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Foreign Affairs / Re: Ecowas Miffed At Sa Navy Ship To Ivory Coast by Googler(m): 3:35pm On Feb 14, 2011 |
superboi: Hiya! How war take enter this matter naa, superbrother? I was enjoying the discussion till now. Ok, to answer you: I think a surgical military intervention to remove Gbagbo from power would be a great idea, but I am not in support of this planned military intervention because we cannot predict how such a venture would end; it will be too risky. And that, unfortunately, is what Gbagbo and those like South Africa, who don’t care what be as long as their companies are allowed to do business, are banking on. Sounds ambivalent? Well I admit I am on this matter of military intervention in Ivory Coast. I don’t share your views on age and leadership. Even if I did, it would still not be the UN’s place to butt into a country and dictate to candidates to step down and become elder statesmen. Imagine the UN trying, till cocks grow teeth, to convince Gbagbo and Quatarra to step down for reason that they are 60ish, so that Guillaime Soro and Charles Ble Goude can a go at it since they are younger! And failing to convince the two old warhorses, insisting that that is what must happen. But I note, from that post, that you share this view that Quatarra is Burkinabe. I see. With a mindset like "we will not allow these Burkinabes and their Campaore to run our affairs without a fight", I think that country has a long way to go. Crass racism, sir, is the underlying problem in Ivory Coast. Forget all this talk about UN this, rebels that, France this, recount that. That country has a long way to go. So does Africa as long as we keep this mindset. |
Foreign Affairs / Re: Ecowas Miffed At Sa Navy Ship To Ivory Coast by Googler(m): 6:07pm On Feb 11, 2011 |
superboi:All that should have been thrashed out BEFORE the elections, my friend. What you are saying is that there were imperfections in the system which are now haunting it - I would say which Gbagbo is now taking advantage of. You see, the world is ruled by chaos - we thrive in spite of it. In a war situation, it's much worse. Gbagbo had delayed those elections for 10 years and had brought CIV to a situation where the "powers" just wanted the elections, any elections, to go on, just as they accepted Gbagbo in 2000 just as long as as Guei, who had become the symbol of the problem, was gone. If I agree to go into an election I would abide by the rules and hand over to the WINNER, rebels or no rebels. The issue is not about handing over to rebels - are you saying Mrs Perry should not have handed over to Charles Taylor? Or that Frelimo should have rigged and cancelled results if Renamo had won in Mozambique? When did being a rebel take away anyone's citizenship? I observe it is convenient for Gbagbo supporters to try to present Quatarra as a rebel even though it was Gbagbo that has created the conditions that have led him to become joined at the hips with the rebels whom he was never affiliated with from the beginning. |
Foreign Affairs / Re: Ecowas Miffed At Sa Navy Ship To Ivory Coast by Googler(m): 4:39pm On Feb 11, 2011 |
superboi:Brilliant analysis! I love it. What I don't agree with, what is not borne out by any facts, is the claim that Quatarra = pro-French, Gbagbo = pro-Ivory Coast. All the French needed to do was throw in a little support for Gbagbo and he would sell CIV to them, as Gbagbo and his camp would do anything for power. All the anti-French talk from his camp is mere rhetoric. There could well be economic considerations in Ivory Coast, but the basic issue is that an election was held and there were winners and losers. A constitutional council then rejected the results, then nullified a portion of it, modified it, and then declared its own winner - nothing French or Nigerian about that, just pure wuru-wuru. All that France and the much vilified West are doing is pitch their tent with the winner in the belief that would secure their national interests, fair enough. superboi:Whatever problems Quatarra may have are to his profile as a person and Gbagbo has far more issues. Ivorians voted for Quatarra and that should be respected. Gbagbo never asked for a recount in the beginning - he simply had his council declare himself the winner. Are you saying that at the time his council was doing that the UN should have been asking for a recount? No. It simply stuck with the winner and that is what it continues to do, even now that Mr Gbagbo is stalling for more time by asking for a recount. Mr Ban is playing by the rules. |
