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franklingud:
God said "i'll have mercy on whom I want to have mercy" "your ways are not my ways" "go and sin no more"
Thank God for you sir
Lanicky come and see testimony.

God said..?. arrant rubbish..!! See what religion has turned the minds of africans into.. Docile mumu ignoring facts and reasoning for a testimony.

This cultists is suppose to preach his new found truth in jail for life.

This guy deserves life imprisonment. Not this rubbish about been saved to preach a gospel. The judge in question should be removed from bench also..

A man claimed to be a hardened criminal, attested to the fact that he rose to a higher level within his group. Lost 34 of his initiates to murder. Claims he never "killed " anyone. Despite the fact that he testified to walking around with a deadly weapon. Caught numerous times in the act of robbery. But he never killed anyone, not even his rivals... Absolute rubbish..!!!

Just throw in salvation and the name of the late jesus christ inside, then common sense is no longer common.

PastorAIO:
I heard of Jewesun from Osamaro Ibie's book on Ifism. He goes into it in Oyeku meji. Frankly, I thought the entire book smacked of western influence and interpretation.

http://documents.mx/documents/101601683-osamaro-ifism-vol-1-english-complete-osamaro-ibie.html

Bros, thanks for the info...... I had my suspicion.

I used to know a formidable herbalist sometime back. But he used to be a jehovah witness before he was kicked out, however his wife and kids still went for service. I remember on several occasions he used the map on the back of his bible to describe or narrate stories, While aligning it to traditional medicine.

I'm thinking someone like him will subscribe to Jewesun...

DoubleDeeX:
That's not your statement Mr Man; that's a lie projected into your mind from the pit of hell. Your post clearly shows that you are spiritually dead; more like a walking zombie, no offence bro you need Jesus ASAP!

Double the loquacious isrealite... How far na..all you do is run mouth anyhow..

Kindly, tell us about devil without quoting abrahamic text...

FOLYKAZE:
I created a thread about it sometimes ago. I dont know any story about the character in Ifa.

That gal mentioning Jesus is what made me remember the Babalawo making related statement in the movie

Noted....

FOLYKAZE:
The babalawo in the movie meant that Jesus which the woman called is known as Jewesun in Ifa.

Edit: the babalawo is Lalude

Elaborate small na..Do you know the story/phylosophies behind Jewesun.?

FOLYKAZE:
Links to what?

It is a Yoruba movie. I think the title is Alani Pamolekun.

A lady called on Jesus in a particual scene and the babalawo shut her up saying Jesus he is calling is Jeswsun in Opon Ifa.

What is jeswsun in opon Ifa..?

akinvest:
Op, what do you by no Satan, can you tell me the meaning of Esu in Yoruba ? as a matter of fact Yoruba people worship Esu as one of the god.

Please What is the name of Satan/Lucifer or Devil in your native/traditional language...?

Anas09:
Hey look!!!!!, satan has got ya.

Don't worry... Santa Claus would bring you present.. The big guy has got your back...

Pdizzle:
The initiation stuff is just to show how much the rain making stuff is much of 'medicine' in yoruba land, any activity that can be carried outside the babalawo circle is not oogun. Most people confuse herbalists, with the real native doctors.


For sure bro, you will see it first hand.

Kindly explain the difference between an herbalist and a native doctor.?

OLAADEGBU:
Are you doubting the story of Exodus?

Sir, yes sir!!

JigsawKillah:
Accidental gini?

I visited a friend last week and while we were gently sipping or booze, an Urhobo song came up. We then talked about how Urhobo musicians dine with the Devil for fame and supremacy.

Note: at this point, we talked about what we've witnessed. His father is a renowned Medicine man and I happened to be drawn to Traditional stuffs.

He claimed a popular Urhobo musician named Okpan Arhibo was very powerful because he'd seen him hit his car against an electric pole and disappeared. He WAS a first hand witness to that.

On 3 occasions, I was told, that the same Okpan has a medicine that leaves his speakers as the only ones standing if he and other musicians are invited to play in shows.


