith). We share the meat amonsgt ourselves and not to any god, all because HE ordered it and ewe have a proof for it. What is the proof for christmas in christianity? It is a fabrication.

Please make your findings about the word. You don't need to be told everything. Get out of the ring.

Gift giving at christmas is an imitation of the pagan ways and for that it is falsehood. Thanks.

I'm tired of unending arguments please.
Islam for Muslims / Re: Talk About Christmas by golpen(m): 1:59pm On Jan 02, 2014
cleanvessel: @ golpen

It is true Jesus didn't tell us to celebrate his birthday. It is not compulsory somebody orders his people to celebrate his birthday before they do it after him. We do it to appreciate him, not out of command.

So celebrating a birthday you don't even know when, is your only way of appreciating Jesus? Do you even know the meaning of the word 'mas' that is the suffix in 'christmas'? Maybe you should find out.

It also could be true that he was not born in december 25. This is not enough to condemn celebration of christmas. It is nothing wrong choosing a day by general consensus to celebrate him. I have these questions for you:

Would you have been happy if you found out that by your parents' consensus, your birthday till now have been celebrated on a wrong date? Especially on a day affiliated with idol worship. My brother, if it is enough, there are some other things that made it even worse.

You linked christmas celebration to worship of idol. How was that idol worshiped and how is chrismas celebrated?
Is it the same?

I didn't link it, the pope did. The papalcy which some of your fellow pentecosts and anglicans detest. And to your question, in fact, there are just some acts that are the same between both. Like sharing gifts is a core part of the idol celebration then, please read the OPs.

How do eating and drinking, giving gifts and praising Jesus amount to worship of idol?

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Answer above...thanks.
Islam for Muslims / Re: Talk About Christmas by golpen(m): 12:36pm On Dec 31, 2013
Mintayo:
Like i said,i do not expect u to understand.
Btw,there is a lot of similarities btw u guys and JW,so i am not surprised.

It still remains that they are christians like you are, so you should be surprised.



Now u r talking@d bolded,i can see what is 'eating' you now.
Enjoy ur night.
*unfollow thread*

And that is why I've tried to inform my brothers, which is what ate you all up smiley thanks for following the thread.
Islam for Muslims / Re: Talk About Christmas by golpen(m): 2:32pm On Dec 28, 2013
Mintayo: Col. 2:16 Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day.
Col. 2:17 These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ.
Col. 2:20 Since you died with Christ to the basic principles of this world, why, as though you still belonged to it, do you submit to its rules:
Col. 2:21 “Do not handle! Do not taste! Do not touch!”?
Col. 2:22 These are all destined to perish with use, because they are based on human commands and teachings.
Col. 2:23 Such regulations indeed have an appearance of wisdom, with their self-imposed worship, their false humility and their harsh treatment of the body, but they lack any value in restraining sensual indulgence...

Stop disturbing me jare Mr memory verse... If all these above gives you the license to drink alcohol or better still, become a cannibal, then you can go ahead, since such regulations bla bla bla... Safe it to yourself or attack the JWs in your area.

I pray you understand the above...you are just being ignorant.
If u care to know,u can read Colosians 2:6-23.
We are christains not because we are subject to a day,time or hour,but because we believe and accept JESUS as our LORD and SAVIOUR,and when u have Jesus,you have dominion over all things,u cannot be judge by man or things that are judging man...in Christ everything is complete,you are nt under any man's authority,u cannot be condemned by any man or anything.
I bet when Jesus said "He is the Lord over the Sabbath",i am sure u either dnt knw what he meant or u v another meaning for it.
I will leave u with this...
NL is owned by Seun,who is an 'athiest'...and yet you guys have a 'home' here and uses NL well,shldnt that b an haram?(following d same logic as ur christmas day accusation).
Enjoy your day.