Foreign Affairs / Re: Ecowas Miffed At Sa Navy Ship To Ivory Coast by Googler(m): 2:09pm On Feb 11, 2011 |
morpheus24:I agree with the bit about waking up and running an efficient system - our present state is too bad to continue. But I can't seem to get the point in anything else you wrote. The rest of Africa can be irrelevant to them, fair enough, but should they then keep sabotaging the rest of Africa just for a mess of porridge? superboi:How does going to Addis to sabotage the progress already made on Ivory Coast amount to a repudiation of harlotry? Even if as you have been arguing the correct position is that Quatarra should forget about his mandate and let Gbagbo rule forever, the point you are missing is that RSA is not acting in Ivory Coast's interest but its own. This is a pattern that has run through their foreign policy since Mandela stepped down. Read up on their shenanigans on Morocco and other places. They are doing exactly what Regan and Thatcher did with UN sanctions and Mobutu and the others did with African resolutions during apartheid. |
Celebrities / Re: Gov. Fashola Saves Ailing Nollywood Actor, Ifeanyi Dike by Googler(m): 1:50pm On Feb 11, 2011 |
lokya:Actually, it does matter. Sorry, but I haven't the time right now to give a lecture on PRIVATE CHARITY and GOOD GOVERNANCE. Anyway, on a human level, this good, especially if he was using his personal money. You cannot watch AIT for 10 minutes nowadays without someone coming to the screen to beg for a couple of millions or so to go India for some surgery. So beyond the level of human compassion which Mr Fashola has exhibited, we should cry for Nigeria, as our governments have reduced us to beggars who are constantly appealing to the public for money to fly to India. We should say "shame" to the likes of Fashola who are in a position to fix the health sector so that no has to fly to India for a mere kidney problem. If Mr Fashola and his colleagues have done what they should it would require far less than N7m to treat this man at home and whoever is paying for his treatment would spend far less. If what Nigerians want is for their governments to abandon hospitals and selectively sponsor private citizens on foreign medical trips, our legislative houses should pass laws to that effect so that all who need surgery and can't afford to pay will submit applications which will be reviewed by an impartial panel which will recommend people using some defined criteria. That would be fair enough. What is good for a Nollywood star is good for a bus conductor. |
Foreign Affairs / Re: With $70 Billion, Mubarak Is World’s Richest Dictator by Googler(m): 5:34pm On Feb 09, 2011 |
USD 70 billion for Mubarak? Nah! |
Foreign Affairs / Re: Ecowas Miffed At Sa Navy Ship To Ivory Coast by Googler(m): 4:50pm On Feb 09, 2011 |
No surprise there! South Africa has been set against the rest of Africa since the end of apartheid. No, Mandele's era was actually different - it started with Mbeki. From refusing to cooperate with the rest of Africa on the issue of Morocco and Western Sahara to congratulating Yar'Adua when materials meant for our elections were at a printer's office in Johannesburg, their foreign policy has been driven by, how did John Atta Mills put it? "Mind your own business!" It seems the new rulers of the country don't care if the rest of Africa burns as long as there is "peace" and South African companies are allowed to trade and bread and butter is repatriated. The role they are playing now is the same role played by the likes of Mobotu and Banda during the apartheid era. It's quite sad when you consider the history of the country. |
Foreign Affairs / Re: Tunisia's President Resigns by Googler(m): 6:36pm On Jan 17, 2011 |
The economic factor was there, but it was not sufficient to drive the young man to suicide - it took an insensitive law enforced by an inhuman police department. Again the economic factor had been there, but it then took this suicide to ignite the riots - talk about lighting a match in a room full of explosives. But you don't seem to get my point - proper reporting, context and all that. There is no one you will tell anywhere in the world that a young man committed suicide because he could not find a job who will be able to make sense of it since that person is bound to know many people who are without jobs. It is when you then supply the context that the story would be complete. |
Religion / Re: How To Present Your First Fruits by Googler(m): 5:31pm On Jan 17, 2011 |