You can ask any Urhobo person about the medicinal prowess of Okpan Arhibo.

Bros, what you're doing is infusing abrahamics concept to African traditional concepts. Kindly go back and ask that medicine man his concept of "devil"..

You made mention of the medicinal prowess of Okpan Arhibo. Is it not part of nature how did it become "devilish"..we have now condem knowledge of our ancestors to the realm of darkness because of indoctrinated prejudice. It's like going into a science lab and invoking the devil on the tools... It makes no sense!

What the op is also failing to see, is that he/she is trying to fit African traditional concepts under the umbrella of abrahamics concept. One thing is for sure, African Gods stand on their own, they do not need to condemn others in order to be relevant. Christianity MUST condem. That's why they're easy target for ridicule.

Akpobaro:
all West Africans and Bantus in Africa that have E1B1A are the Real Hebrew Israelites in the Bible. we came from Israel. please click to this Facebook page :- https://m.facebook.com/e1b1ahaplogroupnation?__tn__=C . ask the Genetics Doctor, he will explain everything to you all . Shalom

Bros you still dey sell this bad market...

Any oral history, folklore, songs or teachings from your tribe pertaining to your claim.. ? Without quoting the Bible..

Chei..!!! Yaweh seriously fuvked up...imagine a gentile saying the first woman he created was fuvked by a snake with humanoid prick... ;DLmao...

That's just too funny.. From the book of make shiiit up as you go..

djdoxxx:
Goosebaba.... I dey ooo.. Feeling alright now... Thanks much... How's work?

Work is good. We dey maintain...

djdoxxx:
It Is Bad I Said I Was Ill, And No One Bothered To Seem To Care About My Health...No One Even Wished Me Quick Recovery And Well Wishes...Forgetting I Went Through Alot Stress While I Was Ill To Upload The Pictures Of The Merchandise On Here (Cos I Was Sick)...Some Of You Are Just Waiting For The Total Discipation Of All Information...Its All Good...I May Be Unable To Offload The Rest Of The Information On Here Again For Free...I Have Henceforth Been Triggered To Create An Ebook For This Course Which Wont Be Going For Free...I Will Be Updating This Thread As Time Goes On...

My guy no vex....

No let your blood hot too much...

Now I see why rich people no dey too send person. They went through such ordeal on their way up. See as you wan take annoyance begin charge us fee.. Abeg cool down.

Hope you are feeling much better... Do ease up on the stress/hustle.

It is through the knowledge of Esu that I found wisdom to reason objectively, that led to my freedom from abrahamic bondage.

After, Realizing the function of Esu. That's how I was able to seperate Olodumare from Yahweh. Which led to more questions. As an Urhobo guy, I asked my elders what do we call devil in Urhobo. And they answered "E devuli" ...then I realized Oghene has no business with the bible. See wetin translation do us..

.we have mostly spirits. Good and evil, which is more like a crossroads of man and his actions. As human beings we are capable of both. No need for an all wicked spirit with his own agenda.

Esu...!!! I hail ohhh

OLAADEGBU:
Suggested answer:

Lmao...!!!

Who is fooling who...?

What happened to the Israelites that escaped...? How come they too forgot the name of the pharaoh.

It's like saying the jews that escaped Nazi Germany, forgot the name "Hitler" but remember him as "Fuhrer" of Nazi Germany.

Come on...! This pharaoh is supposedly famous. He went to war with a diety. Apologist now want to tell us the diety is behind it. Abegiii.....! Who is fooling who..!?

macof:
Learn to take correction

Lol...she be real complex mumu....

KingEbukasBlog:
@ Hulop goosyboy ... you are getting me confused . Aint you an atheist ? Are you just refuting my comments or trying to make a point . What's your point exactly ? We can start from there . Let's be clear please

You're the confused one here. Na you challenge my initial post, na you still dey ask me what's my point... My friend go drink water...

