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asalimpo:
You mean ponder on the foolishness of your reply.
How does an inaminate phenomena,time, exhibit the qualities of an intelligent being? A highly intelligent being.
Practicing selection, after thought, foresight etc.

Time chose planet earth, built an atmosphere around it that can sustain life. Selected one creature for higher intelligence-man, out of all the millions of creatures. Etc
yeah, time did that.
Y cant time do it again?
If you put lifeless organisms in a lab for 10 years and go away, will you return to see higher lifeforms?

Hehehehe....... You my friend are a shallow thinker. No wonder your mind is caged for rapture. He who believes in rapture has the audacity to question objective thoughts. Smh even your Yahweh knows the power of time. Did he not rest on the seventh day.. Lol... I mean is it not time you're waiting for, for the next coming of your saviour to come back and correct his failures..?

Remember i told you to put your god concept asunder and think freely. Instead you came back trying to reinforce and regurgitate the same old crap. At bolded, do you have any proof that your god did any of those things you mentioned. I said proof ohhh... Not claims.

Besides, how can a god who received an inheritance be a supreme dude...

asalimpo:
The theory of evolution is atheistic.
Some christians/theists believe in evolution. But as after creation. That is living things continue
to evolve and adapt according to environmental demands, after they were created by God.
The atheistic viewpoint is different.
How do you attribute creation to a creator without the creator being a diety/god? Impossible.

Lol...let your imagination run wild bro..you've simply subjected your mind to the construct of others. Free your mind and reason without fear. Fear is the sole reason why you await rapture nothing more.

When you say the "creator" has to be a diety. I put this to you. The creator is TIME... Ponder on that for a minute and try not to subject your mind with your current god concept.

asalimpo:
Without belief in an intelligent creator, evolution and the big bang theory is all any person is left with to explain the origin of the planet and life.

Scientific premise.... Not beliefs.

Do you believe in mathematics before using it..?

If and when new evidence emerge, that premise changes. Therefore, evolution theory does not equate to atheism. Are you implying that theist do not utilize this theory of evolution?

Evolution theory is a premise to answer a question by conceptualizing intricate details. "Intelligent creator" is simply a premise used to lay claim on the mysteries surrounding us as absolute. I can also utilize the concept of intelligent design or creator without calling it a diety.

asalimpo:
how do atheist explain the origin of life and the planet, then?

The fact that you will associate "evolution THEORY" with atheism clearly shows that you've not sat down and reasoned the issues objectively.

The word "THEORY " should tell you that it's not an absolute finding. If new evidence comes out tomorrow everything changes. Evolution theory is a premise to understanding nature and finding answers it's not a belief. If you actually gather your thoughts on evolution and reason objectively, you will realise your folly in associating atheism with evolution.

P's I'm no Atheist.... Meanwhile death to abrahamic gods and their prophets... AMUN!!!!

babajay69:
Yes if he believes so much in youth then he wouldn't have bothered to contest as a senator but groom his son in his place.

Shallow thinking..... He is talking about the country's youth. You're here narrowing down to his son.. Na wa for you ohh.

He took an objective way to promote the obligation of youth, If he puts his son. It's people like you that will still complain and condemn. Clearly, it shows you could care less about the message..

babajay69:
I guess so. But if he's talking so much about youth then he should put his son for Senate not his old self.

Put his son.....! Na family business.? Smh

demolinka:
Bro read his post well na, abi u no get mb? Stating the notion explicitly would have been superfluous.

No be only superfluous...... Na superwetin....

ogahope:
Don't b blinded by partisan politics. Our Senator raised fundamental issues dt need to taken seriously. Come to think of it, when will d 2moro come, When our ancestors keep on coming out of retirement to rule nd head ministries?

Guy you don craze.. @our ancestors...

demolinka:
His assertion is fundamentally flawed. A govt cabinet filled with youths will not guarantee change - history has established that. Although he makes some sort of sense, what he should be advocating now is appointment by merit. It shouldn't matter the age, sex, tribe, or gender of the person, as long as he/she can get the job done. Even developed countries still vote aged peeps, and they keep developing, so what is wrong with Nigeria doing such?

Why do you guys like adding your own version to a story just to make a point. Where did he advocate for overwhelming presence of youth in government/cabinet....

raumdeuter:
The point of the thread is a Senator leaving his duties as a voted senator which is making laws tochange things instead of that he is twittering away

Lol......that's not the point and you know it...

dazzlingd:
what are u saying? what's the pressing issue that we need to address..? is it the age of our leaders or the development, unity and progress of our nation that is at stake.. Nigeria is a third world underdeveloped country with high level of poverty and illiteracy, Insecurity, lack of social amenities and modern facilities and what a senator is fighting for and concerned about is the age of the leaders.
Youths occupying government positions won't solve our problems. Poverty, illiteracy, diseases, backwardness, insecurity still persists

All you've mentioned. Are they peculiar to Nigeria.? There's a problem and an elected official is talking about it. And you're saying he should worry about another problem. In no way is he advocating for overwhelming presence of youth in government. But infusing fresh thought process in the system seems like a good movement that would yield positive results in 10 to 20 yrs.... But the likes of you are only looking at the now. Forgetting that if we get out acts together (youth inclusion in government) kids born today might see less of what you mentioned up there...

