There are no "Positives" or "Negatives", there are only REALITIES!. The thing with Nigerians is anytime one presents an alternate reality we harshly discountenance it or we zoom into the "it is not my portion" zone. To broaden the conversation of what @sukkot is saying; there are lessons to be learnt on both realities and if only we would consider objectively both sides of the coin we will better guide our life choices!
I remember when Pastor (Dr) Emmanuel Olumide did that explosive series on this Japa thing and people said the same thing you are saying that he was painting it all doom and gloom! Hmmm...dont we have Nigerians in this category that the OP raised being offloaded back to Nigeria? Maybe if they had been more informed, maybe they wouldn't take the illegal route and find themselves in the unfortunate situation they now find themselves. Truth be told not every person who japa (legally) has business doing so.
Like u said there are "Positives" or "Negative" some become successful why other failed. life is a chance, hard work, some common sense and God.
Peter532: Hello all, My dad immediate elder brother who went to south africa in the 90s is back to drag their parents property claiming to be the first son.
This is someone who after he travelled only came back once and never bothered about the affair's of the family.
Their father my grandfather died 2005 he was no where to be found. my grand mother died 2018 still nothing from him.
No contributions whatever even while their parents was still alive.
He cut all sort of communications with them and now he's back to lay claim on the properties.
The family is angry but some of the elders in the extended family are getting on is side claiming he's still the senior he was never disowned but they can't say it out though.
It's obvious he came back with almost nothing and felt laying claims on their parent property is the back up plan
No will was written and some of the old buildings has been reconstructed from the scratch by my father and yet someone is laying claim on it.
I will like to know how this will go because my father is ready to fight this with his last strength and we the children are firmly behind him
lendahand: why do I have headache reading your English?? To think you're in Canada is even more worrisome. ..
Sorry, I haven't lived in Canada for over 28 years now. I knew I could do better in other country. I moved had PR I moved out and I have done better now. Canada was great and Canada is a different place today compared to 28 years ago
What is the justification for moving abroad without the right permit ? If I am narrow minded for moving abroad with "paper" as you call it or thinking that the proper thing to do is to be a legal resident then so be it. There are tons of Nigerians in Canada with valid study permit, work permit, PR and citizens. Those that opted to come here as tourists and stay back for 15 years stuck made the choice. I won't normalize it after all everyone I know in Canada has a valid right of residence.
People move for better life U are not narrow minded for having paper before u moved to Canada- smart move You thinking all Nigerians have the same opportunity like U is not correct from illegal to legal 90% of Nigerians Please don't tell me about Canada because I know better. Canada is my second home from my present third home I felt I could do better in my present home than Canada when I moved out of Canada and Yes I have done better Canada is a better place compared to 28 years ago for black regarding jobs opportunities.
I learnt long ago that building wealth and attaining financial freedom is a very slow process that requires consistency and perseverance. The Nigerian culture can be oppressive hence people feel they need to acquire things they don’t need or can barely afford to prove to others that they’ve arrived. I don’t subscribe to that and I enjoy my peaceful life. My 15 year old Camry is there in Lagos. Once I’m in naija I start it and drive around. Some people have been telling me that as I’m in Canada I ought to have shipped in a better car but I no send them. Even in the Toronto I don’t have a car. Rented an apartment 2 mins walk from a subway station / bus station and it’s serving me well. I no dey compete lol
Dude " building wealth and attaining financial freedom is a very slow process "-- hard Building wealth have opportunity Cost what are you giving up for a better tomorrow agreed with You Edo state I use bus, keke and Bolt I left home over 37 years ago.
lendahand: Hi Sukkot, someone up there just encouraged some of us who wish to relocate to Canada. If I enter Canada through proper channels of work permit and provincial nominee program, do you think I have anything to worry about??
work Your background, education and work experience will help you You might not have the right work as soon as u gone off the boat If you have the right skill it will happen with time
Nigerians that even earn 500k monthly can do many things easily without being in debt. Two of my guys who moved to Canada less than a year ago are already in possession of a BMW and Mercedes indebted to the tune of almost $50,000 each. They sent pictures of the car to people in Nigeria already lol showing how great there life is.