Islam does not teach hostility, if what is being practised is within its limitations. If you give birth for instance, I can come pay you a visit. I can eat your food, if it is that which is lawful for me islamically and I can help you as well as you can help me, if it goes within the confinement. Therefore, NL is not haram because the owner is a non-muslim. An example of what could make it haram is if it is an indecency site, or plays hostility against islam, like prohibiting islamic words, so get it straight. Christmas is against islamic confinement and so isn't lawful according to your fellow JW christians.
Education / Re: Loyola College Ibadan Old Boys Meet Here by golpen(m): 6:50am On Dec 28, 2013
I have a script of my time spent in that great citadel of knowledge, unpublished since over 5 years now. I'm from the 2000 - 2005. Looking forward to attending my first luncheon with the old boys tomorrow, sunday 29th dec 2013, at the school hall. Anyone who cares to join in pls?
Literature / Re: My Book Of Short Stories by golpen(m): 8:29am On Dec 27, 2013
The Forbidden Fruit


Many people thought she was already feeling home sick, but what the thought
in her mind was a very different one. She had spent weeks in the sober mood, not telling anybody anything about it. But how could she
tell? Telling anybody the cause of her sadness meant she would tell
the remaining part of the story from how it all began. She would tell
about the darker scar on her dark skin, how she had come by it and as
she tried to imagine herself telling the story of her life to her
parents or anyone who cared to hear, she couldn’t figure out what that
would cause. But she was sure her mother would die even before her
death if she knows of her time that is fast approaching.

“Morenike!” Her father called.

She didn’t know he had been standing behind her, peeping from inside the entrance over the small wood gate. She had been carried away in
her thoughts, but when she suddenly heard her father’s voice from
behind, she wasn’t shocked. She didn’t answer, didn’t turn her
straight face.

“You know how sad I feel whenever I see you look this way” of course,
she knew how sad her parents used to feel whenever she looks sad. She
was the only child and Adebayo would spend every of his belongings, to
make her happy. He became arrogantly proud of her, when she started
growing to become a woman. He would take her to play ‘ayo’ game at
‘Seredale,’ saying to the mother, “she is meant to be a son" as he boastfully parade her like the only queen in the village. She too would smile at her very reasonable height for a female, with her white set of teeth which is as straight and neatly arranged. Shea butter would bring out the smoothness of her dark skin, leaving the youth in the village stumbling over and over again.

The truth is this: she came from the trees. The trees in the thick
forest, where pounded yam and egusi soup is served hot. Under the
banana tree is suitable to be a play ground, where they sing and dance
in the fashioned clothing of palm fronds. She could sing the world
out.

‘Yeye’ allows them to go to the world to get exposed. Only on a
condition they must agree to - specific time to come back. Yeye
caused her the scar she got. She called her back prior to time and
Ogunmakin had pressed on the four year old corpse, a red hot iron. It
was either a means of scaring her away or identifying her if she
should come back. She never came back. She would rather stay and enjoy the lush land of the woods, sing under the banana tree in her adorable voice and play with 'kogo' the monkey, her favourite of times. They would take a stroll and admire the lands and no matter how far they travelled, she was sure kogo knows the way back home.

one day, on one of her strolls with kogo, she wanted to share with him a bunch of banana. Kogo hijacked the
banana and took to the tree, not wanting to share any amount of it. She had sung so impressively and Yeye had given her the
whole bunch. She must eat of it. She followed kogo, pleading to
get some, but the monkey playingly tossed the banana away from her
reach and proceeded from trees to trees perfectly. She would smile timely each
time and moved on with pleading and the journey.

At last, at a stone throw from what looked so appealing a
scenery to her, kogo agreed to share her some. They both sat on
the floor to eat, but the plain land of ridges, neatly lined in rows
and columns now caught her fancy. She strolled towards it, to have a
good feel of beauty. There she was touched.

“Would you cry your eyes out and become sick?” she heard a man speak
gently to his wife, who was sobbing seriously. She dare not let anyone
see her and she was so interested in the story. So she became
invicible and listened carefully.

