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Proudly repping the Average Nigerian club here. 😄

I'm actually going to get a t-shirt done with 'Average Nigerian' on it.

Jamesclooney:
Unfortunately for him, I no send him papa, I don’t give 2Fs about a Nairaland medic journeying from NG > UK > CA (maybe US in the future where the real money is). Like it’s not even a unique pathway to him. Men yakpa weh don do pass that one, yet he won’t let somebody drink water drop cup. Every Eke market day, do you know my net contribution this, or I’m so sorry you have that mindset blah blah blah….Like Neeggah who the F do you think are you? Please have several seats.

Even titans of industry are more humble than the guy. On top online world that by God’s grace, I’ll never ever meet you or need your help, respectfully GTFO!

This kind person go worse pass Burna Boy!

You're clearly very bitter. I'm not holding brief for him but it's clear to anyone who views it honestly that he has never talked about his accomplishments with the view to put anybody down.

As far as I can recall it's usually when it fits into a normal conversation or in response to people insinuating that he doesn't have options or as lavidaloca said, that he would suffer (which you conveniently ignored before starting these rants).

SapphireFort:
For people who bought a home in Scotland here, did you need to carry out a homebuyer's survey? The solicitor is saying we don't need it since home report includes a survey. The property is less than 10 years old.

You don't need it. The Home Report is fine for most properties but particularly for one that's basically brand new like yours, anything more would be a waste of money.

Before you rush and attack people like you so you can show that you're 'calling out your own' and 'not like the rest of them', make sure you do your DD on whatever it is you've heard - https://metro.co.uk/2025/12/03/catholic-nun-stabbed-herself-attack-locals-blamed-a-migrant-25108088/

LionInZion:
Just some posts above, we were just discussing how repulsive the habit of turning on ring lights and sharing illegal means of gaming the system. We usually also frown against a lack of ambition beyond the barest minimum level. Now, here is someone sharing their legitimate achievements. I wonder why anyone should have a problem with that. If anything, it should be a source of motivation, and not the other way round. Well, at least that's my own default POV on positive news. But then I guess to each their own ................

Àbí ó. And the person is ignoring the fact that he said what he said in response to attacks from lavida loca questioning his contributions, as opposed to just randomly coming to ‘boast’ or put anyone else down, as we’ve seen many times from others.

RodgersAkpafu:
You know the funny thing

We are saying the same thing

My angle is, part of making sure that our collective reputation dont get soiled IS calling riff raffs out in our midst AT EVERY GIVEN TURN

That way, the wider community knows that whoever did the "crime" did it on his own, and it is NOT a community sanctioned behaviour

If Muslims were more vocal about the wave of terrorism their bad faith actors were doing, they probably wont be in the reputational mess they are in

In Mexico, the cartel lifestyle is glorified and voices calling it out is not loud enough (though I understand this because cartels can kill)

If we keep keeping mute because "e no concern me"
When e burst, everyone go hear am

I remenber having a discussion with a black Brit and he hilariously told me that part of the reason why IT SEEMS that the white community has less issues IS because.....

THEY ARE SNITCHES
they will cast their papa, mama, kid, anybody
That's what he believes and in a way, I have seen this manifest
This is not to say awon fun fun are saints, but its something we can learn from them

When Hushpuppi was still out for example
And he was doing his insta live, go look at the comment section and see the praises and peolle saying they wanna be like him, and let him bless them

If you are a non Nigerian, and you stumble on this, wont it form your views in a way about Nigerians?
there is a reason a Chinese person will shout Allah akhbar and people will chuckle, but when a bearded Arab/South Asian do SAME, people will scamper

No, you and I are not saying the same thing.

You labeled people who came in as care workers from Nigeria and people who 'ran masters package sha' (whatever that means), as riff-raff. Now you're equating that with cartels and terrorism? Come on man.

The whole snitching thing is more selection bias with no grounding in fact and I cannot engage that because it'll boil down to an anecdote vs anecdote situation which can never be resolved. I mean this is the country of erstwhile Prince Andrew, lol.