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That is the mistake some people make A co-worker told me I was hiding my high end car at home Mercedes. I told him I don't have any high car that was like 6 years ago, Today I am still driving my old car Other co-worker that seat across from me once told me thanks. because he hear lot of my personal business why I am on the phone He made the same move I was moving in life Dude said he might retire sooner that he was planning
All these doesn't really matter, the koko is if you're a legal migrant that does his/her homework before embarking on the journey.
See ehn, there is many advantages with being legal, you can easily change location if the one you are in doesn't work the way you want.
Wait, you think a person who built himself up from nothing to something, can't achieve anything in such countries if he/she finds themselves their legally?
The number of people that migrant legal from Nigeria is 10% or less. How old is the Canadian work policy? The student visa thing is like illegal iif you are from poor home
What exactly is your point because honestly I don't understand what you wrote there.
My point is we all arrived in Canada in different time. ( I moved out) We all have different background. Our time of arrival and our background make a big difference.
Let me school some people 90% left Nigeria without paper. Lot of things have change in Canada from having paper to attend medical school, pharmacy School or nursing school but today you don't need paper U leave Nigeria without paper Likely might take 0 year to 2 year to get paper. My younger brother in TO had to remind me that some people have to send money home to their family to feed and pay rent U start community college two year you graduate. U take one year off before returning back to university other two years Graduate no work experiencing you start looking for company to give you opportunity. There have been lot of changes in Canada for the past 20 years U just gone off the boat you think you know it all Like I like to LOL people in Canada telling me house is cheap in the US Their house is Million Dollar I LOL why if 95% of the people that tell me their house is Million dollar come to US they go jump from the window if you see the property tax of million dollar house Housing thing in Ontario and BC is a scam Let me add this the person that attend school in Canada might have student loan. U that come from Nigeria don't have student loan Family background you might not have to support your family in Nigeria.
I moved to Canada as a PR on May 12th 2022. Started working a job in my field on May 24th 2022 . Moved out of friend’s apartment on June - 1 2022 after receiving my first salary . Stayed at an air bnb house hunting till September 30, 2022. Moved to my apartment October 1, 2022. Traveled to Nigeria for Christmas/new year holiday on December 27, 2022. Returned to Toronto on January 18, 2023. Visited South Africa on holiday on June 16,2023. Decided to visit Nigeria from there on june 24th,2023. Returned to Canada on june 30, 2023. Godwilling I’ll be in Nigeria for Christmas 2023. All this it takes 15 years talk is BS. I know lots of people who moved to Canada via express entry that travel in and out . If you move abroad through the proper channel you’ll not be stuck anywhere.
I know that country and City TO very well. Your problem is you are very narrow minded and ignorant. All you are doing is looking at things just from your narrow view. U came to Canada with paper u had education U have work experience
It is what it is, the project owner should do as he/she likes.
Please "It is what it is," you said it was cheap High price and contractors here killing people with high price make the building to become high quality ? Your believe is people have to be legally rob by contractors with high price make a building to be of good quality A Project owner should do a due diligent so he/she don't legally get robbed by contractors
This looks too cheap for workmanship. I hope you get a quality job in return.