“Where are they?” the woman asked, crying “Adebimpe makes the
ridges, Adebayo would pluck the cocoa and harvest the cassava, Adeola
the only female would fetch the fire wood. The good old times, the
rough bad days with my children, my two lovely male children and a
girl. Where are they?”
“They will soon come again with time, Amoke,” he pleaded, “They will
come again. You’re not too old to give birth Eledumare is still there,
clearly aware of our plights and you should know that a night sheep
may bring back forth your three children.”
The man helped her poor wife inside and when she noticed herself
again, it was getting dark and Yeye would have become worried.
************
“That world is too dangerous over there,” Yeye protested.
“I know, but it’s time I made some people happy in it,” she said.
“You can make us happy here too. You sing into our hearts and we're happy whenever you do this.”
“Here is happy place already, let me go out there and learn new things in
the danger, face challenges and make them happy.”

Yeye now turned sober either because she wouldn’t want to loose her or
that her feelings and emotions had been flamed by her words.

“You may go,” Yeye said simply. Just as she set out to move. Yeye
called back, “You shall leave that world when on that day you wed. But
if the hair-headed tire you before that time, you’re welcome always.”

“That’s enough time to do with the world,” she answered

“Don’t keep Iroko waiting,” she warmed, "he wishes to take you as his
wife on that day you wed that man in the world.”

“Observed and beheld,” she answered and left quickly before Yeye
Would change her mind.

Everything surprised her when the family welcomed her to the world.
The cola she ate to weave away bad luck, the bitter nut, to grant long
life, ‘Aadun’ to make a sweet life and honey to fill her life with
goodies. She got the name that swept her off her feet. ‘MORENIKE’
which means ‘I have found someone to please.’ So, they promised to
take care of her and please her like she belonged to this world.

Just as promised, Morenikeji grew up with care. She learnt very fast,
learning first how to make ridges like perfectly as she had seen it
the other time. She really enjoyed doing things she knew because she
feels she was filling up the spaces the three kids had left. She
really loves to try up new things too, that made Adedayo think he was
meant to be a boy. She sings as well too.

She had put them to tests several times. She had fallen sick times countless, but her parents had not been at all fed-up of taking
care of her.

“Why do you take care of me so much.” She asked curiously on her sick
bed one day. Amoke held her head up. The tears that fell from her eyes
was hot when it dropped on her check and it meant to her it was of
passion and not sadness.

“Because you’re precious and I love you so much”

“Love,” she asked. She had never heard of the word even in the times
from where she came.

“Yes. Love,” Amoke answered finally. “It is what makes the world go
round. Eledumare stays anywhere it is found and bless it”

“Then I guess baba loves me too”

“Yes you should be sure”

“Then if Eledumare bless that place where love is, why do I fall
sick,” asked Morenike.

“This, it is just a test, my dear. You will overcome all this with
time if you don’t get fed up of loving us”
Amoke paused a bit and continued " you see, before I gave birth to you, I already had three children and just as a test as your sickness is, they all died at once and our hearts ached. See, we never got tired of loving ourselves and that's why we have you as a manifestation of Eledumare's presence"

“So are you…?” Morenikeji couldn't finish the question and so Amoke picked her up from there.

"No! Don’t ever think that way. Me, Amoke and the love of my life,
Adedayo will never stop loving you”
She forced herself up and hugged her mother so tight, but she
squeezed her lightly in return to avoid hurting her. Though she already knew the story, she couldn't fight back tears. They had passed
her test and taught her what love is.
**********

Olufemi came into her life again; to manifest that love exists in the
world. Iroko would never tell her how beautiful she looked, but
Olufemi did.

“I'm just like the shining sun,” he once told her one early morning. When She looked up at
the morning sun, he continued "I'm meant to brighten up your day and illuminate your world" she became flattered.

“You are just mild as that full moon” he said another evening, “look
at it,” he ordered and she did. It was pretty.

But one evening, when
she asked “Yes, no sun in the sky and no moon up there, what do I look like now?”
Olufemi gave him a captivating look and she turned shyly away. He said
“Look up, what do you see?”

“The stars,” answered Morenike

“They are the children of the moon. They twinkle in joy and kiss the
moon to bed when she feels sleepy”

“Humn…” she sighed, not taking her eyes off the sky

“Yes”, he affirmed, “So when you’re the moon and I’m the sun, would
you love our stars?”