CharllyKween:
Senator common sense why didn't u allow a youth run for d Senate in ur constituency.. Common sense indeed All of u are d same... God should save Nigeria from Bad leaders..Amen

I just have to ask.... Where was this god when bad leaders were voted or appointed to office...

raumdeuter:
Did youths vote to get their footprints in the corridor of power? or they voted to get change

Is Jonathan not younger than Buhari yet youths voted Buhari

You're missing the point. To cast your vote is a constitutional right. To agitate for change is a human rights.

dazzlingd:
you just said it, it's a constitutional right to contest..
so why ranting about others right to contest or be appointed to rule

*sign *.... Whose case was he championing..? In order to promote an idea one has to point out the flaw in the system. How can you miss this..?

raumdeuter:
First of all youths played a big role in the last change of government from the last 16yrs to now

ben was voted to communicate in the Senate and make laws to change things

If we played a big role. Then where is our footprints in the corridor of power..?

raumdeuter:
Youths are not the only one being governed. We have senior citizens too and they are equally important

If youths want to make lawmakers accountable, Hold them to their campaign promises, refuse to re-elect non-performing ones or simply recall them

Posting on twitter from now till next yr wont achieve anything aside entertainment

Bros, how far na..? We're talking about youths here. What role have we played to change the tide. Forget baba Bens twitter posting. He is simply communicating.

At least we know that if we as youth champion an idea we can hold baba Ben to his words...

raumdeuter:
And communication fixes the issue? Not laws? not taking action?

All of you areon social media shouting about issues, how come no law has been made to change just 1 thing

At bolded good question....my question to you. What role has the youth played in holding the lawmakers accountable..? it seems we're always waiting for someone else to do it. We do have a role to play in the scheme of things you know.

12345DKO:
I am not ignoring the message. I only want him to lead by example. By giving way to a youth in his constituency, preaching this same sermon to his party and serving pdp governors.

I. Agree, he should be doing this things within his political party. But the overwhelming discussion that we are not having on this thread is how we can empower ourselves without waiting for a messiah in form of a politician or wealthy citizens. I can argue that majority of Nigerian youth do not know the duties of their local government chairpersons..

Abayhormy:
So yu are one of those that believe in the "do what I say and not what I do" saying ? I hate hypocrisy. Being an hypocrite means he will do the same or worse if he was in the position of the person he is criticizing. He should show us how he has done his own part in the correction of ALL THESE ILLS he so much have the gift of identifying. How is he using his senatorial seat to cut the humongous pay the senator are collecting despite all the sufferings of common Nigerians ? I totally lost hope in him the day I saw his pics flying first class, while he said he never flies first class. I repeat again, i'll listen to those messages from someone else, sorry.

Then you're attacking his character while ignoring the message... This is a constitutional right we're talking about. He has the right to CONTEST... So do as i say not as i do does not tally with this discussion.

rottennaija:
You know it going to affect them. All the senators there are above 45 years of age.

Expand your thought process please...!! No law is been passed to stop older people for contesting.. So nothing is affecting nobody.. Empowering the youth to believe in themselves that they are capable of holding public office. Is what he is referring to..

dazzlingd:
The twitter warrior and his uncommon sense, bet me, in a decade time, this man will come contesting for president

Is it not his constitutional right to contest.. Sometimes I wonder if the likes of you actually read what you write.

The question you should be asking is would the youth be viable enough to challenge him come election day.? How can we do that if we do not see ourselves as a force to be reckoned with...

12345DKO:
Sorry to say, but this man is a joke. In fact he will pass as the joke of the century.
He should please mention one member of his brother, GEJ's cabinet who was a youth. If he is so pained, he has every oppourtunity to right the wrong by proposing a bill on the floor of the red chamber and stop all these his twitter rants.
He should first start from his party PDP before attacking another, after all they say CHARITY BEGINS FROM HOME.

Arrant rubbish...!! He talked about YOUTHS... =CITIZENS... Why must everything be about taking political sides.. Then you end with charity begins at home... Bros, how does that correlate with the subject matter..?

We should be debating or sharing ideas on how to educate ourselves on how to create a path that would strengthen/champion youth leadership in government. Instead your likes are busy attacking the messenger while ignoring the message..

Ephemmm:
He is paid to speak check the excess of the Executive arms in the House: what roles did he play to make changes while screening these ministers if I may ask you?

Bruce, who always look like a slowpoke in the House, but always turns out to be a Tiger on the twitter can only brainwashed gullible Nigerians like you.