Why is this cheap? Digging - 100,000 Foundational concrete (blinding) - 80,000 Setting of block (foundation to German level) - 100,000 Filling and pressuring (compacting) - 80,000 German floor concrete - 120,000
Please give me the number of services to deep and cast foundation concrete services 10 @3k5-------35k Two bricklayer @4k5------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------9k setting 12000 blocks @ 60 come to--------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 72K Filing --not sure Casting German floor let us say 13 services @4k --------------------------------------------------------------52k 4 bricklayers @5K-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------20k
Dirkcoyt: To be honest entering a storey building dey fear me . My grandpa own a 20 rooms storey build with a decking typical ring road ibadan style and it’s still standing for 50 years counting now ! My grandpa was just a company mechanic with leventis then with just the usual standard 6 education . To be honest I don’t think he gave his building to any structural engineer or what not and that house still remains solid till now likewise all other build around that area . They were mostly handled by the baba latis. I have never had fear standing on what seems like the 3rd layer where the decking is where I can peep into palms mall and chill to have a view of cocoa house and liberty stadium but I must say I do be shit scared of stepping into the so called engineers that build modern storey buildings nowadays .
Now judging from these factors . I don’t want to believe the Baba latis know more than the trained certified engineers I just want to believe the difference between then and now are as follows;
1. Good quality of materials (when I hit the walls of my grandpa house and feel the sound I can tell the difference between the new ones and old ones , when I see the iron bars it’s more thicker and stronger than new ones) 2. These people never even did soil test etc yet it’s solid so what could we say ? Too much of education ruining it ? Or what ? 3. Experience is lacking in nowadays ? 4. Before you become a Baba lati then I think you will have served your boss so longtime before you start handling projects of your own but nowadays we rush to handle gigantic projects with less experience
I really don’t know why buildings are falling but we must look at what we did then that’s different now .
To think if you start from the very beginning of ring road ibadan to challenge, Oke ado , all you see are storey buildings all these old people built storey building like it’s nothing and it was all built by Baba latis . In modern times we struggle to even build bungalows and we claim we’ve arrived . And only for the few amongst us that can afford to build a storey building we still couldn’t build it properly only for it to fall. Naija which way now I’m tired !
U don't know why? "I really don’t know why buildings are falling but we must look at what we did then that’s different now ." People are taking short cut in all areas Materials
One person who understood the whole narration. There is nothing in the report that suggests that he committed crime with the cards in his possession. Unless they kept that part away from public knowledge. To be honest, our investigators lack thoroughness.
This looks like another hasty, premature conclusion to a fraud investigation. I wonder why EFCC are always in a hurry to go to court only to be shamefully flattened by criminals because of insufficient, watery evidence.
Make our investigators dey settle down do better work, and avoid the media noise.
Use you head "One person who understood the whole narration. There is nothing in the report that suggests that he committed crime with the cards in his possession." The Credit cards belong to him? You have illegal drug Right but you are not selling it Look Possession Stealing information
You are the ignore person that don't know the law be trying to be a lawyer "Make our investigators dey settle down do better work, and avoid the media noise."
Not related to this post but I think these things aren't that straightforward Sir. 1. it's canadian dollars not USD 2. You didn't factor the taxes and bills 3. 8.36 per hr in CA?
But in all, CA is heaven compared to NG IF and only if you are there legally.
This overinflated sense of entitlement is the problem. Her underlying asylum petition has been denied. In other words, she has not earned the right to live in Canada. She applied for residency under a one-time emergency program… she didn’t qualify. It doesn’t matter that she didn’t qualify because she was having a baby. The rules are the rules. This isn’t Nigeria where who you know and how hard you cry is what determines your fate.
You are so right "This overinflated sense of entitlement is the problem. Her underlying asylum petition has been denied" and lot of the Nigerians from Europe retired AS?? don't want to work living off hard working people
ReneJay: Good day nairalanders. I want to seek your advice on behalf of my uncle.
Pardon me for any typographical errors. My uncle has been married to this lady for almost 16 years. They have two kids. According to his narration, the first five years of marriage was wonderful.
But things took a sudden twist later on. The wife has changed in both attitude and manners. The man is a civil servant and earns 70k monthly and his wife is a teacher. She earns 35k monthly.