“Yes,” she answered softly and surely. “I have been taught all my life to do that”

“Will you marry me?” asked Olufemi
Morenikeji looked away from the sky, to the citrus tree under which
they sat, to Olufemi’s face, but he wasn’t there. He had knelt soberly
and in all answers that she searched for in her mind, a 'yes' was all she could find.
*************

She had thought over and over again and couldn’t tell anybody her story. She
shall be going tomorrow, back to the trees, where Iroko waits
impatiently for the new bride.

“It’s getting late my dear,” Adedayo said to his precious daughter.

The ladies, who were making the feast, had gone and what remained was
the few red hot coal that had not burnt into ashes, still warming the hands of time.

“See, the moon has
gone to bed, bet the stars kissed her good night. Let’s go to bed.
Your man shall be waiting tomorrow.”

‘Who was her man?’ Iroko or Olufemi. Iroko was a tree and Olufemi was
the sun. She was the moon and only Olufemi could give her the stars.

As she stood up to go inside as her father took the lead, she made up
her mind.

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Literature / My Book Of Short Stories by golpen(m): 7:42am On Dec 27, 2013
I'm starting to think of putting somethings up, so I thought I should put it here first for you guys to read. It's just a couple of short stories I'll be updating weekly and I have about eight of them right now, so you neednt worry for the next two months or there about smiley . Hope you'll find them interesting. Thanks.
Islam for Muslims / Re: Muslim Singles, Let Us Have A Talk by golpen(m): 6:40pm On Dec 26, 2013
It is sometimes likely one sees a person he's never met in his dreams (maybe slim chances though), but as good a tiding as he must have thought, he should have tried with some more logical steps that banking all the relationship on just dreams.

Who knows? Maybe the brother didn't woo the sister with that dream stuff. He might as well have told her when they got readily in the relationship. I'll think wooing her with that might not just be it.
Islam for Muslims / Re: Talk About Christmas by golpen(m): 6:14pm On Dec 26, 2013
Mintayo:
Another obsession with christainity.

Why should I be obsessed with a religion that don't bother me an inch?..


1. What do u stand to gain with d above?

1. What I stand to gain is educating my fellow muslim brethren who might not be readily aware of these things, hence celebrating xmas just like those families in japan. And that is why you aren't reading it outside of this islam section. So who's obsessed about which religion smiley

2. Don't u think u shld be ashamed of urself by copying from d work of a 'christain' orgnization to make claims that u dnt understand urself?

I think you should be ashamed because this is from a fellow piece and all you do is insult in deep surprising
frustration. Mind you, I and others reading it can read and understand. Maybe unlike you cheesy

3. Majority of what u wrote there r falsehood which i do not expect u to understand.

Did I hear you say MAJORITY? Let me remind you that it means that some of them aren't falsehood, but imagine a shameless you blabbing only. What real men do is prove them wrong with your opinions. But maybe I don't need that anyway. It was for my fellow muslims, you may choose to tell your xtian friends and JWs that it's all false, ot you may still choose to stand afar from the points and insult.

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Islam for Muslims / Re: Talk About Christmas by golpen(m): 10:05am On Dec 25, 2013
It may be laughable that many people don't know about these things, hence celebrating in ignorance, but now I think it is really pathetic you claim to be aware of all these and still choose to practise anyway.

I'm not a christian anyway, your jehovah witness brethren are the ones against it.

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Islam for Muslims / Re: Talk About Christmas by golpen(m): 12:26am On Dec 25, 2013
IT IS PURE DECEPTION

If we look into the concept of celebrating christmas compared to what the bible says, most of these acts have their origin from pagan ways of worship, while some are just opposite of what the bible teaches. This shows that, saying christmas is a christian celebration is baseless. How was christmas brought into christianity? Like the bible has fore-told, lots of false teachers arise thousands of years after christ's death (2 timothy 4:3,4) their thought was to find a way of attracting the unbelievers to christianity and not how to preach the true word. That is why they brought different pagan ways of worship into christianity.