Kindly elaborate on the brainwashing assertion of your comment..

Abayhormy:
How young is Ben Bruce himself? Are there not younger people in his consstitiency he can feild and support for the senate seat he is occupying ? That guy is soo hypocritical. I would take his messages serious if he was a better person himself. I'll like to hear such messages from someone else, sorry.

Smh..... Kindly name the someone else.?

Did you hear the message...? Does it make sense...!? Is it attainable..? Would it make a difference in government..?

But noooooo.... It directing the topic to issues that has no merit on the subject matter..

Yemzy6:
come PH come see something. Lagos own na small..

Is this something to be proud of? or brag about...? What's wrong with people..

MrPresident1:
Acute and Chronic madness is not approached with kid gloves abi how can someone look at the beauty and mathematical precision of the universe and then conclude that his life is meaningless and random, and of no purpose whatsoever? You cannot see that that is chronic craze abi?

Now tell me again, where does your spirit gravitate toward, atheism, stick and stones, or the Abrahamic faith? Remember that all of them are heritages.

If they're all heritage... Kindly tell me the name of your village, the cultural and traditional practice of your people in today's economic and social happenings..?

No need for big english. Just provide news articles, social mobility of your community, social unrest, political parties etc...

MrPresident1:
The visitors from heaven conquered and civilised the heathens who were on earth. Tell me, Goosebaby, where does your spirit gravitate toward? Oh, I know!!! We have had this argument countless times...Stick and stones!!!

Inferior people!

Big lie.. Why do you have to lie.. I know liars are hebrew wannabe. And you believe in trees. That your holy babble is made out of what..?

The teachings of my ancestors aligns with my lineage, heritage, land, culture, language, attires, attitude, VERIFIABLE history etc.. I don't need to believe, I KNOW...

You on the other hand believe that you're a cursed destitute. Punished by his creator for disobedience.. Tufiakwa.!!! Inferiority complex no go kill you, hiding behind spiritual leanings to promote bullshiiit knowledge.

Meanwhile, Delusion reloaded is The Only way you're sure you belong to any tribe in Israel.

MrPresident1:

Where does your spirit draw you towards? The Abrahamic faiths, or atheism, or stick and stones? If it is the latter two, you are inferior!

Bullshiit must stop being peddled as knowledge!

Then by your claim... The edomite is your equal as far as spirit is concerned.... Why do you see them as inferior too?

MrPresident1:

Goosebaby , Happy New Year!

The great loquacious demented hebrew wannabe .. I hail ohhh... Happy new year to you too..!

But Bros, come ohh..E never reach wey you go drop this self loathing beliefs. The overall purpose of your beliefs is to preserve the legacies of someone else's ancestors while you disregard and condemn yours.

MrPresident1:

The lunatic is the one who observes the design, beauty, order, and complexity of the universe and then concludes right-away that everything is random. Such people who profess and confess these kind of thoughts should be chained with the thickest manacles and confined to the deepest recesses of sanatoriums designed for the management of the most intractable cases of destructive human psychosis.

Bullshiit must stop being peddled as knowledge!

Smh....this is 2016 Bros.... I suggest you take your last sentence seriously.

With all your unnecessary gra gra, you cannot even comprehend the OP.. Abeg go drink water. You're clearly dehydrated.

urheme:
Thank you very much
My grandpa's elightenment was made possible by classical european authors he told me

They wrote what they saw....and i saw some too with my two naked eyes.

I'm using nigeria only as a case study.

Fine..

Could you kindly explain the way forward without amending our cultural or traditional norms. Since you want it to die a natural death.?

urheme:
Those barbaric customs annd traditions you call culture are in themselves bad...they are no where better than religion....i hate them all for inequallity and discrimination against women....it knows no fairness and good conscience......they classify women as lower beings.......some even allow wife beating and marital rape.....they treat women as worthless properties with no price tag......women don't need them revived.

A cultural world is a mans world only and women are slaves.....you see why more women patronise churches than men....is an attempt to break free from cultural chains...i don't blame them.

Let the culture die natural death....i'm one of those that killed it.

Bros, how far are you willing to kill it...? I hope you will not hate yourself so much as to advocate the abolishing of traditional language and adopt English in the name of civilization...

Also, the issues you have with african traditional or culture. Are the issues peculiar to africans.? If not. Are you advocating that the west abolish theirs too. Using your thought process i can lay claims that Liberia is more civilized than American. Due to the fact that a woman has held power as president.


When you are eager to point out some exaggerated shortcomings of african societies as the benchmark for abolishment. It begs the question do you know your history? If you advocate for humanity. I must ask, humanity backed by what?

Go to non african churches in Europe and America and you will see more women patronise them. Is it the African traditions and cultures that they're running from..? In this day and age only inferior men would advocate laws that belittles women.

You cannot advocate a "natural death " for something. While using wrong data. Clearly, by your writeups I can tell that you got your pre colonial information on Africa from classical european authors.