HustlaOfLagos:
We all know the truth but we always want to be politically correct or justify bad stuff to prove points forgetting that large scale of anyhowness by Nigerians sometimes. Lots of people outsourced school stuff, some did not even come to class etc

I mean, look at the nonsense in the screenshot shared. We can start from unnecessary cho cho cho and its why the ones in Canada were vehemently against that Doc on Twitter some days ago.

I worked as a freelance writer many years ago. I know as a matter of ‘fact’ that the vast majority of clients seeking people to help them write assignments were not Nigerians. Most were American, UK etc.

The BBC report shows that and if you check the websites of the essay writing companies as well it’ll be very obvious who their target market is.

There’s no shred of evidence that it is more prevalent among Nigerians. What I’m seeing is just selection bias. You know many Nigerians so naturally you know many doing that.

How many people from any other country have you gotten to know how they get their assignments done? Answer is definitely zero or a much lower number than the Nigerians you know.

It’s not hiding from the ‘truth’ to challenge unfounded stereotypes. The plural of anecdote is anecdotes, not evidence.

HustlaOfLagos:
Side note, if you know you do not fit into the riff raff description, e no suppose affect or pain you naw afterall our people say -->


"An old woman is always uneasy when dry bones are mentioned"

No but this isn’t how it works in reality.

When stereotypes are allowed to grow they affect everyone in the community regardless of whether they are actually that thing or not.

The way the average Nigerian is viewed directly impacts EVERY Nigerian regardless of whether they are ‘better’ or ‘worse’ than that average. That’s why people from certain communities still face huge prejudice even when they are very obviously extremely more intelligent, successful etc than the generality of people in the country whether black or white etc, while people from certain other groups are presumed to be smart just based on the community they belong to.

So if you allow the narrative of the Average Nigerian being a riff-raff and a cheat to become entrenched and say nothing because it doesn’t apply to you, you’ll very likely still feel the impact because e.g when you apply for a role and the people there have that impression about Nigerians as a whole.

It’s not everything in life that you will have the opportunity to show that you’re different before being judged.

RodgersAkpafu:
Oh please just save it
What is the nexus between what has been discussed so far and this drivel you just posted up there ?

Who is advocating for anyone to be "sent home" based on what has been written so far by a plethora of respondents here ?

Is your comprehension skills so deficient that you cannot decipher the simple message being passed? or the origin of how the discussion started and how it led to this point?

If you feel so attacked by what has been said so far, maybe you aptly fit the description and you need to do something about your situation, so you dont get triggered anytime someone posts anything

Its the same way broke people, WHO FEEL INSECURE ABOUT THEIR FINANCIAL SITUATION become poets, composing book of lamentations anywhere they see discussions about "brokeness"

Because I have taken a second look at this concoction that was typed as I quote, and I am wondering where ANYONE claimed ownership of the UK, this is insecurities manifesting under the mask of being "bravado"

No worry, the riff raffs should continue in their riff raffery, ko si werey, when the ramifications that come from such begin to manifest, na una go stull cry blood

Again, just like i have said before, you guys are reacting based on HOW the posts some people made here made you feel, not about the content of the post

There was a recent BBC documentary about the "booming essay industries" in Africa (specifically Kenya as their reference) where African students are outsourcing their assignments to those "back home" to do it for them
And while I feel that documentary shouldn't have been done, the pervasiveness and how endemic that thing is was just too disgraceful to see, but it is behaviour that we tacitly endorse, because we think "we are smart"
That goes for Africans AND South Asians

Tomorrow when some bigoted dullar.dinho fellow say you have a "mickey mouse 🐭 degree" ; una go dey paara.
No worry , e go clear for una eye

1. Did you actually watch/listen to that program beyond the headline? Because if it is this one, you'll have seen that the vast majority of the clients those Kenyan writers work for are actually foreigners, many from the UK, and this has been the case for decades so it has nothing to do with your 'low quality recent migrants.' Unless it's another program/report, anyway, in which case can you kindly share it?

https://theworld.org/stories/2020/01/24/kenya-large-market-1-billion-global-contract-cheating-industry
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-58465189
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/w3ct1xzx

2. Has it ever crossed your mind that how you write and engage with people depicts very clearly that you are a prime example of the riff-raff you speak of so much?