The bible warns that false teacgers like that will deceive you with such false acts, but for them, judgement isn't far and their punishment slumbers not (2 peter 2:1-3). With great respect do we Jehovah's witnesses bring forth these words and other words from the bible and are sure it is the true word of God. Therefore we don't participate in false practices and false celebrations. Does this make us forfeit our joy? NO...but as we see it, we are sure that the bible lessons brings forth freedom.

My personal translation From the yoruba version of jehovah witnesses' 'AWAKE magazine january-march 2011' with a very few of my addition. Please do forgive my flaws and I hope you had a nice read and have been able to make your decisions
Islam for Muslims / Re: Talk About Christmas by golpen(m): 12:24am On Dec 25, 2013
3. WHAT KIND OF STAR LEAD THEM TO JESUS?

What did star did tells us what kind of star it is. It didn't lead them to bthlehem directly, it lead them to jerusalem, which got Herold notified of Jesus' birth and so he wanted to find out... This shows that this star isn't an ordinary one. At first misleading the wise men to an enemy before leading them to Jesus meant it was one of satan's cunning ways, therefore it should be stunning to have these stars hanging on the christmas tree.


4. WHAT DOES SANTA CLAUS HAVE TO DO WITH JESUS AND HIS BIRTH?

What people do; in many places, santa claus is said to bring gifts for the kids. Little children often write to him requesting gifts. Transferred history has it that some extra-ordinary being produces those gifts from the far south, where he abodes.

How it all started: what people believe is that the tales of santa claus started from a bishop in ancient turkey known as holy nicholas. The christmas encyclopedia says, "it is almost fact that everything about holy nicholas is fictional". It is possible that the name santa claus known as father christmas was coined from the word "sinkterklaas" a name given to holy nicholas in dutch. This shows that santa claus has nothing to do with christmas or Jesus christ.

What the bible says: "therefore, putting away falsehood, let everyone speak the truth with his neighbour, for we are members of one another" ephessians 4:25. The bible also says, "love and say the truth from the bottom of your heart" zachariah 8:19 and so on...

Is it not bashful that the period many people claim to spend exhaulting Jesus is actually spent in deceiving the young kids and the old alike?


5. WHAT IS GOD'S REACTION TO EXCHANGING GIFTS AND CELEBRATING DURING CHRISTMAS?

What people do: the very special thing about christmas is that it is when people share the most with themselves, gifts and celebration.

How the act started: the worship of the idol saturn in the ancient roman empire starts on dec 17 and ends on dec 24 and this is when they exchange so many gifts just like christmas, after which they celebrate the first day of the month of janus (first of january/ new year) which also lasts for about three days. Which means the celebrations are somewhat interwoven.

What the bible says: happiness and sharing is part of the characteristics of true worship. The bible says, "be filled with happiness and shout with joy" psalm 32:11

The kind of sharing pointed at in the bible is not that which is particular to a specific race or religion of a festival.saying the truth, God blesses this kind of sharing, not that of the other way round.
Islam for Muslims / Talk About Christmas by golpen(m): 12:22am On Dec 25, 2013
Are you looking forward to celebrating christmas? Or are you getting scared as you expect the celebration of christmas? Many people ask: who am I getting a gift? What do I get? Am I buoyant enough? When am I settling the debts I've incurred for christmas?

THE TRUTH ABOUT CHRISTMAS

Do you wish to know the truth about the lessons and the celebrations and worships about christmas? If so, you should have asked these simple questions a time before;

1. Was Jesus christ born on the 25th of december?

2. Who are the wise men? Are they three really?

3. What kind of star lead them to Jesus?

4. What does father christmas have to do with the birth of christ?

5. What is God's reaction to giving or exchanging gifts in the name of celebrating christmas?

We shall try to treat these five questions and by the time we're done, you can make your decisions about celebrating christmas or not.

1. WAS JESUS CHRIST BORN ON THE 25TH OF DECEMBER?

What people do: many people believe christ was born on 25 december and for that, they celebrate his birth known as christmas.