Besides What has been a atheist got to do with you been a white man loyalists. You keep making ridiculous claims and excuses just to preserve your salvation.

simplisity:
Be careful, what u insinuate can send u to Hell.

Which one...?

NiceHans:
Africans and backwardness! What has the seclusion achieved for his society

Inferiority complex mumu and their stupidity.... Did you ask the same question when the pope was installed...?

simplisity:
They will demolish it, but they will do every thing to build shrine in Governors lodge. It is very unfortunate that we r being lead by occultic men and women, even if u dont have respect for any one, u shld have respect for God. This is y this country is stil in shackle, nothing is moving at all, bcs d hands of those leading us r defiled with blood of those they killed in one way or d other. The church shld be given preferencial treatment when it comes to this situation, bcs God owns every thing, including u and me.

LMAO...!!!! Glorified mumu...

KingEbukasBlog:
This keeps getting interesting . Thanks for the response again . But I need to know the views of other atheists . cc : plaetton , hahn , davien , dalaman , ifeness , kay17 , (frank317 ) , freecocoa , Krystalzkris, menesheh , Goosebaba , macof .

Nna, Bros....

So anyone who thinks abrahamics gods can go fuvk themselves are atheist...,?

KingEbukasBlog:
Ever heard of human sacrifices to appease gods or ritual killings for certain purposes ? Who are in charge of these practices please ?

My guy stop it..!! You cannot compare human sacrifice to the killings depicted in the bible. To the burning of witches and killings in european dark ages. You're looking desperate..


I'm saying that those twins were killed because of ignorance and that practice was annihilated

Bullshiiit..

Christianity is a religion that subscribes to the teachings and life of Christ . Did his teachings support barbarism as documented in the bible ? Do the teachings of Christ support the killings carried out in the European dark ages ? Like I said , Christianity can be used as tool to do even evil that does not mean the religion peddles it .

Fuvk christ, Yaweh reigns supreme. His deeds and commandments are still at play. Whose heaven did Jesus the corpse ascend to? Who created heaven and hell..?


Atheism is the unbelief in the existence of God/gods . I wonder why you are screaming foul when you dont believe in superstitious practices . Assuming we Africans still believed gods are responsible for lightening and rain , you'd be the first to ridicule these beliefs . What's your point exactly ?

Here you go again. Like beleiving in superstitions is peculiar to africans. By the way, wetin consign me consign atheism. There is nothing to believe when you know the potency of african software/hardware..



Since you are hellbent on "preserving Africa's history" , why don't you wear animal skin wrapped around your privates or your wife leave her bossoms stark naked - this was practiced even in Nigeria . My argument is doing away with Religious practices that were born out of ignorance . Like I said before , the nascence of Christianity in Africa deterred these practices from being passed on the succeeding generation.

Since you keep peddling this rubbish of wearing of animal skins. What proof do you have that the descendant of ogiso dynasty wrapped their genitals with animal skin.!? When it comes to ignorance, a religion practice that symbolizes eating and drinking of human blood is born out of what?



Wearing our native attires and designs to work , school , anywhere would be a huge step towards recovering the lost image of Africans .

How does this correlate with your claim that we walked around naked, before meeting the whiteman.?



You are really missing the point



You are getting me wrong again and stop blaming it on "proclaiming to be a descendant of Abraham " . The British came for our natural resources bringing their culture - style of education , religion , technology ,fashion , lifestyle - and we Africans accepted these as a whole . Stop putting the blame on religion !

Smh," we Africans accepted it as a whole .. " the whiteman is really pleased. So the killings and exile of rulers that opposed the colonial presence was because we accepted every thing they brought.. Like I said, africans like you are the ones that I am scared of, a person who makes statement like yours is a saboteur.

KingEbukasBlog:
A big LOL for you

What has the "african shine" given you ? Hate , killing of twins , seeing knowledge as evil , darkness etc . People have proclivities and have to stop when they see it would lead them to destruction . Apply same here as regards to "African Heritage" .