Small thing and you're using slurs and playground insults, accusing people of being unintelligent and whatnot. I'm sure your response will be that you are merely frank, direct etc a la Badenough but I assure you it is possible to be all those things without sounding like you're arguing at a beer parlor.

I know you claim to work at a university so I'd suggest you show your posts like this last one to someone educated there and ask whether they think you are a riff-raff based on how you sound. I'm not a gambling man but that's one bet I would make an exception for.

jedisco:
Many people have deep seated inferiority or self-hate issues and look to reflect their insecurity on others. Folks should read a bit of history and see if European migrants who went to places like Can/U.S or Aus had any qualifications.

Not to long ago, same chap was using racial slurs to describe Indians blaming them for his inability to secure a job as a security guard and jubilating on how Trump would 'show them pepper'. I'm guessing saviour Trump did a good job there.


Now, he's turned on Nigerians. One can describe themselves in what ever way. It's trying to pull others into a concocted thought process that worries me.

I didn't know the bolded. I didn't even check his profile as I usually do before engaging someone.

Having checked it now, I see that that was a silly error on my part.

babajeje123:
Guys, be wary of those who provide unsolicited advice, those who look down on others, and those who speak arrogantly from their privilege positions.

C’est fini. 👍🏿

One thing I'd want to caveat though is that beware of believing everything people say here. People who are truly doing exceptionally well will typically not feel the need to blow their trumpets to impress random people on an internet forum.

In my experience it's people dealing with deep-seated insecurities that feel the need to harp on and on about how much better than others they are.

WanderingChild:
When you look at the dollar bill ($1), there is only a portrait of George Washington. When you take the 50 Naira note, there are four musketeers on it. The four heads there unfortunately do not add any value to the note. $1 = 30x the 50 NGN note.

That is how we are valued in the world today. The problem we have as Nigerians is that we use outlier stats to create arguments that don't hold true under proper scrutiny.

A good screening I can relate to is Australia's immigration system and formerly Canada's. Peers of equivalent standing as myself bar high salary and leading nationally funded projects have applied for their EOIs under the Australia NIV and are still waiting for an invite. These are folks who feature regularly in the top 2% of global researchers worldwide by citation count. I have been invited now twice. Of the 3 reasons stated in my invitation, two are absent from my Nigerian peers. They have the PhDs, citations and supervisions but Australia does not consider them sufficient enough to warrant an invite. On Reddit, I have seen someone with just a MSc and 11 patents get an invite in 2 weeks. Imagine the calibre of folks that will be onboarded into such country. Now ask yourself how many Nigerians will get such privilege. I can assure you that the selection will mostly been Americans and Asians (Chinese, Japanese, South Koreans, etc.).

Go to any m7 university and find out how many Nigerians make a cohort? On a per capita basis, compare with the Asians and again you see that we are irrelevant. Mention the field of research and I bet you any Nigerian you see at all is a statistical outlier.

I am afraid to say we are not really net positive contributors to humanity. You mention education? Do you want to compare the education in Nigeria with what you get in an m7 university? Have you seen any Nigerian university ever in the top 500 of university rankings? ASUU is on indefinite strike, have you heard about that in Europe or America or China or Singapore? Nobel laureate (don't even say it)? Field Marshall? Turing?

No one is twerking for attention to the whites. I can never change how they think about me - it is their culture gotten from the Greeks (Britainnia is a break out of the old Roman empire (that defeated Greece and imbibed its philosophy) along with Franco, and the others). However, humanity and even the same racists respect value. That is why when we apply for things and are exceptional we get it.

The *riff raff* tag is unfortunately apt. It describes sufficiently the kind of people who live in a "now disgraced country".

You are saying something entirely different from what the discussion was. I’m not interested in debating that but I must admit that your opinion of your individual status and those of people you engage with regularly as riff-raff may be entirely justified. You know yourself best, after all.