How it all started: the christmas encyclopedia says; "the act of celebrating christ's birth is not in the bible, but abducted from the idol worshipping days in the ancient land of rome for the year ending" this which majorly comes up during cold times from the northern region (winter). The encyclopedia clarifies that this day was spent in worshipping the idol of farm produce and also spent in celebrating the birth of two gods of the sun - sol of the roman and mithra of persian empires.

This changed in the year 350 when this idol worship was brought into christianity. Pope julius the first announced the birthday of christ as december 25. Encyclopedia of religion says " as years went by, christmas was made to replace these idol worship days, thereby illustrating the resurrection of christ (which some thought was sol invictus), the sun picture now became a background behind the heads of holy people in pictures"

What the bible says: the bible did not specifically give the birthday of Jesus, but we can categorically say that it's not dec 25. Why do we say that? The bible tells us that at the time of his birth, shepherds 'lived outside' and they took care of the sheep in the evenings near bethlehem (Luke2:cool. The cold weather normally starts around october and by the time its getting to december, the cold must have become too much for the lambs to be kept outside, so shepherds especially those near bethlehem keep indoors, their sheeps in the nights.

One should wonder that the early christians who spent time with Jesus during his days of prophethood never celebrated christmas in any day, rather, they celebrate the remembrance of his death, as he ordered in the gospel luke 22:17-20.

But still some might say "what is the big deal in celebrating christ's birth on a day meant for idol worship? The answer is this; 'it is very bad in the sight of God' check john 4:23


2. WHO ARE THE WISE MEN? ARE THEY THREE REALLY?

What people do: people sometimes illustrate how the three wise men were lead by the stars to Jesus in the manger, presenting him gifts and some even say the shepherds were present.

How it all started: the christmas encyclopedia says, 'aside a few explanation, given by the bible about the wise men, every other story about the wise men is a work of fiction"

What the bible says: the bible never told us the number of the wise men that went to Jesus, it is possible they were two, three or more, although the bible tagged them as 'wise men'. The word used for them in the original language used in writing the bible is 'magoi' which may mean 'astrologers' or herbalists and the bible frowns at these, check deuteronomy 18:10-12. Because they came from a very far place (east) they were late and didn't meet Jesus at his birthplace. So it is possible they had to search some more before meeting ' the young child and his mother' matthew 2:11.
Islam for Muslims / Re: Ask Your Questions About Islam And Muslims Here. You Are Highly Welcome :) :) by golpen(m): 6:53pm On Dec 14, 2013
tpia@:
Its not really rapport you're seeing, folks are just being too polite to bid me good day, that's all.

I actually don't get along with a lot of people here but this section is currently one of the saner ones in the forum, so it isn't as rowdy as other parts. Almost like abroad sef, so to speak. You know, like when you compare nigeria to abroad.

As per converting, I wouldn't be in the section so often if I thought its my type people are looking for to convert to Islam.

Hmmm that's serious...but I think there's still a chance. Nobody can tell.
Islam for Muslims / Re: Ask Your Questions About Islam And Muslims Here. You Are Highly Welcome :) :) by golpen(m): 9:38pm On Dec 13, 2013
tpia@:
What's your question?

I'm sorry if I'm intruding o, but my question for you is this ma.

Have you ever thought of finding your way into the religion of islam for once? Or better still what would be your answer if I invite you to join in the practice of this beautiful deen?

I've come to realise that you have a rational view which has enhanced your good rapport with muslims here. You ask questions and accept or question answers modestly. It's caught my likeness, hence these questions. Thanks.
Islam for Muslims / Re: Hoaxes And Fabrications On Islam And Muslims by golpen(m): 12:47pm On Dec 12, 2013
But I think exposing these hoaxes are becoming not enough.

Imagine when news like this is spread, the rate of its spread is very much higher compared to when it is confirmed an hoax. All the bigot anti-muslims need to do is absorb and spread it like a virus without making any confirmation.