Theoretically, yes. But in practice I am aware the churches encourage you go give up your January salary. And there are subtle threats and testimony to goad you. One would have expected institutions like the church to preach voluntary donations like they did in the NT, rather than "first fruits". Or do you give your first son to God today like they were asked to do in the OT? And about "salvation", Why should I "give" my "life to Christ"? |
Foreign Affairs / Re: Tunisia's President Resigns by Googler(m): 5:15pm On Jan 17, 2011 |
Akhenaten:I'm surprised you can't seem to appreciate how important context is in reporting a shocking incident such as a young man burning himself alive. And I would have thought the main points were (1) He could not find a job (2); The state harassed him for trying to make an honest living. But, perhaps, you can argue that only point 1 is important since he would have committed suicide without point 2? |
Foreign Affairs / Re: Tunisia's President Resigns by Googler(m): 4:53pm On Jan 17, 2011 |
^^^ The young graduate set himself on fire because the police tried to stop him from selling fruits and vegetables on a cart, saying he needed a license to do so. |
Religion / Re: How To Present Your First Fruits by Googler(m): 4:39pm On Jan 17, 2011 |
@Joagbaje While I am guided only by my conscience as I am neither a Christian nor a traditionalist, and do not believe in or attach any importance to this "first" thing they way you and traders and many around seem to, I recognise the soundness of your write-up above within the context of popular practice. But going purely by the logic of what you wrote, don't you think a man's first salary on every job, and not first salary of every year, should then go to the church? Don't you think that a church demanding every 12th salary from a member is taking things a bit far? |
Religion / Re: Jehovah’s Witness Leader Goes On Trial In Russia by Googler(m): 12:51pm On Dec 29, 2010 |
Not new in Russia. They keep running rings around the Witnesses at the instigation of Orthodox Church. |
Foreign Affairs / Re: The Ivory Coast Crisis - Another Perspective by Googler(m): 12:45pm On Dec 29, 2010 |
Faeb: Horus:I share your concerns. Nigeria has to consider this carefully. There is a Nigeria fatigue in the sub-region and so Nigerian soldiers will meet with particular hostility. Maybe other African countries should send in troops. I mean, if Ecowas cant' do it without Nigerians, the AU should handle it. We can't bank on the South Africans but The Ethiopian military can overrun Ivory Coast in a matter of hours. |
Foreign Affairs / Re: Un Recognizes Ouattara As Ivory Coast's President by Googler(m): 12:40pm On Dec 29, 2010 |
Kobojunkie:Right. |
Foreign Affairs / Re: Your Own Solution To The Middle East Crisis, Cc: Davidylan, Everyone by Googler(m): 10:23am On Sep 01, 2010 |
And they are about to start another round of talks. I hope they prove the naysayers wrong this time and find peace. |
Religion / Re: Obama Thanks Satan, Could This Be True? by Googler(m): 7:27pm On Aug 03, 2010 |
Someone must be making up these theories as a full time job. |
Religion / Re: The Wide Gate And The Narrow Gate by Googler(m): 7:22pm On Aug 03, 2010 |
Deep Sight: The "narrow" gate must non-believers then? |
Religion / Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: the only true religion? by Googler(m): 7:19pm On Aug 03, 2010 |
^^^ E take it easy, now! The problems you highlight are not restricted to the members of any single religion. You can pick up any other, take it apart and find the issues. |
Foreign Affairs / Re: Your Own Solution To The Middle East Crisis, Cc: Davidylan, Everyone by Googler(m): 1:30pm On Jun 09, 2010 |
Ikomi:Can you post the link to these suggestions, please? |
Foreign Affairs / Re: Your Own Solution To The Middle East Crisis, Cc: Davidylan, Everyone by Googler(m): 6:51pm On Jun 08, 2010 |
davidylan:What I've seen of you are arguments over who is right or wrong, arguments you are content to repeat over and over again. davidylan:Rabin was dead by Camp David II. Camp David II was a new document, not exactly what Rabin put forward. From what I have read of you though, I doubt you would accept that proposal, the one you say cost Rabin. That is why it will be interesting to read your ideas. Anyway, if you prefer the heated sessions about who's wrong or right, that's your prerogative. Enjoy yourself. |
Foreign Affairs / Re: Zimbabwe Grows For First Time In 11 Years by Googler(m): 6:37pm On Jun 08, 2010 |
^^^ Tsvangirai did not choose the name. It appears people name things for convenience, like what happened when Kenya's Narc broke up. The ones using orange as their symbol were named for an orange and the ones using some other fruit I can't recall were named for that fruit. When MDC broke into two factions the one associated with Tsvangirai came to be known as MDC-T and the one led by Mutambara as MDC-M. |