However it might be useful to try to engage (or at least scout via social media) people outside your circle and you’ll find that Nigerians are quite accomplished and well represented in many fields, despite numerous challenges.

RodgersAkpafu:
What i said is the undiluted truth

And if you feel some kind of way about it
Maybe you should take your advise and do some self introspection yourself

Do you know how many Nigerians and Indians/Pakistani I KNOW that have been caught with fake MOTs and even driving without regularisation of license after the one year lapsed

Should we talk about the yama yama practice of outsourcing assignments back and claiming they were the ones that did it? Should we talk about the disorderly behaviour at bus stops, the lack of basic civic sense

When I was still a student hustling
I used to do security gigs
I hear and see now that there are "special centres to arrange SIA training without the rigour of actually doing the training

Do you know how bad it got to the level that a huge northern agency only take their staff from a designated training centre (i found out about it recently)
It wasnt like this before (even though I am scared for them cos they may be sued sha, but if they have their alibi, they will be fine)
I can go on and on

All these behaviours are behaviours NOT FIT for purpose in a developed country, and many of you (yes you) are engaged in it, ruining our collective reputation

Riff raffs and touts
That's what many of our country men are here, carrying their zig zag ways here
You say professionals in Nigeria?
Abeg I no wan laugh

MOST of the actual professionals who saw the ship about to sink did express entry and went to Canada and Australia

This is not to say we didn't have waves of professionals come in from the UK (especially thr doctors nurses, teachers and all)

But the vast majority of Boriswave no be am, and I say it categorically even though it is making me appear classist

You are even talking bout "bringing money into the country"
How many of them actually paid their fees completely from Nigeria?
Or even had the funds they "claimed to have" in their statement of account?
Before the half fees came into effect
Initial deposit was 2k (N1.2m ish) and they "POFed" the rest
I am not mocking anybody, but thats the truth since you wanted to bring that up

That was why many of them were running helter skelter, working like maloo when they should have been in school to pay up the balance
Again, not mocking anyone, but we know the truth

This clown even talking smack about "they having higher qualifications than most British people" 🤡

So said someone who comes from a country where less than 8% have post secondary educational qualifications (i no wan laugh abeg)

If them sound, why are they outsourcing assignments?
Why are they saying MSc < Driver License
There is what we call anecdotal observations:
If you were on that NIUK thread that day and observed the following

1. Everyone there who agreed had a Masters, AND
2. Agreed that MSc < Driver License
3. Actually met Nigerians who think like that in real life,

What will you conclude ?


Only a bomboclaaaatt will even conceive such crap

Abeg there is a lot to say
Lemme just pin here before I say more than I suppose to

Alright, definitely-not-average Nigerian. 👍🏿

RodgersAkpafu:
That is a good question

And I am gonna answer very candidly

Over the last 5 years at the least, because of what i considered to be a lowering of barriers to entry for the UK, all manners of touts, riff raffs etc seeped through the cracks

From the ones who entered via the care route (the ones who bought from Nigeria) to non professionals who had a B.Sc sha and just ran the masters package

As one who works in a uni, I can tell you from Second hand account that some of the admissions team did a shambolic job in the scrutinisation of potential students
I wont call names of Unis, but they know themselves

All they were after was the revenues because the British govt in their folly have refused to heighten funding to these unis, and also at the time, refused to increase school fees for locals 8 years in a row

So a culmination of all these allowed touts and misfits (i know i sound classist but it is the truth) to come here

Their ring light behaviour nko?
How they act?
You live here nau, you see it, you know

When I knew that the NIUK cohort were useless was the day they were arguing and most of them had a consensus that Driver licence has more value than MSc, I was like

When you pay ppl to do your assignments
And you are a seasoned riff raff, thats what you say

Canada on the other hand had huge barriers to entry via express entry and all, coupled with higher rejection rates

On average, better crop of people went to Canada straight from Nigeria than to the UK

Unfortunately for Canada though, they relaxed the bar and fake Indian students newcomers have come to destroy Indians rep in Canada
Nigerians didnt get much from that stream in comparison

So to summarise, now that they have come here abd stayed some years, the barrier to entry us lower compared to if they came straight from naja

This is not to say every NIUK is a seasoned tout and refined riff raff, but we have quite a number in our midst

If Nigerian Canadians allow them to act the same way they do here over there, e don be for them

I saw this since when you posted it but I have found it difficult to formulate a response because I am genuinely struggling to understand how you felt comfortable saying all this.