There should be more actions to be taken. I mean maybe like a legal penalty for generating hoaxes generally.
Islam for Muslims / Re: An Open Letter To All Muslims by golpen(m): 2:56am On Dec 09, 2013
Orikinla: Any dummy can see that the letter is preaching tolerance of Christians in Muslims territories. Focus on the message instead of digressing.


You must be a joke!!. Who's tolerant here? Is it the host or the visitors?

Twisting your mind that way may render you dumb unconsciously. Beware.

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Islam for Muslims / Re: Quran Study Group- Sharing Jewels From The Beautiful Book by golpen(m): 1:51pm On Dec 07, 2013
I'm in in shaa ALLAH...salaamu alaykum..
Islam for Muslims / Re: Your Most Recited Surah During Prayer Apart From Suratul Fatiah? by golpen(m): 10:03am On Dec 06, 2013
Al-ikhlas...I tend to recite it even after I've recited an earl.
Foreign Affairs / Long Walk To Freedom - 14 Inspiring Quotes Of Nelson Mandela by golpen(m): 7:37am On Dec 06, 2013
The former South African president’s struggle to overturn apartheid was an inspiration to many around the world. Here are some of the firebrand’s most memorable words.


Before his death, Nelson Mandela had already become a larger than life figure for his work ending apartheid in South Africa.  But the legend often overshadowed the real Madiba; he was simply a guy who saw inequality in his world and worked to make it right. Looking back at over five decades of his speeches and writings, we find a man who struggled to balance his duty to his family with his fight for his country, his moral drive to do what’s right with his personal pride. While alive, he inspired people through his speeches and letters, particularly those he wrote during his 18-year imprisonment on Robben Island. Here’s a selection of his most inspiring quotes:



South African president Nelson Mandela addresses the crowd at the Hector Petersen memorial in Soweto on Youth Day, June 16, 1999. (Darryl Hammond/Getty)

“If I had my time over I would do the same again, so would any man who dares call himself a man.” (After being convicted to five years hard labor, November 1962)

"I was made, by the law, a criminal, not because of what I had done, but because of what I stood for, because of what I thought, because of my conscience.” (Statement during trial, 1962)

“I can only say that I felt morally obliged to do what I did.”  (At the opening of his trial, April 20, 1964)

“Social equality is the only basis of human happiness.”  (A letter written on August 1, 1970)

“Difficulties break some men but make others.” (From a letter to wife, Winnie Mandela, from Robben Island, February 1975)

“I came to accept that I have no right whatsoever to judge others in terms of my own customs.” (From his unpublished autobiographical manuscript, 1975)

"Great anger and violence can never build a nation. We are striving to proceed in a manner and towards a result, which will ensure that all our people, both black and white, emerge as victors.” (Speech to European Parliament, 1990)

“Without democracy there cannot be peace.” (South Africa, May 9, 1992)

“We are fighting for a society where people will cease thinking in terms of colour.” (March 8, 1993)

 “When a man has done what he considers to be his duty to his people and his country, he can rest in peace.”  (Interview for Mandela, 1994)

"Reconciliation means working together to correct the legacy of past injustice.”  (December 16, 1995)

"I can rest only for a moment, for with freedom come responsibilities, and I dare not linger, for my long walk is not yet ended." (From Long Walk to Freedom, 1995)

"For to be free is not merely to cast off one's chains, but to live in a way that respects and enhances the freedom of others." (From Long Walk to Freedom, 1995)

"If you want to make peace with your enemy, you have to work with your enemy. Then he becomes your partner." (From Long Walk to Freedom, 1995)

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/12/05/nelson-mandela-s-most-inspiring-quotes.html
Islam for Muslims / Re: Don't You Think This Section Is Developing A Notoriety For Intolerance? by golpen(m): 1:29pm On Dec 04, 2013
Logicbwoy:


First of all, the mods could have closed the thread before or after it made front page.
Secondly, it was submitted to the mods before it reached front page

You are now trying to lie that it was a Christian supermod that posted it to the to the fp without the knowledge of the mods


Intolerance indeed

Which of the posts are you talking about?.. The hoax post about islam or the muslim invention one?
Islam for Muslims / Re: Don't You Think This Section Is Developing A Notoriety For Intolerance? by golpen(m): 6:52am On Dec 04, 2013
Logicbwoy: Evidence;

A thread containing the claim that Muhammad invented the toothbrush through using chewing stick first made it to the front page.