Foreign Affairs / Re: Your Own Solution To The Middle East Crisis, Cc: Davidylan, Everyone by Googler(m): 12:26pm On Jun 08, 2010 |
Some writeup, MyJoe. davidylan:This appears face saving. No, it's frightening, if it's what I'm thinking. I have read your back posts on this issue and it would be a shame if you have no ideas at all how to get out of the situation. But what would really scare me is if all you have inside your mind is unconditional support for Israel without any ideas on how the situation might be resolved. @OP I personally would go with the proposals put on the table at Camp David II by Bill Clinton as a starting point. I mean what we currently know of the proposals. You know, a Palestinian state at the West Bank and Gaza, with some of East Jerusalem as capital. |
Religion / Re: Inesqor On The Salvation Of The Non-christian by Googler(m): 2:18pm On May 05, 2010 |
InesQor:I ask a simple question which you begin answering by questioning my mental abilities, telling me something is “not rocket science”. Then you say something about the possibility of different heavens, an outrightly dishonest assertion since, as a Christian, you do believe there is only one God and one heaven. I point this out and you get angry, throwing tantrums like a three year old and trying to let on I came across as being in need of your “help”. Some of you. . . |
Religion / Re: Inesqor On The Salvation Of The Non-christian by Googler(m): 1:46pm On May 05, 2010 |
InesQor:Your point here is either unserious or dishonest. There is only one heaven, so Jesus could not have talked of a special one for Christians. In that parable he was talking about the Kingdom of God. Is there a God for Christians and another for non-Christians? |
Religion / Re: Inesqor On The Salvation Of The Non-christian by Googler(m): 5:48pm On May 04, 2010 |
InesQor:What is this "strong reason"? I would say highlighted is based entirely on the writer's BELIEF. |
Religion / Re: My Boyfriend Is An Atheist. I Love Him But My Family And Friends Hate Him. Help by Googler(m): 6:04pm On Apr 12, 2010 |
I'm not religious. Na so wife go hard person to see? Be who u r 's reactions are way off. He has obviously fallen for Labake's schemes, praising her already. Later this evening, she will call on him to see he is is okay, "as I read how much this has affected you. Please don't let it get to you. These things happen." "You don't know what you saved me from. If you not for you, " "No, don't talk like that, naaah. I am sure she meant well." "You are such a nice person, that is why you defending her." "Anyway, I must leave now. Is there anything I can get you?" "No, thanks. You've done enough already." "Ok, I must go then." "Em, Labake, " "Yes, ?" "You are such an angel." "Thank you." "Em, tomorrow, can you, " "What, ?" "No. Don't worry. I will call you later. Good night." "Good night." And Labake dances a little ajasco outside the door before calling an okada, |
Religion / Re: Noetic, Purist, Lets Discuss Freewill & Predestination. by Googler(m): 11:06am On Apr 12, 2010 |
Predestination and free will are perfectly compatible. Augustine wrote on this but the shortcomings in his approach are legion and have created many problems theologians have been trying to resolve ever since. The Catholic Church's compromise doctrine of "prevenient grace" (God giving individuals the grace to will themselves into a state of grace) does not resolve the problem either. You can only appreciate the true meaning of destiny and free will when you consider the life of a human as a whole thread as taught in the doctrine of reincarnation. I recommend m_nwankwo's post above. |
Religion / Re: Claims To Divinity - - - - Everywhere! by Googler(m): 10:49am On Apr 12, 2010 |
Pastor T.B. Joshua invites you to say Emmanuel (With Us Is God) when you appear on his programme. I believe that in another 100 years or less, his followers will be referring to him as God. |
Religion / Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: the only true religion? by Googler(m): 10:40am On Apr 12, 2010 |
^^^ MyJoe, so you ate your seed yams! LOL. The JW seem to back up everything they say with the Bible, though. |
Religion / Re: Religious Section Posters J A M B Questions (Comical) by Googler(m): 1:17pm On Apr 09, 2010 |
'ntresting. |
Religion / Re: The Story Of Jos Killings In The Bible by Googler(m): 5:30pm On Mar 22, 2010 |
noetic16: There are times I can't answer the question whether people believe their own lies or not. |
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