People that entered via care route from Nigeria and non professionals who had a BSC sha and ‘ran masters package’? So…in other words healthcare workers and graduates who decided to emigrate to pursue economic opportunities just like you did but perhaps didn’t have the qualifications/opportunities you did?

You didn’t even think that by virtue of being graduates they have already attained higher qualifications than the majority of adults in this same UK?

And those are the people that you categorize as riff raffs because you happen to work at a university?

Their ring light behavior? What does that even mean? Is the percentage of immigrants who make videos up to 1% or even 0.1%? Even 0.00001%? How many Nigerians are on NIUK and what proportion do those that agreed about driver’s license form, from among the entirety of the Nigerian immigrant community? As a university worker you felt that was a representative enough sample size? Lol.

And how exactly do they act? Like stuck up pretenders who think they’re better than everyone else just because they managed to get a ‘professional’ job and so feel confident enough to denigrate the ‘average Nigerian’ at every turn? What does average Nigerian even mean

Lol . Man if you introspect a little bit more you’ll realize you’re not as far off from what you think an average Nigerian is as you might think, and I assure you that for all your pretensions the people you’re twerking for to show you’re ’not like the others’ see nothing but an average Nigerian when they look at you.

RodgersAkpafu:
I am still left leaning though

So i dont think its bout sorting your papers


Having said that

I have been reading the rancor between Nigerians in UK and Nigerians in Canada on twitter over the past week, and I am very ashamed of our ppl


Because whether we like it or not, from a dispassionate position, Nigerians in Camada ARE RIGHT to be apprehensive of the potential riff raffs coming from the UK

I meanz Dr. Pepple was stray bullet, as I believe he didnt deserve that, but he was just a victim of a bad reputation that NIUK have notoriously earned

People who claim to have advanced education couldn't even read to comprehend, but all of them talking rada rada revealing their inner insecurities

Shame catch me mehn for our ppl

I'm not on Twitter so I don't know (and frankly don't want to know) anything about this drama but I'm curious about one part and want to ask you since you endorsed the view.

Who are the "riff raffs" that might move from UK to Canada?

Goke7:
Una don go far o 😂 aaaah!

😄 funny enough I still haven’t put in my petition yet; this is just professional knowledge. I’m still tinkering with my petition and my zeal to submit has reduced because this new policy doesn’t change my timelines. I am really really reluctant about the US.

I will still force myself to stop dragging my feet and apply before the end of the year though because one can’t have too many redundancies in place, clearly.

HustlaOfLagos:
Long wait per usual

Got something for me?

Better that way. There has been a trend of them issuing RFEs to people on the premium deadline just to avoid paying them their money back as they would have to do if they don’t respond within the timeline.

You can also be prepping your EB1 petition in the interim while waiting for the NIW feedback - two factor authentication lol.

jedisco:
Comical indeed. You sound eerily familiar.

He does indeed!

HustlaOfLagos:
In recent times, I doubt they have released stuff like this that they did not go ahead to implement in full

DO you have an idea when everything will be finalized? I think it could be before Jan so as to prevent 2021 folks from getting ILR

April 2026. https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2025-11-20/debates/E3CE324D-7597-40C5-8697-DB48AA843CFC/MigrationSettlementPathway#contribution-44475956-0A57-466A-A4EA-7A7FD64AAD83

WanderingChild:
On the comical side (no harm intended), the birthing in the US thread on Nairaland literally died when trump with one stroke of the pen ended birth tourism for non-US citizens and PRs. It seems we may see the same for the thread on UK property. If people now have no assurance on their future status, it makes investing in property, pension, SIPP almost toxic for immigrants. Will you be paying pension for a future you may not be entitled to? Imagine people who have paid pension for 5 years and now have to emigrate elsewhere? What happens to the money sunk into the UK pension system? Imagine those who have bought property thinking they were on a path to settlement and now have to emigrate elsewhere. What happens to their property (someone says sell it)? Immigrants MUST be mindful of not allowing themselves become tools to enrich the Prince’s Trust and UK PLC. Deploy that resource in securing alternative options for yourself. Until you have that settlement, be very careful in making certain kinds of investments.