The truth doesn't matter as long as it is praising Islam or the prophet.


Imagine if someone (a non Muslim) lied by stating that the prophet invented war? Would that even make front page?

What is our mr logicbwoy saying? How many times as the truth mattered to you when it criticises islam? Do you know how many of hoaxes and fabrication about ridiculing islam that has made front page? "Do not post wrong information on NL"

And the stereotypical aspect is that ones a thread concerning islam is brought up on front page - no matter on what topic it is - what our tolerant christians and atheists shout on is terrorism, not caring if it derails the thread or not.

But here's what you should rather be logical about. OPs don't just make it to the front page. They actually pass through the superior mods which may include non-muslims, so its out of the mods hands to post an OP on the front page, be wise.
Islam for Muslims / Re: Miracle Of Allah In Ore, Ondo State Today by golpen(m): 10:39am On Dec 02, 2013
We've had enough of all these pleeeaaasssee!!!

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Islam for Muslims / Re: Muslim Singles, Let Us Have A Talk by golpen(m): 10:37am On Dec 02, 2013
maclatunji:

Do not wait for me o. I have my own peculiar issues, when I am ready, I would like to move swiftly. I am yet to meet a lady that would make me want to get married like yesterday.

For now, I am satisfied with being single and working to better my life. Let no unworthy woman come my way to distract me abeg.

grin grin
Islam for Muslims / Re: Muslim Singles, Let Us Have A Talk by golpen(m): 6:32am On Dec 02, 2013
tbaba1234:

Ok, quick quick o!!! We dey wait for you.

cheesy you make me laugh o. Wen people lyk you and oga mac never send in invitations. Let me be on the qui please. grin
Islam for Muslims / Re: Muslim Singles, Let Us Have A Talk by golpen(m): 10:23pm On Dec 01, 2013
tbaba1234:

Are you married, bro?

I wouldn't be here if I am grin
Islam for Muslims / Re: Muslim Singles, Let Us Have A Talk by golpen(m): 8:01pm On Dec 01, 2013
maclatunji:

I can bring things out of different places. I am one who pays attention to detail most of the time.

I see your points. Some ladies have a problem accepting that they are more emotional than men though which brings to my next question to all readers: how willing are you to display your emotions to other people especially the softer ones? For example: "excitement at seeing someone you love", "crying if you feel like it" or telling someone you miss them.


Some people maybe coy to say they miss their partners or show the excitement of seeing them. An example is someone like me, but someone who doesn't know me so well may take it to be an ego, but I sometimes may manage to say it frankly. Cry? I don't think so.
Islam for Muslims / Re: Don't You Think This Section Is Developing A Notoriety For Intolerance? by golpen(m): 9:24pm On Nov 30, 2013
Logicbwoy:


Your comment didn't make any sense. You were making sense before......were u coached? Lol

it doesn't make any sense because you're never going to stop calling smiley . Just admit and be gentle, we'll accommodate all of you the way you deserve. Keep calling!!! And remember, staring at the abyss makes the abyss stare back grin

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Islam for Muslims / Re: Don't You Think This Section Is Developing A Notoriety For Intolerance? by golpen(m): 7:46pm On Nov 30, 2013
@logicbwoy

I've not gotten to the roots of why it exists, but I think it's a matter of choice. You may request your xtian or atheist section be made too, there's no problem about that.

But the mere fact that it exists should have made it so easy to do away with the intolerance by not visiting here again. I'll take the section and the mods to be intolerant, only if and when every non-muslim post made here, relevant or irrelevant is deleted with immediate effect.

Further more, non-muslims may do away with the lashes of intolerance on their bomboms. Keep clear!

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Islam for Muslims / Re: Don't You Think This Section Is Developing A Notoriety For Intolerance? by golpen(m): 7:45pm On Nov 30, 2013
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