The twist is, the wife has stopped supporting the man financially. In fact, anything she buys for the family or for the children, she asks for the money, even as little as spice cubes. My uncle had to report the matter to my father, his brother, after several years of enduring her strange attitude. My father called her to table the matter. She admitted the accusations. In her defence, she said it is the responsibility of the man (husband) to provide for the family. what broke my uncle's heart was the day the rent of their house was due, he hadnt pieced together the rent and was going about to seek loans from friends and family. He asked her if she knew who to loan from and she said she didn't know who to loan from. To his dismay, he got wind from a friend that his wife was looking for a piece of land to buy with God knows how and where she got the money from. She even told him she doesn't have a dime to add to whatever he's able to raise. He does everything in the house from A to Z.
He needs advice on what to do. Should he file for divorce and hope things would get Rosy enough to start afresh with someone else? Or should he call for a meeting with her family and our family to try to mediate and make her see reasons why she should be supportive?
Matured advice please.
Tell your uncle to send her back to her family She should go use part of her salary of 35k to rent a place Marriage is a union of two not one " she said it is the responsibility of the man (husband) to provide for the family." I
My brother, its a dead car or nothing. I cant even ship my used car i bought from the dealership to Nigeria because the dead cars in Nigerian market will not allow you sell it. The only car i ship to Nigeria for use when am visiting is another dead car with good cosmetic condition. That way i can sell it at a competitive price before leaving. I have a low mileage 2012 Honda i bought for personal use and for keep but unfortunately my wife said its too small for family use, unfortunately selling it is a big lose because its not a dead car.
That is what I am talking about We know better it is "dead cars"
sonnie10: Still on the issue of imported cars. Let’s put some numbers to it to get a clear picture because we are not talking in abstract As an illustration;
Can One get a clean low mileage accident free Camry 2010 for less than $4k, I doubt so. Even at auctions. Now $4k = #2.4M Plus shipping $1200 = #720k Clearing is about #650k Total #3.77M The question is, who would buy a 2010 Camry for #4M?
ocation: Manassas, VA Mileage: 145,513 milesBody Style: SedanColor: GrayEngine: 4 Cyl 2.5 L Description: Used 2010 Toyota Camry LE with FWD, Keyless Entry, Tinted Windows, Steel Wheels, Independent Suspension, Rear Bench Seat, Front Stabilizer Bar, and Compact Spare Tire $8.495 Used Toyota Camry For Sale - 4 In Stock, Starting At $6,499
2011 Toyota Camry LE
13 Send to My Phone Share Print GREAT VALUE $10,990
History events affecting this vehicle's value
No Accidents Reported
Service History
Personal Vehicle Prior Certified Pre-Owned $12,680 CARFAX Value 127,559 miles Stock #00172
Vehicle Info Price$9,000 Mileage168,838 miles LocationAustin, TX Interior ColorTan Exterior ColorBlue TransmissionAutomatic Body StyleSedan Engine4 Cyl FuelGasoline MPG City/Hwy22/31 VIN4T1BF3EK2BU615630 Stock #C6934B
kopell: Bros this your assumption is wrong. Please stop generalize your experience with others. Nigerians are African most competitive bidders of word bigger used car auction. We compete with them every day. Sir if you don’t mind, how many cars do you ship to Nigeria every month to even say that.
Ok oh "Bros this your assumption is wrong" Go from one Car lot to other Car lot Roll back mileages or stolen cars from Canada
Its ok if you dont understand. Doors comes in different qualities, just make sure you are buying the right quality for the right price.
I bought something similar to this design for about 700k..
People like you are the reason why i would buy a dead car to sell in Nigeria, if i buy you a healthy car with low mileage you will end up telling me " If this not the same car Ade bought for 1M? How come your own is 1.3M?"
99% of people shipping cars to Nigeria are shipping dead cars with high mileage Likely people in Nigeria don't want to pay the high price for good Cars People selling the dead cars want high return on their investment
SAMJOSH1: Please can someone educate me on which option of compound flooring is better, interlocking or normal flooring? And what advantages does one have over the other. Thank you.
interlock for areas with pipe --You need easy access to the pipes for repair, Interlock have high maintenance driveway stamp concrete
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