1. What alternative options?

2. Don't mislead people. Your SIPP and your entitlement to stay in the UK are two separate things. You can draw from your SIPP when you reach the appropriate age even if you leave the UK either directly or by transferring it into a foreign scheme,depending on the country.

I am very particular about this pension matter because Ive seen many people stop contributions because of misleading half-baked information they've got from social media. There are very few investments people can make that will be as beneficial as paying into their pensions,especially if they're higher rate payers. Feel free to tell us what you recommend if you disagree.

Also, property - why would people not buy property because they have a longer route to settlement? If they don't buy they continue paying rent but if they buy and then leave the country it's as simple as selling it and taking the cash wherever they're going. Except for edge cases the vast majority of people would make a profit doing that.

Viruses:
When they say the immigrants must not be in debt to qualify, hope they are only referring to mortgage and car loan debt, not credit card or business debt.

The debt is specifically 'no current litigation, NHS, tax or other government debt.'

Cyberknight:
Apparently I might be wrong. The threshold appears to be referring to taxable income (i.e. less personal allowance and any salary sacrifice amounts, such as pension deductions), not gross income, which would actually mean its approx. 65k.

No it's gross salary.

Elsewhere in the statement they say the intent is to match it to what people earn to be in the higher and additional rate tax thresholds.

Zahra29:
Indeed.

I know it might be a strange concept to you, but there are a great number of people, myself included, for whom interest in British politics does not revolve around Kemi.

You don't say.

Zahra29:
I wasn't in fact attempting to draw any parallel with her

Lol. If you say so.

Zahra29:
Shabana Mahmood is very impressive.

Not very well known before today, but easy to see why she is being touted as one of Starmer's possible replacements.

She's also being praised for her very radical asylum policies and going further in 6 weeks than her predecessor went in 18 months.

Child of Pakistani immigrants....meanwhile Pakistanis are the largest group of asylum seekers....I bet they're loving her right now lol

In comparison with Badenoch (because it's obvious that's the parallel you're trying to draw) yes, she is being very decisive and her policies are very firm and some might say harsh, but you haven't seen her say anything derogatory about immigrants in general or Pakistanis in particular right? Her comments have been, as far as I've seen, decisive but dignified, unlike Badenoch's constant rants.

None of the referring to people on skilled worker visas as being in the country to wash bums, that she doesn't identify as bring of Pakistani heritage; that she doesn't want to be identified with certain Pakistani ethnic groups because they are her "historical enemies"; that maternity pay is excessive; that autism confers several advantages; lying outright that her children can't get Pakistani citizenship because she's a woman etc etc.

So while I can't speak for the Pakistani immigrant community Im reasonably sure most fully understand she is a British minister and her priority is to the country, and so won't begrudge her in any way. But they definitely would if she begins launching random attacks on them every Eke market day. THAT is primarily why people despise Badenough, not because of any policy actions she has taken or supported.

P.S. If anyone has a minute, try searching 'shabbana Mahmood Pakistan' and 'kemi badenoch Nigeria' and see how the results differ. It's actually quite interesting.

Ohraykon:
thank you sir

I'm not a 'Sir' yet, boss.

Still working to get that knighthood.

Hope the interview went well.

jedisco:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W89rWOKzOCo

Thinking abour real estate in 9ja always wondered why the risk/reward sometimes didn't add up.

This was a good watch. Where do folks think there's value to be had in 9ja?

This has made me laugh so much this morning.

That first 1 billion monstrosity of a house in Pinnock has to be the most absurd thing I've seen in a long time.