Christianity started in the middle - east before it spread . What were these westerners practicing before they embraced christianity ? Africans used beasts of burden , local agricultural tools , lived in mud houses etc but when a better means of livelihood came we embraced it .

GooseBaba I dont see you living in a mud house or riding your horse to work or wearing animal skin wrapped round your privates in your home or place of work . Dolce and Gabana or Karl Benz must be pleased for they know you are making use of their product

Don't get me wrong , I'm not saying we should discard our rich culture but some practices developed out of ignorance should be left behind

I talk am....I know you have bia bia under your chin. Why are you still using Sunday school teachings peddled by the whiteman in order to promote his own doctrine. In no where in african history have people committed genocide and ethnic cleansing in the name of any african God. Killing of twins happened in certain tribes not ALL of africa or Nigeria. Evidence speaks for itself. Where is Mary slessor celebrated till this day..? they're carvings/deities of different tribes that celebrated twins before her arrival. So what are you talking..

With all the barbarism documented in the bible. The killings carried out in european dark ages. I don't see you condemning christianity to the pit of hell. For your selfish reasons (salvation) you're eager to distort and tarnish the legacy of your ancestors. By the way, this act pleases the whiteman. For you have to be greatful that they came and took you hostage in your own home.

Furthermore, in your previous post to pleatton. You talked about man knowing himself. How can you know yourself when you don't know your history...? Was it the whiteman that brought us native attires and design. Was it the whiteman that thought us how to tie wrapper and igele. When you talk about mud houses, what type of houses were the whiteman living in at the same time?

. Again, some africans walked around naked when the whiteman arrived does not translate to ALL africans walking around naked. Stop using Sunday school sense here.

And for goodness sake, stop comparing the 17& 1800 africa with present day development. It's childish. Before the advent of slavery/colonial rule. Africans were already trading with merchants from other continent that tells you we would still develop without whiteman. Before the protectorate occured, secular education was gradually taking place, and people did not have to distort their history or condemn themselves in order to gain secular education. Which was the requirements put in place by the missionaries and colonial government.

How can you say we have a rich culture, at the same time you claim to be a descendant of Abraham... when the whiteman came, they stole the "rich culture " that they presently display in their museums. After proclaiming descendant of Abraham, what other cultures has the whiteman come back to steal apart from natural resources.

plappville:
Who told you Abraham is a white man?

Who brought the idea of Abraham to you..?

KingEbukasBlog:
No body is pleasing the white man . Stop making false claims .

In your case.. Know this, every time you proclaim yourself the descendant of Abraham. He is pleased, For he knows that you will destroy an african shrine and defend his church. Pray tell, what do you have that the whiteman is ready to destroy his heritage for yours..?

I dey wait...

Slavery and colonialism never ended. It simply transformed to religion and foreign policies. We're like sitting ducks. See how they entered 3 african countries with their military and the people praised the "lord"..look at the exchange rate of all african francophone countries. How can we claim to be independent, when we had to invite the Queen of England to witness our democratic inauguration.

Any move we take right now is a Catch 22...
I have said it before. I'm not scared of the white man, for I'm aware of his evil tendencies. But I am super scared of the black man who is ready to please the whiteman.

Never thought of it that way.... Good question OP...

NL hebrew isrealites could you guys kindly answer the question. Because the word Pharoah is like saying Oba, Chief, Ovie, Igwe... This is a title that goes with a name.

Blood of Allah...!!!

The husband better apply proper reason and common sense, before them give am ticket to cash in his salvation.

masties2:
@djdoxxx, thumb ups on your achievement. I am very interested in this plantain business and I was supposed to start on Sunday, 2 days ago. However, human factor stopped me. I would really love to learn from you. Your mind is rich and fertile with business ideas. Hope we can chat on WhatsApp. Thanks.

Goosebaba I hope to learn from you too.

My Aunty.... We're learning from each other. It just might be your take on an idea that will transform my own. Vice versa.