I do think there's still value to be had, and we have purchased some large tracts (several acres each) in places in the outskirts of the city we went to Uni in and believe based on our knowledge of the place will be in demand decades from now. The idea is that we'll use them for mini estates or similar in 20, 30 years' time years or just sell them, but it's not a core part of our investing thesis. Mostly a fire and forget thing with non-essential funds (and honestly there's probably a big sentimental aspect as well). I think the same thing will apply to many University cities/towns.

I don't think anyone seeking medium-term returns should be investing in real estate in Nigeria from the UK. There are a plethora of ways to invest your money in the UK with much lower risk (although with the currency stablizing that factor seems to be going away so the risk profile might change significantly).

The only exception I previously looked into was short lets in Lagos/Abuka but I concluded they aren't particularly viable given the kinds of prices covered in this video.

Ohraykon:
Hello good people, my student visa interview at the UK embassy is tomorrow, I don't know what to expect but i have some documents of past interviews questions. Please can you guys help me with guidelines because i am really scared! thanks

No personal experience but these seem helpful:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ukvisa/comments/1e704n5/just_had_my_study_visa_interview_today/

https://www.reddit.com/r/ukvisa/comments/1f5tg33/15hour_ukvi_interviewdid_i_mess_up_seeking_advice/

Best of luck!

Everybody knows that in the speeches by Farage, Badenough and their ilk attacking migrants and gradually turning 'Boriswave' into an epithet, the references to benefits are always said in the context of being on the dole - not contributing and only taking from the government. It's never about the other 'benefits' that are still available to working and reasonably earning families (which SW holders are, by default).


But hey, let the Ostriches keep their heads in the sand.

HustlaOfLagos:
They also get other benefits which can take it up to £2,000.

Housing too - speaking for those with mental health conditions though

It comes with restrictions like not being able to travel for long periods, going to the job centre to "check in" etc. In all, its not worth it and I honestly don't expect someone from Nigeria who has a functioning brain and isnt disabled to go anywhere near it

I doubt the bolded, unless it's for much larger families than a single person or a couple like we have been saying. I just checked, and even the housing gets netted against the full UC money, based on my (admittedly very brief) checks just now. ETA: There's a benefit cap as well; far less than that - https://www.swindon.gov.uk/info/20013/benefits_and_swindon_money_matters/681/benefit_cap

But yes the summary is as you've said in the last paragraph. I have never seen anyone who came in as a student or SW who's even remotely thinking about benefits as a goal post ILR.

Me wey I dey hustle so me and my madam can retire at 55 na him I go dey aim for UC? Abeg.

bigtt76:
Really beats me when they keep talking about benefits after I left my high paying job for Naija, spent high to gain specialised knowledge, worked in my chosen career for 5 years on COS then after getting ILR I go no resign begin de claim £300 per week benefit? They must be out of their mind that I will chose to leave on the table millions to be made owning own business with peace of mind ILR brings with it.

💯

Just to say it's not 300 per week ó it's 300 PER MONTH.

If you’re single and under 25 £316.98
If you’re single and 25 or over £400.14
If you live with your partner and you’re both under 25 £497.55 (for you both)
If you live with your partner and either of you are 25 or over £628.10 (for you both)

Yes it surprised me too when I found out.

So Joe Public thinks I'm planning that the very day after ILR I'll tell my wife "Honey we have arrived, it's time to stop working and start living off the British state by sharing our free largesse of 600 pounds every month" 🤣

bigtt76:
And when the French authorities took it literally by slashing the boats before they left for the waters, the same bits were complaining about human rights, makes you wonder what they want. They prefer legal migration to be cut... people that work and pay tax o, do they think people would leave high paying jobs to be claiming benefits. How dem wan take survive? Now their school fees are going to be raised again due to low international students enrolment 🫣

The bolded is the bit that gets me every time. You think I paid 20k plus upfront for my one year masters (apart from application fee, IHS etc) as part of some grand strategy to sit down waiting for 300 ish pounds per month?

As how nau. What will I do with that?

Of course there are other benefits that people are entitled to but the fundamental point is why on earth would someone who paid such substantial sums be thought to be planning to become reliant on benefits?